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Police: Student Uses Pen, Gun Powder To Make Pipe Bomb

wftv.com — A student at a Seminole County high school was arrested for allegedly making a pipe bomb out of a pen and investigators also say he made threats against his school.

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  • webcure, on 10/22/2007, -21/+4Why do these kids want to blow up their schools and shoot their classmates?
    • shadus, on 10/22/2007, -6/+72Because they're sick of being brutalized by the ***** with no brain. I don't have any problem relating to them and understanding why they might want to kill people... if you get beat enough and no one is willing to help you and even when you try to fight back more people just hold you down... you eventually get to the point where you feel like your only option left is to kill them and yourself... where you really don't see any value in yourself or your future, all you see is the pain and suffering you endure everyday.

      You want to cut school shootings and bomb scares from students down 90%? End the bullying. End the protection of the bullies by school administrators because they can't afford to have their star athlete suspended during the big game. End the protection of bullies by school administrators because their dad is a major contributor to the school and on the school board and he wouldn't like it if his son got in trouble.

      I was brutalized at school. I was beaten severely on an almost daily basis for 4 years... had I not changed schools when i would have snapped long before the next year ended and having grown up on a farm shooting guns my entire life and having access to real dynamite for stump removal and pond digging, it would have made columbine look like a couple kids who were upset about a bad test score.

      It's been over 10 years since I graduated and to this day, with all the psych council I've received, I hate the people who did that to me. I hate the people who protected them because they were on the football team. I hate the school. I have scars mentally and physically that will never heal, that can never be fixed, and most people will never understand the kind of agony I went through.

      That being said... to anyone out there in the same situation, just hang in there. Run if you can-- change schools and destroy the first person to try to pick on you at the new school... yah it'll get you some time in suspension but you will never get in another fight at the new school again, if you can't do that fight back even if it costs you, make them pay for every hit-- nuts, throat, solar plexus, ear clap, nose, elbows and knees inflict the most damage, hunt them down one at a time if they gang up, if you're under 18 goto the police and report them every time you get attacked, and get your parents to help you press charges or if you're 18 do it yourself. Get some psych help and remember it does get better the day you graduate... you'll never suffer like that again, you'll never be tortured mentally or physically again, and it'll be over permanently and you can enjoy watching them founder and become losers for the rest of their lives while you excel. Those assholes aren't worth spending your life in jail or dying over, you're better than them, give life some time to prove that.
      • BenitoMussolini, on 10/22/2007, -25/+1Summary: "destroy the first person to try to pick on you at the new school"
      • vault, on 10/21/2007, -1/+22Damn shadus...that's quite a story, sorry to hear that.
      • psyjoniz, on 10/21/2007, -1/+11very very well put. emotionally charged and true. and i identify with your story so much though i went through 5 highschools in 3 years. i believe the worst was when a gang of black kids beat the ***** out of me on a school bus while the driver watched, helpless. and when i say gang, i mean a kid in school who was part of a gang had some of his gang members get on the bus on the way to school with him. the second worst was having the star QB throw me down a flight of stairs. i did break his nose and send him to the hospital (right then and there) but *****, that dumb piece of ***** didn't know me from a hole in the wall - asshats like that deserve to have a ligament ripped out. i'm just glad he's sitting around wondering why his life fell apart after he didn't make it big playing dumbassball. i'm glad i stuck to studying and have an actual career now. its too bad i still, to this day, look back with such negativity. pain. loneliness. rage.

        but i never considered it ok to hurt people for no reason because i had been hurt for no reason (see: i'm not going to be so weak as to let this kinda thing set me off). i also wouldn't be so stupid enough to believe that a gunpowdered filled sharpie would do anything but put a big shining spotlight on my ignorance of creating an effective bomb. i dunno. this kid sounds like he just needed some attention from mommy.
      • stealthc, on 10/21/2007, -1/+8I can't digg shadus up enough. I was never subject to that degree of brutality, but school kids are RUTHLESS. The protection of bullies needs to end. If by his description high school sounds a lot like prison (kick someone's ass the first day), it can be a lot like prison. An anarchy of brutes governed distantly by the authority figures. Teachers don't see even 10% of what really goes on. You might look like a wuss now, but REPORT the people who ***** with you. It will keep you safer in the long run, and then you'll graduate, and then you get to go on to college and/or a real job, while they get to sprout beer bellies and illegitimate children. But being an adult, you'll probably just pity them at that point.
        • faskill, on 10/22/2007, -4/+1I can't Digg him down enough. People are ruthless... children are people, therefore children are ruthless. People will always pick on the weak. I was picked on. I grew stronger and smarter. Dominance and authoriaty are neccessities that forges something from the nothings.
          Perhaps if people were taught how to overcome adversities instead of running to someone bigger to protect them they could fair better on their own.
      • ubergeek09, on 10/22/2007, -2/+0Although people may be led to do this by the way they are treated, that doesn't give them any excuse to go to their school and kill people. Many times these people end up killing people who never even did anything to the shooter, innocent people die. It's really a very selfish thing to do to go to school and kill a bunch of people, who have their entire lives ahead of them.
        • williamdyer, on 10/22/2007, -0/+1The bullies will only grow up to be steroid pumped cops. Better to put them down like rabid dogs.
    • Dundasbro, on 10/22/2007, -17/+3Because you touch yourself at night.
  • williamdyer, on 10/22/2007, -1/+71A pen and gunpowder? Wow. Did he have a dull half-inch knife, too?
    • DesertDude, on 10/21/2007, -2/+31We'll never know. He was tasered to death.
    • faskill, on 10/21/2007, -0/+2 
      • drgmdp, on 10/22/2007, -1/+2and the pen body (not the tank) is not resistant enough to explode causing serious damage.
  • asauterChicago, on 10/22/2007, -1/+69Oh come on, this is crap. Gunpowder, in a plastic casing with a fuse attached, would at best, produce a very bright hot flash. Maybe some burns. This is just another sensationalize thing for the main stream media to pick up in order to scare soccer moms. Next schools will wiping down pens for explosive residue.
    I mean, a sharpy? A sharpy of all things?? Not a glass bottle, small steel pipe, a freaking sharpy with a fuse attached?? How was he planning to use it: "Jimmy would be so kind to solve the problem on the white board" "Sure Mrs. Lame, just let me get my liter, heh, heh, heh"... Whatever
    • epw11108, on 10/21/2007, -11/+7spelled lighter wrong
      • Hayaemsay, on 10/21/2007, -15/+5Spelt.
      • asauterChicago, on 10/22/2007, -2/+16How do you know I didn't mean to say "Liter"? Huh? Do ya? I could be saying that he was about to reach for a Liter of milk, to drink, because he's thirsty, really thirsty, so thirsty he needs a whole Liter and he needs it before he grabs his lighter and blows the whole ***** place up... with his plastic sharpy...
        • Murdats, on 10/22/2007, -6/+5because thats litre

          edit:curse you words who cant decide how they are spelt, they are both right
      • Laughsatyou, on 10/21/2007, -1/+1gimme a goddamn litre o cola.
      • impedance101, on 10/21/2007, -0/+2i thought it was a sharpie..
    • actorboy, on 10/21/2007, -5/+2asauterChicago, why don't you hold it on your hand while I light it.
      • asauterChicago, on 10/21/2007, -0/+6Er, in my juniority I've experimented with gunpowder before. Let's just say pouring a whole bunch of gunpowder into a metal can... while sitting in a carpeting living room, is not the brightest idea...
      • krnldmp, on 10/21/2007, -1/+2You safely could. That's the point of the rant. Maybe get a molten plastic burn if you were stupid enough to keep holding too long after it went off.
    • wiifm69, on 10/21/2007, -0/+19Sensationalist headline for sure. Should read: "drop kick school kid makes homemade sparkler"
      Anyway, in order to make a pipe bomb, you need a PIPE
    • GawtMilk, on 10/22/2007, -0/+3"Sure Mrs. Lame, just let me get my lighter, heh, heh, heh"

      That was ***** hilarious.
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 10/22/2007, -0/+4I used to make the same stuff when I was a kid.
      Why do these reactionary assholes have to justify their jobs by slamming little kids who play with stuff that blows up? Who the hell is going to become a chemist anymore? A pen with "gunpowder" or just as likely crap emptied out of a firecracker is a lot less dangerous than a can of hair spray. Get a ***** grip.
      Like what did any of these security guard assholes do as kids? I'm willing to bet that half of them would be labelled a "terrorist" if someone knew of their recreational activities. What a bunch of reactionary, up-tight ***** fascists!
  • Dysarthria, on 10/22/2007, -0/+42Whats next, the Trapper-Keeper missile base?
    • lonnieh, on 10/21/2007, -0/+5mine was disguised with lamborghini pictures. the lambos were a lie.
      • Scorps111, on 10/22/2007, -0/+4oh No am gonna get arrested for making flash paper out of a picture of a naked woman. Oh no they'll think its a bomb.
      • yournamehere, on 10/22/2007, -3/+3the cake is a lie
    • yournamehere, on 10/22/2007, -4/+1that's friggin funny
  • Rooster99, on 10/22/2007, -1/+24Wow! Im going to assume that most of the fireworks that me and a lot of people my age played with back in the day was much more dangerous that a pen filled with gunpowder. Im also going assume (as I am not a pyro-technician) that a pen does not have the structural integrity to create the pressure required to cause a big explosion. At best this thing probably would have done a little flash, a bang that sounds like a really loud clap and a lot of smoke.
  • gormenghast, on 10/22/2007, -1/+27Pens outlawed
    • shortarabguy, on 10/21/2007, -0/+6Heh, sharpies were already banned from my middle school several years ago when they were worried that their new buildings would get defaced. It didn't really occur to them that it was the high school kids who were vandalizing the schools on the weekends when the school was unlocked and completely unattended.
      Last I heard, they banned white out ink as well...
      • streetr8cer13, on 10/21/2007, -0/+3the white out was banned in middle school for me as well when i was younger they had said it was illegal but i think they didnt want it in the carpets or kids sniffing it idk
  • Hayaemsay, on 10/21/2007, -1/+7That's nothing, at my previous school someone blew up a large rubbish bin.
  • BenitoMussolini, on 10/21/2007, -2/+4Keep this from the front page! Don't let Jack Thompson find out!
    • DemDude, on 10/21/2007, -0/+6"Obviously, this boy took the idea from GTA3, where one of the main goals of the game is to sodomize grandmas and cheerleaders with a pen-bomb, then eat their flesh and poop on their relatives' doorsteps!" - Tack Jhompson
      • dykemoney, on 10/21/2007, -1/+0Where do I buy this game? I have a hankering.
  • badassninja, on 10/21/2007, -1/+15And this is why we are afraid of men with box knifes.
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 10/21/2007, -0/+1Just you wait -- Al Qaeda could come back at us with 38 box cutters next time. Dammit -- we need more nukes!
      /sarcasm
    • Fluffiness, on 10/26/2007, -0/+2I get what you're saying but,

      A non-trained person can easily slash to the bone with a box cutter. Generally speaking, fighting someone with a knife means you ARE going to get ***** up.
  • DiggMasterJ, on 10/21/2007, -1/+5Bringing contraband to school is always a blast.
  • macwac, on 10/22/2007, -0/+41Thats a firecracker not a bomb
  • suspectzero, on 10/21/2007, -11/+2wow,im lucky.I got caught with the same thing in 7th grade.this was before columbine.all i got was suspension and probation.
    dont let the size fool you,you can do some damage with a bomb that small.he should have added ball bearings
  • linksus, on 10/21/2007, -0/+5Thats smaller than a bloody firework. Sigh
  • Scorps111, on 10/21/2007, -8/+2WHAT THE *****? can i ask y arrest him i would happly put this in my ass its that weak, jeez if they start arresting people here in the UK like over in the us its ANARCHY Time lol, ***** ***** uneducated governments using propaganda and utter ***** to terrify and manipulate citizens
    • AnotherBrian, on 10/24/2007, -2/+1You should be arrested for that sentence (and I use that term sentance loosely).
  • AUmrysh, on 10/22/2007, -1/+4I'm glad I did stupid ***** like bring knives to school back before all this crazyness happened. I brought an uber sharp utility knife to elementary school in 5th grade and the principal took it from me and gave it to my mom. I also made threats to vandalize the school. Back then, I was just facing in school suspension. Faking crying always gets 'em :D
    That pen wouldn't do much, maybe pop in half and catch on fire at best. I hardly see how there is anything illegal or dangerous about a sharpie filled with black powder. They should light it and see what kind of damage it could really do in a lab environment, I think they would be disappointed.
  • TyR88, on 10/21/2007, -0/+6More like a flashbomb if you ask me. Would be cool to have in class though. Just stand up in the middle of the class throw it on the ground and *POOF* and 5sec later you've successfully entered the ventilation system and nobody will never know how you got away from that pop quiz. Theeee End *martin sargent voice*
  • Blitzenn, on 10/22/2007, -0/+7I am not THAT old and when I went to school (42 now), you were looked down on if you didn't have a decent utility style knife. Granted it was in a rural area, but the mindset was completely different. My how things have changed.

    So, is loading your own shells now (which many americans do) considered a terrorist activity? Are they considered small 'pipe bombs'?
    • swrlyhrly, on 10/22/2007, -2/+1Shells? God damn! Loading your own bullets is cool but your own shells? WTF are you shooting at?
  • stealthc, on 10/21/2007, -2/+7Police around every corner will help nothing. Just give the whelp a good spanking and be done with it.
    • toastgodsupreme, on 10/21/2007, -0/+4I remember when my elementary school still spanked kids... yeah, no one went around making bombs or doing stupid ***** like this back then. (and I'm only 24)
      • krnldmp, on 10/21/2007, -0/+1They still did pummel the ***** out of each other though. Oh, those were the days, when kids took care of themselves.
        • toastgodsupreme, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1Damn right. We policed each other. What ever happened to the good ol' days of kids meeting up after school and beating each other into submission until a winner was decided by the mob?

          That was how ***** went down. And it was a good time. You learned to either not make an ass of yourself and get pummeled, or you learned to fight. Guns are for pussies.
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 10/22/2007, -0/+2Crap -- we should be spanking these cops for being such pussies and alarmists. How does this panty-waiste behavior protect us from someone sneaking a nuke across our borders? Can we spend time on the REAL ***** threats, please?
      This is why I can't trust Conservatives to keep us safe -- my guess is you are a conservative.
  • Error601, on 10/21/2007, -8/+1Ah, dumbasses, he mades threats. The little pen thing is hardly the story.
  • dteresh, on 10/21/2007, -0/+6Well, *****. Now we're not going to be allowed to bring pens onto planes. :(
    • TyR88, on 10/21/2007, -0/+8Somebody should make a deadly device out of bra's, blouses, and tops. Then I'd fly 24/7
  • googeling, on 10/22/2007, -2/+1how on earth did a pen transform into a pipe?
    i though pipe bombs are those you see in McGuyver where he stuffs gun powder into a metal pipe, not a pen!
  • drizzlelicious, on 10/21/2007, -3/+21. He made threats against the school
    2. He TRIED to make a bomb

    Kid still needs some help
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 10/21/2007, -0/+1Probably because they are life-sucking brain-dead herd animals who get all bent out of shape and call a firecracker a WMD.
      Hell, you I definitely could side with this kid.
  • ChristBehemoth, on 10/21/2007, -0/+6science + students = boom
    • shredswithpiks, on 10/22/2007, -1/+1= fail, maybe... worst bomb ever
  • givinupthefight, on 10/21/2007, -0/+4Eat your heart out, Macgyver.
  • Goobernutz, on 10/22/2007, -2/+13I made a pipe bomb out of my arse and a can of beans. i ar teh l33t terrurist, Bin Fartin.
  • kroenecker, on 10/22/2007, -0/+7He has a felony now. Back when I was in high school someone stuck a real pipe bomb under a water fountain in a school in my city. I blew the fountain off the wall. That's a serious pipe bomb. This kid needs to talk to someone who wants to actually help him. He doesn't need a felony and he doesn't need to perceive himself as already being a "hardened criminal."
    • kroenecker, on 10/21/2007, -0/+3Oops. "It" blew the fountain off the wall. I definitely don't support violence of that sort.
  • borgheses, on 10/21/2007, -0/+3i bet it was wasn't even packed... would have just been a bottlerocket without the stick. i gotta try that one next 4th of july! Sharpie rockets!
  • manicallday, on 10/21/2007, -0/+1He should've posted a "how to" on Metacafe.
  • cranium, on 10/22/2007, -0/+13I'm surprised they didn't notice the sword he made out of a paper clip.
  • hmunkey, on 10/22/2007, -1/+5"AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IT'S ALL MACGYVER'S FAULT BAN MACGYVER AND MAKE IT ILLEGALZ IN THE USA!!!111"
    -Jack Thompson
  • KingBunny, on 10/21/2007, -0/+1I hope no innocent squirrels were hurt with this.. umm.. bomb.
  • Abomonog, on 10/22/2007, -1/+2Hell, I watch a friend drop a lit M-80 in the gas tank of our principals car. Car went boom about a minute later.
    Did it to the guys rental the very next day. Neither explosion was front page newsworthy in 1980. Today possession of a firecracker makes you a terrorist. Sheesh.
  • GunOfTheMartyr, on 10/22/2007, -1/+1Who the ***** does this kid think he is? MacGuyver?
  • RobsaysHello, on 10/22/2007, -0/+4Shame on those parents. That child's trainig in improvised explosives has been sorely neglected.
  • AngryAngryBrian, on 10/22/2007, -2/+2the only intelligent thing to do is ban pens from school.
  • ubergeek09, on 10/22/2007, -2/+0Wow, just wow. That wouldn't hurt anyone.. But the kid meant to hurt people, so he needs help.
  • k1down, on 10/22/2007, -1/+2Some kid did this exact thing at my high school. He was showing it to someone and supposedly they lit it, and the kid held it and blew his hand to hell. It was a ballpoint pen full of flash powder. I can vouch though, I definitely heard it, and it definitely blew his hand to hell, but it was flash powder. People messed with him a lot, but I don't know of anybody ever really kicking his ass much. Perhaps some people just have a propensity for snapping?
  • accessviolation, on 10/22/2007, -0/+2Big ***** deal. I've seen cafeteria food more dangerous. No one could be dumb enough to threaten someone with a firecracker. My guess is the school official, police, and media are blowing this all out of proportion. Charge the kid with disturbing the peace and whatever you charge people with for making false bomb threats.
  • jaymzdean, on 11/09/2007, -1/+3I couldn't care less what the "police" say about a godamned thing.
    They are not to be trusted.
    Pigs.
  • Sabre, on 10/22/2007, -2/+1Bomb defused. Counter-terrorists win.

    I'm not entirely sure what he could've used that for. I doubt it'd do much damage, unless he used it against a person.
    Yeah, then that'd be bad.
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