Amazing Korean Archery watch!
youtube.com — Two korean men perform some insane accuracy with a bow and arrow. Not just fluke shots!
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- umdigger, on 10/12/2007, -4/+48Didn't they do this on mythbusters one time and say it was practically impossible because of the vibrations of the arrow?
I gues they should've gone to Korea to do the tests.- nazuraki, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32Kyudo uses a different arrow than European longbows. They are usually made out of bamboo, which naturally splits much easier than hard woods.
Still incredible precision though.- archer823, on 02/07/2008, -0/+1Kyudo? Did you watch the video? It's modern olympic style archery.
- UrlorJkron, on 10/12/2007, -3/+41If you look closely you can see that the arrow that is already in the target is hollow and has larger diameter than the arrow shot.
- gcnaddict, on 10/12/2007, -19/+7Boom, Headshot!
- marvin69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19The Myth Busters were using wood arrows these are graphite arrows being shot at hollow aluminum arrows without the knock (the plastic tip that attaches to the bow string)
Go to any archery range and they will have lots of "telescoped" arrows. - magus_melchior, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Um, that wasn't kyudo. They were using compound bows, targets, and arrows. It really didn't look as if the target arrow split in any way (compared to the high-speed that the Mythbusters did on both visits of the split-arrow myth), it looked as if it were a hollow tube (which is still an incredible shot at 30 meters).
- Brewdaddy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7For one, that was too 1337 to handle. I don't think I could even see that accurately down the range.
For two, they aren't compound bows. There are no cams (the pulley-looking loops) on them. They just have the extending balances like competition bows, which I hear are usually compound. - marvin69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11They were not using compound bows they were using re-curved bows. Compound bows use pulleys to reduce the pull weight at full draw.
- twister6284, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@UrlorJkron
I can't believe the two posts above you required that explanation. It was so easy to see that the arrow in the target was like a sheath for the other arrow. - nazuraki, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@magus
Trust me, these guys weren't using the traditional gear, but they were trained in classical kyudo.- archer823, on 02/07/2008, -0/+1Trust me, they're not trained in classical kyudo at all. They're trained in modern archery techniques that take into account biomechanics and not some ancient wisdom of zen archery. There's a reason why the Koreans have dominated olympic style archery since 1988 though and it's because they've just trained harder and better than the rest of the world.
- artofwar420, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3Mhhhh.. that first guy is hotness, he's so buff and sexy.
- magus_melchior, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@nazuraki
Care to elaborate? I see all the techniques the Olympians use in archery, not the moves required with the traditional gear (the big guy doing the arrow-on-arrow shot, perhaps-- but that doesn't equal kyudo). What are they doing differently that is specific to kyudo?
@marvin: Nice catch. They were counterweighted recurves, my bad. - yasth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1All archery tournements (out to some range) have multiple bulls eyes per target sheet, one per each arrow in a flight. The reason for that is that if you are good you wil waste a lot of arrows "robin hooding" and arrows are not cheap.
Hell I've even done it, not from that range, but you shoot enough arrows at a target with a strong enough bow, and eventually you'll get lucky (or rather unlucky see above comment about price of arrows).
That doesn't mean they aren't skilled, just that it isn't impossible. No traditional technique (or Koreans) needed. - pixelminer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Naruzaki has no idea what he's talking about. These guys are members of the korean national "yang koong" team. "Yang koong" meaning WESTERN ARCHERY. Who ever gave him thumbs ups are a bunch of ignoramuses just like him. Yeah, I'll trust ya, when hell freezes over.
- pixelminer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1btw, urlor is correct. As a matter of fact the announcer on the show tells the audience that they did use hollowed out arrow first the second arrow will be able to enter the first one.
- themastersb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My 1st reaction when looking at this video was "Mythbusters" lol
- nazuraki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@magus
It's not so much the style I meant as it is custom. It is exceedingly rare for Korean archers to study anything but the traditional kyudo forms initially, both as a cultural and functional art. That said, there are distinctive signs of kyudo training, mostly notably their breathing. In kyudo, you hold your breath for several seconds and then slowly let it out as you fire. Then after they release, you see them turning the bow in towards them. This serves a purpose in Western archery too, to dissipate the recoil, but it is subtly different in kyudo in that the action is also used to time the final breath release. You can see this in the video if you watch closely.
@pixel
I have never in my life heard of 'yang koong,' and I have extensively studied Asian martial arts and kyudo. A quick Google confirms my suspicion that it does not exist. It is possible you were thinking of koong sul, or koong do, or koong shi do, all of which are Korean branches of traditional kyudo forms.- archer823, on 02/07/2008, -0/+1Your really out of touch on this one. There's a distinct difference between eastern archery that your talking about and what these people are doing. Just because they're Korean, that doesn't mean they're practicing Korean archery =P Trust me, I'm Korean. I'm an archer. I'm NOT a Kyudo, Korean style, whatever you want to call it archer. I shoot Olympic recurve target and field archery. It's just a vastly different concept than Kyudo.
Also lastly? Kyudo? Japanese zen archery. Koreans shoot short bows that usually you see people on horses use. That's traditiional Korean archery.
- archer823, on 02/07/2008, -0/+1Your really out of touch on this one. There's a distinct difference between eastern archery that your talking about and what these people are doing. Just because they're Korean, that doesn't mean they're practicing Korean archery =P Trust me, I'm Korean. I'm an archer. I'm NOT a Kyudo, Korean style, whatever you want to call it archer. I shoot Olympic recurve target and field archery. It's just a vastly different concept than Kyudo.
- pgdn963, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0to nazuraki
This Art is NOT Kyudo.
This is Korean Archery They called "Yang Kung" or Yang Goong.
and archery is NOT Japanese arts.
on the contrary. all of which are Japanese Arts branches of traditional Yang Goong forms.
and historically, Japanese are NOT origin of Archery.
Archery's origin is the Continent(asia or EU)
not japan's island.
- nazuraki, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32Kyudo uses a different arrow than European longbows. They are usually made out of bamboo, which naturally splits much easier than hard woods.
- bassibanezacura, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Yap, the mythbusters created a machine to shoot the arrow.
I thought he was the same guy from the spelling bee impersonation Napoleon Dynamite.- deserted, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3proof that in some things, a machine's precision can't match a human's intuition and skill.
- Petrarch1603, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4watch the entire video, the final shot is most unbelievable
- Jozer99, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@deserted
It doesn't really prove that. It proves that a machine created by 3 interns in several hours made out of a couple of wood beams and some scrap aluminum can't beat the best archers in the world (but is better than the average person).
You woudn't belive how precise some robots can be. If someone really wanted to spend the money and time to build an archery robot, they could do a really good job, probably within 1-2mm with no wind.
- RedRummy, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3OMG
Respect! - LiThiuMElectro, on 10/12/2007, -5/+34aim bot imo
- phlux, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2clearly stolen from the comments on the vid - still a funny ass comment though
- gumby05, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I love the sound effects.
- themulf, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Everything has video game sound effects over there, as it seems from my small experience with Asian TV.
- juneof44, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13It's the video games that have TV show sound effects.
- Volatile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Most Korean television is very...uhh...exuberent. This was a pretty serious sounding program compared to some of the other things they have over there. My mother being a Korean, she watches these shows on occasion and I've seen some pretty cool stuff, but it's rather difficult to watch sometimes because of the almost ridiculous enthusiasm Koreans have for some things.
This video was f'king incredible though.
- thunde, on 10/12/2007, -3/+33I was at the archery range once. Fired several arrows toward the target. Two of them hit the bulls-eye. Later it turned out to be someone else's arrows. But the person next to me thought I was hella good... and that's what mattered.
- OregonTrail, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1They hacked with those surveying tools...
This is simply amazing though, good for them - aussieaubs, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Ohcrap!! that is incredible
- punterfpc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Note to self: Dont ***** with Korean Archers - even though you are in America, they can still shoot an arrow into your sphincter...
- marvin69, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You would be surprised how often arrows get 'telescoped' (one arrow stuck into another). It's harder to do if the knock is still in place. They removed the knock to allow the arrow to enter the other easier.
I'd say a good telescope happens more often than a hole in one or bowling a perfect 300.- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9ya, but it probably almost always happens by accident. You tell someone to shoot through another arrow and they do it? that's sick.
- rnelsonee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You might be right - I've seen an arrow split another one, and I've been to an archery range a hell of a lot less that the number of times I've bowled and golfed, and I haven't seen a hole in one or a 300.
Pretty cool to watch, and definitely quite a skill to be able to do this on command.
- jeet404, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The arrow through the strings was insane..i couldn't hit the string.
- marvin69, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It is easier if they are using a broad-head arrow rather than a field tip.
- CRasH180, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Holy! That is a very good find! Thank you for that video.
- pencilneck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Hell, I'd be that good if I spent as much time at the archery range as I do looking at porn. Pretty cool video.
- burningmonk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11We'd all be masters of everything if we spent as much time practicing as we do looking at porn.
- phlux, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1What about the practice I get while watching porn, whats that uh... nevermind.
- aOenEz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Yay! By your logic we're masters of porn! I don't know about you guys, but I'm taking pride in this.
- thepctech, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1The Mythbusters said it could not be done, anybody have their e-mail address so they can see this and verrify it! That would be great to see them re-visit this because of this link and digg.
Brian- marvin69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The Myth Busters were trying to telescope solid wooden arrows like Robbin Hood. This video was using hollow aluminum arrows as the target with the knock removed and firing graphite arrows which are smaller in diameter.
- orph3us, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0You may laugh, but I once read that a man's productivity level in life is higher when he is single because something like his sexual energies are being focused on something else. So next time you're gonna masturbate, don't think of the kittens, concentrate on your art! err uh.... assuming that art doesn't involve sexual gratification ;)
- robotexplorer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17The mongols and Turks could do that shooting backwards riding bareback on horses.
but youTube wasn't around back then. - tetro, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3The skeptic in me makes me think that this is all a ruse. If you look at all of the shots, there is not 1 continuous shot of the arrow leaving the bow and doing all those accurate hits. They zoom in just so that you see the archer pull back and release, and as soon as the arrow leaves the frame, they magically show the arrow doing some amazing hits. Am I the only one thinking this?
- jcmead, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is completely believable I was a bow hunter for a long time and shot for fun and practice. At 30 yards I always used separate targets for each shot since arrows are not cheap ( approx. $3.00 each for good ones) and I have destroyed several. The shooting here is impressive but about fair to average for Olympic level competition.
- LabRat777, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2That was god-damn ridiculous.
- DrScript, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1wow that sweet
- carbonetc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Yeah, but can they stab one orc, and then shoot another orc with THE SAME ARROW?
- olddirtycr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Can't touch legolas (Did you know legolas was based on a real archer from the medivial 500 a.d period?)
Documentation says he shot an arrow right through a dragons heart from a mile away.- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9yes. we all know how reliable those DragonDocs are.
- spiffyfitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yes, but Legolas is fictional.
- BigBoogie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow. Hard to believe even after seeing it with my own eyes. Incredible.
- VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Amazing skill, but looking at how fancypants those bows are takes an inkling of fun out of it. They're not bows, they're crazy contraptions.
- MasterSharma, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1bah, Korean life hack! = aimbot
L33t - alf86, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There is a guy on some bow hunting show I see every now and then (I think on OLN) that does amazing trick shots with a bow and arrow. He has even shot an aspirin out of the air.
- jpyun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I think the most impressive thing is that when the fatty telescopes the arrow, in the slow-motion segment, you can see he isn't moving. AT ALL. He is literally holding the bow perfectly still.
- Joopapa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thats amazing. I haven't seen the myth busters episode. But I a believe this is totally plausable. I have even managed to fluke it in a game of darts. The best part is some one actually saw it.
- rocketryguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The bows were pretty standard competition bows. Composite, not compound, which just means that the bow leaves were fiberglass and the center frame cast aluminum (usually). Dissimilar materials= composite.
The Carbon-fibre arrows are as small as possible, with a severe overdraw rest (tip of arrow doesn't pass the front of the bow when drawn, but rests on a device set back from the frame) so it can be shorter and lighter. That plus the carbon fiber makes it as stiff as possible, so less energy is lost to the flexing upon release and more into velocity. Maximizing velocity flattens the trajectory and also minimizes wind effects, hence more accuracy and repeatability.
Compound bows also cam on the force gradually, which helps with flexing, but I've noticed that nobody uses them except for hunting these days. Probably a repeatability issue, or maybe it's not all that helpful at the poundage that the target guys use. It also adds weight to the bow, so perhaps that's an issue too. My compound/composite bow sure ain't light, but I got it years ago. If I had to do it all over, I'd get a rig like these guys had, since I only do target.
All that said, those guys were damn good. Great technique, although I don't think it was particularly Korean. Or perhaps folks stateside got the techniques from Asian archery, wouldn't surprise me at all. - spiffyfitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love how they included a clip from Kevin Costner's awful Robinhood movie. "This is English courage!!" Oh the laughs...
Also, this is proof that archery is way more badass than handguns.- UrlorJkron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"People don't throw things at me any more. Maybe because I carry a bow around."
- moomoobar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0When an arrow leaves a bow the back of the arrow is accelerated from the knock first. The acceleration is then transferred up the shaft towards the tip. This transfer of energy from the back, forwards causes a compression in the shaft. The result is that the arrow actually "kicks" out of the bow and doesn't travel in a straight line. Its axis of travel is straight, but the arrow "wobbles" in flight. This effect can be observed in some of the slow motion shots of the arrow leaving a bow.
It is this wobble that makes it hard for me to believe this stunt possible. Although I can see how the hollow knock-less "target" arrow might increase the likelihood. The hollow arrow will help capture the incoming arrow tip, and then gather-in and dampen the wobbling vibration of the arrow.- chodaboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"It is this wobble that makes it hard for me to believe this stunt possible. Although I can see how the hollow knock-less "target" arrow might increase the likelihood. The hollow arrow will help capture the incoming arrow tip, and then gather-in and dampen the wobbling vibration of the arrow."
Actually it was this wobble that made the Robin Hood, splitting a wooden arrow scenario busted in Mythbusters. They finally did end up doing a 'movie staged' arrow splitting by using bamboo for the target arrow shafts, but even then they had to remove the antler bone nocks that were being used in the target arrows, because the nocks would prevent the target arrow from splitting.
- chodaboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"It is this wobble that makes it hard for me to believe this stunt possible. Although I can see how the hollow knock-less "target" arrow might increase the likelihood. The hollow arrow will help capture the incoming arrow tip, and then gather-in and dampen the wobbling vibration of the arrow."
- robertc1964, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That's some pretty fine shootin' there, Tex.
- yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That's why Korean archers win medals in Olympics.
- mbolgian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Split the string shot, take 104!!"
Ah the wonders of being able to do as many takes as you need... - pgdn963, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0to nazuraki
This Art is NOT Kyudo.
This is Korean Archery They called "Yang Kung" or Yang Goong.
and archery is NOT Japanese arts.
on the contrary. all of which are Japanese Arts branches of traditional Yang Goong forms.
and historically, Japanese are NOT origin of Archery.
Archery's origin is the Continent(asia or EU)
not japan's island. - archer823, on 02/07/2008, -0/+1It's really impressive, and it takes a good amount of skill especially to do it on one take, but to recreate this stunt, take an Easton 2613 X7 (which is a really thick aluminum arrow), and shoot a very small diameter arrow like an X10. The arrow is significantly thinner than the 2613.
There's a reason why in every Olympic game since 1988, the Koreans have dominated archery though. This is just another reason why.
Yes they're not your stick and string bow y'all might be familiar with, the high tech materials these bows and arrows are made out of are truly amazing and costly (the average rig at the Olympic games easily runs 2 - 3 grand per setup), but in the end, it still takes an extremely skilled archer to recreate that shot.
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