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- dsmx, on 10/22/2009, -2/+85 * Matchmaking & Smoother Gameplay - Really? you think getting rid of dedicated servers means smoother gameplay? I also fail to see why you can't have match making and dedicated servers.
* Playlists and Private Matches - You can already do that on dedicated servers and you could always offer the option of setting up p2p matches as a separate option.
* Party System and Friendslist - Once again no reason that can't be done on dedicated servers, steam manages friend list fine and WAW had a friend list as well with dedicated servers.
* Cheat / Hack Free Games - That is b/s no game is hack and cheat free regardless of the system used. - doshindude, on 10/22/2009, -4/+80Umm...yes, it is crazy. STFU and give us what we want, IW.
- Carrot1991, on 10/22/2009, -1/+73http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/cod-waw-maps-net ...
There's a reason why they're omitting mod tools, look at the money they've made from map packs. - Murrabbit, on 10/22/2009, -0/+67Could this title be written any worse?
Oh wait I just read the article and yes, it does get worse. These guys really need some copy editors, or at least they should proofread their own *****. - ELCad, on 10/22/2009, -5/+62FTA:"Cheat / Hack Free Games"
How can they promise that? People were cheating and hacking like crazy when I played CoD4 on the 360, so how do they think they are going stop it on the PC using the same methods? Oh, that's right they said cheating would be prevented by using VAC, which works just fine with dedicated servers. - inactive, on 10/22/2009, -2/+58It's a bad idea if their customers don't like it. End of story.
- theandy1, on 10/22/2009, -0/+43Wow, are they going to force you to use a controller next?
- Sloi, on 10/22/2009, -3/+45No dedicated server support is considered "not crazy"? 130000+ people beg to differ.
* Matchmaking & Smoother Gameplay
We never asked for matchmaking: in any case, it could've been added alongside dedicated servers. Smoother gameplay is *****.
* Playlists and Private Matches
We already have customization options in the server browser. Private matches are going to be a complete joke now.
* Party System and Friendslist
Again, more things we already had in much more efficient manners.
* Cheat / Hack Free Games
Congratulations on moving from a barely adequate solution to a worst one. - Prodigy1990, on 10/22/2009, -2/+40i will not purchase this game until dedicated server capabilities is added. They are killing server communities, that is what PC online play is all about!
- LMN8R, on 10/22/2009, -2/+37That retard is a terrible writer who thinks is stupid ideas are somehow new. No. Infinity Ward provided that "response" days ago, an eternity in internet time. No, it does not address anyone's problems. No, you have no business being a games "writer", nor do you have a worthwhile opinion that deserves its own editorial.
Some much better, straightfoward analysis:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3176593
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?i ...
And more.
If they want to charge for DLC, fine. They should compete with the free stuff created by the community.
If they want to implement matchmaking, fine. Matchmaking should be an *OPTION* in addition to dedicated servers that the community loves.
If they want to cut down on cheating, fine. VAC will help, anything better than the absolutely ATROCIOUS punkbuster that is more of a deterrant to online gamers than even the harshest DRM.
Spare us the ***** about how we'll like it "CAUSE ITS BETTER LOL".
PC gamers continue to game on the PC instead of going to the 360 for a reason - we don't want our experience controlled by you, we don't want to wait minutes to be thrown into a random game, we don't want to lose the ability to form communities around servers. It's just that simple. - AmnesiacJack, on 10/22/2009, -1/+31Bobby Kotick is a cancer and needs to be removed from Activision. They won't be getting any of my money as long as that greedy scumbag is in charge.
<<< Snippet from http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/09/actibli ... >>>
"He points to the newly acquired business acumen of people in his company. "You have studio heads who five years ago didn't know the difference between a balance sheet and a bed sheet who are now arguing allocations in our CFO's office pretty regularly," he stated. Of course, that may be due to the fact that his incentive program "rewards profit and nothing else."
He continued with that message: money, money, money. "We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games."
"We are very good at keeping people focused on the deep depression," he stated. - firesights, on 10/22/2009, -2/+30***** Infinity Ward.
- theonlywizdum, on 10/22/2009, -1/+26Valve tried it with L4D. What happened? 2 months in there were too few servers, because no one wanted to pay for hosting if they didn't have total control over it, so Valve started patching the game to add in a server browser and clan-only server options. Matchmaking does not work on PC, it barely works on the Xbox 360.
- killdashnine, on 10/22/2009, -2/+27This is why Counter-Strike continues to be popular: Dedicated servers, mods, and communities built around well-maintained servers. Game designers are just being lazy and greedy.
- Loonacy, on 10/22/2009, -0/+22How did you know we were going to do that?
The controller requirement is actually better for you.
- More uniform experience
- No more having to clean up your keyboard/mouse
- You can lean back or lie down while playing
- Less confusion about which button does what
- Slower turning which reduces motion sickness
Who needs a mouse/keyboard?
/s - AmnesiacJack, on 10/22/2009, -0/+22At this point I'd rather see them fail and have this bite them in the ass. Even if they did come out and say dedicated servers are back in it's to late because they have shown their true colors and that's greed. The only reason to do this is control / power.
They don't care about communities (my friends list isn't a god damn community, it's a friend list for close friends only) and that's what keeps me coming back to PC gaming and why I can pick up TF2 and within 5 minutes find a server filled with people I can get along with. On a matchmaking system I'd be waiting 5 minutes just for the lobby to fill up with random people who may or may not be similar to me at all (mic spammers, gangster wannabes, karaoke singers etc).
No thanks IW and Activision I'll spend my $60 else where. - Hivetyrant, on 10/22/2009, -1/+22At least 130,000 people disagree so far....
- ArtR, on 10/23/2009, -1/+20Too bad a lot of people are all talk. People will still buy this game for the PC and they will continue to bitch. THIS WON'T HELP. If you are completely against this game, don't buy it. I had 2 copies pre-ordered before this no dedicated servers news. I cancelled both of my copies promptly. ***** you for cutting out a part of your community IW. ***** you.
Oh, and just how many people are reallying playing pirated copies of Cod4 for the PC?
Pirated servers:
Servers - 141
Max players - 3646
Legitimate servers:
Servers - 13245
Max players - 266326
Total amount of servers: 141+13245=13386
Percentage of pirated servers: 141/13386*100=1.05%
Total amount of players: 3646+266326=269972
Percentage of pirated players: 3646/269972*100=1.35%
Just admit you want more money and ***** off.
http://www.private-servers.info/CallOfDuty4.html
http://www.game-monitor.com/GameSearch/ - ccxftw, on 10/22/2009, -2/+19Sign the petition. Over 138k strong!
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi? ... - inactive, on 10/22/2009, -1/+18You sir, need to google it.
- korvan504521, on 10/22/2009, -0/+17"it'll improve the experience!"
- TwwIX, on 10/22/2009, -1/+16Console gamers may easily chug down the piss flavored Kool Aid. PC gamers won't.
- Bulletbillx, on 10/23/2009, -1/+13no mods allowed + no dedicated servers + no custom maps = no sale.
- dha07030, on 10/22/2009, -2/+14This was going to be one of the games I was going to buy this year. Now it looks like I might just pirate it, play single player and delete it. Do developer know a great single player experience is the single best reason to not pirate a game?
- lolerskate, on 10/22/2009, -2/+14Of course not, it only a way for them and Activision to make mo' money, im sure Bobby Kodick...Kotick had something to do with that business move.
Anyway im gonna wait for Battlefield Bad Company 2. - sluggybuggy, on 10/22/2009, -0/+11What's all the more amazing about Activision is that they didn't even want to IW to make Modern Warfare. They said it was too risky to change the setting from WWII, and wanted it to be exactly like call of duty II.
- bigd1235, on 10/22/2009, -0/+111. screw over gamers
2. give crap excuses
3. ????
4. profit! - korvan504521, on 10/22/2009, -0/+10You're not helping.
- brevs, on 10/22/2009, -1/+11Why not have both a dedicated server and your matchmaking and private parties.
Stop shoving down everyone's throats let the users decide what they like not the company.
Or here is an idea... integrate both. Maybe you guys have the servers and host them. - viserov, on 10/22/2009, -1/+10So if a friend of mine is playing on a server, I can't join him?
- BotaXero, on 10/22/2009, -0/+8They expect people's home broadband connections to support sessions with 20+ people? Not going to happen. Or are they doing to lock it to 8 v 8?
- Zuggy, on 10/23/2009, -1/+9What's funny is VAC sucks for anti-cheat too
- brainboy7777, on 10/22/2009, -0/+7How retarded are you if you can't join a list of servers? It's one thing finding and entering ip addresses. It's another selecting a server by pressing one ***** button.
- Bulletbillx, on 10/23/2009, -0/+7Also no mods/custom maps so they can ***** charge for their DLC maps which wont be half as good as what the community could have done.
And no promod = balance will be even more of a joke than vanilla MW1. - Sabretou, on 10/23/2009, -0/+6UT2004 had all that AND one ***** IRC client built right into the game. Beat that, multiplayer-improvers.
- inactive, on 10/23/2009, -0/+6*sigh* http://lmgtfy.com/?q=modern+warfare+2+to+have+valv ...
- bigteebo, on 10/22/2009, -0/+6"Gamer" sites a are a dime for three dozen. Go figure.
- MageSTYK, on 10/23/2009, -0/+6I dont know about you guys but I signed the petition, and when this game comes out on Nov 11th i'm gonna be a PIRATE!
Arrrggggg Laddys! Who's gonna jump on the Pirate ship? - TheBlackDart, on 10/22/2009, -1/+7That's it! Punish everyone for a group of people who will pirate the game anyway!
- DennisOhlson, on 10/22/2009, -2/+8Yes they are I dugg you for speaking the truth. Also as well, counterstrike has had 2 games. counterstrike 1.6 and counterstrike source. Compared to about 50 call of duty games that play the same way all the freaking time. Where counterstrike...is better gameplay and a better experience then call of duty.
Its either change or die in my opinion and i do not see change. - Darksoul, on 10/22/2009, -0/+6Then you tell us if that is so true then why are the doing it?.
- Darksoul, on 10/22/2009, -0/+6Matchmaking & Smoother Gameplay
With dedicated servers there are no reason for "Matchmaking" and "Smoother Gameplay" I call ***** its p2p it can't be as fast as a decdicated server period.
Playlists and Private Matches
Private Matches oh so you mean like how Dedicated Servers have something called passwords.......
Party System and Friendslist
With dedicated servers there are no need for a party system and a friends list ever heard of Xfire and messenger programs. Its the PC we don't have problems with communicating with friends.... hell if they wanted to put a friends list in game they could have BF2142 had that in the game.
Cheat / Hack Free Games
***** there is no such thing as a "Cheat/Hack Free Game".
They just need to up and admit why they did this, they want to be able to sell DLC to PC users period. - Davrioza, on 10/22/2009, -0/+5* Cheat / Hack Free Games <---- a better argument here would be to look at the offerings from valve, most notably their VAC system, that runs pretty damn flawlessly between third party dedicated servers.
- DennisOhlson, on 10/22/2009, -0/+5Not true. I bought counterstrike, counterstrike source, half life, left 4 dead portal, tf2, because they continue to bring change and fun to games to the market, i much rather pay for these games, then call of duty 1 call of duty 2 call of duty 3 call of duty 4 call of duty 5 call of duty 6 call of duty 7 etc.
- matt.rubin, on 10/23/2009, -1/+6THIS IS NOT THE XBOX 360! ***** INFINITY WARD THE PC IS A DIFFERENT GAME. GIVE US OUR FUCIKING DEDICATED SERVERS WITH 32 PEOPLE IN THEM!!!
- dha07030, on 10/22/2009, -0/+5I meant to say "great multi player experience"
- omega76, on 10/22/2009, -1/+6Good job Infinity Ward! You just lost 3 sales in my home alone. There is no way I will ever buy another multiplayer fps that doesn't have dedicated server files. FEAR 2 proved to me just how useless PC match making is to me.
- Sil369, on 10/23/2009, -0/+5thats over 9000!!!
- masterstghm, on 10/23/2009, -0/+5I'll continue playing Call of Duty 4 and 5, if that's okay.
- inactive, on 10/23/2009, -1/+6Sorry I know how to google a simple question...
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