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- Mikkle, on 10/10/2007, -1/+37let's make some broad assumptions and play with numbers for a bit... over 2 million active WoW subscribers in the US, about 6.2% of the US population living in the NY metropolitan area.... that's about 125,000 WoW players in that area. Not sure how many of those are cable subscribers, but frankly I'm surprised it's only a 25 page thread on the WoW forums :)
- JasonCox, on 10/10/2007, -1/+36I can verify that TWC recently implemented packet shapping, however it isnt network wide yet, it's a slow rollout.
- ElGuano, on 10/10/2007, -0/+33I LOVE Time Warner's response!! "However, Dudley refuted this statement, saying that Time Warner has not implemented a change like this to its service, though it holds the right to do so. "We don't have a network management policy called packet shaping," he said. "None of our network management policies are designed to impact a customer's ability to play World of Warcraft.""
From this, I take it that:
1) their network management policy is called something other than packet shaping
2) their network management policies are not DESIGNED to impact WOW, but may in fact be the cause of customers' connection problems to WOW.
Well played, r-tards. - Nocturnal, on 10/10/2007, -2/+31http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18468495-TWC-TW-Officially-Announces-Packet-Shaping-for-All-RR-Users
Check out this thread on DSLReports.
***** Time Warner. This entire country is *****. Greed greed and more greed. Nothing but greed. ***** man *****!!! - speedk0re, on 10/10/2007, -2/+28Error 1 ; expected
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Error 6 ; expected - venom8599, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22They shapp your packets? That's pretty messed up.
- BrownV, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22Honestly if my provider was doing something to screw up any game that I am trying to play. I would drop them in a second.
- venom8599, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19Time Warner invaded Poland too?
- zohar79, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16So what exactly are they restricting?
- DustinR, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19Packetshape my internet and I guarantee I will find someone else or go without if I have to
- cryptmagic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16Thank god, someone picked up on this problem.
- bcorder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14And all the providers lobby congress and make public statements that net neutrality is not needed, nor do they place any control on the traffic flowing through their networks. I'm just waiting for the '[Insert Game Here] Premium Service Fee]" just to ensure quality of service for certain types of traffic.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14FTA: "We don't have a network management policy called packet shaping"
Just because you miserable bastards don't _call_ it "packet shaping" doesn't mean you don't f-ing do it. - Nocturnal, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Yeah but for many, they have no other choice but to stick with TWC unless they wish to go back to dial-up and that just isn't feasible as that will leave you playing ZERO games as well.
- HanSolo69, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14not if your cable internet provider had basically a monopoly on the service in your area. i think you would learn to deal with it in order to get your WoW fix.
- ElGuano, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13But mostly the benefit of throttled bandwidth usage goes directly to the ISP. What's the point in paying extra for a 3MB/s or 6MB/s tube if they're going to make it so you can't even use it for its intended purchase? I didn't pay extra for "internet browsing."
- g00dETH3R, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Simple solution, post a big sign on the on the front page of WoW suggesting a boycott of any ISP who shapes and provide a list of offenders.
- Mosatii, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12They will, eventually.
- Cyrano5, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14The problem isn't just with Timer Warner.
Charter Communications, another cable internet provider is also having the same issues in the Midwest. - ElGuano, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10But gamers and high-bandwidth downloaders tend to be the same crowd...I'd hate to have to choose one over the other.
- Nizza, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Be sure to enable packet header encryption in your torrent client settings - setting it to 'auto' should do the trick.
- wilson316, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I live in New York (Manhattan) and I can attest to the current problems with Time Warner's Roadrunner service. I was one of the first to get roadrunner service in my area and it has been running fine without major issues that is Until this year.
Most of us in Manhattan hit slow speeds between 7pm-12am with horrible ping times. To make matters worst Online gaming is pretty much a no-no for the last 2 months. I do not play WOW but I do play Battlefield 2 and I see the sudden spike in ping or that 2-3 second lag in my game. This happens on servers that ran fine a few months ago.
Some of us ran pingplotter to see where the problem is and yes the problem is on Time Warner's side. They have a few bad hops along the line within the network.
Alot of people are bitching about this issue yet Time Warner/Roadrunner has done nothing to fix these problems. I guess its time to move to another provider.
Links below are people bitching about Time Warner's less than stellar service for the last few months...
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18710281-TWC-NYCMidHusdon-Valley-mysterious-data-freeze-hop
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18374078-TWC-NYC-Slow-Speeds - Jambi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Because, from my limited experience, it's only half as entertaining as the Digg community, and five times as immature.
- slagzoo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Vindication! I've been calling those jerkoffs about every other day since late June telling them something was wrong (although I have more problems with the web than World of Warcraft) and they kept blaming it on my router. I even bought a new router since I got tired of hearing about it. I'd call them more names but I don't really know the limitations for whats appropriate in the Digg forums.
- ScionX, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Dont certain ISP's already do that for VOIP?
- MKautz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Um, so let me get this straight. You should quick WoW because your ISP is terrible...
I can't say I agree with your logic. - playhouse, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8/sigh
- down4twenty, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6i remember i had a Road runner internet connection before i moved. What a pice of ***** it was. It was slow every night because the servers were always overloaded, it was extremely annoying. I would constantly get disconnected from every game i played because the connection would completely stop for like 10 seconds.
- jmnormand, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6how do you boycott a monopoly? WoW would just end up losing customers themselves
- kaelyiesta, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Pure speculation, but this would confirm my suspicion that like other internet providers, they are trying to sneak through subtle measures slowly rather than jump up one day and say 'surprise! we are now regulating your bandwidth based on the content you are getting. Have a nice day!'
- boredmerlin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Well Charter is just crappy anyways. They go down in my area when it gets too hot.
- slickdoody, on 10/10/2007, -14/+18Time Warner - The popeyes chicken of ISP's
- gldfshnpcklejar, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7could they be like a subcompany of TW or using TW's lines etc?
- Tivor, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Hmm, I was thinking of going back to playing WoW, but I guess this is a sign, telling me to stay out. *shrug*
- UNL1M1T3D, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Hahahaha... Oh you were serious.
- antdude, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4So dial-up?
- Cruelapollo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4In southern California, Time Warner took over Comcast's and Adelphia's operations. They formed an evil trifecta.
- UNL1M1T3D, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Flame away.
- Genthree, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Yeah, but I like Popeyes.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Downloaders? Aren't we all downloaders? How would you like to purchase software, or an iTunes song, movie, or TV show and not be able to download it because you are now a 'downloader'?
That's retarded. - xino, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I would prefer a situation where I could either run a program or login to my ISPs site and actually set what types of traffic I want prioritized on my own connection.
- err0r503, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I have been having problems at my house (business class), and my friends houses, as well as clients all over the Tampa Bay, FL area (residential and business class). Random packet loss and very slow connections, mainly during the day. Calls to Bright House resulted in a BS "there is nothing wrong at this time". If this is true and is going to affect even business class customers, this is a sad day...
- gypsi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3these companies have been charging for capacity they can't provide and pocketing the difference for decades now. they received massive funding for infrastructure upgrades and pocketed that too. this "using up bandwidth" and priority talk is just sugarcoating gross mismanagement, and you seem willing to kick in the dollars to increase profits (not upgrades) yet again
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I'll help you: It's like Wal-Mart vs K-mart. Got it?
- Ehrgeiz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3There is no official release, they don't want you to know that they are slowing speeds to news groups and P2P networks. Read that forum the TW techs come right out and say its being done.
- err0r503, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3*****, I pay money for x/X speed, and I should get a reasonable percentage of it. As for the fcc deadline, all they have to do is drop analog cable to free up the bandwidth they need on their network. That is a BS excuse.
- NSMike, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3If anything, I hope this opens the eyes of both consumers and companies to realize that trying to create a tiered internet will be a major bugger. Of course, they probably realize that once the whole thing is in place, there's not much we can do about it... But Blizzard and ISPs duking it out in court could be quite interesting.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Encryption. Done. Next.
- Kappa00, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2This was exactly what I was thinking when i read this.
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