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- outkaster, on 02/18/2008, -1/+34Holy crap people are gonna feel the oppression of China when they are over there. Could be a real eye opener to the rest of the world.
- ncredblstrength, on 02/18/2008, -3/+26Dear Blog, I'm here in China and I just realized that no one has cared about the Olympics since Zeus defeated Cronus...
- Andy.D, on 02/18/2008, -2/+24The 2008 Olympics are starting to look like a total farce.
- sladek, on 02/18/2008, -2/+21They shouldn't host the games in China, they have an awful human rights history and have a lot of backward practices that shouldn't be encouraged.
- swicken, on 02/18/2008, -2/+15Really the olympics, no matter the country they are held, should be considered neutral ground and rely on international law to police them. Mind you if you're off olympic grounds you have to go by local law.
But they should have a direct link to the world. They're there to celebrate something and compete, not be policed. - keyme, on 02/18/2008, -0/+13Dugg for "great firewall of China".
I guess encrypted VPN tunnels are going to become pretty hot soon.
That's why I love the Internet. If you stab it, it heals. If you block paths, new ones will form. Unless you kill the internet entirely, you can't harm it at all. - stratosonic, on 02/18/2008, -3/+13I wonder how many events Tibet will be competing in...
- lex0nyc, on 02/18/2008, -0/+10"IOC President Jacques Rogge saying that the Olympics are a sporting event, not an opportunity to demonstrate political beliefs. "[Spielberg's] absence will not harm the quality of the Games. The Beijing Games are much stronger than individuals," Rogge said."
What a tool. - vertinox, on 02/18/2008, -1/+10Does hard labor and solitary confinement count as an event?
- Reostat, on 02/18/2008, -5/+13Goddamn Mongolians!
- kshakir, on 02/18/2008, -0/+8Their firewall is harsh. I was in Beijing last July and couldn't access any images on flickr, nor any blogs hosted on typepad, including my own.
Well, ssh tunneling helped, but still, that's [currently] not for the average user. And you have to have a PC back in the US to tunnel through. - GhostyBoy, on 02/18/2008, -1/+9Why should a country whose government restricts free speech hold an international event like the Olypmics, anyway?
All these countries compete to get the Olympics, why not agree to hold it in a country that demonstrates excellence in social structure and civil liberties? - uberfu, on 02/18/2008, -0/+7Except that logic can be applied to nearly every other country that has ever hsoted the games_ Germany - France - Brittian - Japan - The USA - Greece - The Soviet Union - Spain....
So Canada - Australia and South Korea are about the only few places that have hosted the Olypmics that could claim to NOT have any shady pasts about them and even they are questionable_
I think China will have had to make certain concessions for the "right to host" the games_ - dogstar0125, on 02/18/2008, -0/+6Yeah, there are a great many reasons for boycotting these Olympics. I wasn't planning on watching them anyway.
- Magipp, on 02/18/2008, -0/+6Starting to?
- jgtg32a, on 02/18/2008, -0/+5http://xkcd.com/341/
- Genthree, on 02/18/2008, -0/+5The people wealthy enough to send their children to a foreign boarding school aren't going to be the people highly critical of the government. There's a good chance your friend's parents got rich because of the corruption in the government.
- downneck, on 02/18/2008, -0/+4they did that in 1912 and have been looking, unsuccessfully, for another one to hold it in ever since
- planetbeing, on 02/18/2008, -0/+4Unless the Chinese make a special exemption for athletes it will be very difficult for them to blog, seeing as every single public blogging site has been blocked, apparently after a Communist party member and blogger posted nude pictures of herself on her blog. On the whole, however, the Great Firewall of China is pretty trivial to bypass. When I was traveling in China and wanting to document my experiences, I set up my own proxy (if you have SSH access to any server in the US, a simple SSH tunnel will do).
The Chinese who actually live there don't care too much about censorship. I was born in China and lived there for awhile, but I was pretty annoyed at the ban on seemingly every free blogging site. - EnderMB, on 02/18/2008, -1/+5Here's a question that has been bugging me for a very long time...
Why is the international Olympics committee such a bunch of wimps? They've given China the privilege to host one of the worlds biggest sporting events, probably second to only the FIFA World Cup. As far as I'm concerned if China don't roll out the red carpet and ensure that the event goes off brilliantly, including giving athletes all the freedoms they require then it's their issue. If China do not provide a good experience then they should be blacklisted from holding the games, and other sporting events ever again, as well as stopping their country from participating.
Blogging isn't very important to me (or the rest of the world) so I don't care too much about a few athletes not being able to keep a diary of events, but as far as the general idea of anyone not being able to get information out from China and mass unemployment after the games I think that Olympics committee have a right to talk about these things. It's the Olympics' name at stake as much as China's and if China won't keep their part of the bargain I think that China should back out now to stop embarrassing themselves. - inactive, on 02/18/2008, -1/+5China is the laughing stock of the world right now for such stupid restrictions.
- fcekuahd, on 02/18/2008, -0/+4Personally, I'm going to leave my pets at home.
http://www.aapn.org/xichang.html - offspring06, on 02/19/2008, -0/+4The Olympics should only be awarded to democratic and free countries.
- Thugacation, on 02/18/2008, -0/+4Why they tear down ma (fire)wall!
- DigitAl56K, on 02/18/2008, -0/+3Yes there is, the only limitation is that you can only act on the entire tunnel at a time - i.e. block or slow the entire tunnel.
- uberfu, on 02/18/2008, -1/+4Breaking News:
"The US once again causes an International Incident when it forces a hole in the Chinese Internet in order to broadcast the events tot he rest of the world_"
In Other News:
"A rise in the hiring of "Western [society]" Hackers has occured in recent months in prep for this coming summer's Olympic Games_ When asked why - Courtney McTech said that "China was stepping up Internet Firewall protocols and that it's not our [the rest of the world's] problem that China won't let it's citizens see its country lose on international TV""
Oh Yes! I see China being able to force the rest of the planet to NOT Broadcast "certain portions" of the Olympics_ NOT!
This will be interesting to see just how much is and is not censored_ - romeyinfc, on 02/19/2008, -0/+3Like the IOC has room to talk about sporting events & political beliefs. This is the group that gets bought every two years by gift baskets of hookers and money to award an event that doesn't really turn out to be that beneficial for the host city/country.
- inactive, on 02/18/2008, -0/+3I'm sure China sees this as their bar mitzvah, they've probably pushed hard for it. Unfortunately, I imagine the committee or whatever whom decides this are PC pussies.
- uberfu, on 02/18/2008, -0/+3So - you are saying that these Chinese students you know are agreeing with the things that we hear about how China treats it's citizens?
- manitoba98xp, on 02/18/2008, -0/+3Thank you for the compliment, but Canada isn't perfect either.
If you read about the Japanese internment camps, or the treatment of Natives and Métis in earlier history, you'll see we, too, have some blemishes, even if they aren't nearly as terrible as, say, Germany's. - MadNuke, on 02/18/2008, -1/+4Could bloggers not subscribe to a satellite "anywhere" service like Verizon's plan?
- br0wnstar, on 02/18/2008, -2/+4Toronto '08!
- inactive, on 02/18/2008, -0/+2I don't think there's a way to shape traffic that comes from an encrypted VPN tunnel.
- taintedzodiac, on 02/18/2008, -0/+2Yeah, Apple really wants the Chinese to sue them for cracking their network. That's a great business move.
- mrtrevin, on 02/18/2008, -1/+3...They don't block remote desktop connections. A friend of mine was in China last summer and that was his way through, "the great firewall."
/just a note - SmpleJohn, on 02/18/2008, -4/+6Hmm... where's my pet pigeon?
- LeeSoong, on 02/19/2008, -0/+2No problem for 733T Bl0GG34Z !
Whole country of China?
p0wnd ! - ichserbe, on 02/19/2008, -0/+2China should not have the right to have the Olympics, it is like rewarding them for their backwards treatment of human life.
- RajAtWork, on 02/18/2008, -0/+2that is why we need someone with balls in the office like Reagan. Boycotting of Moscow Olympics was the beginning of the end for Soviet Union.
- GhostyBoy, on 02/18/2008, -1/+3Or an album that will never come out.
- nationalist, on 02/18/2008, -1/+3sounds like an oxymorom
- Hangly, on 02/19/2008, -0/+1Install Tor or Freegate, problem solved.
If 20,000,000 Chinese have figured out how to get through the firewall, so can the olympians. - Hangly, on 02/19/2008, -0/+1They probably will. I'm not firewalled because I work for an American company (and our internet goes through India.)
- Hangly, on 02/19/2008, -0/+1Of course not.
- inactive, on 02/19/2008, -0/+1As far as I'm concerned the Olympics have been canceled.........
- ShrimpCrackers, on 02/18/2008, -0/+1They did make concessions. They were going to improve Human Rights as well. Unfortunately virtually all the internationally recognized human rights groups said its made worse and China's just putting up a dog and pony show.
- taintedzodiac, on 02/18/2008, -1/+2Is China even allowing them to compete as a separate team?
- mrsteveman1, on 02/18/2008, -0/+1Yes, but situations like this need to happen for anything to change. If Chinas network fscking causes serious problems and those problems get reported widely, there will be immense pressure put on the Chinese government to back off.
- ShrimpCrackers, on 02/18/2008, -0/+1They've got 1,350 plus ballistic missiles aimed at democratic Taiwan, human rights orgs have said that human rights in China actually has gotten worse since the Tiananmen Square Massacre. Its proven that China sold nuclear secrets and has been extensively organ harvesting its own citizens. Interesting that all these US corporations and famous figures are getting their hands into the "bloody" Beijing olympics. I've been writing letters to tell them to pull out. I was pretty happy that Steven Spielberg grew balls and pulled out.
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