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- inactive, on 02/20/2009, -3/+655"The Manhattan District Attorney said that the YouTube video footage along with witness accounts clearly contradicted Pogan’s claim that the cyclist was “obstructing government administration” and resisting arrest."
Had there not been any footage, the cyclist would have been behind bars for who knows how long. Good riddance to bad cops and Viva La Cameras! - inactive, on 02/20/2009, -6/+480No wonder the UK has banned the practice of photographing the cops.
- kemp34, on 02/20/2009, -6/+316Throw the book at him!
If you are in a position of PUBLIC RESPONSIBILITY your punishments for transgressions should be HIGHER. - inactive, on 02/20/2009, -4/+277This is a clear example of police abuse and there is no way it should be rewarded or ignored, the CAMERAS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM, police abuse is.
(I AM LOOKING AT YOU UK) - speedythedog, on 02/20/2009, -9/+220For every cop busted by the camera there are hundreds that keep on abusing and getting away with it...
- Smokeydabear, on 02/20/2009, -4/+160Good, I'm glad something finally happened to that ***** douche bag.
- Velvolver, on 02/20/2009, -4/+152Wait what????
- inactive, on 02/20/2009, -13/+160Lesson learned. Every time you see a cop, get your camera out.
... and get ready to run. - diggduggDOOM, on 02/20/2009, -1/+130Wow. It sure looks like this is true. So, the UK government feels free to take video and pictures of its citizens, but the citizens can't take video and pictures of the government?
- styx31989, on 02/20/2009, -4/+116Just imagine what could have happened if there was no video...
- Elsewhere42, on 02/20/2009, -1/+105Little Brother is watching!
Always video any police action you see... and post it on YouTube! - inactive, on 02/20/2009, -17/+103Cops typically tend to be former high school football players who peaked at 17 years old. With no more "nerds" to pick on, they instead slap a badge on themselves to abuse anyone they can.
- alexsk8ca, on 02/20/2009, -2/+80Yeah the internet is the best thing that has ever happened to help catch bad cops. They get caught on tape, uploaded to youtube, posted to digg, we bitch about it and digg it up, then something has to be done about the cop. Before you'd have a guy with a camera that would have to take it to the news channels himself and hope they think it's worth playing and even if they did it gets played once and most of the time nothing would get done. One thing that is happening though is cops hate cameras and will often tell people to turn them off, even though they have the right to film cops a lot of people don't know. I have had cops tell me to stop filming plenty of times.
- adikt, on 02/20/2009, -0/+72I live in NY. When I was in my early 20's my friend was pulled over for blowing a red light. My friend and I know that pulling over young men can be potentially dangerous for the police so we try to make it as safe as possible by keeping our hand in view at all times, telling the police officer where we are going to place our hands before we do (ie. going in the glove box for the proof of insurance) and being generally respectful, after all, we did break a traffic law and the officer is doing his duty. This particular officer had a bug up his ass, something fierce. He was yelling from minute one of us rolling down the window. It escalated to the point where he was reaching through my friends window and twisting his arm after taking the license from his hands. He was screaming about how we could have smashed into a bus of children, killing them all (not that it matters but it was 11pm). I took out my camera and started taking pictures, not really for evidence, but to get him off my friend. His partner opened my passenger side door and took the camera out of my hands, but not before hitting me in the face with the butt of his maglight. My camera wound up in pieces on the street and we were both pulled from the car and slammed to the hood of our car, cuffed and thrust to the curb while the cops tossed my friends car, for drugs, weapons and whatever else they thought they might find. (they found nothing).
In the end we were let go but not before we were threatened with charges of threatening bodily harm to a police officer, and assaulting a police officer if we tried to pursue police brutality complaints. I stupidly proclaimed that what they were doing was an abuse of their powers.
I know this was an isolated incident, but 10 years later I still remember the feeling of terror when I realized, "these guys can do ANYTHING they want and we are helpless." There is no worse feeling in the world then being a victim at the hands of the people you are brought up to trust. - JROXZ, on 02/20/2009, -2/+72Keep those videos coming...
- Kylde, on 02/20/2009, -7/+77how on earth did he expect to get away with that in THAT crowd? Makes me wonder what the cyclist shouted to him :)
- Vanostaajen, on 02/20/2009, -3/+69Why did that cop push him?
Is he angry because he's too fat to ride a bike? - jebus123, on 02/20/2009, -2/+64Who watches the watchers? Nobody, that's who!
- mnortei, on 02/20/2009, -3/+60e-Justice prevails once again
- davebg8r, on 02/20/2009, -0/+53He is given a position of power and authority. To abuse that power and the public trust is such situations is worse than when a regular person does it. It undermines faith and trust in the system.
- Cige, on 02/20/2009, -0/+53Indeed. Anybody can have moments when they just snap, but when that person is in a position of power, there need to be consequences, as their actions have consequences.
- ironhide, on 02/20/2009, -3/+53Sadly, the police tend to be more loyal to each other than to the people they are supposed to be serving.
- moose26, on 02/20/2009, -2/+39Ok,.. this quote below is taken from the New York Times and I find it disturbing...
“They make errors all the time,” Mr. London said of the Police Department’s assertion that Mr. Pogan had been fired. Mr. Pogan resigned “to concentrate his efforts on fighting the criminal charges that are against him,” Mr. London said, “so that when he is ultimately acquitted he can reapply to the Police Department.
The lawyer is basically saying his client was not fired, but he chose to resign so he could focus all his attention to his case. The guy also says he expects his client to be ultimately acquited and such would reapply and be rehired to the Police Department.
Is it just me, or is this kinda nuts. Commit a crime as a cop with evidence showing you did it clearly, then get a lawyer to later on acquit you of the crime and then possibly reapply to the same Police Department.
This just seems wrong.
Do the crime, Do the time, Do not get back in line for your old job back.. period! - nimawin, on 02/20/2009, -0/+36the clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUkiyBVytRQ
- deathandtaverns, on 02/20/2009, -1/+36My sentence would be more if I shoved a police officer off a bicycle, so shouldn't it be the same if a police officer does that to me?
- theswany, on 02/20/2009, -7/+40He's not way off at all. All the people in my high school that could fit that example are now in law enforcement.
- Smokeydabear, on 02/20/2009, -4/+37Don't tase me, bro?
- ravedigger, on 02/20/2009, -1/+32I'd really like to know what was going through that cop's head when he decided to do that. What made him pick that cyclist?
- superflydugg, on 02/20/2009, -2/+33Justice served gives me a calming sensation.
- deathandtaverns, on 02/20/2009, -1/+31Quite a few US cities have ordinances against photographing police officers too. They claim it's to protect them if they have to go undercover.
- inactive, on 02/20/2009, -12/+42That cop really pushed that guy hard. The bike rider was only trying to go around his fat ass. I think the was just ready for a donut and coffee, and just got into a donut rage... that's his new defense... I was trying to kick the donut high, and I just couldn't control myself.
***** pig. - jasonbalmforth, on 02/20/2009, -1/+30It's true, see this article from the Guardian of Feb 16th.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/feb/1 ... - Elsewhere42, on 02/20/2009, -6/+34There should be ZERO bad cops.
Until then Little Brother will keep telling on Big Brother! - ironhide, on 02/20/2009, -3/+31Being "good" is their job.
- stoanhart, on 02/20/2009, -0/+27I can't wait until a few more years from now. Then, I intend to own an Android phone with the battery life to be able to stream audio from the mic 24/7 to a server on the internet. Then, if I ever encounter a crooked cop, I will have the whole transaction recorded and they can't even confiscate it.
- MattB123, on 02/20/2009, -0/+26I think it was "Watch out!"
- Nodaki, on 02/20/2009, -0/+26In a world where the rule of law applied to all:
The second cop slammed the offending cop down on the ground, handcuffed him and immediately booked him for felony assault. The offending officer was tried and convicted, sentenced to five years and made to pay restitution. He was released after one year for good behavior, attending anger managment courses in prison and writing and apology letter to the man. He will never be able to get a job in law enforcement again. - inactive, on 02/20/2009, -4/+30Cops should be trained not to have moments when they snap. How many other incidents like this have happened out of camera range?
- hiphoc, on 02/20/2009, -2/+27"obstructing government administration” and resisting arrest."
This is what I call cover your ass charges that somehow got put on the books.
Cops beat your ass then arrest you and charge you with obstructing government administration” and resisting arrest."
Mouth off to a cop.... get charged with obstructing government administration and resisting arrest.
Spend time in jail and pay a summons or go get a lawyer, cant afford one to fight the ***** charge... Tough luck. This is called justice American style!! - NCSUspoon, on 02/20/2009, -0/+25What I don't understand is why some law enforcement offices insist on keeping their cops after they have been proven to be abusive.
- ProfessorLX, on 02/20/2009, -2/+26crazy.. heading towards the government controlled state much like in V for Vendetta (which by the way is a ***** excellent movie)
- dafragsta, on 02/20/2009, -1/+25He did that in a position of power hoping that it would prevent him from getting out of trouble. Nothing inspires hatred and lack of trust for the police than people like this guy. He should get a much harser punishment. The justice system is all about making examples out of people right?
- oldhick, on 02/20/2009, -8/+32Where are these thousands of good cops? Like the one that watched is buddy do it in the video?
- altgeeky1, on 02/20/2009, -1/+24gnocchri: Don't assume cops aren't trained to keep their cool. They are.
It's just that there ARE bad apples, and worse than the bad apples are the "good" cops who turn a blind eye to such abuse. - ahussain1986, on 02/20/2009, -2/+23or the armed forces.
- plaeground, on 02/20/2009, -0/+21this is "little brother" in action
the surveillance state will be balanced and off set by this type of action. - beerhound, on 02/20/2009, -1/+21But then the cyclist would have been charged with inciting a riot!
- blackinthmiddle, on 02/20/2009, -0/+20@adikt
I also grew up in NYC and cops pulled us over in the middle of the Grand Concourse. Two of them had their guns drawn on us while the other two searched our car for no reason whatsoever. Once they decided they were wasting their time, they told us to leave but be careful: we could get shot next time. Needless to say, I'm not fond of cops. - smotpoker, on 02/20/2009, -0/+20You can get charged with resisting arrest or obstruction for running from cops, regardless of your motive or whether you've committed a crime. The best idea is to hide yourself and film from there unless maybe you're in with a group of people who are also recording or part of a large crowd.
If you're just by yourself recording the event, the cops are just as likely to beat you and steal the tape as they are to stop what they're doing and behave properly. Plus if a bunch of video evidence starts showing up and the cops didn't know they were being recorded, maybe it will help teach them they'll never know if someone is watching and to act right regardless of whether they see a camera. - treehugger87, on 02/20/2009, -0/+19JUSTICE! That made my day. My next phone will DEFINITELY have the ability to take high quality video.
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