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- scooterbaga, on 11/05/2007, -2/+81Give us an Unrated classification... just like DVDs get. Problem solved.
This is getting beyond retarded. - TrojanGuy, on 11/04/2007, -13/+73If Rockstar is forced to change their rating based on this it will just go to show how stupid the rating organizations are. Any kid who can figure out how to do all of these hacks and mods is old enough to handle the mature content.
- ripstuntz, on 11/03/2007, -2/+45It's a PSP... seriously, how much blood and gore can you see on a 5 inch (?) screen?? It can't be that bad!!!!!
- cryptocom, on 11/04/2007, -2/+33oh give me a f**king break...if you're buying a game named Manhunt, you're obviously not Grandma Smith concerned about your 6yr old's innocent eyes.
- KiSA, on 11/05/2007, -6/+35It's "Hot Coffee 2", and it's going to be blown WAY out of proportion all over again
- inactive, on 11/11/2007, -1/+25Yes, it is true.
If you're smart enough to unlock this ***** by means of a patch or hack, then trust me, you can find actual porn or snuff films out there and unlocking the content in the game becomes a simple adventure in self-amusement. Hell, the 9/11 clips were shown repeatedly.. and that was REAL.
You're naive if you think someone with those skills doesn't already have access to the material. People need to understand one thing: if they really wanna see it, they will. And there's nothing you can to do stop it.
You know.. the whole point of a free and open society... - doshindude, on 11/04/2007, -3/+25It's at the point where I don't care. Let it go.
- trueno22, on 11/10/2007, -2/+19Jeez do they not know that the only way to actually use the hack you have to illegally rip the UMD to disk alter some keys in the .ini files reconstruct the illegally ripped files into a new Illegal .ISO and to play it you have to use custom firmware or a hacked psp to use which isn't exactly legal in Sony's eyes. So what power does the ESRB have over illegally ripped modified games that can only be played on modded devices???
- bonerjams2k3, on 11/03/2007, -3/+17you know how many school shootings are gonna happen now? OMFG!
think of the children!
/sarcasm - Snakedal337, on 11/03/2007, -1/+12I feel like some people in here don't understand what rockstar did to earn the M Rating. Owning, playing and modding manhunt 2 ill explain. Originally, there were cut scenes. Bad bad cut scenes. Cut scenes they felt needed to stay in the game, rather than remove them, they added a type of "Color filter" over them, so it flashes red, black and white randomly in a styalized manor in an attempted to "block" the violence. Really all it was is a color overlay hack. These PSP modders are just removing that color overlay, there's really nothing their "Unlocking" but rather, just making it clearly visible.
Not to mention it requires re-authoring the ISO, having a hacked firmware running on the PSP, and other loops to jump through. - Shrubber, on 11/03/2007, -8/+17That's not true at all. How good you are wth computers has nothing to do with whether or not you should be playing a game like this.
- newJxE, on 11/05/2007, -6/+15Someone's getting fired
- Exhaust, on 11/02/2007, -1/+10This is nothing like the Hot Coffee scandal. You have to jump through quite a few hoops to open this content including loading hacked firmware and all kinds of tweaks to game data. You can't just enter a action replay code or load a mod. People just want to blow this ***** up because their uninformed pro-censorship *****.
- GonadHunter, on 11/02/2007, -0/+9I am thoroughly disappointed with the lack of obese nekkid midgets in the link you provided.
- Chaoticfist, on 11/03/2007, -1/+10How about Parents do some parenting????? And leave great games like man hunt two to the adults who wish to play them. I have been playing games like this since i was 10. And funny enough i have not gone on a killing spree yet.....
- wild, on 11/02/2007, -1/+9Time to break out my T-shirt again:
Free speech is a cup of hot coffee. - staxofmax, on 11/02/2007, -1/+9Based on this logic the internet should be rated AO. I mean, anyone with an index finger can type www.obesenekkidmidgets.com.
Good lord, I hope nobody from the FCC reads this and starts getting ideas.... - zarex, on 11/02/2007, -2/+8*****. Why can't I just buy an uncensored version if I want one?
- KineticShampoo, on 11/03/2007, -4/+10Haha well played Rockstar. There is no such thing as bad press. This was all planned out. ;)
- bpilley, on 11/02/2007, -1/+7Exactly... but remember those PSP commercials with the two guys in the plane and one of them is being an obnoxious moron? Maybe the unlocked violence and gore in Manhunt2 would incite the other guy to smash him repeatedly in the face with the edge of his PSP!!!
/sarcasm off. - crichton101, on 11/04/2007, -0/+6Somehow I don't think Jack would stop after Rockstar was destroyed. He likes being on TV, he would just find another game or entertainment company to go after.
- whatthefu, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5Would Sony and Nintendo even allow it on their systems unrated?
- Exhaust, on 11/03/2007, -2/+7Have you read the steps you need to take to open this content?! It doesn't sound like it... TrojanGuy makes a good point. This is totally different than the Hot Coffee scandal. You can't just enter a action replay code with this one.
- TwwIX, on 11/03/2007, -0/+5Jack Thompson and Hilary Clinton will be all over this.
I am really losing respect for Rockstar.
First, the denial of the hot coffee thing then the content issue with the new Simpsons game and now this. - scooterbaga, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5Hadn't thought of that. They should, but they don't. They should sell AO games online with age verification or something. Consumers want options, not told what's okay.
- hockey, on 11/03/2007, -0/+4Follow up story:
The ESRB has absolved Rockstar of any wrong doing.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071102-esrb ... - NJank, on 11/02/2007, -0/+4bad bad bad analogy. If I hid a snuff film or a 30 sec porn clip on a rated M game, provided no in-game way to get to the content, and then someone figured out how to access it, should the discs be bumped up to AO? yes they should. Why? The full content on the disc meets the AO threshold. If they had AO rated content 'accessible' on the disc, then it should get an AO. If you want to argue the AO rating of the content, that's fine, and I'd support that argument. But this is not someone making a custom nude patch for quake. If there was a nude patch on the disc but disabled, then that would matter. The rating is to be based on the content you sell. Rockstar knows that. someone dropped the ball here trying to cover AO content instead of removing it.
- LogicBomB, on 11/03/2007, -0/+3UNLOCKING CONTENT NOT INTENDED FOR THE CONSUMER IS NOT ROCKSTARS PROBLEM!
***** I hate this. If I make a game and stuff needs to be pruned, what does it matter if I delete it entirely or make it non-accessible in the final version? If people hack it back in, that wouldn't exactly be something your average user will do.
As it stands it seems like if a developer releases a game with map-editing software and I make a map shaped like a giant penis the game will get AO. It's retarded. - accelleron, on 11/02/2007, -1/+4Wow. Just, wow. If people like AmishRefugee are common, we are pretty much ***** as a society. Every time some ***** with a hard-on for enforcing his idea of morality on the rest of the world comes up, there are people like this, the "It's not my business, they won't come after me" people. It doesn't matter whether it's Jack Thompson, the RIAA, the DEA or the anti-abortion/gay marriage crowd. The more that the majority of people bend over and take it (because "it" doesn't concern them) the more of these ***** will exist, and the more of your rights will be forgotten about.
***** Jack Thompson. ***** the RIAA, ***** the DEA, ***** Al Sharpton, and the fundamentalist right pricks who would outlaw birth control/abortion/gay marriage because an invisible man in the sky told them so. Not all the people in the above categories need to die, just the ones who would legally impose their standard of morality/decency upon you.
Sorry if this appears to be a thread jack, I'm trying to make the point that this incident is part of a larger problem within American society, and that the only way to stop this issue and the problem as a whole is to stop allowing this legislation to pass. - aresef, on 11/02/2007, -1/+4The problem is many retailers (including Wal-Mart) don't carry unrated games. Movies, fine. But not games. That stems from the common misconception that runs contrary to every bit of marketing data from the last decade or so. People seem to think that games are kids things, therefore no game should be suitable for no kid. Manhunt is suitable for no kid. Duh. Furthermore, the people in power, who raise such a ***** at times like these, don't understand the nature of hacking. It's putting stuff there that wasn't really supposed to be there, and that's something developers and publishers really should not be responsible for. It's like if you buy a movie and somehow spend hundreds of hours superimposing nude bodies over all the characters, then distribute it, would people raise a fit and say the movie should be rated R now? Hell no.
And if your kid can find the AO content in Manhunt 2, he can probably fix your computer too. Feel lucky. :-) - Irfit, on 11/02/2007, -2/+5I had no idea that manhunt existed before this scandal. The AO or mature thing is doing great (free) publicity for Rockstar.
- feckineejit, on 11/03/2007, -0/+3http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20071102.j ...
or
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic - Eivo, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3Incorrect. An AO rating for a game is a death sentence. Major retailers refuse to carry AO rated games, making them less available and harder to purchase. The rating isn't bad, the retailers are the ones responsible for the need of a M rating. If thing were different, Rockstar would have no problem getting AO ratings.
- Exhaust, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3Go back to Amish land AmishRefugee. Hell no we can't just let that douche Jack Thompson destroy Rockstar. Like others said he wouldn't stop there it would empower him to continue. Plus Rockstar is a great developer.
- Fentekreel, on 11/03/2007, -1/+4you act as if this is somewhat difficult...
- Binarysolo, on 11/02/2007, -1/+4ESRB has ZERO power over this. Its like someone using the textures and game models from Halo to make a porno. If you have to go to such extremes to unlock the content you shouldn't be held responsible. They did way more to block this code then they did for Hot Coffee.
If this becomes a big issue then we are no longer a free society. - jonpotz, on 11/03/2007, -2/+5Directions to do it:
1. Open ISO in UMDGEN
2. Extract PSP_GAMEUSRDIRGLOBALLVLSETUP.INI and PSP_GAMEUSRDIRLEVELSA01_ESGLVLSET.INI
3. Open this files (with notepad) and find
# —————————————————————————- # [GK] execution colour ramp options: flash fadein (sec), flash duration (sec), flash fadeout time (sec) EXECUTION_COLRAMP_TEXTURE FE_execramps EXECUTION_COLRAMP_FLASH_TIMES 0.25, 0.6, 0.3 EXECUTION_COLRAMP_FADE_TIME 5.0
delete this strings.
4. Replace original file in PSP_GAMEUSRDIRGLOBALLVLSETUP.INI
5. Replace original files in all levels in PSP_GAMEUSRDIRLEVELS with GLVLSET.INI
6. Save ISO
7. Play - SimonDonkers, on 11/05/2007, -0/+3I recall a fine somewhere along the lines of $11.000 per game sold for a future violation from Rockstar. Somehow I doubt they want that: http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/features/breakin ...
I wouldn't be surprised if Rockstar wrote some fake blogposts stating you can get adult only content this way to get a new media hype but I doubt they would actually do it on purpose. - typobox43, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3Gamestop? Smaller store? I laugh.
I'm pretty sure Gamestop came out and said that they wouldn't carry an AO Manhunt 2 back when the whole ratings fiasco was going on. - geartype2, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3the problem last time was that the materials in question wasn't disclosed at all. This however, the gore scenes, were both disclosed before and after the censoring. So Rockstar is fine in this case. But hey, we'll see.
- inactive, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3Except it is simple, and they agreed to it. You must make ALL content available for review to get rated.
Not blown out of proportion at all. - Dimensio, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3What is illegal about ripping the ISO?
- boredsam, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3A game w/ a mature rating should not be sold to a minor as is. Parental responsibility?? As for the person who gave it to him being liable, that's exactly right, they're liable not the publisher.
- offspring06, on 11/03/2007, -0/+2I'm getting sick and tired of all this censorship *****. The ESRB needs to change or have games rated the same as movies. If games were rated like movies than Manhunt 2 would have gotten an R rating.
- movieman200x, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2Agreed, even though the story is only a day old it is already inaccurate.
- Exhaust, on 11/03/2007, -2/+4Because of people like the pro-censorship whiners posting in this forum. Whiny little whores. They'll go out and send letters to their corrupt representative that can make a big issue out of this rather than doing any productive that really helps people.
Great free society we live in aye? - aaronm67, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2Until I saw your comment, I read the link as "obscene kid midgets"
- inactive, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2Almost EVERY time some ***** on Digg says what you did, it is not the other people that are uninformed, it it THEY who are uninformed. This is no exception. The mere fact that you think that anyone who has opposite views with you are the uninformed ones is a pretty good indication that YOU are compeltely ignorant on the subject.
Just beciuase you are a virgin does not mean that you are any more technologically savvy than others. - teamparadox, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2R* didnt remove any content at all from Manhunt 2. All they did was apply graphical filters to make it less visible. The hack does nothing more then shut the filters off. Its not exactly R*'s fault that someone figured out how, it was done with the Punisher game a couple years ago as well where the devs moved the camera a bit to the side and hackers found a way to modify the game so the camera was where it was suppose to be.
I doubt they will get in any trouble over this one because its just not the same as hot coffee was. - VelvetoneFusion, on 11/03/2007, -0/+2Damian91.
This is your God.
Everyone gets the point. Chill out. -
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