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- RyeBrye, on 07/18/2008, -10/+270No way, CHINA did this? Next thing you know, they'll be violating basic human rights of their citizens.
- Carbonlord, on 07/18/2008, -11/+233Imagine at one of the demonstrations of world peace, they are banning flags!
- hughesj919, on 07/18/2008, -18/+199(Can't believe China got to host the Olympics)
- inactive, on 07/18/2008, -11/+184The olympic committee says the Olympics isn't political and is only sports focused.. yet both the Tibetan and Taiwanese flag is banned.
- malcolmlo, on 07/18/2008, -11/+85Tree Fibet
I mean...DAMNIT, i messed that one up. - inactive, on 07/18/2008, -22/+75In other news: Olympics banned at my house.
Suck it China. - josephbloseph, on 07/18/2008, -4/+53Getting shot in the face by Mr. Cheney, however, is a different matter entirely
- aaronadms, on 07/18/2008, -1/+45Somebody already tried walking up to Cheney and doing that:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/04/washington/04che ...
(He got arrested)
You may be thinking of a different America. - IveGotTheRuns, on 07/18/2008, -9/+47Don't worry, the UN will sort out this whole China/Tibet thing.
/sarcasm - lybrel, on 07/18/2008, -10/+42^^Hetman's right.
Confederate flags were banned at Salt Lake Winter Olympics. The analogy with Tibet is even stronger, since Tibet has been a part of China since Kublai Khan invaded it on behalf of China.
There is nothing surprising here. - PresidentSoup, on 07/18/2008, -5/+30Everyone seems to be jumping to the conclusion that this was a decision made by China. It doesn't actually say in the article who made this new rule up, it just says "organizers".
If by "organizers" they mean the Olympic Council, then the purpose was most likely to keep the games peaceful without any interruption by protesters. If they meant China, then it's a different story. - TomFrost, on 07/18/2008, -5/+28The confederate flag does not represent a nation. In fact, it represents the antithesis of peace in a nation.
The United States has one flag. That's why they call us United. - PresidentSoup, on 07/18/2008, -2/+23You would be very surprised. I dare you to try this and think you wouldn't end up on the terrorist watch list. I agree you SHOULD and are SUPPOSED to be able to do this, but sadly it doesn't seem that is the case.
- DyceFreak, on 07/18/2008, -2/+23I would love to help, but im currently being oppressed in another country I dare not name :P
- Hetman, on 07/18/2008, -8/+27China has one flag. The tibetan flag like the Confederate flag represents a divide in the nation. They both also represent an act of civil war. Asking China to free Tibet is like asking America to free the south. It would require a civil war for it to happen. I agree China needs to work on its human rights issuie. But those are far greater than them banning a flag during the olympics.
- thtjebus, on 07/18/2008, -6/+24we don't have to imagine they did it!
just another proof that the Chinese government is oppressing their people...
when is the rest of the world gna grow a pair and make it stop! - xster, on 07/18/2008, -5/+23"A former British colony now ruled by China, Hong Kong....."
I love the spin they put into this objective article from the free press. How belligerent of China. Try a former Chinese city militarily invaded by western powers through the opium war due to unfavorable trading on their part and to collectively cut down China from its prominence in the world stage. The same powers who give dalai lama nobel prizes and funds to support armed rebellion due to unfavorable trading on their part and to collectively cut down China from its prominence in the world stage.... ummmm deja vu? - Shaman760, on 07/18/2008, -9/+27Yet thousands of people are still going and are supporting the olympics in China. Apathy is why.
- speedk0re, on 07/18/2008, -4/+21this sounds like a job for... THE BEASTIE BOYS!
(the +/- tally on this comment will be an interesting judge of how goddamn old i am) - JasonCox, on 07/18/2008, -4/+17The Chinese have good reason for doing this; I mean when was the last time you saw the Confederate flag flown at an Olympic event?
- Chronoped, on 07/18/2008, -3/+15Taliban ≠ Tibetans
***** comparison. - whorunbartertwn, on 07/18/2008, -1/+13>Tibet WAS an INDEPENDENT nation at one point, before CHINA came and took over.<
It's not so black and white. Looking farther back, Tibet was part of China in the early 1700s after . One can go back through history and see a back-and-forth over what belongs to who (same with Mongolia) so it's not as easy as saying Tibet was a nation as one point. - baldr, on 07/18/2008, -1/+13(I believe in Harvey Dent)
- MacGyver2210, on 07/18/2008, -7/+18I don't know why the Olympics are even in China. It's a bad idea all around. Since when is it a good idea to have people from every country all over the world descend on a Xenophobic dictatorship?
- Mavital, on 07/18/2008, -1/+12Sigh. Read the article people.
"The crackdown guidelines apply to flags representing countries and regions without athletes in the events. Demonstrations, as well as any "propaganda" appearing on banners, clothing or other accessories, won't be allowed either."
This could apply to a number of other counrties as well. Yes, I'm sure the underlying reason is for China to keep the protests down, but I personally would prefer to keep the Olympics as a competition among the best in the world -- NOT a venue for political protests and what not. What if you trained many years for the Olympics, only to enter a city filled with political protest and most certainly violence (as far as China is concerned). - aresef, on 07/18/2008, -2/+13Also, our civil war happened almost 150 years ago. Tibet lost its independence 50 years ago, so the wound is more recent. And unlike the south, Tibet isn't founded on the basis of human slavery, so...
- dexter411, on 07/18/2008, -0/+11The Olympic Committee tried banning the Confederate flag during the 1996 Atlanta Summer Olympics. This was interesting at the time because Georgia adopted the Confederate flag as their official state flag in the 50s and so it was required to fly in state-owned venues.
- WiretapStudios, on 07/18/2008, -1/+11Only at the Special Olympics.
- wonderchemist, on 07/18/2008, -1/+11The US doesn't officially recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation. If the most powerful nation on Earth doesn't, why should a China?
- TsuruchiBrian, on 07/18/2008, -1/+10It can be good. in 1936, we had a black athlete win 4 of the most important track and field medals in Nazi Germany in front of a visibly pissed off Hitler.
I didn't stop WW2 or anything, but it was truly one of the great moments in history.
Who knows what kind of gigantic "***** You" some courageous person could give the Chinese government in front of a world audience. This could be another one of those great moments. - alex7575, on 07/18/2008, -2/+11Tibet and Taiwan, used to be independent states (countries) at one point. The Confederacy... Didn't you learn this ***** in middle school???
- bphicke, on 07/18/2008, -0/+9http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwNiVZWuQpE
Yes, you can tell Dick "go ***** yourself" and walk away free. - rz8472, on 07/18/2008, -1/+10I agree. Fibet really hasn't been taking care of its environment; we need to green it up.
- Hetman, on 07/18/2008, -3/+12Nope we just annexed an entire country and committed Genocide on its native people. But it happened over 200 years ago so you are saying that makes it right?
- forcedfx, on 07/18/2008, -1/+10(I want to believe, Scully.)
- inactive, on 07/18/2008, -3/+12Then the confederacy WAS an INDEPENDENT nation at one point, for FIVE years in fact, until they lost the war.
Tibet was part of China to begin with, then separated from China at a time when China itself was under invasion from Japan. Tibet gained independence for 37 years, then became part of china again when Japan was defeated and China stabilized. - inactive, on 07/18/2008, -2/+10They actually banned all flags, banners, posters, and displays of national pride, of any kind, aside from wearing a t-shirt.
I'm willing to bet, that if you wore a t-shirt that provoked the government, they'll make you disappear and sell your organs, so probably better not to show your colors at these games. - nishay, on 07/18/2008, -0/+8I'll take it!
Hello, China? I got something you want, but its going to cost you... - TsuruchiBrian, on 07/18/2008, -4/+12Despite the current animosity towards the Taliban, this is the United States, and the First amendment clearly establishes the right for people to express themselves with any flag they want.
I think a Taliban flag might be tolerated if it were displayed in an appropriately designated "Free Speech Zone". // sarcasm
But seriously it's not that what China is doing is OK because we do it here. We have lowered ourselves to China's level (or very near to it). Maybe we don't torture or illegal imprison quite so many people as they do, but now rather than being able to say "The things that are done by the Chinese government are unacceptable to a free society like the US", we can only say "China is still a little worse than us".
I don't think I would want to be friends with someone who displayed a Taliban flag, but I think protecting the right of people to do it is one of the most American things there is. - newties21, on 07/18/2008, -0/+8I am amazed so many people here are making an issue at something that is so obvious and reasonable.
The rules not to display any propaganda, or any political, religious, or racial campaign is actually enshrined in the Olympic Charter.
So many people blasting and blaming 'communists' , 'dictator regime' etc without bothering to check what the Olympic Charter is. This rule was actually in place and made way back by the International Olympic Committee, not by 'communist regime'. Some athletes made Black Power salute in the 1968 Olympics medal presentation and it was deemed unacceptable.
Maybe you need to think about that, what is the purpose of Olympics after all, and whether u want to see Olympics to be the venue for all these contentious debates. The world community has decided long time ago that the answer is no.
The same rules have been in effect in the past Olympics, Athens, Sydney, etc, and will be in place again in London 2012. - MoralThreat, on 07/18/2008, -17/+25Gee the Olympics aren't political. Noooooooooooooooooo.
***** them, I know it doesn't matter much but I'm not watching the Olympics this year. Hopefully others will do the same. - Backstab, on 07/18/2008, -0/+8Tibet isn't a country. China owns them.
- jbmcb, on 07/18/2008, -1/+9The Taliban is a religious/political party, not a country, and as such probably wouldn't have a Olympic delegation. Not one that the IOC would recognize, at least.
Israel used to have a ban on the Palestinian flag, but they have since relaxed the restriction. If Palestine had Olympic athletes at an Israeli Olympics, I'd imagine they'd get to fly their flag.
Any other straw men you'd like to set up? - mcdougan, on 07/18/2008, -5/+12im pretty sure you are wrong it represented the Confederate State of America, believe me I live in the south and they have civil war re-enactments every single weekend.. of course the south always wins though so it might be a little bias
- inactive, on 07/18/2008, -4/+11So what? Would you americans allow the Confederate flag to be flown at the Olympics?
- inactive, on 07/18/2008, -4/+11If America remotely stood for it's supposed ideals, it would boycott the Olympics and impose trade sanctions against China over what they did in Tibet. Truth is our Government owes them too much money to stand up for what's right! This is just another example of one bad regime executing it's own agenda lying in bed with another.
- kurtwinter, on 07/18/2008, -2/+9Why doesn't the IOC put the games in the Sudan next, and try to say "nothing political here".
- shufan, on 07/18/2008, -3/+10Sure, it sounds like a crazy act of discrimination, but I think it's necessary for the Olympics. Athletes who have worked hard to show what they can do should be the focus of the Olympics, not a misunderstood conflict that is and will be continuously plugged by the media and take away from the real focus of the Olympics.
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