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- johndi, on 10/05/2008, -5/+19They might as well tattoo "Government Property" on everyone.
- Hegemony, on 10/06/2008, -1/+9Yeah... because all the previous anti-drug efforts have worked so well.
- Tynan, on 10/06/2008, -1/+7Thanks Bill! Good to know you care.
(sorry) - ganjamonsta, on 10/06/2008, -2/+6You're exactly right. I've known many people with pituitary problems that have used HGH safely. But when you try and create a prohibition of something people want, it just causes unsafe usage. Look at the times when abortion was illegal, how many women died having unsafe abortions? Same goes now with steroid abuse. People don't seem to like the idea, but ALL drugs should be legal and attainable through professional and clean sources.
- lpfan076, on 10/06/2008, -1/+5It could be worse. At my old high school (Milford High School in ohio), we had an undercover cop pose as a student for 6 months. She made friends with people that used drugs, and did the drugs with them. She eventually brought down ~30 people as I remember it. Two years later (my senior year), they instituted mandatory, random drug testing for anyone who purchased a parking pass or played a school sport. I was also searched/patted down as a freshman by the school cop because I passed along a counterfeit $10 bill I got from my mom. I was a freshman at the time.
I guess that would explain my distrust for the government and disdain for high school.. - wreckosaurus, on 10/06/2008, -1/+5Who cares what Bill thinks, guy looks like a douche anyway.
- GregIsLegend, on 10/06/2008, -0/+3The A.C.L.U is so ripe for parody, but I do appreciate everything they do.
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -3/+6What really are the consequences of properly using performance-enhancing drugs use like HGH? As I understand it, the horror stories, early death and ball shrinkage, result from improper use. More and more, and especially for drugs that are safe, I think we might as well just allow it. To ban stuff you can never really test for perfectly just punishes the honest guys and makes the stuff people do use much less likely to be safe, since they're getting it from drug dealers instead of above-board MDs.
- bmorris, on 10/07/2008, -0/+3I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. ~Voltaire
- dizilbdog, on 10/06/2008, -1/+4Hey Athletes stop doing steroids Oh yeah have fun at the Kegger on Friday night.
- DrSavage5, on 10/06/2008, -2/+5I can't believe they have the audacity to teach teenagers the dangerous side effects of of illegal steroids. How dare they push their government funded agendas down the throat of these teens, call the ACLU, teenagers should be allowed to experiment with any drug they want.
I'm all for experimenting with drugs, hell, why not have rampant free sex just like the 60's.
I mean, big deal, people will become drug addicts and get all types of STD's, but that's a small price to pay for protecting their civil liberties. - inactive, on 10/06/2008, -1/+3$190 for a test...240,000 students being tested....$45,600,000 wasted on tests that on average only catch one student per year. Wow.
- aukxsona, on 10/06/2008, -0/+2This is why I home school. No invasion of their privacy. Besides I know everything they do, why the hell does a school need to know?
- 1776, on 10/05/2008, -6/+8Keep paying tens of millions of dollars for idiots to chase a football or hit a baseball and drug use will be a permanent fixture among young athletes.
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -1/+3Roids aren't about a 5X improvement... they're about that crucial 2-3% that separates the world champ from the also-ran. A hundredth of a second, a few extra feet. And they're about being able to recover from injury better.
You're trying to sound like you know what you're talking about...but all the roids in the worldn't wouldn't make a guy throw a baseball 510mph, which is what you implied. - ganjamonsta, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2you're using prohibitionist logic. there are three schools of thought on that, people are inherently good, people are inherently bad, and people are inherently animalistic.
- lion1750, on 10/06/2008, -0/+2When I first read the title, I thought Bill Gates was going to further anti-drug efforts.
- Wetzilla, on 10/06/2008, -0/+2You may want to read that a bit more closely. "Of about 1,000 athletes tested statewide at the beginning of both school years, only two tests were positive, one each year.". There are 240,000 students in the program, but only 1000 are tested each year. That's why it's called a random drug test, the pick a random few students to be tested. so the program only ends up costing $190,000. Which, while it seems like a very large number, is much smaller than the one you originally came up with.
- dives425, on 10/06/2008, -1/+2~Trillion dollar bailout, stagflation, ongoing expense of military operations in the middle east... what better time than to increase spending on drug enforcement and prevention programs? Thanks Senator Codey!
- ganjamonsta, on 10/12/2008, -0/+1and just to be clear. yes, i think all drugs should be legal and attainable through a professional, clean source. even methamphetamine.
- thegrantman, on 10/05/2008, -3/+4Cue the A.C.L.U.
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1Yeah, I take steroids. I eat that ***** for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -2/+3We must.... Kill Bill!
- starfisch, on 10/06/2008, -1/+2What gives Bill the right?
- DrSavage5, on 10/06/2008, -1/+2I don't see any problem with distributing HGH to teenagers...i mean, educate them on how to use it, and its fine...
You two are def Libs, and you obviously have never had children and you are def not mature enough to raise any.
Ganja monster, you really think all drugs should be legal? Even Meth? Where do you draw the line, weed is one thing, in fact I smoke some sour diesel on the regualr, but please, grow up and realize that some people just can't handle drugs..especially teenagers - Mthrsuperior, on 10/07/2008, -1/+2Keep your laws off my body
- BobHarley, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1This program would probably be more appropriate in Staten Island......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ype2HAgrfSM
- ShadySpace, on 10/07/2008, -1/+2I'm a senior in a Jersey high school who was drug tested TODAY. About my 4th time getting tested throughout high school. You go to my school and the parking lot is empty, reason being that you are then subject to random drug tests.
Doesn't make that much of a difference anyway.
They have a second "suspicion-based" policy which, if a teacher doesn't like you or you didn't get enough sleep because you were up late studying, they are legally obliged to drug test the student who has no say or recourse in the matter. My mother's a lawyer and I still couldn't get out of that *****. Jersey's drug test policy is draconian and unconstitutional, but it's for the safety of the children so obviously all rights go out the window. - c010rb1indusa, on 10/06/2008, -2/+3Only in New Jersery, damn guidos
- yuutokun, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1Bill's such a swell guy
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1Bill's a dick, hasn't paid back the $5 he owed me for that sandwich he ordered.
- Dauntless1, on 10/07/2008, -0/+0Hell, if they can't compete without it, I guess it's ok.
/s - mjhamilton, on 10/06/2008, -1/+1Even when they defend NAMBLA? I love free speech as much as anyone but there are some things out there you just shouldn't defend, especially if you want to be taken seriously.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/2000 ... - crapolatime, on 10/06/2008, -1/+1remember the days when they needed evidence to persecute people with allegations of drug abuse?
Go read your constitution and live free.
Otherwise quit ***** up things for the rest of us. - inactive, on 10/07/2008, -1/+1Oh...*****.
- bootup, on 10/07/2008, -1/+1That isn't what they are saying at all. The right to do so doesn't require one to do so. Even though parents have the right to raise their own children for the most part as they see fit the school authorities have no such rights. As government run institution the schools must obey the Constitution and said students rights where parents haven't waved those rights. It is bad enough that we are attaching strings to school sponsored activities as they are government funded-and thus should theoretically be prevented from thus violating students rights. Where the government can't invade the privacy of an adult the school has no such power to invade the privacy of a student.
In this case I was at the school in question here. Hunterdon Central is a good example of where resources were wasted to find out that the student athletes weren't using illegal drugs. Even if they had been it is not the state's right to drug test students. Like the rights of all citizens to be presumed innocent until found otherwise you can't invade a students privacy without reasonable suspicion. If they are shooting up on school property you call the police. You don't drug test them. That is not the job of the school-nor are the school administrators qualified to do so. - anonysumo, on 10/07/2008, -0/+0The US Supreme Court has already ruled that students in extracurricular activities can be tested for whatever the school wants to test for. No court is likely to take such a challenge seriously.
- Dauntless1, on 10/08/2008, -0/+0Obviously I was exaggerating, but the point is the same. At the end of the day, what separates real athletes isn't drugs. If you can't get there on your own, you don't deserve to stand with those who do.
- anonysumo, on 10/07/2008, -1/+0Yes, we should stamp out drug use, so the greatest recognition goes to the most genetically anomalous of ball-handlers.
OTOH, if the star athlete is caught smoking weed, shouldn't he/she get some sort of medal? - Dauntless1, on 10/07/2008, -2/+1People tend to get aggravated when I mention that if you are chemically enhanced you aren't a real athlete. "Oh look, I'm HUGE and can throw a baseball at FIVE TIMES the world record in speed. Oh, but the last guy did it naturally, so he's a loser. He only used what he was born with. I think when I'm not good enough to win in a legit fashion, it's time to get more drugs!"
- lovemorgul, on 10/06/2008, -3/+1you know dragnet has hardly bagged enough abusers to burn out the lights on the scoreboard at any high school football field.
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