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Here We Go: Britons Arrested in Beijing for Tibet Protests

guardian.co.uk — Four protesters including two Britons were arrested in Beijing this morning after attempting to hang a "Free Tibet" banner from a bridge near the Birds Nest stadium.

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  • AEastep, on 08/06/2008, -6/+81I see a lot more of this happening the closer we get to the Olympics.
    • tas08, on 08/07/2008, -13/+3A lot of stupid people will be going to jail sadly.
      • FeloniusMonkey, on 08/07/2008, -0/+7Of course... no one ever goes to jail happily.
    • norman619, on 08/07/2008, -7/+18I don't get why they do this. It accomplishes nothing. It's about as effective as online petitions.
      • ZeeZee2k, on 08/07/2008, -11/+4Exactly, it will only promote more hate between the Chinese people and the Western world.
      • norman619, on 08/07/2008, -4/+15ZeeZee2k:

        It's the Chinese gov that gets upset not the people of China.
      • meburnette, on 08/07/2008, -5/+13Yeah, god damn people using the world wide media coverage of China and the Olympics to exercise the universal right of free speech in order to expose the murderous actions of a totalitarian regime.

        Stupid idiots. They must totally deserve to go to jail.

        ***** China.
      • ZeeZee2k, on 08/07/2008, -5/+2norman619
        Trust me, it's not just the governnent.
      • ixid, on 08/07/2008, -3/+4What right do the Chinese have to hate us for pointing out their invasion and occupation of Tibet? It's not China, don't pretend it's a private, internal issue that nosy foreigners should keep out of. Avoid pithy retorts about Iraq, I certainly do not support that.
      • MrWhite7, on 08/07/2008, -1/+5Who says they hate you? There laws are different than ours... you break them, you go to camp.
      • boester, on 08/07/2008, -2/+2"Promote more hate between the Chinese people and the Western world" is exactly what the protestors are aiming for.
      • LocalDocal, on 08/07/2008, -1/+7@Norman
        By doing stunts like this, especially during the Olympics, what they're accomplishing is getting media attention to an issue that the media rarely seems to care about The more media attention the issue gets, the more political pressure will arise.

        Additionally, these guys are just protesters. If they don't put pressure on China this way, then how else are they supposed to go it? Through their political connections in the EU?
      • Wrangler76, on 08/07/2008, -6/+6Ixid: Chinese are getting annoyed because these particular dumbass foreigners know NOTHING about Tibetan/Chinese history, how Tibetans really feel, or anything resembling facts about China, yet they protest more about China than most other issues in the world. Why do they do this? Maybe because they would have their arms ***** chopped off in Zimbabwe, maybe because newspapers/TV stations are doing sensationalist reporting non-stop on negative issues in China, or maybe because China is a growing power that looks different and people are acting out their fears in subtle ways. Take your pick. All are ridiculous reasons and the Chinese know this.

        If these protestors would go to the Chinese websites detailing CNN bias and outright lies, they might be hated less by the Chinese. If they read James Miles' (The Economist magazine) unbiased reports from Lhasa about how peacefully the police dealt with the situation, the Tibetans' reasons for rioting, and the violence they committed, rather than watching MSM that completely ignores all those issues, the Chinese might not so be annoyed. If they read up on the Dalai Lama's funding from the CIA, the CIA's involvement in the violent Tibetan uprising in 1959, or Tibet's dark feudal past, the Chinese might not be so pissed at these idiotic, ignorant protestors.

        So, in summary, if the ignorant masses would do some research on what they're protesting about instead of spouting random crap without any backup proof, the Chinese would not be so annoyed. I don't even mean look at Chinese state media or Chinese websites, but even some "Western" media has reported neutrally on the issues, but they're often less popular (of course). Also, don't climb poles and protesting without permits and expect to be welcomed at the Olympics.
      • PoleCatz, on 08/07/2008, -6/+1If it gives hope to one Tibetan political prisoner tonight then it's worth it. I know you're a fat American in a bean bag chair, but how about I kidnap you and shove a Chinese cattle prod up your ass and see if you'd appreciate someone speaking up on your behalf?
      • DatruKatalyst, on 08/07/2008, -1/+4PoleCatz,

        do you live in Tibet? Have you ever gone??

        We're all listening to heresay and taking actions based on it. The very definition of a personified sheep.
      • ronaldinho, on 08/07/2008, -0/+3I don't know whether it's ineffective. At least if whoever was reading the news got curious, they will try to investigate just what got those people arrested. Then they will know about issues like Tibet and Darfur. Besides, China made it clear that demonstrating for political purposes is illegal. You are breaking the law in that country; of course you will get arrested!

        Although honestly, is it rational for China to bypass the oil in Sudan as well as its arms sale? As much as I say that China should tell Sudan to ***** themselves until they fix their civil war, the truth is that China stands to gain nothing from it. Yes we live in a loveless world, but that's just simple politics. Why wouldn't China step in when the Burmese government started shooting down monks? Same reason.
      • ixid, on 08/07/2008, -1/+0Wrangler76: "how Tibetans really feel, or anything resembling facts about China, yet they protest more about China than most other issues in the world."

        How the Tibetans feel is that they want your people the ***** out of their country. It's not hard to understand. People don't ignore other issues, don't try that pathetic tactic to behave as if Tibet's not an issue. How peacefully people are dealt with? And the murdered priests? Those shot trying to leave Tibet? You're so wrapped up in your nation's nationalism it's both sad and scary. And to preempt your flailing retorts, no, I am not an American.
      • norman619, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0LocalDocal:

        Sorry but the world is already quite aware of this. Unfortunately the world has no say in how China's government runs things. They have made it pretty clear they don't give a *****. Just like how the we here in the US don't give a ***** when the UN, world court, or other countries do not agree with how we punish people who commit capital offenses. So in the end it does nothing. The people in China are the only ones who can change things. Hasn't history taught you anything?
      • norman619, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0meburnette :

        "Yeah, god damn people using the world wide media coverage of China and the Olympics to exercise the universal right of free speech in order to expose the murderous actions of a totalitarian regime.

        Stupid idiots. They must totally deserve to go to jail"

        Your naivete is amazing. You do know what flies in your country does not always fly in others right? Other countries have the right to do things their own way and outlaw what they like. We may not agree with what they choose to do but we have no right to try and force our moral views upon them. how would you like China, Russia, and Cuba to try and force their style of government on yours? You'd have a bitch fit. While you are free to speak your mind outside their country that all changes when you are INSIDE their borders. You either obey the laws or break them and be prepared to suffer the consequences of doing so. Your big mouth is not going to change anything inside China. what will change China is the the people of China. Try to remember China is a sovereign nation just like yours.
      • Wrangler76, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Ixid: how about you provide some sources? YOU are the one who is so amazingly blind that it's astounding. The underlying reasons that are cited for the Tibet riots is because of the current socioeconomic inequality in the area (a la LA riots).

        I did NOT say that Tibet is not an issue. How about you learn to read before embarrassing yourself? What I said is that people DO ignore the issues of Tibetans burning down Chinese businesses and stoning even children during the riots. All this has been reported by James Miles from The Economist, which is much more reliable than crap-drains like MSM, which is incidently where everyone gets their news from. He was one of the few sources there, yet the media outlets carefully picked excerpts of his reports to create a biased view of the situation. All everyone heard about was "crackdown this, crackdown that".

        And what murdered priests? The ones that there were RUMOURS spread around of? Yes, the riots were PEACEFULLY dealt with. The Chinese people in fact complained of how slowly the government reacted and the relaxed manner they were dealing with it just to save face in front of the international community instead of shooting the hell up out of everybody. Only 1-2 confirmed foreign reporters were in Lhasa at the time, yet the Chinese government still didn't perform a so called "crackdown" to end it quickly.

        The Dalai Lama said he does NOT want independence. He wanted autonomy. Google it. The underlying reasons for the riots were socioeconomic, NOT for independence as MSM has so misleadingly reported. Google it. All the brainwashed Tibetans that didn't like the situation had already left Tibet decades ago.

        I see from your other comments that you are just a troll who doesn't use logic or facts, but rather conjecture that your fellow simple-minded morons will gladly digg you up for.
    • theskillwithin, on 08/07/2008, -10/+7A lot of hero's will be going to jail sadly.
      • norman619, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0Your naivete is incredibly cute. It reminds me of my 2 year old daughter's. Heroes? LOL!!! What did they do that was so heroic?
    • whorunbartertwn, on 08/07/2008, -3/+16That's crazy! If people climbed a light pole in America, Canada, or UK to hang a banner on public property they'd never get arrested. Oh, wait...
    • LeeSoong, on 08/07/2008, -8/+5Good.

      People are paying big money to go and enjoy the Olympics,
      not be subjected to other's political agenda.

      Leave the athletes alone and take your protests elsewhere.

      I foresee protesters disrupting a competition - and facing serious jail time for messing up some event, maybe even requiring the athletes to perform a 'do-over'.

      Let the games play on...

      • WestEast, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0The IOC made this entire thing political when they based their choice to host it in Bejing on politics, the whole thing is a disgrace and I hope it embarresses the hell out of China.
    • Xeth, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Am I the only one who noticed that the article said they DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET ARRESTED?
      • Pittance, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0Yep. But they aren't with the police or in jail. But no one can contact them and the british consulate is demanding to speak with them. Who thinks they are being "interviewed" somewhere?
    • Yulo, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0As we get closer to the Olympics? It starts tomorrow.
  • jmpeagle, on 08/06/2008, -25/+11well considering that's illegal in that country, I don't see why this is news. They are already pretty good at ignoring the thousands of protests every year in their country that have the people's backing, so I doubt they are going to care about a protest for something 90% of Han Chinese are against and so are many Tibetans including the Dalai Lama.
    • daviejer, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0The invasion of Tibet began in 1949. Chinese occupation has resulted in the death of over one million Tibetans, the destruction of over 6,000 monasteries, nunneries and temples, and the imprisonment and torture of thousands of Tibetans.

      Basic freedoms of speech, religion, and assembly are strictly limited, and arrests continue. There are currently hundreds of political prisoners in Tibet, enduring punishment and torture.

      That's why this is news; to highlight the plight to a wider audience.
  • bosssmiley, on 08/06/2008, -15/+93"Beijing 2008: Bring your TV cameras and your money; but leave your weird ideas about human rights, freedom of speech and Wilsonian self-determination at home."

    ***** flower arrangements in Tienanmen Square says it all.
    • urothane, on 08/06/2008, -1/+36Don't forget to leave those with "mental illness" and STDs at home as well.
    • scottsutherland, on 08/07/2008, -1/+15Hopefully the Olympian spotlight cast on Beijing will illuminate some atrocities for the world to see with their own eyes.
      • LeeSoong, on 08/07/2008, -8/+2Like the 16 policemen in Kashgar, Xinjiang Uygur killed by Islamic extremists ?

        http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-08/06/cont ...

        China is working very hard to prevent terrorists from killing all the ripe foreign visitors who make easy targets for kidnapping and execution.

        Radicals bent on murder and terror threaten all of China, its guests and visitors.

        The USA is working hard to neutralize these criminals world wide, but China will have to defend their own soil from the deadly plans of evil doers.
      • sanman, on 08/07/2008, -1/+8LeeSoong, China is the prime backer of Pakistan, which sponsored Islamist militancy in Afghanistan and CentralAsia. Many like to blame the USA/CIA for their role in supporting Islamic miltancy during the Afghan War against the Soviets, but the reality is that China was a key partner in providing cheap arms to the Islamist militants, because China was very hostile to the Soviets too at that point.

        So my point is that you are only reaping what you've sown. You Chinese helped to cause this Islamist militancy problem, even though no Chinese are allowed to admit this fact or discuss it.
      • zenmechanic, on 08/07/2008, -1/+4@ LeeSoong

        Terrorist or Freedom Fighter? Please stop watching television. "Evil doers"??? Cmon, new-speak is easy enough to recognize. They have a tight grip on you I am afraid.

        If your oppressors mandated and forced their beliefs on you and it conflicted to your very core of what you believe is right and just, would you take it up the ass? or take matters into your own hands.

        Signed,
        The Good Citizen.
      • LeeSoong, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1Evil Doers Hate Our Freedom (tm).

        I thought the popularity of Chinese AK-47s and related weapons was directly related to their great discount prices?

        Buy 4 crates of weapons, get the 5th crate free!
    • k4rm4, on 08/07/2008, -21/+22Atrocities? LOL

      America is just as bad as China if not worse.

      And it is not British people's place to go break laws in China because they disagree with their foreign policy.

      Let the Chinese work out their own problems, the more America and the international world gets involved the worse off we'll be in the future.

      Grow up children.
      • Genrre, on 08/07/2008, -5/+14Wow. Take off the tinfoil. Do you know anything about the PRC and CCP?
      • Kanten, on 08/07/2008, -5/+14Because I remember that time when the American military ran tanks on a peaceful protest.

        Oh wait...
      • nmnnotmyname, on 08/07/2008, -2/+5Yeah, but China tries to act like they're perfect.
      • Nodnarbs, on 08/07/2008, -1/+6Thing is, nobody gets arrested in America for telling the truth of what happened. Yeah lots of countries have done lots of dumb things and they've only changed when people had the guts to speak the truth and break the laws.
      • LeeSoong, on 08/07/2008, -1/+11@Kanten - you mean the time when U.S. troops shot dead Ohio university students protesting the U.S. military action in Cambodia?

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

        Ya, that was one little 'oops' on the history books.
      • hambend, on 08/07/2008, -1/+7@Kanten

        Yeah, I remember Waco too.
      • NuclearIsShit, on 08/07/2008, -1/+5Both countries have poor track records, and that is why most people are trying to encourage their own governments and others around the world to improve. That is the duty of the people.
      • Hangly, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2I remember this time when the US government destroyed two skyscrapers full of people and used it to start a war where it killed a million more people.

        If we're measuring evil by body count, the US is about a thousand times worse than China.
      • ChildeRoland420, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Hangly, you're a ***** idiot.

        1. Noone can prove that the US gov't had anything to do with 9/11, because they didn't.
        2. Read about the purges that the Chinese gov't has enacted against its population. If you really want to do a body count, those millions will easily top the 3000 killed on that day (and the few from Waco, Kent State, etc.)
      • DesignNerd, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I have a point to prove, but my sandwich is all the way across the room!


        WAAAHHHH!
    • whorunbartertwn, on 08/07/2008, -6/+4Next thing you know they'll arrest any old shmoe who tries climbing the NY Times Building, further demonstrating crushing of human freedoms.
    • ShadowofAres, on 08/07/2008, -5/+5People don't seem to realize that the would-be Tibetan government would be no better than the Chinese government.
      • PoleCatz, on 08/07/2008, -2/+0PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IT BECAUSE IT'S A LIE

        STOP THE CHINESE PROPAGANDA - HOW MUCH ARE YOU BEING PAID?
      • bosssmiley, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1People are still willing to choose theocratic feudalism over the CCP. What does that say about the CCP?
      • ShadowofAres, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1bosssmiley- point taken.
      • Ravatar, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1@PoleCatz: why so serious?
    • LeeSoong, on 08/07/2008, -4/+2They are lucky the security teams did not I.D. the climbers as snipers - and take them down the Hard Way.


  • raada, on 08/06/2008, -17/+69This kind of protests are useless in China, because the smog and pollution is so bad no one can see them anyway.

    I also heard they are about to cancel all sports that involve any distance longer that 30m or 100 feet, since there is no way to check who threw the javelin or who started in the 100m race.
    • chenyu768, on 08/07/2008, -2/+17I don't understand this, the air in Fresno,CA and most of the central valley is hazardous to breathe over half the year. ***** we can't even go out to P.E. in high school on half the days. L.A. looks the same and so does most of the East bay. I'm not sure about the East coast but I'm sure it's similar.

      Beijing has 10's of millions of people and it's located in a basin surrounded by mountains, the smog from stays in the valley due to an inversion layer, same thing with the central valley.

      I mean how bad is the air? Yeah its smoggy but what's the bench mark? what cities are we comparing it to? L.A, N.Y.? or are we comparing it to Aspen?

      I understand that there are things to do to make it better, but no one is giving China any credit for the steps they are taking. They have implemented that odd numbered license plates can only drive on odd days and same for the even numbers, I don't see America doing that anytime soon. And cloud seeding, when did it become such a controversy, don't farmer in America do that? I mean it's ok for crops but not to clean the air for tens of millions of people? I see a lot of hypocrisy here.
      • btschul, on 08/07/2008, -0/+7We're fine out here in the middle of the East Coast.
      • JustinNoland, on 08/07/2008, -4/+3That's because the second the Olympics are over, all of the pollution regulations will be lifted.
      • chenyu768, on 08/07/2008, -0/+4kind of like all the EPA's rule we've had here that were overturned in the past 8 years? Maybe we need an olympics.
      • kevinwiz, on 08/07/2008, -3/+7"I don't see America doing that anytime soon."
        Because we are not communist.
        "Yeah its smoggy but what's the bench mark? what cities are we comparing it to?"
        Consider this: Just last week, Hong Kong had the smoggiest day EVER in Chinese history.
      • chenyu768, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2i don't understand the connection to communism? Is it because they only allow certain cars to drive into the city on certain days? Are you referring to a restriction of personal rights? Well don't us here in Cali and parts of Nevada do the same thing in a drought? where you can only water your lawn depending upon your street address.
        I'm sick of every time China does something and people yell communist, ***** Chinese people eat rice, is eating rice communist?
        Why is there a need in America to always have an enemy to hate?
      • aigulf, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Based on world bank statistics for 2004...Beijing has 89ug (that's micro-grams) of particulate matter per cubic meter. China's worst city was Tianjin, with 125ug/m^3.

        In comparison, New York had 21ug/m^3. Less than 1/4 the pollution of Beijing.

        The world's worst city in 2004 was Cairo, Egypt with 169ug/m^3.

        Source: http://siteresources.worldbank.org/DATASTATISTICS/ ... (pdf warning!)
        via: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_pollution
      • chenyu768, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1What's LA and Fresno, which is worst that LA?
      • aigulf, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0The study I cited had L.A. at 34ug/m^3, a little more than NY but still about 1/3 of Beijing. It only listed NY/Newark, LA, and Chicago, so there's no data for Fresno. I'm guessing those were the three worst cities in the U.S., that's the only reason I can think of for including them and no other in the report. Maybe someone else can dig and find data comparing other U.S. cities.
      • gobbstopp, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0i really don't think NY is so bad.. it might cause a lot of pollution but it doesn't hang around - our neighbors downwind deal with the consequences :)
      • chenyu768, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1I know that Fresno has the worst air in the nation becaue i used to live there and they told us due to the fact that we are in a valley and also all the smog from the Bay area and LA and San Diego gets blown into the valley and it settles in the inversion layer. I think last year was like 190 days out of the year it was unsafe to be outside.
        And they have Mexico City at 57, isn't Mexico City the worst in air pollution for like the past 10 years straight?
        Oh also can anyone find a list of the worst air pollution? I found one for the dirtiest cities but i don't think that's the same thing
    • Niallgriff, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1I Dunno, I went to Beijing in 2001, and the air was no worse than NYC; I don't see how it could have changed that much in only 7 years.
      • chenyu768, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1I just got back in July, it didn't seem any worst than the Bay Area or Fresno.
        They have done a lot recently, for example cars over 1.8L have to pay an extra tax, all trains in and out of Beijing are all electric, and Semis aren't allowed in the city pass the 3rd ring.

        I understand that the air quality is a problem, but it's not like its a problem that we haven't all faced. People should give China more credit for at trying to clean up, it's not like there is a magic wand that you could just wave to make the smog disappear.

        I'm just scared that all of these criticism of China is going to hurt relations between the two countries. we don't need another war, cold or hot.
  • peteryan, on 08/06/2008, -28/+6This is one good example of westerners being ignorance....we will see more. :)
    • neognostic, on 08/06/2008, -6/+13And you are an example of a Chinese troll who doesn't know how to use English properly.
      • CryRightardCry, on 08/06/2008, -6/+18I bet his english is better than your chinese.
      • djoobacca, on 08/07/2008, -7/+2neognostic just got owned! haha
      • scy1192, on 08/07/2008, -4/+5I love how your only argument is his grammar.
      • ixid, on 08/07/2008, -2/+4Well his nationalistic stupidity is hardly worth pointing out so the grammar is more fun.

        So peteryan why is it ignorance to disagree with your nation's invasion of Tibet?
    • ordig, on 08/06/2008, -2/+4Ignorance? Then maybe they should be educated:

      http://digg.com/world_news/Undercover_in_Tibet_3
  • dtelepathy, on 08/06/2008, -8/+21Maybe China should take the theme of the Olympics more seriously. "One World, One Dream." Should Tibet not be included in this one world, one dream?
    • KingHarvest00, on 08/07/2008, -2/+23yes but it should be under chinese control like the rest of the world
    • k4rm4, on 08/07/2008, -7/+10AWwwwwww how cute
      grow up this is the real world.
    • mastersquirrel3, on 08/07/2008, -7/+2Yep and the first step is making it a state of China. Tibet is better off being part of the last super power on the planet than some pawn for western capitalism.
      • ordig, on 08/07/2008, -1/+11Unless Ethnic Tibetans are systematically terrorized by that superpower..
    • nmnnotmyname, on 08/07/2008, -1/+3World peace?..
      Which of us is going to explain this one to them?
  • baudbwoy, on 08/06/2008, -18/+13these dudes are brave...now horribly tortured and kill...but brave all the same
    • tas08, on 08/07/2008, -4/+8IMO more like dumb. They didn't do much of anything for their cause except keep them out of it while in jail. Getting those signs hung up for what, an hour?, in China isn't gonna do much. What, like the Chinese government is going to be like "*****, we didn't know you guys wanted a free Tibet! You should have brought this to our attention here in China long ago!" It's totalitarianism, the voice(s) of people there make(s) no difference, only pressure from other governments.
      • k4rm4, on 08/07/2008, -6/+8Poster above me sums it up, dudes an idiot and its an insult to the Chinese people who are more than capable of overthrowing their government. If they want change let them do it, get out of their politics you snobby British man, is what I would have said to that climber.
      • tas08, on 08/07/2008, -5/+1lol
        I'm dugg down, yet the guy who replies to me beginning with how he agrees with me is dugg up... wtf?
      • TrevorBelmont, on 08/07/2008, -2/+4... and now Britons are in jail for political crimes in the name of human rights. This will cause a small media ***** storm throughout the English speaking world. This is the most effective protest for Tibet I've ever seen.
      • DarkLaughingMan, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1hmm more like they'd be in jail for breaking the law. If they even went to jail. If you tried the same crap in America or any other country, would you be arguing the same thing? Go ahead and try, go to a foreign country, climb up on something that's likely owned by said government and see what happens when the police comes.
    • alclone, on 08/07/2008, -12/+4these dudes are complete fags

      they need to read up on some history
    • DarkLaughingMan, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0comment deleted
  • britoca, on 08/06/2008, -9/+10this is going to be a very *special* olymp... errr, Sporting Event. (I wouldn't dare calling this CCP propaganda event an Olympiad)

    I can't wait to see the foreigners protesting, haha, it'll be great. Here comes international political fiasco!
  • LordVomit, on 08/06/2008, -16/+60Those ***** idiots should have realized this would happen when they start protesting where they know they aren't welcome.

    No grief for them.
    • JCPahl, on 08/07/2008, -22/+17Yeah, because protests against oppression should only be conducted in ways the State deems permissible. Funny that you should call them idiots; it's their kind of courage you should thank for any undeserved liberty you have today, fool.
      • tas08, on 08/07/2008, -6/+10Protests in a totalitarian state are useless. The government is under no obligation or inclination to listen to the people when it has complete power. So yes, they were stupid, a protest like that serves no purpose.
      • Telmarine, on 08/07/2008, -4/+5***** off, hes not a hippie, he just thinks that LordVomit does not deserve his freedom and liberty, nor do you, my retarded friend
      • k4rm4, on 08/07/2008, -6/+12It's not some british man's job to protest the policy of a government that is outnumbered more than a million to one by it's people.

        If they want change they could have it, apparently it's not that important to them that they are willing to mass protest themselves, or even revolt.

        Grow up and get out of other people's affairs Britain, I would have expected this kind of arrogance from an American.
      • issachar, on 08/07/2008, -2/+4you seriously think that they DIDN'T know they'd be arrested? That would be the point. Do so free speaking and then get arrested. Thus demonstrating yet again that free speech doesn't exist in China. I think they'd call this mission accomplished.

        China has a nice culture, but it has an evil government. We lack the power to change it, but we shouldn't forget about it either.
      • ixid, on 08/07/2008, -1/+4"f they want change they could have it, apparently it's not that important to them that they are willing to mass protest themselves, or even revolt."

        I guess they have some reservations about being driven over by tanks. So are you morons some kind of special Chinese propaganda attack on the internet or are you independently that stupid? It's interesting how you seem to back one another up in the threads.
      • LeeSoong, on 08/07/2008, -2/+1The Only way China would ''Free Tibet'' is through a long, drawn out, very bloody and grim civil war.

        Is requesting a change in political policy worth the lives of hundreds of thousands of people ?

        Try working within the system, it is worth the effort.

      • molotovcat, on 08/07/2008, -1/+2"Working withing the system."

        Haha.. ohhhh golden.

        Please, free Tibet, China! It's just a suggestion, you know...
      • krisp9751, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0whats wrong with hippies?
      • krisp9751, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0I was also wondering which of you heard of the Tienanmen Square Protests. Thats part of the reason there are not mass protests. I don't think any of us know what the chinese people want because their government tells us what they want. O well. I live in the US so apparently I shouldn't be concerned.
    • wakkow, on 08/07/2008, -4/+22Since when are protesters EVER welcome? Isn't that the whole point of a protest?
      • PoleCatz, on 08/07/2008, -2/+5You don't protest to generate kudos.

        And what a sad spectacle - all these Digg keyboard warriors who piss on about the second amendment and a Ron Paul REVOLUTION while tsk-tsking at some simple civil disobedience.

        YOU ARE A BUNCH OF SPINELESS FRAUDS

        PATHETIC!
      • bales, on 08/07/2008, -1/+1You leave Ron Paul out of this.
    • Sandhog, on 08/07/2008, -2/+3They most likely DID know they would be arrested. That is very often the outcome of protesting against something you believe is wrong.
    • sonycam, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0You're the ***** idiot.
      They knew they were going to be arrested, but they can only be held for 4 days maximum. Their parents were just on the TV saying how proud they are of them and they've done the right thing.
    • iyatoni, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0No, these are people who are brave enough to put themselves at risk to make an IMPORTANT statement they believe in.
  • shutaro, on 08/06/2008, -8/+26They will never be heard from again...
    • djoobacca, on 08/07/2008, -9/+2we can all hope!
    • issachar, on 08/07/2008, -0/+10Unlikely. I think her majesty's government might have a thing or two to say about that. And however bad China's government might be, they're not stupid enough to have British subjects "disappear" for hanging a banner. They want the Olympics to be a public relations success, not a monstrous black eye for China.
    • kahrytan, on 08/07/2008, -1/+8They will likely be deported out of the country.
    • SillyDigger, on 08/07/2008, -1/+1No, they'll be heard from again ...in 5 to 10 years.
    • stereosaurus, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0My cousin was arrested for hanging banners (part of the same organization as the people in this article) in China about a year ago and I saw her not long after, I think they just arrested them for a day and then sent them on a plane back to the US. Apparently she was also arrested in SF for the same thing, am somewhat curious which treatment was better.
      • CoMpUtErITGuY, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Stupid bitch shouldn't be breaking laws in any country.
  • coffee200am, on 08/07/2008, -8/+18Like China gives a ***** what white western liberals think.
    • amightywind, on 08/07/2008, -4/+6I think they do. They call it 'saving face'. These barbarians crave acceptance, even though their political system resembles an ant hill more closely than a western democracy.
    • Jelfish, on 08/07/2008, -2/+10What does "white" have anything to do with it? You don't think China thinks the same of Chinese liberals?
    • k3rfuffl3, on 08/07/2008, -1/+4I dunno... Think they care enough to base their government on something some White guy wrote a book about. Hmm... Just maybe.
    • PoleCatz, on 08/07/2008, -3/+3Hey genius, riddle me this:

      IF THEY DON'T GIVE A ***** WHY DO THEY HAVE 100,000 JACKBOOTS RUNNING AROUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE TEARING DOWN TIBETAN FLAGS?

      ***** the Garbage Chinese Government

      Free Tibet
    • AReallyGoodName, on 08/07/2008, -1/+4It seems the same people who yell 'damn liberals!' at anything that's remotely communist are also yelling 'damn liberals!' at anyone who doesn't support the Chinese government.

  • Crath, on 08/07/2008, -42/+42[FREE TIBET]

    Try to take that one down.

    ...sounds like the bury brigade is on its way
    • djoobacca, on 08/07/2008, -20/+1buried you because it's fun to click that red thumbs down!
    • tas08, on 08/07/2008, -10/+2At -3 it looks just about down.
    • crzdmn, on 08/07/2008, -7/+25[FREE TIBET]

      Up ***** Up
    • ixid, on 08/07/2008, -3/+6Hmm not just the bury brigade, I think Digg's got Chinese propaganda posters out in force. Would be very interesting to see some IPs.
    • Hangly, on 08/07/2008, -2/+4While we're at it, free Hawaii.
  • leonwestbrook, on 08/07/2008, -8/+59Protesting in a communist nation? That's a great idea!
    • AReallyGoodName, on 08/07/2008, -6/+4Protesting on the behalf of the local people who have no rights in a nation that gives foreigners some rights?
      Yes that is a great idea!
    • lineweight, on 08/07/2008, -0/+5Wait...they're Communist?!!?? I thought that ended with the Cold War. ...so, if we're against Communism, why do we trade so freely with it?
    • Plotinus, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Protesting in your nation, yeah that works as well. ^^
  • WombleSlayer, on 08/07/2008, -14/+33Free Tibet*

    *With the purchase of one (1) bag of milk.
    • Oztog, on 08/07/2008, -0/+4I would be wary of buying a "Bag of milk"
  • spyd3rweb, on 08/07/2008, -7/+16The athletes should get together and refuse to participate until its moved to another country. To train for Beijing the athletes should smoke a cigarette while practicing.
    • ottos13, on 08/07/2008, -1/+1one of the long distance runners already has pulled out from health concerns, i forget his name though.
    • jgzman, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1It's a little late for that nonsense. If they were going to do that, they should have done it a year ago.
  • scottsutherland, on 08/07/2008, -3/+11This just makes me excited to see what other kind of protesting is going to happen during the Olympics.
    • issachar, on 08/07/2008, -2/+5Only thing worth watching about these Olympics.
  • xomp, on 08/07/2008, -18/+3What is tibet? USA #1 yo yo yo
  • peticsu, on 08/07/2008, -6/+61lets be serious, which country's police allows people to climb up on light poles and protest without a permit...


    none
    • k4rm4, on 08/07/2008, -4/+13LOL this is a very valid point...
      let alone some British man who holds no weight in Chinese politics.
    • Kanten, on 08/07/2008, -9/+3That's of course after noting whether said permit EXISTS.
      • supras, on 08/07/2008, -2/+11They do. Protest pens have been designated. Next time, do your ***** research.
      • Alex2, on 08/07/2008, -2/+1Reminds me of the 'free speech zone' at the LA airport.
      • ithinkiamhuman, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0They very much exist, and with like most permits, they accept safe standards of protesting (aka. no climbing on flimsy tall poles!), also little restrictions like no protesting on the great wall (duh)
  • djoobacca, on 08/07/2008, -16/+3Way to show respect and class. I would expect something like this from Americans but not from British. Complete and utter trash.
    • Teelar, on 08/07/2008, -3/+3***** you, djoobacca. Come over here and I'll show you how we say "Hello" in America, *****.
      • crzdmn, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Normally I'm not for that response these days, but what the hell crawled up your ass djoobacca?
    • dixandbub, on 08/07/2008, -2/+2Screw you, dooshbagga. We'll see how many gold medals the British get compared to America.
      • djoobacca, on 08/07/2008, -1/+1see that's where americans fail: no matter how much wealth you have, you're still trailer trash. there was a saying about this too: you can take trash out of the trailer park but you can't take the trailer park out of the trash. have fun with the medals, redneck.
      • meburnette, on 08/07/2008, -2/+2Id rather be a redneck than a filthy chav. We will enjoy our medals, I think all the medals you Europeans win are going to be melted down and made into fillings as a small step towards better dental hygiene.

        The USA is the leading nation in the world, I wonder how we got there? It must be our idiocy, right? No I doubt it. I hope you have fun in our wake, it is where you belong. We will continue to be better, richer and smarter than you.

        Thanks.
      • djoobacca, on 08/07/2008, -2/+1@meburnette: leading in what? stupidity? a country full of white trash that elects bush twice is hardly smarter. gg
      • ShadowofAres, on 08/07/2008, -2/+2You see, we have trailers, because in order to get across our country, we have to go really far. It may even take days to do it. You, however, can hop in one of those little toys you call cars and zip your pale ass across your island while drinking that armpit extract you call English wine. And just remember, we could turn your middle-aged country's ass into a radioactive plain with the President's approval.
      • ixid, on 08/07/2008, -1/+2Christ you two are stupid, he's not English...
      • djoobacca, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0@ ixid, they're from US. of course they're stupid. loool
    • issachar, on 08/07/2008, -1/+1Respect is earned. China's government is earning our scorn every day with their actions.
      • djoobacca, on 08/07/2008, -1/+1you're a hypocrite and you're in no position to criticize ANYBODY. your own government has committed atrocities in afghanistan and iraq far greater than china. us government (with help of coalition of the retards) has murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people there. go protest that.
      • ShadowofAres, on 08/07/2008, -1/+1Where are these hundreds of thousands of which you speak? And how are they innocent, exactly?
        Oh, and may I bring up what England has done?
  • Turbojugend27, on 08/07/2008, -13/+7Protesting is pretty useless and does nothing in free countries like Canada and the US, but protesting over there? ***** that, stupid idiots.
    • k3rfuffl3, on 08/07/2008, -1/+5Pretty sure protesting was the idea behind that whole Civil Rights movement.
  • unknownpoltroon, on 08/07/2008, -7/+49So some foreign visitors arrested for violating clearly known local laws? Why is this making the front page??
  • Fuzi, on 08/07/2008, -9/+35good job breaking the laws of another country.
  • lukeb1222, on 08/07/2008, -8/+34They were climbing up a pole over TRAFFIC to paste their own message on GOVERNMENT PROPERTY and at the same time ENDANGERING their LIVES and the lives of those below them.


    Geez, I wonder why they were arrested. Same thing would have happened in the U.S.
    • theskillwithin, on 08/07/2008, -8/+2I'm sorry, superheros do this all the time. this guy is a hero to me. I would expect to me arrested to but the media coverage hopefully would make up for it.
    • digggggggggg, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Same thing did. They posted this stuff on the golden gate bridge and were arrested shortly afterward.
  • Teelar, on 08/07/2008, -6/+23I bet not one person here can even tell me just WHY they care about Tibet.
    • sethorama99, on 08/07/2008, -3/+14Easy: They care because it's cool.

      • PoleCatz, on 08/07/2008, -2/+0I heard kissing communist China's ass is the new cool.

        You're so cool, ass-kisser.
      • chompsky, on 08/07/2008, -1/+1WOAH-HO! This was so edgy it just might have cut me.
    • ordig, on 08/07/2008, -7/+4I can:

      http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=79824109768 ...
      • 883XL, on 08/07/2008, -1/+2Wait, so you're trying to justify a violent riot where innocent civilians were killed? wth was China suppose to do? Sit there while while a small extremist group (unrepresentative of the actual Tibetan people) burned down the whole countryside over race issues?

      • ordig, on 08/07/2008, -1/+1You didn't watch it did you.
    • issachar, on 08/07/2008, -10/+3Of course we can. Tibetans are a brutally oppressed people and China has a nasty government. That's pretty much it.
      • Kanten, on 08/07/2008, -1/+4How about the 1.2 billion oppressed people that actually live there?
      • ShadowofAres, on 08/07/2008, -0/+6You don't know anything about the Tibetan ruling class, do you?
    • PoleCatz, on 08/07/2008, -7/+2It's one of the most spiritually rich cultures the world has ever known, being destroyed by a shrill, oppressive, garbage communist dictatorship. It is a human and cultural tragedy of staggering proportions, with human rights abuses that are so horrible they make what Israel does to Palestine look like a foot massage.

      You lose, *****.
      • djoobacca, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2this muppet supports the government that supports the government that allegedly does all stuff he just described.

        way to go!
      • PlayingGangsta, on 08/07/2008, -1/+0I think I read that on the back of a movie box.
    • Sandhog, on 08/07/2008, -5/+3Is torture and murder enough reason to care?
    • DamnMan, on 08/07/2008, -5/+2The same reason I care about Iraqis, Iranians, Israelis, those in African power struggles and homeless people on the street. Or for an example a bit closer to home, those water boarded in Gitmo. They are people. regardless of race religion or creed, I am capable of basic compassion for just about anyone. Do I care if Tibet is a state of China or a free nation? nope. But I do care about the infliction of pain and suffering for any reason.
      • djoobacca, on 08/07/2008, -1/+0I think you meant Palestinians, not Israelis. Israelis are the ones murdering Palestinians and forcing them to sleep on the street.
      • ShadowofAres, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Helzbollah, anyone?
  • gllopc, on 08/07/2008, -6/+35The Dalai Lama doesn't want Tibet to be free:

    "... the people shouting loudest about freeing Tibet don't seem to be aware that that's not even what the Dalai Lama wants from China. He's not seeking full independence, Nepal style; rather he would like to achieve the same status as Hong Kong, which is a "special administrative region". This would give them full economic benefits without having to become a regular province, something along the lines of a US territory. So here's a note to all the Hollywood celebrities: If you really want to support the Dalai Lama, ditch your "Free Tibet" signs and paint some up that say "Change Tibet from an Autonomous Region to a Special Administrative Region". It's not as good of a sound bite, and it's a change that would have little practical impact on Tibetans; but it would allow the Dalai Lama to return to his aristrocratic lifestyle and his 1000 room palace at Potala."

    http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4111
    • sethorama99, on 08/07/2008, -1/+4Skeptoid FTW
    • AReallyGoodName, on 08/07/2008, -8/+5That quite clearly states he doesn't want Tibet to be directly ruled by the Chinese government either.
      • gllopc, on 08/07/2008, -1/+6I get that - but the chant of "Free Tibet" implies that he believes his country has been enslaved by China and he wants freedom from his oppressors. Which in reality is the opposite of the situation.

        He's admitting that Tibet is better off under Chinese ownership, since they now have roads, an educational system, public utilities and other necessities - things they didn't have during the Tibetan system of feudal serfdoms.
      • AReallyGoodName, on 08/07/2008, -2/+1Remember how bad China was 50 years ago under Mao?
        If China had been invaded then i bet you'd be saying look how much better China is after being invaded.
      • DatruKatalyst, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1AReallyGoodName,

        but China was invaded and gutted. Recall the Spheres of Influence era? Japan, USA, Britain, France, etc.

        Why, that's how the Chinese population became addicted to opium - Forced importation by foreign nations. Mmmm look how much better it made China afterwards mmmm - a destitute ruling party trying to feed a destitute population (ala 1920s - 30s China)
    • ordig, on 08/07/2008, -5/+5That's because he realizes that a Tibet that is free of genocide is more important than an independent state.
      • gllopc, on 08/07/2008, -3/+2So you're saying that the Dalai Lama doesn't want independence? But doesn't independence mean freedom, as in a "Free Tibet"?
    • wakkow, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0He just wants religious and cultural freedom. He and his fellow Tibetans primarily want to practice Buddhism unhindered and be able to pass their culture and religion to future generations. They're free to do that in Dharamsala but few women survive the trek meaning there are few children to pass the culture onto.
      • gllopc, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0Wakkow, I have no problem with that concept at all. If he wants freedom to do that, there are many countries in which he could practice his religion freely. Whether he's in India, or the US, thought, I think the trek is going to be too far for a lot of people. And he's not saying "Free Buddhism", which would be more applicable to that argument.
  • alclone, on 08/07/2008, -20/+18Real Chinese men would have killed the protesters.

    Fyi I'm Chinese... bury me
    • raydeen, on 08/07/2008, -9/+9Real men regardless of culture wouldn't resort to violence. Buried.
      • AsianChopsticks, on 08/07/2008, -2/+1Try telling that to Chuck Norris or Rambo
    • thecoolestguy, on 08/07/2008, -4/+5What ***** retard dug this guy up?
    • Sandhog, on 08/07/2008, -6/+3Apparently there are no real Chinese men in China.
    • Sandhog, on 08/07/2008, -5/+4Real Chinese men like to perform unnecessary surgical procedures on women.
    • Sandhog, on 08/07/2008, -5/+4Real Chinese men like to control other people.
    • graahBrains, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0k
  • scottsutherland, on 08/07/2008, -1/+11I don't know what's ballsier - protesting the Chinese government, or dangling 100 ft + from a dinky rope support.
  • restlessmouse, on 08/07/2008, -7/+10Hanging a FREE TIBET banner in China is like the blue gorilla at the car lot. It only serves to let people know you exist, it doesn't sway anyone.

    Why don't they just have some respect for the athletes and shaddup.
    • NuclearIsShit, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1kind of like people who protested the war in Iraq?

      Why don't they support our troops and shut up. That is just army propaganda.

      The more we get this issue out in the open, the more the Chinese government will have to deal with their human rights issues.
    • jakatak, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Better yet, why don't we stay home and send a real message. That is why I won't be watching or supporting the Beijing Olympics. They make their own people suffer so China can look good to the world. Sick country.
  • damian7, on 08/07/2008, -10/+61Guess what, I live in Canada. If I attempt to hang a flag on a bridge I'll be arrested, possibly tazed. It's called the law.

    How would you like it if some Arab went into America and put a FREE GUANTANAMO PRISONERS on the Brooklyn Bridge?

    Hypocrisy is fun
    • issachar, on 08/07/2008, -12/+6Don't demonstrate your ignorance my fellow canuck. You just reinforce that stereotype of us being ignorantly & reflexively anti-American.

      If some Arab showed up in America and protested Guantanamo, he'd have the right to do so. Sure he'd probably get a fine or something for hanging a sign off a bridge, but the law would protect his right to protest. This is not the case with China. If you look at the article they were detained for under anti-demonstration laws. Not for climbing the poll, just for protesting Chinese government policy.

      Calling China out on it's oppression of Tibet isn't hypocrisy. How long did we let that sidewalk obstructing (and thus law-breaking)_pro-Tibet demonstration in Vancouver carry on? I seem to recall it was a few days, but it was definitely a lot longer than China let that Tibetan flag hang up there.

      Shame on you.
      • DamnMan, on 08/07/2008, -0/+3I dare you to try it, go hang a banner from a streetlight in Langley decrying Guantanamo. For extra credit tell them your Muslim when they arrest you.

        The president still has the power to point his finger and say "enemy combatant". Guess where your headed then, no rights, no trial, no laws. Realistically your only saving grace would be in being Canadian where disappearing you may cause some friction(see Terry Hicks) with the Canadian government.

        But what if they didn't have to worry about pissing off their neighboring government? what if they were already "Freeing" your home country? Can you honestly tell me you would expect fair or even humane treatment?

        And for what its worth, I'm American. I was unaware of any Anti-American Canadian stereotype.
    • repoulin, on 08/07/2008, -2/+2Should have just used UK in your hypothetical situation since the perps were British
    • lineweight, on 08/07/2008, -2/+5I would feel fine with an Arab hanging that on the bridge, because like the Tibetan prisoners, most of the Gitmo prisoners are probably innocent.
    • Typhoon2009, on 08/07/2008, -0/+3I wouldn't really give a ***** if he put a sign on the bridge.
    • mllawso, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1What a stupid example -- the Arab is CLEARLY a terrorist, while the white people aren't.
    • BillMoocho, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Do you like getting handjobs?
    • Thomaschaaf, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0I would like the idea of someone putting up one of those flags but you are right...
  • floam, on 08/07/2008, -6/+19Nobody wants to hear this, but I'd like to remind Diggers that:

    The Dalai Lama does not want a "Free Tibet" ala Nepal. He wants a special administrative zone like Hong Kong.

    Tibet is neither historically free nor historically part of China. It's complicated.

    Tibet is better off after the invasion of Tibet in 1950. Really. They freed 95% of the population, serfs who had no property, rights, or freedom. The elite upper class, including the Dalai Lama, left and now live richly outside China, living in giant palaces and flying around on private jets. The people in Tibet had no culture. They were slaves. There was no art except for one or two top-class monks.
    • PoleCatz, on 08/07/2008, -4/+1Tibet is now a Chinese whorehouse, filled with trash and child prostitutes.

      THAT'S PROGRESS. THANK YOU CHINA FOR SMASHING THE WORLDS GREATEST SPIRITUAL CULTURE AND REPLACING IT WITH A FILTHY CHINESE WHOREHOUSE.
      • sethorama99, on 08/07/2008, -1/+2Hey man, you have some retard on your lip... yeah right there... oops, my bad, that's your head.
      • floam, on 08/07/2008, -0/+3There was no great spiritual culture. It was hell. Before China came in, the then Dalai Lama was still okay with ***** GOUGING EYES OUT of serfs for small crimes. Seriously, read up on it. It's not much worse than the rest of China right now, and it's a hell of a lot better for those that would otherwise still be in serfdom. I imagine if Tibet was still running their own thing now perhaps international pressure would force them to become a little bit more humane, but back in 1950, this is post-WW2, it was pretty bad.
  • mattmollysdad, on 08/07/2008, -13/+21a-holes. i hope they enjoy Chinese jails.
    • PoleCatz, on 08/07/2008, -5/+2I hope you get to enjoy one too, and your bunkmate is a Tibetan political prisoner who can explain to your in excruciating detail what an ignorant ***** you are.
  • kleash, on 08/07/2008, -5/+13Wait, would i get arrested for hanging a flag saying "impeach Bush" by the white house? Seriously, as much as we hate it, its the law.
  • john2kx, on 08/07/2008, -5/+4Here we go: is the new BREAKING:
    • Sandhog, on 08/07/2008, -3/+3"is the new" is the new "Here we go", "BREAKING", "SPECTACULAR"...etc...etc...etc. All this "meme" bashing is stupid. Everyones "meme" is better than the next persons. Give it a rest.
  • Mohdoo, on 08/07/2008, -13/+9The more they arrest, the more protests there will be...We aren't as brainwashed as their people. We'll fight back.
    • djoobacca, on 08/07/2008, -2/+6You're even more brainwashed than the Chinese if you live in US or any country US owns.
    • Digger1218, on 08/07/2008, -1/+5They'll just deport everyone. The Chinese government doesn't give a flying ***** what anyone else thinks.
    • Wakkyweed, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0Good luck trying to convince the Chinese. Tibet has been occupied by the Chinese off and on for about 300 years. The average Chinese person believes that Tibet is a part of China, and would regard a Tibetan revolt as about the same as an American would regard a Cherokee revolt.

      It doesn't mean that they aren't wrong. It's just how they feel.
  • uker, on 08/07/2008, -10/+8Human right doesn't give all of you to do something illegal in other country. Just like I can't ***** a child in your country. Where is your respect to others? Nothing. If you do respest others' lives, the Iraqi people will not die. Everyone think he is the god of others. In fact, you are only the god of yourself. So, fuch off and suck your own dick.
    • thegrantman, on 08/07/2008, -0/+5Can someone translate this for me?
      • Digger1218, on 08/07/2008, -0/+6The message is to respest people in other country and to go fuch yourself.


        Sorry, my idiot translator isn't working today.
      • thegrantman, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2My bad...she doesn't speak English well. I'll assume she has trouble with phrasing things too.
      • Sandhog, on 08/07/2008, -1/+3It says he likes children in a very bad way.
      • ixid, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0My Engrish skills are too rusty.
    • zboyet, on 08/07/2008, -0/+7You ***** children?
    • Sandhog, on 08/07/2008, -2/+1Iraqi people were dying before the US ever stepped in.
    • Sandhog, on 08/07/2008, -2/+2So you are allowed to have sex with children in your country. That's pretty sick. I don't think I care what you have to say. You don't deserve any respect if you are having sex with children.
    • Sandhog, on 08/07/2008, -1/+3Actually it does. If "the law" is at odds with human rights, then "the law" is null and void.
    • AresDiggs, on 08/07/2008, -0/+3My name is Chris Hanson, why don't you have a seat.
    • TrevorBelmont, on 08/07/2008, -1/+3You're embarrassing yourself and being a poor ambassador of your people. You can't cry for respect and tell people to fuch(sic) off and suck their own dicks in the same breath.
  • sethorama99, on 08/07/2008, -7/+10Well, on the bright side they brought some attention to an issue that is often overlooked.
  • wukillabee, on 08/07/2008, -12/+6their british, who cares? :)
    • ShaneApex, on 08/07/2008, -5/+2And you can't spell, so that kind of shows your intelligence level.
    • DatruKatalyst, on 08/07/2008, -0/+4it's not really a spelling problem; it was a grammar problem.

      sooo...black pot and tea kettle.
      • CoMpUtErITGuY, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0sooo...my schlong and your mom.
  • ShaneApex, on 08/07/2008, -6/+6Maybe they shouldn't have climbed the pole which is obviously illegal.
  • GramarNazi, on 08/07/2008, -3/+4The pollution is definitely bad, but that rumor's *****.
  • johnnyrocket, on 08/07/2008, -12/+7The Chinese government is a bunch of ***** authoritarian *****-for-brains.
    • supras, on 08/07/2008, -3/+3I dare you to shout that in Mandarin in Chinatown.
      • AReallyGoodName, on 08/07/2008, -0/+3They have national pride, but that doesn't mean they'd care about the Chinese government being called a bunch of ***** authoritarian *****-for-brains.
    • jowSithm, on 08/07/2008, -1/+2..ya, but if you ruled China I bet it would be worse.
  • novemberwhiskey, on 08/07/2008, -5/+9This is the first time I've seen some logic in the responses to an article regarding China.

    Keep up the good work!

  • UtahApocalyse, on 08/07/2008, -5/+3So much for the 'increased' security in China. I fear that another very bad Olympic tragedy is days away
  • ordig, on 08/07/2008, -7/+7If you want to know something about the situation, You need to watch this video.

    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=79824109768 ...

    Otherwise, anything you say on the topic is uninformed.
    • Sandhog, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Why are people digging this down? Can't stand to see the truth on video?
      • Eric1285, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1China has obviously hired/enslaved people to bury negative stories all across the web. That, and the millions of brainwashed Chinese citizens who think their government is glorious and right in all ways.

        It's so sad that they're willing to live under a totalitarian state. Hopefully, in a few decades or centuries the Chinese will look back on these years as the dark times. For right now, they seem to be content with their government dictating every aspect of their lives in order to promote a "harmonious society".
  • jordansampson, on 08/07/2008, -5/+6I wonder if all these "free Tibet" people understand the history or the system of rule that Tibet would like to reinstate.

    Im all for everyone having their own place with their own culture; even if i dont agree with it. I just find it funny that the same people who want to give Tibet back to the Dalai Lama will be the same people who get up in arms about the very system of government he brings with him.
  • Kakumeikeahi, on 08/07/2008, -2/+4China might get a lot of attention they don't want because of the Olympics.
    • britoca, on 08/07/2008, -0/+3might??? lol they're already in the thick of it
  • bchang, on 08/07/2008, -7/+3Admirable but idiotic.
  • AlienMushroom, on 08/07/2008, -6/+10I don't understand why those stupid tools always try to tie sports with politics. Besides, Tibet has already been freed by the Chinese gov't over 50 years from Dalai Lama (yes, the same guy many stupid westerners are praising), the biggest slave owner in human history.
    • issachar, on 08/07/2008, -6/+4lol... right because China hasn't been using the Olympics as a political tool, and neither did the Nazi's when they hosted the games. It's just these Free Tibet types that do it.

      International sport IS political. Get used to it, or don't bother with International sport.
      • dravidian, on 08/07/2008, -3/+3Political tool? What political message is China using the olympics for? I'm dying to know.
      • NuclearIsShit, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Buy more of our cheap plastic crap! Our people love working in massive factories with no piss breaks and doing ***** soul killing jobs! They don't even care if they barely get enough money to buy rice!


      • AlienMushroom, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0@***** - STFU if you just heard that from someone or your biased media, rather than witnessing by yourself.
  • thecoolestguy, on 08/07/2008, -10/+3The Nazi Olympics
    • mastersquirrel3, on 08/07/2008, -2/+2The Nazis were far right. The Chinese are far left. The only thing they have in common is Totalitarianism. They are two different political systems working for two very different goals.
      • britoca, on 08/07/2008, -0/+3their "far left" is long gone now... it's capitalism, except only one colossal corporation
      • Sandhog, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1And that makes it all OK.
  • bchang, on 08/07/2008, -3/+5If your going to do this, do it in Hong Kong where freedom of speech is acceptable.
  • DatruKatalyst, on 08/07/2008, -0/+12I keep reading about the oppressive gov't in China.

    Something to point out: the country has 1.3 billion people scratching for consumerism. The only thing stopping the entire national population from turning into the excessive consumerism of developed countries is the communist party. I mean, America has 300 million. What if 1.3 billion more were allowed to buy cars and other fine items? It'd be disastrous for the Chinese and the West. There's a lot of ignorance when it comes to this debate. I see lots of sentiments of the bane that is the ruling party in China, but it is them that is attempting to keep the dam from bursting and flooding. It's cruel to say that the entire population shouldn't have gluttonous lives like most of us, but China sees what a population of 300 million can do to the environment - we'd be in the ***** if 1300 million led that lifestyle. It sucks but man if it weren't for these measures, you should start imagining your gas price + $20 or something. Oh, and we may be happy to say goodbye to Made in China products because the Chinese will buy 'em - just don't expect anything to be cheap anymore.

    Studying some Asian American history this summer, it's contriving to read all the sympathies for internationals but if they came to America as an immigrant they'd encounter even more abandonment and hate.

    Ok so this post is really pro-China. I want them to have a good Olympics. They worked really hard for it, and they really want to show the world a good time. BUT yea goddamn it that pollution is really a *****.
    • jowSithm, on 08/07/2008, -1/+5....never really thought of it that way
    • bokep, on 08/07/2008, -0/+7I'm surprised you didn't take your point further with pollution.

      The pollution is there because their factories are producing goods for the rest of the world, the goods that make our consumerist lifestyle possible. It's quite obvious yet tragic that most people who protest China fail to see this. They ridicule China for not able to control its pollution, when they themselves are creating the demand for these factories in the first place.

      When you're making goods for almost everyone in the world, there is no way you can keep your environment clean (relatively to other countries).
    • Crizack, on 08/07/2008, -5/+2Your post is ***** a billion of the people in China live in poverty. The places where the Chinese government limits freedom is in the political realm not in economic pursuits. That is how the government is oppressive. By "disappearing" people and taking the their land without any sort of compensation. ***** the people who turn a blind eye to China's human rights abuses because of the Olympics.
    • DatruKatalyst, on 08/07/2008, -0/+6Crizack,

      you're wrong. If you have ever taken some kind of ethnic history, you will always find that 3 gov't controls work together to cause a push or pull reaction: Economic, Political, and Social.

      I concede that redevelopment in Beijing was sad, but at least the resident were compensated with housing in newly constructed housing. I live here in San Francisco. Here, in the US. Did you know the gov't redeveloped much of the the area surrounding downtown to become high-rises? What was torn down: low-cost housing and ethnic enclaves. Were they compensated? No. They were literally taken out of their houses and dragged to the sidewalk across the street.

      Swearing makes you look comical.

      • Crizack, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0Look when I said political freedom I was generalizing of course economic, political and social issues overlap. I was trying to explain that political rights are not on the Chinese government's to-do list. Of they course the care about unregulated and uncontrolled economic growth. But the Chinese government would rather have uncontrolled growth than free democratic elections because then those billion people in the country side can vote them out of power. They rather have the population fat and happy with their new wealth than pay attention to the ruling regime. Are you aware of the thousands of violent riots that go on in China every year but because of the state controlled media nobody in China sees them?

        I wasn't aware that eminent domain was a problem in the San Francisco area. What was your point? It's many times worst in China. All you have to do is look up the environmental disaster that is the Three Gorges Dam. I wonder if the poor Chinese out in the fields will have a happy Olympic games or the thousands of political prisoners or the ethnic minorities or the people in Darfur. It's funny how people ignore the obvious problems with he Chinese government in favor of some silly games that can take place anywhere else.

        Being patronizing makes you look uninformed.
    • Eric1285, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Looks like you've never been to China. Take a trip there and tell me that they haven't already fully embraced capitalism and consumerism. If you think the communist party's main function is to hold consumerism in check, someone has pulled a very thick wool over your eyes.
      • DatruKatalyst, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0Eric1285, don''t assume and you missed my point. I have been to China. I've been to the cities and the countries. You're point is right, capitalism is everywhere now. THAT is the problem the gov't is facing. How do they keep the economy running (they have recognized that capitalism is much more efficient in making money) yet keep 1300 million people from claiming their slice of the pie at the same time? Yes, everyone is free to make money in China - capitalism. But like I said the gov't is using their political clout to slow the amount of money the populace are actually making. This leads back to my 1st post on this thread. They can't have 1300 million people spending the same amt of money developed country people are spending.

        What I'm saying is: you have to look deeper into the whole capitalism/consumerism thing. The money the gov't holds is kinda different from the per capita spending/earning of the country. The party itself is building like crazy, but that does not mean they are advocating that the population should embrace the spending habits of the developed. You just can't have 1300 million more people consuming like the developed.
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