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- Flashtone, on 01/08/2009, -3/+82newegg ftw.
- evilesttoast, on 01/08/2009, -8/+84Dugg until you said pirating Windows was retarded.
- Mayday408, on 01/08/2009, -4/+47Terrible setup.
Ram cost too much, videocard performance will be choked by the CPU selection.
If you're going to build a gaming PC, and time is not a issue you need to browse slickdeals.net on a daily basis as the best deals expire within hours after they're published.
I got my 4 gigs memory, with better timing then the one on this website for $15 after a $20 MIR.
Got my 650w PSU for $20 after a $35 MIR
CPU/mobo I got a e8500 at frys for their holiday sale for $138 (killer deal)
1TB HD for $72 after a $30 MIR.
GTX 260 card for $175 after $100 MIR
I'm not trying to plug SD website, I'm just saying it's tough times these days, and you're a fool if you're not looking to save the most money possible. - FaithclubDotNet, on 01/08/2009, -1/+28The trick is buying tactically when the game you want to play comes out. That way you get the best computer performance for your price. I typically only pay $500-$600 for a comp, and I have enough money to buy a new one every 2-3 years or so. If you go and shell out $2000 for a comp once, you won't be able to play games in 5 years.
- Harmatia, on 01/08/2009, -1/+25While most of what you said is true-- CPU bottlenecks are a pipe-dream. There are almost no circumstances where any modern dual-core will bottleneck you, unless you like playing at hilariously low resolutions. The exceptions, of course, are poorly optimized games like GTA IV. Too many people buy incredible CPUs when the money would have been better spent on a better videocard.
I - spyd3rweb, on 01/08/2009, -0/+24Just buy the parts individually then switch out whatever is bottlenecking your system for something new 1 part at a time. Continually upgrade in small amounts so your machine is never outdated.
- iignotus, on 01/08/2009, -2/+19You have no idea what brand it is, and it's a $55 PSU not a $20 one.
- groo68, on 01/08/2009, -0/+17Most torrent sites have versions of windows which have been confirmed by over 50 people on the site not to have a virus.
- Uberpog, on 01/08/2009, -0/+16No joke, I gave my friend and old computer that ran TF2 on medium settings and he was way more happy playing on that than he ever was messing around with the orange box on 360.
- mandraque, on 01/08/2009, -8/+23dont put your trust on a $20 PSU
- NCg8r, on 01/08/2009, -2/+17I actually dugg and had to take it back because of that last line. I know I'm wrong and he's right, but meh... feeling honest tonight...
/could have at least said a flavor of Linux *wink wink* - mandoris, on 01/08/2009, -0/+14Considering newegg has 9800GT's for as low as $91 currently, I don't see how the 4830 can be $100 less. ;) Which is not to say it's not a good value card.
- inactive, on 01/08/2009, -0/+14Do you have ANY idea what the amperage requirement for that card is? The 350 watt simply won't have a rail powerful enough to power that video card on load + anything else. The 9800 will pull everything out of that 12 volt rail and you'll choke out the rest of the system.
- sneaker98, on 01/08/2009, -0/+14I've gotta disagree here. It's far from being behind the times.
Still very few games are actually optimized for quad core, far fewer than you think. Right now, for the cash-strapped gamer, there's no shame in grabbing a dual-core and putting it on a motherboard which will support a quad-core in the future.
I've got a dual core Athlon64 x2 6400+, and an nVidia 8800GT. I just finished a session of Oblivion at higher than max settings (.ini fiddling, extra large 3rd party textures, and some nvidia control panel tweaking).
Behind the times my butt! :) - mu0p, on 01/07/2009, -3/+16I just built a media server for about $450 (with 4.5 TB of storage) and a great gaming rig for my brother for about the same. Now is a great time to build, especially if you build around the last generation Core2duos.
- groo68, on 01/08/2009, -0/+12Come to think of it Trojan is a terrible name for a condom, after they were excepted in the city all the men broke out and took up residence in the city.
- LoudMusic, on 01/08/2009, -0/+12Mail in rebates can bite my ass. You have $185 worth of hassle the way I see it.
- inactive, on 01/08/2009, -20/+32One of those builds pairs a 350 watt Power Supply with a 9800 GT and a processor. This is simply retarded.
Also no OS is included in this price. OEM copies of windows are non-transferable so not including the cost of one in this build is retarded, as is pirating Windows. - NCg8r, on 01/08/2009, -1/+12Buy a used video card and you'll save a ton. Someone out there in your town, just like you, recently dropped a half-stack on the hottest new junk and will be willing to sell you yesterday's hottness for some quick cash. Buy everything else brand-new. Been doing this for years when it is time to upgrade...
- Mohdoo, on 01/08/2009, -0/+11Results may vary. I have had very good experiences with Western Digital. Yes, Seagate's warranty is 5 years, 2 years longer than Western Digital. But they both make excellent drives.
From what I can tell, you either have good luck with WD or Seagate. I've heard people say WD drives do nothing but die, and I've heard people say Seagate drives do nothing but die :p - RedViper1999, on 01/08/2009, -1/+12Not just that but a Radeon HD 4830 is actually equal to a 9800 GT on benchmarks and only cost 100 dollars on newegg. Apparently they didn't even look at that.
- Ashkc88, on 01/08/2009, -0/+10I'm building a new rig this year. There are some very promising PC titles coming out. Plus, I'm sick of playing TF2 and L4D on my 360.
- hyperspaztik, on 01/08/2009, -0/+10There is no need to go for Quad Core. Dual core works just fine and never gives me trouble. I'm not going to lie, I have Quad Core, but it doesn't help me any. I bought it because I am tech hungry and wanted top of the line. I would have been just fine with Dual Core had I been strapped for cash though.
- failsafe623, on 01/08/2009, -1/+11Yes, if you enjoy screaming children and sub par graphics.
- aurorous, on 01/08/2009, -0/+9You must have been very rich... and now must be very poor.
There's no desktop alienware makes that I can't build myself for half the price... or less! - inactive, on 01/08/2009, -0/+8What did you do - stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
- onux16, on 01/08/2009, -2/+10Lookie there -- that $100 spared could go toward buying Windows! (let's face it: Windows and gaming go hand in hand)
- DaHuuuuuudge, on 01/08/2009, -0/+8It could be. Good things can be found at low prices. Look at the product, not the price. I'd assume it's a capable PSU since he didn't say anything bad about it.
- GawtMilk, on 01/08/2009, -1/+8Case + 500W Power Supply - $14.99 USD after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
CPU: E2200 2.2GHz 1MB cache - $69.99 USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Motherboard: Foxconn G31AX - $54.99 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Memory - 4GB of 800MHz DDR2 - $31.99 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Hard drive - 250GB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM - $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Video card - 9800GTX 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 - $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
CD/DVD burner - $24.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
$401.98 will get you a rig that CRUSHES what they show you in this article for the cost of the cheaper machine. You can save a significant amount of money over what they recommend by using Newegg's rebate system, which I have had excellent results with. Why spend $90 on a case, considering it doesn't help with performance? There's a common misconception that games need crazy processors -- games need a lot of RAM and a strong video card, whereas processor power really doesn't matter. The difference from a low end Pentium E-series and a high-end quad core is only a single FPS or two, so why spend more money on it if it doesn't matter?
The video card - the 9800GTX - is a stronger performer than the 9800 GT or HD4850.
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_radeon_hd_ ... - sneaker98, on 01/08/2009, -0/+7Yeah, I've gotta disagree there. All harddrives will fail eventually, but I've never seen any evidence of WD failing faster than others.
I'd chalk your situation up to bad luck. Sometimes you get a bad harddrive, and yours happened to be from a particular brand. It happens. - shaughn13, on 01/08/2009, -0/+7I've been primarily buying Western Digital drives for myself for over 10 years and have never had one of them fail. I still have an old 13GB one I got when it first came out in a computer I built for my little sister. Seagate is my secondary but I've heard they've been having problems in there new drive 1TB and higher. Most often when one of my clients have a failure it's with Maxtor or IBM...
- RawOysters, on 01/08/2009, -0/+7The total wattage isn't a great concern. The amperage on the 12 volt rails is what matters. At least 18 amps per rail with multiple rails or even better double that on a single rail.
- sneaker98, on 01/08/2009, -2/+9Technically, $55 PSU since there was a MIR.
But still, if you're paying that low, it's a piece of junk. Best of luck with it. - Shadic, on 01/08/2009, -0/+7I have a 9800, and I had to upgrade my Power Supply to a 500 watt. It recommended at least a 450.
- onux16, on 01/08/2009, -2/+9Only in the computing world is a Trojan in the crack a bad thing... *wink wink*
Plus, in Newegg, the Radeon HD4830 performs just as well as the 9800GT for $100 less, giving you enough spare change to foot the OS bill. (thanks for the heads up, RedViper1999) - bentrinh, on 01/08/2009, -0/+6I built this for $635 after rebates, by carefully selecting combo deals at newegg and taking advantage of rebates at Fry's. :) Keep your eyes on slickdeals!
ASUS P5Q Pro
E8400 (overclocked to 4.0Ghz)
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283
VisionTek HD4850
4GB Corsair XMS2
Western Digital SE16 640GB
600 OCZ StealthXStream
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
Antec P182
And oh yes, it runs crysis. At only 50% load and whisper quiet. - Arramol, on 01/08/2009, -0/+6"Out of date" doesn't necessarily mean much though. The fact that there are faster processors out there doesn't change the fact that the Q6600 can still hold its own on any game on the market. I'm running one at stock speed and it handles Crysis and Fallout 3 just fine.
- elevatedms, on 01/08/2009, -0/+6Tom's Hardware now does this about monthly. They are sponsored by Newegg, so you can easily hop on over there to buy the exact parts. I don't think the Newegg sponsorship makes them biased, since you can pretty much buy anything you'd want there anyway. They also do it at several price points for various uses - gaming, casual, etc. I'm not related, just a loyal reader for 10 years.
This is a decent article, I'm just saying another site churns out monthly updates and have been doing build guides for years. - TheUngod, on 01/08/2009, -1/+7Until a new chipset comes out...i7 anyone?
- jermm, on 01/08/2009, -0/+6I've installed....I mean I've seen someone else...run OEM XP home on 2 systems with about 5 installs between them.
- weepingsphinx, on 01/07/2009, -2/+8thats good value
i never spend more than 600 (aus) on my computer
and i can always play the latest games
sadly this would be waaaay more expencive down here in australia - inactive, on 01/08/2009, -1/+7He is wasting money on the case. Also, anyone who still buys dual cores needs to get with the times. More and more games are going to have quad core support. Get with the times and save yourself an upgrade later :P
- censormagnet, on 01/08/2009, -0/+5do you have to buy a new copy of windows everytime you upgrade your machine? im running linux now and it plays all the games i play (pretty much only wow lately) but before that i am sure i reinstalled my win2k a dozen times over
- GawtMilk, on 01/08/2009, -0/+5I don't believe his $450 for 4.5TB comment, unless he bought used / refurbished hard drives. I built my dad a media center computer, using 1.5TB drives (and one 500GB laptop drive crammed in there too) and the drives were $129.99 each. That's $390 for storage alone, no way you can then build a computer with the left over $60.
My total parts cost was around $650, but I used a really nice Shuttle case to keep it relatively small and portable. I couldn't stand looking at a mid-tower next to a TV... - Spuy767, on 01/08/2009, -1/+6Where did you get your uber cheap terabyte hard drives. Best deals I've seen on TB HD's is low 100's, sometimes $99 if it's a one per customer deal to get you in the door, but then that doesn't leave you any money for other parts?
- Fuzi, on 01/08/2009, -0/+5slickdeals is a great resource, but only if you have the patience to wait for good deals. for some people they may want to just build there pc right away rather then order 1 part wait a few days or weeks or even a months for other parts to go on sale.
- jgtg32a, on 01/08/2009, -0/+5Dellienware?
- sneaker98, on 01/08/2009, -0/+5Assassin's Creed also takes advantage of Quad Core.
But there's a difference between multi-threading, and full use of Quad Core. For a lot of games, the advantage of running multiple cores drops off at the 3rd. For example (*very* simplified), games will run a Graphics thread, and a Calculations thread, and are smart enough to figure out that each of those threads will run more efficiently on separate CPU's. But that ties up two cores and leaves the remaining two nearly idle. Which is a waste of available resources!
The games can say they *support* multiple cores, and they do (ie: they'll run on em!), but that doesn't mean they're good at using them all.
It's actually extremely difficult to utilize all 4 cores appropriately. All the major hardware and software companies (AMD/ATi, nvidia, intel, microsoft, etc) are pouring millions of dollars into research at Berkley and UCLA for the purposes of proper multi-core usage (ie: http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/17/Microsof ... )
It's cool stuff, read up on it! - inverselogic, on 01/08/2009, -2/+7Just bought a Q6600...its already out of date...(i7s)
- RiverBelow, on 01/08/2009, -0/+5I built a rig this summer with a Q6600 and 4870, and the like. Including the monitor, speakers, mouse and keyboard it was about $1800. I built on an incredible motherboard so I can basically keep that while I upgrade parts that slowly go out of date. A Q6600 at 3.2 GHz isn't going out of date any time soon, though it isn't as bleeding edge as it was four months ago.
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