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- Bic823, on 10/19/2009, -9/+810Talk about spitting in the community's face.
comment from jackal (http://www.joystiq.com/profile/1601625/) on joystiq:
"Privately owned servers ensure that, when IW's gets yanked offline for maintenance or goes down because they can't handle the player load they've been given, people can still play the game online. This is why some of the most touted exclusives for the Xbox 360 and PS3 were unplayable online for days (or even weeks) after they were launched. IW and Activision both know this, so their decision to remove a feature just to "streamline" online connectivity in a market that had online multiplayer years before any console did (and did just fine) is simply an anti-consumer act that is nigh retarded.
Completely removing mod support from a PC title is, also, an act of unfathomable stupidity. PC games are often bought because they provide the consumer with an opportunity to create their own content in an environment where they don't have the money or technical expertise to do otherwise. Counter Strike started off as a Half-life mod; it is still one the most played games online for any platform despite having been released a decade ago. Team Fortess? It's Quake mod that's had infinity longer legs (and arguable more success) than the very game it was spawned from. The PC port of RE4 looked worse than the PS2 version did when it was released; because of the community, updates were made to the game that not only allow it to easily compete with most current gen titles, but fixed the well documented control issues and even provided others (I'm sure you can now use a Wiimote for the PC version). We could delve into the countless weapons, characters, custom maps, custom levels, and total conversions that the modding community have made. These are all things the console ecosystem often does not provide (sometimes for copyright issues, sometimes to wring money out of wallets in order to sell you things the community could've created in a day) and it's always been a major factor in purchasing a game for one platform over another. Which, I'm sure, is why they killed MW2's modding community before it had a chance to begin; they now have the opportunity to sell us 3 maps at the low price of $10 and there's no way for us to compete with them. With IW pulling the feature from one of the year's most advertised and anticipated games in order to hock ***** to us we would've made on our own, they risk giving other developer a precedent to do the same for future titles. ::claps:: Way to piss on the fans that made you a top developer, Infinity Ward.
To do all of that while charging us $60 for a game that offers substantially less than its $50 predecessor did while forcing us to use Steam so our games can't be resold after they're played and then to completely hack out any feature that would've made the game desirable to a PC gamer in the first g*ddamn place...well...there's just no point in playing or owning the PC version even if it does look and perform better.
To all Infinity Ward and Activision employees (which I'm sure is none) who read this site, I have the following kind words for your consideration. Go ***** yourselves, your games, and I hope to see all of your future endeavors flop horrifically. We made you (Infinity Ward) what you are today and you ***** can't even make a clean stab to our backs as a token of appreciation; no, you've got to twist the blade slightly so we actually feel the pain. Your FPS is one of many available to a platform that spawned and still dominates the genre; no matter how anticipated, no matter how advertised, you're just one fish in a sea of many. I hope Activision runs you and your franchise into the ground just like they have to every one of their pet developers; at this point in time, you don't deserve anything else." - DpNo1, on 10/18/2009, -22/+573Don't forget to sign the petition, 19k and counting...
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi? ... - HopeForTomorrow, on 10/19/2009, -4/+486The server system and user-created mods are why I play PC-games in the first place.
STOP RUINING VIDEO GAMES. - AlexanderSZ, on 10/18/2009, -28/+417Massive fail. I don't even buy console ports.
- Iamien, on 10/19/2009, -7/+345***** THING SUCKS!
- flyinfoofighter, on 10/19/2009, -4/+338A month ago:
Shack: By the way, have you changed the way multiplayer games function on the PC at all?
Robert Bowling: PC will be the same as it always was.
Shack: LAN support as well?
Robert Bowling: LAN support, yes.
http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1200 - confoundedjoe, on 10/19/2009, -8/+322"The team's focusing on having it very equal on every platform"
In other words, they are gimping the superior (PC) platform to bring it down to the level of consoles. It's bad enough this happens to game graphics. - inactive, on 10/19/2009, -13/+288***** consoleization.
- MyNameIsGusto, on 10/19/2009, -11/+257ROB I'M REALLY HAPPY FOR YOU, AND IMMA LET YOU FINISH YOUR ***** PC PORT, BUT WOLFENSTEIN ('09) HAD ONE OF THE MOST ***** MULTIPLAYER MODES OF ALL TIME.. OF ALL TIME!!!
- theaverageidiot, on 10/19/2009, -2/+221This is ridiculous. No LAN in Starcraft and no dedicated servers OR mods for a Call of Duty game? Why do developers feel the need to take out parts of sequels that were a staple in the original? What's next, a Halo game with no multiplayer? (To Bungie: that was /s)
- ShadySpace, on 10/19/2009, -2/+206Jeff Gerstmann over at Giant Bomb has been predicting this for weeks, this is Activision's way of charging for maps on the PC.
- firesights, on 10/19/2009, -4/+194This is devastating.
As a gamer, this was THE most highly anticipated game I can remember since perhaps Half Life 2. I have it pre-ordered and was prepared to go to the midnight release party so I could get my game home sooner and start playing.
Now I don't even know if I want it.
If IW and Activision wants things to be equal, why don't they just make CoD: MW2 incompatible with a keyboard and mouse? That way, everything is exactly the same as it is on the console ports. Seriously, how can this possibly be rationalized? - FalseRemedy, on 10/18/2009, -7/+195sales--;
- MrCizzo, on 10/18/2009, -3/+179This is just ridiculous. What genius thought this would make it fair for new players? Of all things it makes it even worse since everyone will be complaining about lag and hosts leaving because they don't want to mess up their kill:death ratio.
- TheBlackDart, on 10/19/2009, -1/+171"Which, I'm sure, is why they killed MW2's modding community before it had a chance to begin; they now have the opportunity to sell us 3 maps at the low price of $10 and there's no way for us to compete with them."
PC gamers will simply play a different game. No need to waste the money. User made maps are almost always better than the overpriced piles of garbage released by the game makers themselves. - stupidverizon, on 10/19/2009, -1/+164This will be the most torrented pc game EVER!
- Foenetik, on 10/19/2009, -2/+163bring on bad company 2.
http://twitter.com/L_Twin/status/4964309159 - 0biKwiet, on 10/19/2009, -0/+148I'd hate to be IW employees tomorrow morning. I bet most of them knew that this was a moronic decision, and have been waiting for the ***** to hit the fan for some time now. How do people this out of touch get into positions of power? It boggles the mind.
- theonlywizdum, on 10/19/2009, -1/+144Now they can use the low number of PC versions purchased to justify the "death of PC gaming"
- pbhawks45, on 10/19/2009, -4/+136I'm not a PC gamer anymore (got out when my six month old graphics card wouldn't run Crysis), but that's just absolute *****.
Activision has been around since the 80s. They know better. Bobby "I want to make development not fun for my developers" Kotick has maximized profits, but has done it by being an absolute douche bag.
John Riccitiello at EA has done an amazing job of changing the public's perception of EA. This seems like something they totally would have done four years ago. Now, Activision has clearly taken the role of "Most-hated company" by far now.
Jeff Gerstmann has been saying for some months now that the DLC for MW2 was going to cost money for PC users. I thought he was ***** crazy. Now, I think he's probably right...
I prefer Call of Duty over Halo myself, but I ***** hate the way IW treats their fans.
Bungie goes WAY above and beyond the (I'm so sorry), call of duty, to treat the community with respect. IW, on the other hand, ignores them at best, or flat out looks down on them (CO-OP!!) at worst. - NexFrost, on 10/19/2009, -0/+131What the *****
- SumoSniper, on 10/19/2009, -3/+132First Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising, now COD6.
I swear these companies are doing this on purpose in order to try and kill PC gaming. There is honestly no other explanation. I bet it's going to feel like a console port, too. - Pulsedriv3r, on 10/19/2009, -2/+129Thank God I haven't preordered yet.
If anything, this will promote piracy of the game. Nice job IW.
*facepalm* - spiralspirit, on 10/19/2009, -0/+125how to make sure everyone hates your company - a book of strategy by activision
- theonlywizdum, on 10/19/2009, -1/+125I loved the Halo 2 PC port. I'm sitting at my computer and the game tells me to press the start button on my controller. They didn't even bother changing the buttons.
- theonlywizdum, on 10/19/2009, -3/+125I play PC games to get away from the 12 year olds on xbox live that scream "*****" every 30 seconds.
- postal21, on 10/19/2009, -4/+125Cheers to playing on servers wherever the hell IW wants them located. gotta love the console 100-200 ping!
- 1b2a, on 10/19/2009, -3/+123I cancelled my preorder even though I was getting the game for 20$ off. This game is now barely worth the time it takes to download it illegally.
- TheBlackDart, on 10/19/2009, -3/+122Bold move. PC gamers will just play a different game. Modern Warfare is a good game, but it's completely underestimating PC gamers who will turn to a better game that allows them to play the same way that nearly every popular PC FPS has ever been played. No way I'll be buying this game, free HL2 mods have better multiplayer options and support. Maybe the petition will knock some sense into the developers, there has to be some people on the development team who know how bad of an idea this is.
- Doc123, on 10/18/2009, -19/+120Steam Group: Modern Warfare 2 BOYCOTT (MW2)
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/BOYCOTTMW2 - Jeepinator, on 10/19/2009, -2/+88And almost nobody will buy them, assuming people actually buy the game now. I play on the PC because I get an awesome multiplayer experience. I can go to a server regularly and play with the same people and actually have some fun.
- inactive, on 10/19/2009, -2/+88Bring on Battlefield 3.
- inactive, on 10/19/2009, -4/+84It also won't support the 100-120 dollars of business it would have gotten from myself and my wife if they hadn't made such a ridiculous decision. We'll stick to MW1 now.
- agbullet, on 10/19/2009, -1/+79YOU LIE.
- Incomp3tnt, on 10/18/2009, -3/+81Been following this all night, it's had over 10,000 signatures in the past 5 hours alone (total of 35000 at time of writing)! I only played CoD4 for the brilliant multiplayer. I'm not much of a single player gamer, so if this isn't resolved then I won't be buying MW2. "Here's a great idea, let's force everyone to join specific servers based on their rank rather than let them choose how they want to play the game." It's like when L4D versus mode was locked to normal. Why? I don't want to play an easy game. There's really no reason to cripple games like this.
/nerdrage - Ghoztt, on 10/19/2009, -7/+84Just for this insult, I will warez MW2, beat the single player, then uninstall.
Want to screw us gamers over? Two can play at that game. - pigfister, on 10/19/2009, -3/+79boycott this ***** then. anti consumer ***** blocking mods so they can sell us their ***** that has always been free.
this modern licensing scam where everything is not owned & half finished games are released the you have to purchase the rest through micro payments is an utter disgrace. - Salif, on 10/19/2009, -1/+75wow, i guess i wont be buying modern warfare 2
that just made my preorder decision easy, l4d 2 here i come - Spik3balloon, on 10/19/2009, -1/+71Welcome to Bobby's Activision.
- MyNameIsGusto, on 10/19/2009, -20/+88I was with him until he bashed Steam. IMO Steam is one of the best things that has happened to PC gaming. If you want to sell your games, buy retail copies.
- Cige, on 10/19/2009, -2/+68I was going to buy this game. Now I'll just torrent it.
- Denex, on 10/19/2009, -3/+69Infinity Ward seems to have forgotten that they're supposed to be advancing forwards, not backwards. Talk about backwards logic.
- s4g4n, on 10/19/2009, -2/+65So who's pirating it with me?
- lambchoppe, on 10/19/2009, -12/+75When has an online petition ever worked?
- Stokesy, on 10/19/2009, -21/+80RIP PC Gaming
- Brak710101, on 10/19/2009, -9/+67Only way I'd maybe allow this is if Xbox360 and PC versions were cross-platform on Xbox Live.
The fact that mouse and keyboard players would ***** on the controller users would justify it, at least for me. - bds85, on 10/19/2009, -1/+57I did my part: NEWEGG order CANCELED, signed the petition, tweeted @fourzerotwo @activision and @infinityward, told everyone I knew on xFire/mIRC, posted on infinityward.com forums, dugg 20 diff stories about this lol.
They thought they'd make more money preventing piracy and charging for DLC, but I think this is going to end up causing them to lose money and they deserve it. Yet they'll still make a billion on console so they probably don't care. - Josexph, on 10/19/2009, -6/+62"Bowling admits this is a big change but says the reason for their moves is to give the average PC gamer a better experience playing the game online."
Casual PC gamer? Isn't that just a xbox 360 player?
Why bring the console ***** over to PC gaming, which has much more benefits and potential, than any console out there. Way to take a game and downgrade it to a pre-historic multiplayer. - remark1965, on 10/19/2009, -1/+57maybe we should all just download it to ***** them over...i know i am now
- SumoSniper, on 10/19/2009, -3/+58I've had my 8800GT (which I got for around $250) for almost 2 years now, and Crysis is the only game that has ever made it sweat. Console gamers like to exaggerate the upgrade thing. It's not true. This card will last me another year if I choose to let it, although I am going to upgrade just because.
I have a 360 as well and I like it, but that's only for the few and far between exclusives. -
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