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- Jektal, on 03/21/2009, -7/+95Every time I see something "quick" like this about Eve Online I really want to start playing it. Then I inevitably end up looking into it more, am reminded that it has a monthly fee and sounds like more work than play, and give up disappointed.
- Chris1280, on 03/21/2009, -9/+72I wish I could get into eve seeing this kinda of thing. But its too much of a spreadsheet.
- RevLoki, on 03/21/2009, -4/+60I've played for about 3 years now. I love the game. Yes it can be very burdensome if you're a director or a ceo of a corporation. But for the average player, you don't really have to grind grind grind. The neatest thing about EVE is you can pretty much do whatever the ***** you want to do. I've gone from industrial mining (boooorrrriiinggg) to all out PVPing. Anyone who has played EVE can tell you that PVP in this game is nothing like anything you've ever experienced in any other game. After a really good fight I find myself walking outside to get some fresh air because I need to calm down.
There are the inevitable "hurr spreadsheet" kids that come in here. That's great, let them play WoW and be useless. I'll stick to my game that actually requires me to think. I'm guessing these guys haven't seen the new content.
There's a crap load more to do now in EVE when these guys played. Epic mission arcs, wormholes that lead to new opportunities (we're currently getting rich as hell off of them.) New gear and mechanics.
If you haven't checked it out, or if you haven't checked it out in a long time, I highly recommend giving it a second chance. I was about done with it about a year ago. But CCP has made some serious effort to make EVE better and I love the changes.
The greatest thing about it is, if I need to walk way from the game for a month, so what? Set a long skill training and take a break. It'll still be there when I get back. I don't have to grind to level up. - phramus, on 03/21/2009, -1/+50Easy. Build it in Texas.
- inactive, on 03/21/2009, -0/+48A pic says more then a thousand words, sadly, only a few will ever see this amazing picture.
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3940/29g1qmu.jpg - Drahkir, on 03/21/2009, -10/+57How can a game so visually stunning be so god-awful boring?!
- spiffywilco, on 03/21/2009, -1/+46Not sure how accurate this is http://izlin.free.fr/eve/images/compilation.jpg but it's a neat comparison.
And as far as the ships of eve go, dude, you couldn't find one that was updated to within the past two years?
Here's a better one. http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/SFC/EVE-shi ...
It also includes the names of each, and the length of each in meters. - wiachy, on 03/21/2009, -4/+46love these type pics.
- ZimbuTheMonkey, on 03/21/2009, -5/+32I signed up for the free trial and I realized that I wasn't smart enough to play it.
- Jhiaxuz, on 03/21/2009, -1/+28Ship size means almost zilch in Eve Online. It's entirely skill-based...
...which is why I sit in my Hulk and get drunk. - jordantneff, on 03/21/2009, -0/+26For future reference, that's the left... not the right.
- LittleDas, on 03/21/2009, -0/+22I don't think it's boring. I think the PVP is probably the most exciting PVP in any MMO currently on the market since when you kill a guy, you might be destroying everything that person has within the game universe. But to each his own.
- SidewinderX2, on 03/21/2009, -1/+22Well, different people has different tastes in games, and EVE definitely caters to a very specific crowd... but saying EVE isn't complete just because it has free expansion packs coming out every 6 months is like saying a car is unfinished just because a manufacturer keeps updating components over the years. Upgrades != incompleteness.
- CSFFlame, on 03/21/2009, -2/+23Where are the carriers?
- Zyrisk, on 03/21/2009, -1/+22Here:
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/SFC/EVE-shi ... - kanojo1969, on 03/21/2009, -2/+22I've never really understood why people say that. I use a spreadsheet for keeping track of my manufacturing operations but for combat etc there's no need at all.
I do remember being totally confused when I started, but the documentation is much better now and there's a wiki as well. Once you learn the basics of how the races are different and what that means for building and piloting your ship, you're set.
Besides, it's the only game in town if you want a space-opera MMO. And it's the game I've wanted to play since I played elite on my BBC 25 years ago.
Perhaps the best compliment I can give the game is that I've been playing for 3 years and I've hardly touched another game in that time. Nothing else is even close. - LegendaryFrog, on 03/21/2009, -2/+21I am a fleet commander for the largest cooperation, goonswarm. I can tell you that that the pvp in this game is more intense than you will find anywhere, period. It does, however, REQUIRE that you join a good corporation to find it. This is really not a game that you can just solo and enjoy shooting at NPCs all day. You need to find a group of players that you enjoy spending time with, and find your role in that group. Eve does have a place for all sorts of personalities, whether you like crafting (which eve does better and more significantly than any game out there, considering every significant player item is built by another player), exploring, trading, pirating, politics, commanding, spying, ect. Some of our guys get their kicks doing logistics... just supporting the infrastructure of our huge alliance with its hundreds of space stations all over the galaxy. Others like playing spy games and being the master of intelligence, always keeping an eye on enemy movements and being a step ahead of the curve.
If you try to play by yourself and stay in the secure empire space your entire lifespan in eve, you will likely end up bored out of your mind and see nothing but space rocks. Don’t be one of those people who says “I have never even seen a titan.” Pictures like this are common sites in the outskirts of the EVE world (each one of the ships in this picture is a dreadnaught, the largest ship shown in the size comparison in this submission, each costing billions of isk (the in game currency) to produce).
http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=user27033p ...
I have been playing for just over a year, it takes no time at all to pick up and start having fun, if you know the right way to start (hint: join a corp… just do it) - Hockey13, on 03/21/2009, -2/+20Mirror:
http://www.eve-files.com/media/10/Ship_Chart_4096_ ... - plecostomus, on 03/21/2009, -2/+18Are you guys sure this isn't a page of fancy vibrator designs?
- Crimsoneer, on 03/21/2009, -2/+18Has anybody noticed the Eifel Tower at the bottom right? and the damsel in distress?
- deathsquadx, on 03/21/2009, -0/+15You build it in orbit, with materials you mined from asteroids...duh!
- zazbar, on 03/21/2009, -2/+16where are the titans?
- spiffywilco, on 03/21/2009, -1/+15Not sure why you're getting dug down, you're right, they're missing. This is a really outdated chart.
- inactive, on 03/21/2009, -11/+25This winds up on Digg like once every six months. I don't see why.
- Anzat, on 03/21/2009, -0/+13I played Eve when it first came out, and it was fun. I was the founding CEO of the coolest pirate corporation, the only one that would actually lock ships down, hold them hostage, cargo scan them, and always let them go if they paid up. If they brought in friends to try any funny business, we fought them straight-up in fair fights.
Some people actually thought it was cool to get held up by us. All the other pirates just spent all their time ganking noobs, though, and pirate tech got nerfed. I eventually got bored and quit. I have no idea how the game developed since that time years ago. - magicrat405, on 03/21/2009, -0/+12I'm pretty sure the reference to Eve as "spreadsheets in space" originated from Yahtzee's funny but flawed review of it a while back. As for getting into the game, unless you do a ton of homework before you even pick up the game, you'd better hope you stumble across what it is you want to do before the incredibly limited scope of what you are initially presented with becomes stale. This aspect may be less of an issue with the revised "new player experience," but in the past it was the reason it took me three tries to play beyond the trial period.
One thing you cannot do is try to compare it to other MMOs such as WoW or AoC. It is nothing like those games and it does not try to be. It doesn't belong in the same genre beyond the massively multiplayer part, and even then Eve is significantly different with its single server housing hundreds of thousands of players compared to the 10-20k per server in other MMOs. - atrus123, on 03/21/2009, -3/+15EvE is one of the few MMORPGs that actually looks fun enough to play.
- Dundaman, on 03/22/2009, -0/+11You guys were on bbc a few weeks ago.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7905924.stm
and I dont even play Eve. I would love to try out this game, but can't imagine putting that time in. - Faderprime, on 03/21/2009, -0/+11Its a dreadnought and has a specific purpose. Capital pilots fly them but only when they are needed, the nag is arguably the worst dread.
- kanojo1969, on 03/21/2009, -0/+11I think a big reason for the negative experiences is lack of people to play with. If you create a character, start doing missions, and never leave the starting corporation, then yeah, it will get old very fast.
What you have to do is get out of the starter corp and into a player corp as soon as you possibly can. If you're lucky you will find a corp that runs regular combat operations and does as little grinding for cash as possible.
The combat against other players seems very one-sided at first, simply because as a noob you really have no idea of the tactics that will be used against you. Every ship (and there's 300 ships) has different uses and tactics both offensive and defensive. It takes a while to learn but once you get over the hump you can play out some incredibly rich and rewarding scenarios.
There's nothing else like it, it's just a shame that the new players can so easily get into a situation where they are on their own and have no idea how to break out of the mission-running trap. - nick2525, on 03/21/2009, -0/+11This is a pretty cool game. I got sick of the WoW mmo. Then tried the Conan mmo, got sick of that real quick. I decided to try somthing different so I downloaded EVE. Right off the bat I was hooked. I liked the fact that your character could progress without actually being online. Another thing I like was, if you get your ship blown up you actually lose your ship and all it's inventory. The fear of loss is a pretty cool factor. The insurance feature is their answer to this and it just adds some realism.
Unfortuneately there is a HUGE learning curve and once the novelty of the graphics wore off (Hyperspeed looks pretty cool) I found myself being in a constant state of frustration. Trying to figure out what direction I wanted to go in the game. I had a heard time keeping track of where I was and what I was doing. I had tons of items scattered around in different space station banks. After a while I just found that I wasn't having the experience I was looking for. I haven't played in like 6 months and sometimes I feel like maybe i should just start over from scratch.
I think the main idea behind this game is amazing. I really hope the new Star Wars MMO takes a page from this game. Being able to go from controlling your character to flying one of your spaceships is what a lot of people would like to see. I think if you could mix the WoW idea with the EvE idea. Put it in a science fiction setting you could destroy WoW in the marketplace.
The depth of the Star Wars lore is mind boggleingly huge compaired to WoW lore. So you have the foundation for a dynasty right there. I just hope they don't screw it up. - magicrat405, on 03/21/2009, -0/+11Yes, but when you actually find a fight Eve delivers like none other.
- PhoenixAvatar2, on 03/21/2009, -2/+12Personally that gives me very little incentive to risk anything. I played the game for month and a half and after doing the same four missions over and over again me and a couple friends decided to go bouncing around the universe for the hell of it. Some ships caught us, blew up my ship and after I realized that it would take me more than a day to get back up to where I was I never played the game again.
But like you said, some people like that kind of risk factor. - AWBoy666, on 03/21/2009, -0/+9I played Eve like non-stop for around 6 months and saw 1 capital ship and never saw a titan. The best ships only exist in the places where you wouldn't dare to go because you'll get killed immediately.
- Jhiaxuz, on 03/21/2009, -0/+9With Eve, there is no rushing in any way. You have to work just as hard as everyone else and you'll be lucky to get your learning skills all to 5 in one month. After you get your learning skills maxed, it then becomes "easy".
A problem I've run into with players is is they log in for 2 minute, start training a skill, and shut down until it's done. Hours, maybe days later. - MWeather, on 03/21/2009, -0/+9That's because they're for set-piece battles, like ships of the line. It takes the logistical coordination of several people just to fuel and move one. You don't just fart around the universe in a titan.
- garlicdeath, on 03/22/2009, -0/+9I found your last statement made me giggle like a girl.
- rbabiak, on 03/21/2009, -0/+8With the new expansion that just came out, There is allot of new stuff to make it fund for beginers. They revamped the character creation, with new tutorials, and accelerated skill learning.
A tone of new Solo play missions with branching story lines and a couple thousand new star systems have been added.
It is not the eve that was a year ago, I have been playing for along time, and this has changed the way eve is played.. Highly recommend that you maybe take a second look at it, it is lots of fun now. - pinguz, on 03/21/2009, -0/+8She's 2 meters tall and 2 meters wide. I'll let you have her.
- AdamWest2122, on 03/21/2009, -0/+8Flood the earth until it floats into space, light engines, away it goes, then drain water and begin again. Simple really.
- RevLoki, on 03/21/2009, -1/+9If you don't pay your subscription yeah.
- Kordras, on 03/22/2009, -0/+8Because we're geeks and like spaceships?
- marklar69, on 03/21/2009, -0/+8I miss eve a bit last time i played my cloaker got destroyed along with 800 million isk worth of weapons :( Bastards had warp scramblers around a gate deep in venal.
- MWeather, on 03/21/2009, -0/+8"Some ships caught us, blew up my ship and after I realized that it would take me more than a day to get back up to where I was I never played the game again."
Don't go bouncing around until you get jump clones. - CaptObvious, on 03/21/2009, -1/+8...but I want it to fly
- inactive, on 03/22/2009, -0/+7Send this man a medal!
- ligyron, on 03/21/2009, -1/+8If you're interested in that, you should check out Infinity--an independent MMOG.
http://www.infinity-universe.com/Infinity/index.ph ...
It's still under development, but it is a massive game that contains a procedurally generated galaxy with billions of stars with seamless transitions from planets to space, as demonstrated in these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9Ex1ESJfPw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp8WOCuR_pQ - reqage, on 03/21/2009, -0/+7One of the devs mention this picture in a video they did explaining some of the new features in Apocrypha. Seems they are aware of the learning curve and from what I've seen, they have been improving on that aspect of the game all the time.
- Krissam, on 03/21/2009, -0/+7Jumpclones, insurance and scouts, that's how to roll :)
- Hortinstein, on 03/21/2009, -0/+7eve is far more exciting in the long run than your standard run of the mill mmo...your actually working toward something bigger than getting the next big drop...if your bored I would suggest getting involved in a corp or alliance, or with any group of people that suits your play style...
without the community this game would have died a looooong time ago. Even mining can be fun with beer and friends -
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