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- dsanonline, on 12/06/2007, -3/+121Their testing team fails.
- tecman, on 12/06/2007, -2/+97This is absolutely hilarious.
And by hilarious I mean sad. - shredswithpiks, on 12/06/2007, -1/+50I'm willing to bet 95% of players install the game somewhere below c:
it's completely unacceptable for a patch to touch any system files whatsoever. Doesn't matter how many people got hit with this bug, this is huge. - Renuvian, on 12/06/2007, -3/+46First time this has ever been said:
Its a good thing that I have Windows VISTA!!! - HippoKing, on 12/06/2007, -1/+41Oh snap
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7759/2047247584 ... - Daggity, on 12/06/2007, -0/+32Their testing team couldn't get back on their computers to say what's up! D:
- Lionhart, on 12/06/2007, -5/+34I think the most hilarious thing about this story is that Windows XP allows third-party software to delete boot.ini
- AlexLand, on 12/06/2007, -10/+39If Ron Paul had programmed this game clearly that wouldn't have happened. Everyone would have to pay the monthly fee in gold though :(
- evildeadguy, on 12/06/2007, -1/+29One would think that boot.ini being deleted would be something quite catchable.
- inactive, on 12/06/2007, -0/+26How to fix this WITHOUT repairing/reinstalling Windows:
1) Reboot into Recovery Console (you need to use the XP CD to do this) and press 1 if asked to
2) At the command prompt type "bootcfg /rebuild"
3) Press Y when prompted
4) When asked for an identifier type "Windows XP" and press enter
5) When asked for load options type "/fastdetect" and press enter
6) Type "exit", press enter and reboot the PC - warlord, on 12/06/2007, -2/+26I doubt thousands are leaving just because of that, its not like this is the first program to ***** up windows.
- eddeh, on 12/06/2007, -0/+22well to their defence it sure looks cool :) http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28304.html?type ...
just fire the entire test team - lkms, on 12/06/2007, -11/+331. there are two options for this patch - with graphics update and without. This bug does not affect old graphics version
2. if player wants to update to the new graphics engine, he has two options - to download patch or to download full client. This bug only occured with patch option.
3. affected patch was removed shortly after the bug was discovered of course.
Even if the player selected to update to new engine using the patch, he is only affected if the client to be patched is installed somewhere at c: drive. Not 100% of players install the game on their c: drive.
so as you see the number of players affected is not as big as people try to present it.
Although the screw up is still massive, this is true.
IMO one shouldn't name one of the game files like that in the first place, it's safer that way.... - bodger, on 12/06/2007, -4/+25In other news, CCP Games announces that Apple has recently invested in the company.
- awox, on 12/06/2007, -2/+22This is all CCP Zulupark's fault. He's stupid.
- patrflav, on 12/06/2007, -3/+21This is absolutely hilarious.
And by hilarious I mean hilarious. - MindTrigger, on 12/06/2007, -2/+19My dad, who has played EVE for years, just has this happen to him today. He rebooted his PC this morning and it was bricked. His machine didn't come with an OS disk, so he had to restore from his factory restore image. This, of course, wiped out his data. He's recovering his data now, but this incident has set him back quite a bit. He fears not being able to recover all of his stuff.
Being a tech/developer, I lectured him for not having back-ups, but it doesn't really matter at this point. He about ***** his pants we he found out hours into this mess, that EVE had hosed him. That is some seriously scary ***** for a video game to do to someone's machine. The EVE devs may be up ***** creek for this one. I can only assume some people will have lost all kinds of important data, not to mention down time.
There may be options for avoiding this, fixing it now, but he didn't even know EVE was the problem until after the fact. - Muncher, on 12/06/2007, -0/+16Right, because failure to function without critical system files is clearly a design flaw in the OS.
- inactive, on 12/06/2007, -2/+18I'd love for this to happen to all of the 9 million WoW players
- Tazmaster, on 12/06/2007, -0/+15The vast majority of home users wouldn't know how to make a boot disk much less use one. This issue falls squarely at the feet of the game developers and should not be put off on the victims.
- thefandango, on 12/06/2007, -0/+14you sir, are a ***** idiot.
- Tippis, on 12/06/2007, -2/+16Weeell... he didn't *have to* restore from a factory setting. A simple boot disk and a text editor fixes this problem, but unless you know what's going on and how to fix it, it's not entirely obvious what to do.
- Krakn3Dfx, on 12/06/2007, -5/+18"Here's out almighty OS, millions of lines of code, years to design, meant to be the framework of a complete PC experience...so we'll just stick this text file with 30-45 characters in the root of the C: drive that completely disables the system if it's lost or deleted."
It's hard to know where the blame lays with in this case. - Smiff2, on 12/06/2007, -0/+13rotfl. "only affects people who install the game to their C drive"? phew!
are you taking the piss? that's almost everyone. its is absolutely everyone who won't know how to fix this.
congrats to the devs for this. - ytsohptwhere, on 12/06/2007, -9/+21Stray away from WoW, get burned!
- warden1337, on 12/06/2007, -0/+12it does run on linux
http://www.eve-online.com/download/linux.asp - Tippis, on 12/06/2007, -3/+15Well, it didn't *try* to touch any system files... it just accidentally deleted boot.ini instead of .boot.ini ;D
Also, proper directory permissions ftw!
I wonder what they'll come up with for the Premium Mac release, next year ;) - bumcheekcity, on 12/06/2007, -2/+14For the less technical-minded of people, who dont know anything about a bootfile, and just want to play a game, this is pretty ***** awful, and an atrocious mess by the EVE-Online QC and testing team. How on EARTH did something as totally serious as this make it into the final product?
- fkr3, on 12/06/2007, -0/+11lol.
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Restart now | Later - Cyber_Akuma, on 12/07/2007, -0/+11Why the hell is a VIDEOGAME even messing with c:boot.ini in the first place?
- Aharoni, on 12/06/2007, -3/+13Try doing anything on Linux or Unix without actually knowing what you are doing...
- MindTrigger, on 12/06/2007, -0/+10Sorry man, there is no defense for this *****. Mistakes happen, yes, and people pay the consequences. Issuing in game warnings, which assume your community does nothing but play EVE for a living, does not let the company off the hook.
You should also note that many mainstream brand PCs do not come with an XP cd to pop in anymore. It's quite common to simply have a second partition with a restore image, which your average non-techy PC user has no clue how to keep updated. This being the case, they restore back to factory install defaults and wipe their drive.
Scary *****, and they will be lucky if there are no lawsuits. - robbh66, on 12/06/2007, -2/+12It should be considered a design flaw that they don't protect such critical files better than they already are.
- MindTrigger, on 12/06/2007, -1/+10He's one of those douche bags who thinks every computer user should be a tech. Anyone who has spent even a small amount of time supporting PC users know that most people just use the damn thing, and how it works is a mystery they could care less about. Frankly, that's how it should be.
- bumcheekcity, on 12/06/2007, -1/+10Over 80% of the world, idiot.
- chrisgbk, on 12/06/2007, -1/+9Not true; the ingame patch download function from the options (which i used) is also affected. The patch was fully released in that state.
- rstorm186, on 12/06/2007, -0/+8someone reported it before release, but failed to do it correctly :-/
- joe90210, on 12/06/2007, -2/+10that's cause the user is running as an admin, if you run as a non-admin, the game would not have been able to delete the file and you would have been fine
- Tippis, on 12/06/2007, -1/+9It *requires* massive social interaction, or you will miss out on roughly 98% of the game, and be bored to tears with the remaining 2%...
If you can play with friends, or get picked up early on, it's quite fun and quite easy to get into. Tutoring and a mind for planning and building ahead is key, though. - inactive, on 12/06/2007, -3/+11It's a feature?
- Drahkar, on 12/06/2007, -2/+10This has been fixed as of 4am this morning and isn't an issue. They are taking all steps they can to warn people before they restart.
- Tippis, on 12/06/2007, -1/+8Proper permissions have everything to do with it, since that would have kept this from happening to begin with.
Also, thanks for repeating what I said (I guess that makes you an idiot too) – yes, the file was specifically addressed, since the patcher missed a dot before the backslash. - FenrisUlf, on 12/06/2007, -0/+7What about Chinese isk farmers who can't read the warnings? Will CCP do anything to help get the word out to them?
- Walgreenz, on 12/06/2007, -0/+6Or Bill Gates fault. When is the last time he even worked on a Microsoft OS?
- TerawattX, on 12/07/2007, -0/+6Some genius at the company decided Eve needed a few files named boot.ini to run and then the patch had a wildcard or misplaced / causing it to grab any and all boot.ini. Never name your files after extremely important system files and you will be a-ok. Think i will make a game that uses a file named run32.dll and then the patch will just have del *run32.dll, no problems there right?
- Artea, on 12/06/2007, -0/+6Looks like you picked neither.
- Aharoni, on 12/06/2007, -1/+7Sorry to be a grammar nazi... but its QA, not Q&A.
QA = Quality Assurance
Q&A = Questions & Answers.
Thank you for your patience. - ungamedplayer, on 12/07/2007, -0/+5Dug down for not being able to read correctly.
- ByteGuerilla, on 12/06/2007, -1/+6It's not wholly unprecedented. There's a great anecdote from a Bungie developer about a game they were working on once. They got to final build stage, shipped disks out to warehouses for packing and distribution, and then, the night before they were set to have the packaging done, they discovered a bug that, while rare, caused the users hard drive to be wiped clean. So, in the dead of the night, a few calls were made and the Bungie crew came into the offices, fixed the bug, and produced a ***** of replacement disks, before going to the warehouse to rip the packages open and replace them with the new disks.
The bottom line is that ***** happens, and bug testing is statistically certain to miss some bugs. When it's a big one, it's unfortunate. - IndigoMoss, on 12/06/2007, -0/+5How is EVE online and is it easy to get into?
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