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- ritchmaster, on 10/10/2007, -57/+7I'm confused. Where's the two o'clock again?
- thewebdev, on 10/10/2007, -43/+118Let's make this the most dugg down comment in Digg History ---- EVERYONE LICK MY BALLS!
- Kedyn, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16Of course if you say something like that, you're going to get dugg up.
- Kratos76, on 10/10/2007, -14/+2LICK MY BALLS Bitch!
- lukedinan, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1is this article that boring?
- DocHoliday22, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Coz it's to do with maths...
- Kratos76, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2That's the easiest freakin one, dumbass!! ...unless you think that 1 is at the top and it's 2 that's covered by that glare!
- thewebdev, on 10/10/2007, -43/+118Let's make this the most dugg down comment in Digg History ---- EVERYONE LICK MY BALLS!
- cosmikdebris, on 10/10/2007, -5/+185Where do I get (9/9)?
- asdfvidkeasfdl, on 10/10/2007, -57/+1(9/9) = 1
Whatever, I don't like math.- LowROI, on 10/10/2007, -2/+49He meant "where do i get one?" Apparently you don't get wit either.
- compwizz, on 10/10/2007, -4/+34Actually, its (9/9)^9. If you notice, all the hours have 3 nines in them. The glare makes it hard to see though.
- faithfreedom, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2Unnecessary headache!
- Fungo, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1I especially liked the 9^(1/2)! + 9/9
You really have to be a geek to get the factorial.- ozydingo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16Well you just need to know what a factorial is. You don't need to be a geek for that.
- VirtualCtor, on 10/10/2007, -7/+6No, you just had to make it past 3rd grade.
- cyclox, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15damn you learned ! in 3rd grade? what school did you go to?
- TheAcclaimed, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Sounds like the school for pompous douchebags.
- bigrat2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Err, what? It's saying (9^(1/2))! which is just 3! .. Not very geeky at all.
- Gunegune, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1For those who would like to know more about factorials please visit the factorial article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factorial
- ozydingo, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13Screw that, where can I get 9?
- jjremy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I'd digg you up, but you're sitting at +9, so I won't.
- ozydingo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Appreciated :-)
- jjremy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I'd digg you up, but you're sitting at +9, so I won't.
- soil, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8As soon as I buy 9999999999999^0, I'll get 999999999^0 for you too!
- asdfvidkeasfdl, on 10/10/2007, -57/+1(9/9) = 1
- IvanB, on 10/10/2007, -0/+33http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1055/1233573378_c48a8d0b54_o.jpg Mirror it, in case it goes down. :)
- p858snake, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17pfft Neowin wont go down.
- NorthKorea, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0o rly
- Akirajds, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0rly
- AriaStar, on 10/10/2007, -16/+9I want that. Where can I get one? I'd put it by my binary ThinkGeek clock.
- idiotech, on 10/10/2007, -13/+6Why? It's stupid - not nerdy - and it has so much bad math (because simplification is a beautiful thing - something any real math geek knows)
- adrianmonk, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Simplification, yeah. The "Who's On First" Abbott and Costello routine would have been a lot simpler and easier to understand if they'd given clearer names to the baseball players, but would it have been as funny?
- bob_the_alien, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10I'm just glad it's not another binary clock or watch, I almost didn't click this link thinking it would be yet another one.
- rcomegys, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Man, really dodged a bullet there, didn't ya?
- bob_the_alien, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1YEP
- rcomegys, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Man, really dodged a bullet there, didn't ya?
- idiotech, on 10/10/2007, -13/+6Why? It's stupid - not nerdy - and it has so much bad math (because simplification is a beautiful thing - something any real math geek knows)
- m3mn0n, on 10/10/2007, -4/+51Math nerds rejoice.
- killerofkiller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+68I'd rather have a clock that tells me the time in radians
- redfox2600, on 10/10/2007, -24/+1But time is merely an illusion in our feeble minded attempt to visualize the fourth dimension.
- killerofkiller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18stop trying to be smart...
- adrianmonk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+43A clock that tells the time in radians? Now you're just being irrational.
- GuitarWizard, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Try to order a pizza with Pi/2 radians of sausage and you'll have a very confused worker on the other end of the line.
- redfox2600, on 10/10/2007, -24/+1But time is merely an illusion in our feeble minded attempt to visualize the fourth dimension.
- killerofkiller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+68I'd rather have a clock that tells me the time in radians
- badassninja, on 10/10/2007, -14/+3To bad based purely on the locations of the hands and the fact that most people were not born yesterday, people will be able to read the time.
- bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6yeah...too bad.
- Jon211, on 10/10/2007, -2/+134Dugg for having infintely recurring 9s in the calculation for 7.
- po43292, on 10/10/2007, -28/+1It will get to 8 one day. .9+.9+.9+.9+.9+.9+.9+...=1
- Tivor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+37Do you even read what you type?
- tehpwnrate, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13.9 + .9 > 1
- po43292, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6i'm from south carolina and such as
- donwilson2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8How does 5 o'clock work?
- asciiforever, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10The factorial operator means take this positive integer and multiply it by each positive integer less than it (roughly). So it's (3 * 2 * 1) - (9/9).
- rodrigorules, on 10/10/2007, -8/+2your wrong , .999... repeating = 1
x = .999..
10x = 9.999..
10x - 1x = 9.999.. -1x (x =0.999..)
9x = 9
x = 1
&
x = .999999999999999999999- cameldung, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You're grammatically wrong.
- tacojohn48, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Looks like I am not the only person who had to suffer through abstract math. (actually it wasn't nearly as hard as dif eq)
- wanzedk, on 10/10/2007, -9/+1No, you can't just declare 10x to be 10x = 9.999, when x=.999. Then 10x is 9.99.
Which means: 10x-1x = 9.99 - 0.999 = 8.991
9x = 8.991.
9/8.991 = 0.999.
x is STILL 0.999 - not 1.- oneoverzero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6yes he can, repeating means it goes on for infinity, i know he didn't make that expressly clear, but learn math.
when you cant differentiate between two numbers, then what separates them?
- oneoverzero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6yes he can, repeating means it goes on for infinity, i know he didn't make that expressly clear, but learn math.
- po43292, on 10/10/2007, -28/+1It will get to 8 one day. .9+.9+.9+.9+.9+.9+.9+...=1
- MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Where can I get one?
- VivaLaNation, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5http://www.cafepress.com/triplenine.2445706
- ip916a4b, on 10/10/2007, -9/+0dugged awsomeness
- ThinkBox, on 10/10/2007, -3/+43http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/lights/59e0/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNkSgcqEgRE
This is a geek clock...- mal5305, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18it's a great conversation piece. except when you have to explain how it works a dozen times a day...
- lowerlogic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Thats why I stopped wearing geeky shirts. Explaining binary for the 10001th time is so un-fun.
- jjremy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4You've only explained binary 9 times?
- UlicBelouve, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I think that's 11. (10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1). Nice try, though.
- jjremy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Actually it's 17. (16, 8, 4, 2, 1)
- lowerlogic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Thats why I stopped wearing geeky shirts. Explaining binary for the 10001th time is so un-fun.
- idiotech, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2wow, THAT IS a geek clock. much better.
- rajid, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1LOL! I saw one at my friend's house a while back and had to get one for myself and also for my father-in-law's (a true geek if there ever was one!). I have to explain it to people every now-and-then, but still love it. (And, of course, since my wife is a geek also, she loves it too!)
- ozydingo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I saw one at a friend's friend's house. After she very proudly told me what it was as if I had no idea, I pointed out that it was off by an hour. She refused to believe me.
- control7, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Indeed, I have one sitting right on my desk next to me right now. =)
- Auraness, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0My math teacher has one of those
- mal5305, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18it's a great conversation piece. except when you have to explain how it works a dozen times a day...
- stevenmu, on 10/10/2007, -14/+42Awsome idea,poor implementation
For e.g. for '3' why have the +9 -9, it's entirely redundant as any geek would know- dslozak, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3Precisely.
- jerk1off, on 10/10/2007, -1/+44Each hour has three nines. That is why.
- ncdave101, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14Uhm, because all the positions have three 9's in various mathematical arrangements?
- Bob042, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Why have the 9th root of 9 to the 9th power? More nines.
- Kunnalingus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Um, it's all redundant. I think the point is that all of them (except for 1) use three nines.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9You can't really see it due to the specular highlight, but I bet that 1 is (9/9)^9, thus using 3 9s. Alternately, they could do 0.999(bar over last 9).
- DarkDragon, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2which one? if your saying one, it's hard to see because of the glare, but it is (9/9)^9
- JoJoMoMo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Here's a better view
http://jitcrunch.cafepress.com/jitcrunch.aspx?bG9hZD1ibGFuayxibGFuazo0OV9GLmpwZ3xsb2FkPUwwLGh0dHA6Ly9pbWFnZXMuY2FmZXByZXNzLmNvbS9pbWFnZS8xMjMzOTI0XzQwMHg0MDAuanBnfHxzY2FsZT1MMCwzMjMsMzIzLFdoaXRlfGNvbXBvc2U9YmxhbmssTDAsQWRkLDc4LDc4fGxvYWQ9bWFzayxibGFuazo0OV9GX21hc2suanBnfGNvbXBvc2U9YmxhbmssbWFzayxNYXNrLDAsMHxjcD1yZXN1bHQsYmxhbmt8c2NhbGU9cmVzdWx0LDAsNDgwLFdoaXRlfGNvbXByZXNzaW9uPTk1fA==
- stevenmu, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1I've noticed the three nines pattern , but should a geek clock favour form over function ?
- kitchung, on 11/03/2007, -0/+14Then it'd be a regular clock w/ 1,2,3,4,...
- BHSPitMonkey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1There are clocks without numerals on them at all. I think most people know how to tell time now.
- turpenine, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I have a swatch with just a line on the face. I am pretty good at telling time.
- SonicAD, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Just don't wear it upside-down...
- turpenine, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I have a swatch with just a line on the face. I am pretty good at telling time.
- macaddct1984, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2What's so great about 9s?
- KalvinCoolEdge, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I agree. I don't get this. Why all 9's?
- calibration, on 10/10/2007, -0/+135+4 = 9
Coincidence?
I THINK NOT!- badmephisto, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2it's not too funny but i still spurted milk with cereals all over my keyboard. thanks
- calibration, on 10/10/2007, -0/+135+4 = 9
- cyclox, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1we all know that 3 is the magic number
- JonasBriden, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1http://www.triplenine.org/
"The members of our Society come from a broad spectrum of society and varied educational backgrounds, representing more than twenty countries. The only common thread is that they have tested at or above the 99.9th percentile on at least one of several standardized adult intelligence tests."- KalvinCoolEdge, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1So if somebody asks for the time you can say "It's a about an i'm an arrogant douchebag that likes to advertise my superior intelligence based on a useless iq test past i'm an arrogant douchebag that likes to advertise my superior intelligence based on a useless iq test?"
/kidding.
- KalvinCoolEdge, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1So if somebody asks for the time you can say "It's a about an i'm an arrogant douchebag that likes to advertise my superior intelligence based on a useless iq test past i'm an arrogant douchebag that likes to advertise my superior intelligence based on a useless iq test?"
- KalvinCoolEdge, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I agree. I don't get this. Why all 9's?
- sobe86, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1They coulda had .9 + .9 + .9 with the .9s all recurring like for 7, or maybe √√√√√√(9*9*9) or 9 / ( (√√(9) * (√√(9) )
Anyone think of any better ones?- sobe86, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Ah crap, I didn't think the second one through, that ones not right. I'm supposed to be doing a maths degree as well. *sigh*
- intp147, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Like a cat, it can be skinned in multiple ways. Here's one: .r9 * 9 - (√9)! (The .r9 is how I write .9999999... when the vinculum isn't available, or I don't know how to produce it.)
- sobe86, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Ah crap, I didn't think the second one through, that ones not right. I'm supposed to be doing a maths degree as well. *sigh*
- ozydingo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2They're all redundant (just like this comment!). Each position could have been written in a single digit. Just because 9-9 is much easier to classify as redundant at first glance to anyone who knows arithmetic, does not make it any less redundant than 9/9 or even √9
- jordn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Thats the only one i understood straight away :(
- Xecuter3, on 10/10/2007, -11/+1omg I got a headache just looking at that. Truly a geek clock.
- antforce, on 11/03/2007, -4/+7+ .999
- joltjake, on 11/03/2007, -4/+48a clock that takes basic algebra skills to figure out the numbers isn't exactly my idea of "the ultimate geek clock"
- cinder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2For 1 it should be -[e^(i*pi)], and 2 it should have been the double integral of (1+cosx)dydx from 0 to pi and 0 to sinx. etc.
Riiight... ;P
- cinder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2For 1 it should be -[e^(i*pi)], and 2 it should have been the double integral of (1+cosx)dydx from 0 to pi and 0 to sinx. etc.
- quattro4444, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1Can anyone figure out where to buy this???
- swisswuff, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5http://www.cafepress.com/triplenine/
- Derrekito, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Thank You.
- swisswuff, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5http://www.cafepress.com/triplenine/
- rxzhang, on 10/10/2007, -15/+5Another Geek Clock:
http://www.linkinn.com/_Very_Unusual_clock- bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15How is that in any way "geeky"
- po43292, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10It's just annoying.
- Lyanto, on 10/10/2007, -9/+3The first thing that came to mind when I saw it was "Sharingan?!?!"
- Derrekito, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1no more naruto for you.
- over9, on 10/10/2007, -9/+2That center pattern just gave me an idea for my tribal tattoo
- SAOSiN, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Shinfo
- Cerpin_Taxt, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Oh Lawdy, that sounds lame.
- blazes816, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Unless you're a part of a tribe, please, do not get a tribal tattoo.
- jim1977, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1What? Is it 1997 again already?
http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/091905/tribal-tattoo.gif
- DeathJux, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1"Nine, nine, nine, fantastic number nine, times any number you can find, it all comes back to nine"
Schoolhouse Rock, I think.- LinusTheLim, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Square One!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q53GmMCqmAM
- LinusTheLim, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Square One!
- pazoned, on 10/10/2007, -2/+43Thats not a sundial!!! (I thought it said "Ultimate GREEK Clock" :(
- braudio, on 10/10/2007, -4/+0you didn't close your brackets...still dugg tho
- JoshHendo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You didn't complete the word "though".
- JoshHendo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1You didn't complete the word "though".
- braudio, on 10/10/2007, -4/+0you didn't close your brackets...still dugg tho
- Phluxed, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1Frankly, I don't find this to be a 'geek' clock. I'm not a math nerd, but I work on computers all day, my hobbies include; Linux, DotA, CS 1.6&Source
- mh348, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Here's somemore clock's
http://www.funnyspace.co.za/content/view/183/1/- tf5bassist, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1okay, now THOSE are awesome! :D
- Skod, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2My Unit Circle clock is much cooler.
http://home.flash.net/~fmco/catalog.html - maximumsteve1, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8this is not ultimate geek, most are quite lame. I wanted to see more creative implementations than just adding or subtracting 9/9. Boo. Needs logarithms, cross products, perhaps integrals, etc.
- xlent, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3+/-
- zman14321, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11I prefer my clocks in binary
- MrMysterious, on 11/03/2007, -3/+37This is not a geek clock, this is a math nerd clock. Don't confuse the species unless of course you get lions and tigers confused or you yell "GET A HOMERUN" at a football game.
- mapkinase, on 11/03/2007, -0/+3That was perfect geek reply
- uncommonwords, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I guess 9 was not complicated enough
- compgeek, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2this clock is not the ultimate geek clock since theoretically anyone could figure out given some basic math knowledge for the ultimate clock take a look at the binary clock. to non geeks a bunch of lights in a pattern meaning ***** all
- SSCrow, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Its more like a Nerd Clock than a Geek clock, imo.
- jakepaulus, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2I don't understand. Maybe any math nerds out there can help. What is the significance of the number nine that it should be used over and over? It's a perfect square...but that's about all I think it has going for it.
- idiotech, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2So stupid. This was not made by a math "geek."
Like, why is the "9" location the square AND root of the number?! So pointless. - secretivecoward, on 10/10/2007, -6/+0bured as lame. Just look at the 3. It was pointless to subtract and add 9 at the same time.
- LoganSerman, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2.9 repeating is mathematically equivalent to 1.
- Puppetfunk, on 10/10/2007, -11/+4Wait When Did They Add "!" Into math?
- StaticThunder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Its called a factorial.
- khellendros1984, on 10/10/2007, -1/+51!=1, 2!=2*1=2,3!=1*2*3=6, etc.
- BHSPitMonkey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10It was discussed sometime after you dropped out of high school.
- nipterink, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7you're supposed to say that number louder than the others too.
- Zackypooh, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13That is a nerd clock, not a geek clock, I am insulted! Buried as inaccurate. =P
- StaticThunder, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3Clocks are supposed to be fast and easy to read. This is as stupid as publishing your novel in binary.
- swisswuff, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6This is a Triple Nine Society clock, http://www.triplenine.org
Here is where you get this stuff: http://www.cafepress.com/triplenine/- botvis, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0d'oh. you beat me to it.
- botvis, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1three nines, because it's from the triple nine society.
sort of like Mensa with standards.
http://www.triplenine.org/- StaticThunder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Would those standards include not being self-important and placing way too much weight on standardized tests of intelligence?
- StaticThunder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I was just asking.
- botvis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0from the fact that you never hear anything about them, I'd have to assume that either they have very few members, or they have better things to do than sit arround in a corner posing their IQ scores.
so yes, probably so.
- thomashauk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Apparently you have to be american since thats the only why you will see most the tests they accept for entry...
- StaticThunder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Would those standards include not being self-important and placing way too much weight on standardized tests of intelligence?
- Skahara, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2Mangekyou Sharingan!
- 12Iceman, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1Dugg for being on Neowin!
- psykiv, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1:reaches for sundial:
Crap, I'm indoors. Nevermind :( - bman784, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Math nerds don't like unsimplified, painfully basic algebra. Unless of course said math nerd is in 6th grade.
- justabum, on 10/10/2007, -7/+19 o'clock does not conform to the pattern. The game seems to be using only 9's and symbols. sqrt(9^2) is 9 true, but uses a 2 to get there. 9 + 9 - 9 or 9 * 9 / 9 would have been more accurate.
- sobe86, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1No, the one for number 9 is 'the ninth root of the ninth power of nine'. Look closer.
- davidmwilliams, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3It's not sqrt(9^2), it's the 9th root of 9^9.
You can see a clearer picture here - http://www.cafepress.com/cp/moredetails.aspx?productNo=2445706&pr=F&showbleed=false&colorNo=0&tab=1&Zoom=2
- nubnub, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5My old math teacher use to have one of these
- nubnub, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1My old math teacher use to have one of these
- NKras, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2This isn't a geek clock, a nerd clock, or any kind of mathy clock. It's just stupid. If a fifth grader has no problem interpreting it, it doesn't cater particularly to math geeks/nerds/anything because it's trivial.
"Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house. " -Lazarus Long - hartley, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I'm just glad it wasn't that 4 column binary clock again.
- krizzle, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Ill be honest, apart from knowing the locations on a clock, I couldnt figure most of these out.
- WaterDragon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2If you're older than about 13, you need to go back and learn basic math again.
....sums, differences, square roots, factorials (!), and a barred (infinite, repeating) decimal.
sq root of 9=3
3! (factorial) = 3X2X1 = 6
.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 etc. approaches 1
....nothing very hard!- mturn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3.9999... does not approach 1, it is 1: 10*(.9999...) - 9 = (.9999...), solve for (.9999...). "nothing very hard!"
- Cybrwolf, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Excuse me, but F**K you! Not everyone had algebra in high school!
- ThrottledU, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0yet another reason the U.S. is behind the rest of the world in regards to the general education of the population
- WaterDragon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2If you're older than about 13, you need to go back and learn basic math again.
- ms292606, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0id like it better if the 7 was 9- 9^(1/2)+9/9, because you on this clock 7 o'clock only truley occurs after the hour hand gets to the "7" marker. I guess my expression wasn't used so it could be more creative..... like it needed that
- Bitwaba, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2.9 repeating = 1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.999...#Proofs
- Bitwaba, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2.9 repeating = 1
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