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- logicalnoise, on 05/10/2008, -11/+129The old bioware shines through.
- skinrock, on 05/10/2008, -2/+45Sounds like they are still using SecuROM, just a "modification". I'd be happier if they dropped SecuROM all together and not give them the business.
- tmbrwolf19, on 05/10/2008, -5/+47Being a big fan of Bioware, I am happy at this announcement. While I am no fan of DRM schemes (since for the most part its a battle lost before its even fought) this is at least a sensible approach. Let the thing validate and be done with it. The idea of it continually having to recheck was not only absurd, but runs so many other risks that would all lead to a pissed off fan base. I can respect some initiative to protect your product, but not when it comes at my expense.
- inactive, on 05/10/2008, -9/+38ITS A TRAP!!
- aznhomig, on 05/10/2008, -5/+34No SecuROM is a good SecuROM.
- Radan, on 05/10/2008, -1/+26The problem with all the copy protection that has been going on lately is that as long as the systems keeps getting bypassed (which they always have and always will) the only thing that they accomplish is ruining the game for the ones who actually BUYS the game. Same with movies; if I download the movie, I get the movie which I can watch the second I get it on my computer. If I buy it, I will first have to watch through 15 minutes of advertisements and anti theft propaganda (which is kind of ironic as I'M the one who actually paid for the movie) which can't be skipped.
Even if you disregard the whole "getting it for free" factor, there are still greatly more benefits of downloading the movie/game/whatever than to actually buy it. - Ymeg, on 05/10/2008, -2/+26I hope these changes are made in Spore.
- radixus, on 05/10/2008, -4/+27They only threw crumbs to the gaming community that was so vocal . . . and sadly the gamers threw praise towards BioWare and EA! Which is sad, because they are still using the malware that is called SecuROM, minus the 10-day activation (which is great, but like I said just crumbs.) The community was so quick to forgive they gave up fighting EA further to eliminate the DRM completely.
The community got the evil empire to flinch and now we're back to square one showing them that DRM is wrong no matter how they set it up. - crispynoodle, on 05/10/2008, -2/+25Got to love the way the gaming industry treats it's customer base like thieves....except for said thieves of cause, they dont get any of this crap in thier cracked version 6 hours after release
- alexforcefive, on 05/10/2008, -1/+23It's fine right now, but what about in five or ten years' time when you want to play the game again, but all the customer support lines have closed?
- Azriel7, on 05/10/2008, -0/+17Ok, remember that when you want to reinstall their games a few years down the road and the servers are turned off or they are out of business.
- DanteDefiance, on 05/10/2008, -15/+31Bioware truly rocks. They seem to get a lot of poo for not delivering everything promised with Mass Effect, but gosh darn it....that game superb. Certainly better than any RPG out that year and I dare say of this console generation.
Keep up the terrific work Bioware!
Man I was really Ned Flanders in that post...erino. - Planets, on 05/10/2008, -1/+15Does anyone else think the reason they were going to do it in the first place was because of EA?
- BugMeNot2, on 05/10/2008, -5/+18The Witcher. =)
- Enjia, on 05/10/2008, -8/+21it's still securROM'd, and you still need internet at least once to play it, LAME!!
- Fracture98, on 05/10/2008, -1/+14They're not shining through. It's DRM'd to the teeth with the worse virus out there.
Let me see: be legal, and have all sorts of trouble with poorly written DRM, or grab a cracked copy a few days before release and not have to deal with any of the hassle... let me think... let me think... - Enjia, on 05/10/2008, -3/+14still fail, still requires internet before playing can occour, and you can only install it three times before bioware ***** you.
- Skooma714, on 05/10/2008, -0/+126 hours after release? Try 6 days BEFORE release.
- daizaru, on 05/10/2008, -0/+11Problem is most of them are known issues that secuROM refuses to remedy. I use process explorer and in order to get games to load I am forced to reboot and make sure the program doesn't load its drivers or the game still won't boot even with the program closed. The rebooting is the solution and their logic is that becasue the program can monitor what secuROM is actually doing on my PC it's deemed not allowed. See how invasive that is?
The fact that companies still use this protection is pretty appalling. - ryodoan, on 05/10/2008, -9/+20Q: What happens when I’ve reached the maximum # of computers for my game and I need more, say due to theft of computer, computer crashes, etc?
A: EA customer service is on hand to supply any additional authorizations that are warranted. This will be done on a case-by-case basis by contacting customer support.
So yeah, not buying this game either.... - Deaconstructed, on 05/10/2008, -1/+11Still using SecuROM - just no 10 day periodic reactivation. 3 Activations Limit is still a hot topic.
- daizaru, on 05/10/2008, -1/+10I'm actually burying this as lame for the sub caption. The person is intentionally trying to lead people into believing securom is 100% gone with a clear omission of details. "Securom...." instead of "Securom's 10-day authentication".
- MavRevMatt, on 05/10/2008, -1/+10That and EA Games forces them to.
- aelias, on 05/10/2008, -2/+10They are probably contractually obligated at this point. See if they use them for the next one.
- mrsanon, on 05/10/2008, -0/+9bioshock anyone? :/
- CReyes4182, on 05/10/2008, -5/+13Just for that I'll get this game.. legally :p
- Shadowgamers, on 05/10/2008, -1/+9'our many friends in the armed services and internationally who expressed concerns that they would not be able re-authenticate as often as required'
Support the troops card? - Enjia, on 05/10/2008, -3/+11still SecurROM'd still need internet to install it, will crap out after the third install.
- roflganker, on 05/10/2008, -2/+10If I'm on fire and you piss on me, I'm thankful.
But you still pissed on me. - babykicker, on 05/10/2008, -0/+8It is not a big deal until EA decides that you don't deserve another activation. EA says it will look at extra activations on a case by case basis, there is no guarantee you will be allowed more than three activations. Its Bioshock all over again, your not buying the game, just renting it. Ten dollars says on the release day the activation servers are swamped preventing legit customers from playing. Another ten bucks says that its on thepiratebay within a day of release with no securerom activation, proving once again that the copyright protection only affects those who legally purchase the game.
- Enjia, on 05/10/2008, -6/+13Keep in mind that every upgrade of your computer bioware will see it as a new computer, and since you can only install three times your *****..
- Murdats, on 05/10/2008, -1/+8its why I pirated bioshock, screw having a game tell me how I can use my computer.
- Ymeg, on 05/10/2008, -1/+7Are there any MMOs that require a CD?
- Kwipper, on 05/10/2008, -2/+8From Bioware's perspective. Yes.
From my perspective. No. - Llanowar, on 05/10/2008, -5/+11I'm making a note here...
You suck ass. - Aensland, on 05/10/2008, -0/+6^^ Exactly the problem. Turnover in this industry is damn high. Hell, some of us were bringing this issue to attention years ago, guess what the company pooh-poohed us. Now they're out of business, and we're all *****. Bah.
- Culyt, on 05/10/2008, -0/+6Strange... one of the best solutions to insane copy protection is piracy...
- SoyCockail, on 05/10/2008, -0/+6Since people like AzraDarkness are going to crack the game anyways they put in DRM to punish customers who don't crack the game? That makes sense. The whole reason I crack games that I bought is because of the ridiculous DRM, and requiring a CD to play the game.
- Murdats, on 05/10/2008, -1/+6I will support developers who dont feel they have the right to hijack my computer so I can enjoy the privilege of playing their game.
- Enjia, on 05/10/2008, -5/+10it's still secureROM, read the article.
- Cyborg326, on 05/10/2008, -3/+8Not perfect, but definitely an iprovment.
- cyrax6, on 05/10/2008, -0/+5Essentially what they are saying is that AFTER you have BOUGHT the game, THEY decide how you can use the game. This is bad. Real bad. What about first sale? If I don't like the game (I seriously doubt it), can I sell it to someone? This is like selling a car to someone and everytime you sell it to someone and having to request the keys to YOUR car from the car company. The only things you really need are the insurance documents and the sale agreement.
I am not buying this game. I love Bioware to the point that I bought Neverwinter Nights three times till date (everytime I lost one I bought another one). - ch4os1337, on 05/10/2008, -4/+9Let this be an example.
- aboyd, on 05/10/2008, -1/+6I have played Diablo 2 and Baldur's Gate for about 8 years now. In that time, they've been installed on probably 16 "different" computers (different is in quotes because it was probably only 6 or 7 actually different computers, but each one got some heavy upgrades, which requires a new authorization). It was never installed on multiple computers at the same time, never pirated, always paid for. I just get old computers from friends, piece them together, and try to create good gaming boxes for cheap. The SecuROM system in place today absolutely prohibits what I do. Even if I can beg for an extra authorization, I cannot pull it off 16 times. They cut you off at a certain point, assuming piracy.
This is why I play games that don't have such restrictions. - ortucis, on 05/10/2008, -1/+6ROFL?
- iamaelephant, on 05/10/2008, -0/+5Dunno why you're being dugg down, this is an excellent idea and worked well in UT2k4
- pigfister, on 05/10/2008, -0/+5sony's screwUrom is still being used, as is the need for a net authorisation, can't w8 to see the outcry when sony do this rolling activation on blu-ray's.
but what do you expect from anti consumer sony!
Name, shame and boycott anti consumer ppl
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX. - irinotecan, on 05/10/2008, -0/+5BioWare did the same for NWN when it reached End of Life.
- andyd273, on 05/10/2008, -0/+5I'd really like to see more games go with Steams protection.
I bought half life 2 in the store, and never even took the DVD out of the case. Just typed in the number and installed that way.
On the other hand, I bought bioshock, installed it from the DVD, went through the activation, and when it was finally all done, it said my DVD was bad. I couldn't even play until I downloaded the no DVD cracked exe... Now I've beaten it, and I have to figure out how to get the crap copy protection off of my computer so that it doesn't mess up anything else. - Loonacy, on 05/10/2008, -0/+4Talk to me when they remove SecuROM completely.
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