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- StarWarsFever, on 07/17/2009, -0/+57IN OTHER NEWS THE SKY IS BLUE AND JONAS BROS SUCKS
- eregorn, on 07/17/2009, -3/+30Wait, wait... you mean to say that a 6-foot tall, 215-pound athlete would be a better basketball player than a 4-foot tall, 85-pound midget? Incredible!
- SweetDaddyD, on 07/17/2009, -1/+12What about jockeys?
Professional Limboists?
Female Volleyball players? (bigger definitely not better. Let's not pretend like anyone actually cares about the score) - tamman2000, on 07/17/2009, -2/+9Until you need endurance... The best marathoners in the world tend to be about average height if not a little short...
- trakie, on 07/17/2009, -0/+7FTA: "The researchers did not take into account the impact of improved training techniques or professionalism in sport"
This is a huge thing to ignore. - JustJoe4Life, on 07/17/2009, -1/+7Except in games of skill.
- eluusive, on 07/17/2009, -1/+6WTF @ "The engineers discovered that the laws of locomotion mean that they fall to the ground more quickly between each running stride or swimming stroke and therefore can outperform lighter competitors. "
Last time I checked everything accelerates downward at approximately 9.8 meters/sec^2 regardless of size.... - diggerpleez, on 07/17/2009, -1/+6And yet someone is funding this research... probably you or me.
- OLTP, on 07/17/2009, -0/+5“In antiquity, body weights were roughly 70 per cent less than they are today,” said Mr Charles who believes their training would be equivalent to army athletes today.
Math fail? I hope he meant either 70% of today's body weights, or 30% less than today's body weights. Or did the average Greek or Roman adult really weigh about 50 pounds? - ChadTable, on 07/17/2009, -0/+5True, and bikes tend to equalize size as well. For example, Mark Cavendish, the fastest sprinter in cycling, is a fairly small guy. And many of the guys in the Tour de France weight like 140-150 lbs.
- miffelplix, on 07/17/2009, -0/+3Depends on the sport. Height is not necessarily an advantage in gymnastics, cycling, soccer, golf, etc.
- CaviMike, on 07/17/2009, -0/+3digg, please never remove the 'ok, this is lame' button.
- Numb51, on 07/17/2009, -2/+5It's not always the case in terms of upper body strength, even though this article doesn't really mention that. Very tall people with long arms can rarely bench press more then average sized people with average length arms. Tall people have to make the weight travel further per rep.
- blackinthmiddle, on 07/17/2009, -0/+3You're 6'4"? Congrats, man! Want a cookie?
- Hockey13, on 07/17/2009, -0/+3You must apply to the Research College at Generalizations University.
- ng007, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2For a tall person, that also means that it's that much harder to get to the point where they could lift the same weight. Shorter people advance quicker in terms of what they can lift.
- junatik, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2For bikes it's all about your power to weight ratio. A rider who is 5'2" won a stage in the TDF a few days ago.
- tamman2000, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2dugg for the last part...
- MothBoy, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2Just for the record, I will be absolutely shocked if it doesn't come out one day that Usain Bolt is shot up like a racehorse. There is a reason that large people don't typically explode out of the blocks like he does, and there is a reason why the Jamaican sprinters trained at home and didn't travel to meets prior to the Olympics, so they would only be tested by their own doctor. How many Jamaican sprinters shattered their own personal bests during the Olympics?
- tamman2000, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2If the weight travels further they are doing more work. A tall person lifting the same weight develops greater tension in their muscles, and could fairly be said to be stronger based on that...
- Vandango, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2What about jockey's? The horse is the athlete. The guy is there to give it directions.
- ng007, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2Not every tall person is such a human dynamo, even if they weigh a little more . . .
- StormlordElite, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2IT'S GON' RAIN!
- nepidae, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2That's some fine police work Lou.
- SharpEye, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2There are a hell of a lot of highly paid 5'9" and under professional athletes out there giving the middle finger to this study.
- inactive, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2Here is documented video evidence that suggests otherwise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH-wyxk6_NQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syKqI7_Jgq8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POJ2T023M4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFFPQyaAzYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zhQb_nkR0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3QzX1ZadJM
In real competition the little guy always wins. - catdawg555, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2Then that means a lion should be faster then a cheetah.
- 64705, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2Was Captain Obvious at lunch or something?
- teamr, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2I dont think the article says that if your bigger your automatically better. Its just saying that you have a natural physical advantage. But if your going to bring up MMA examples, i'm sure you can find 100x more videos of goliath beating david....hell, didn't you watch that lesnar/mir fight last week? Mir was crushed by an opponent with less skill and experience but who was physically superior in every way. Those videos you posted are the exception, not the norm.
Also, let's not forget that most of those videos are goliath vs even bigger goliath. Fedor Emelianenko is 6 feet 230lb with a 74 inch reach! - salinemist, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1Only if you're climbing. On the flat it's more power vs air resistance.
- skinny01, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1It all depends on the sport. In some sports, having a high stength to weight ratio is the most important. In others, leverage is more important, and in others, pure size is important. I used to run track and did really well in the high jump (could clear 6'10" when I was only about 5'9" in high school). I was all legs, had the legs of a much taller person but with very little upper body mass at all, so I was just all propulsion with little to weigh me down. But I couldn't swim a lick with very little surface area on my torso or bouyancy. I would do well in med length sprints where the mechanics of my long legs helped me out but not as good in short 50m sprints where I didn't have the pure leg speed. But in the 100-200, my leg length/stride made the difference.
In some sports you need to be able to move specific weights so lifting heavy is necessary in training, in others you have to move your own body weight so your strength/bodyweight ratio is more important. Big bodybuilders who can lift twice as much as I can can't do 30 pullups at once but my scrawny ass can, so I have no doubt I could beat them at rock climbing for example. - blackinthmiddle, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1At 5'7", his body mass index is probably right where it should be. Nothing worse than a 5'7" guy muscling up like a bodybuilder. Maybe a muscular 5'7" and 160 lbs, tops. I worked out with a guy with pretty much those stats. He had no problem getting women. Personally, I wouldn't go over 160 lbs if I was him.
- MothBoy, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1How much did they pay these guys to research this? I want a cut too, because all it took was a quick look at the progression of the 100m record since 1974 (age of electronic timing) to see they are full of *****.
Usain Bolt is an aberration. Within the last 10 years the record was held back to back by 5'9 and 5'10 guys. Of the 13 record holders in the last 35 years, 9 were 6-0 or less, including 5 who were 5'10" or less.
Bob Hayes, 6-0 187
Jim Hines, 6-0 179
Charlie Green, 5-8, 152
Calvin Smith, 5'10", 152
Carl Lewis, 6'3", 180
Ben Johnson, 5'10", 165
Leroy Burrell, 6'0", 181
Donovan Bailey, 6'0", 180
Maurice Green, 5'9", 180
Tim Montgomery, 5'10", 160
Asafa Powell, 6'3", 190
Justin Gatlin, 6'1", 183
Usain Bolt, 6'5", 190 who were 5'10" or less - chooochooo, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1Wow, some of these researchers and their discoveries. Amazing. I noticed that too actually, taller athletes like in the olympics, world cup, NBA.. any sports are generally better athletes.
- slothlovechunk, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1I can't believe the british still use stone for weight measurement... How confusing..
- danro, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1Fedor's training regiment is also the sickest thing I've ever seen.
- ChadTable, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1True, but they're both pure sprinters, and therefore they both suck at climbing (sprinters are almost never good at climbing, too). But head to head on a flat stage with a good sprint finish, Cavendish will almost always win unless he's having a really bad day or if he isn't set up properly by his team (which usually doesn't happen). I mean, I like Thor better (and Farrar even more) but Cavendish is definitely faster.
- LucifersDad, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1But Bolt would take him apart in the shorter distances.
- salinemist, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1And Thor Hushovd, the biggest rider in the peloton, out-climbed him today to reclaim the green jersey.
- ng007, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1I think the weight is just an incidental thing that comes with being tall. The real key is the long limbs. Long limbs aren't always advantageous, however.
- MothBoy, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1Agreed, but there are quite a few smaller sprinters who can beat Bolt out of the blocks and would win at very short distances.
That's why I said it is all relative. - MothBoy, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1It is all relative.
Haile Gebrselassie is 1.65m/5'5" and 56Kg/123 pounds. He would kick the crap out of Bolt at any distance from a mile and up. - DarkRellik, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1it goin snow!
- Buzaow, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1That's what she said.
- Codeman917, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1Man, b4-4 was my faaaaaaavourite
- LucifersDad, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1So a fat untrained fighter loses to a trained smaller fighter.
Shocking.
Get a 7 foot tall, trained fighter and it would be genocide. - mrmod, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1Essentially any balance sport or mixed-technique. Cognition and coordination can be sacrificed at a certain level. A 400lb NFL lineman is large enough where his size can replace his coordination or cognition while it will never succeed for him in a sport such as surfing. Hockey would be another good example. Coordinating the stick and skates and then adding in the traditional game objectives favor coordination and control over size. Again, the 400lb person could play and prove a valuable asset but they likely won't have the requisite relative coordination just because of their size (ever ask a race horse to turn around in the starting gate?)
Getting back to it though, I really want this guy's job. -
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