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  • racer108, on 10/10/2007, -90/+17How about Windows vs. Mac vs. Linux next?
    • masterc, on 10/10/2007, -37/+99Macs for productivity
      Linux for development
      Windows for Solitaire
      • Bloc, on 10/10/2007, -10/+77Windows for games*
        • potp, on 10/10/2007, -34/+75Windows for everything
          Macs for Photoshop.
          Linux for dicking around and watching weird ass porn
        • heystoopid, on 10/10/2007, -15/+12Vista for games that have no sound
          • toxicityj, on 10/10/2007, -13/+31did you forget to install your sound card? yeah, you need that for sound.
          • VPurpmalkV, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3I believe he's commenting on the fact that they abandoned directsound in DX10. A lot of developers are releasing games that work fine in Vista. If you're deaf.
          • Lewie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I couldn't play DVDs in Vista (except with VLC). Nor could I change the permissions on some folders I created.
            *back on XP*
        • rabiddachshund, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11...games like solitaire.
        • raisputin3, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4PS3 or Xbox for games
        • Perigren, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Obviously you've never played PC games the way they were meant to be played. If you have you wouldn't have said the crap that is consoles you would have said a Gaming PC.
      • suprememilo, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3Macs for laptops
        Linux for school machines so we save money
        Windows for everything else
    • heystoopid, on 10/10/2007, -16/+39Vista for zero productivity !
      • Murdats, on 10/10/2007, -19/+6want to tell 2 IT companies I have worked at that?
        • ShrimpCrackers, on 10/10/2007, -10/+6Vista for Zero Productivity after I got BioShock. Damn you BioShock!!! *fists air*
        • andycr512, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Yes, I do. What the heck are the IT companies you mentioned doing installing an OS that is barely beta-quality?
          • TheG2, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3Technically, Linux is constantly beta-grade software. The only OS I could say is full release is OSX.
          • arbulus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2@TheG2
            How exactly do you mean "Linux is constantly beta-grade"? I'm constantly blown away by the things Ubuntu + Compiz Fusion can do. Beats the hell out of anything Vista or Leopard can do, productively or eye-candy-wise.
        • Murdats, on 10/10/2007, -6/+4have you used it as of late? it is no where near beta quality, sp1 was beta quality but maybe you should stop pouring water on your computer to cool it off because you have some hardware issues if its crashing constantly. or maybe you are complaining about something else, for all I know you are repeating something you heard from a friend who read it on a forumn that was on an apple site.
          • tubeblender, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I lol's after reading your first two sentences... "It is no where near beta quality".

            I think it's best to stop right there, and leave it at that, so I can agree with you. After that second sentence, you lost any credibility. We all know Apple people bash Windows constantly, then tell our friends about things we read on an Apple site.

            Paranoid much?
            I realize you owe your job to people that are stupid, and Microsoft, so I don't blame you for being a douche bag. You can't help it.
      • arbulus, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1Linux for everything except most mainstream gaming. (WoW, Quake, and quite a few others do actually work very well on Linux)
        Windows for keeping tightly contained in a Virtual Machine under Linux and only used for absolutely necessary server admin apps, or maybe Adobe Creative Suite.
        Macs for a gilded cage
    • pwnies, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Mirror http://duggmirror.com/offbeat_news/Firefox_v_s_Ope ...
    • firebhaal, on 10/10/2007, -10/+5you linux nerds are just mad you cant play good games, not ***** solitaire
      • parkermauney, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'da dugg that up if it weren't for the term "linux nerds"
      • cyberpope, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I best Solitaire runs under wine.
    • q1006662, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I think that vote has already been settled by the number of times you've been dugg down
    • Chicken2nite, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3In the Beginning was the Command Line, written in 1999 by Neal Stephenson
      http://tinyurl.com/nnn6e
      To sum up, MS-DOS was a 3 speed bicycle, Windows was a moped mod kit, Macs were hermetically sealed expensive stylish cars, Windows 95 was a colossal station wagon, Windows NT was an off road vehicle, Be, Inc were Batmobiles and Linux are Tanks.
      • BestJaxx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Linux is only good for one thing, if that. Work.
  • atdigg, on 10/25/2007, -39/+192Opera even though it has more features than Firefox has a smaller download, explain that... it's funny when I read about Opera's "bloat" and I point out that Opera is with 2MB smaller than Firefox.
    • mcroft, on 10/10/2007, -98/+17Well with Opera beating FF in every [cross platform] benchmark and FF actually being based around the core source for IE v4, Opera is most definitely what I would go for. Plus there isn't an update every 2 to 3 weeks forcing you to install a whole new instance because of a security hole. The only reason I can see that people would use FF is that they love to have sex with open source, or actually genuinely do use extensions. But let's face it, no-one does.
      • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -6/+37Huh? Every firefox user I've ever spoken to uses a ton of extensions. On small random message boards I've visited there is usually a thread where people list their favorite extensions.
      • h4mx0r, on 10/10/2007, -3/+32I have 8 extensions and I actively use 6 of them on a near-daily basis.
      • ivanvanderbyl, on 10/10/2007, -4/+31Just about every web developer uses the FireBug extension, just to name one.
      • Syntaxis, on 10/10/2007, -3/+41Web Developer Toolbar - the best thing since canned beer.
        • KicktheDonkey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Completely agree about WDT. MeasureIt and Colorzilla are great, too.

          But, don't you mean draft beer? Or at least bottled beer? Canned beer sucks.

          I prefer to say "The best thing since ground beef." After all, how hard is it to slice your own bread?
      • Amablue, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11I use Adblock, AIO Gestures, Download Them All, FireFTP, Google Browser Sync, IE Tab, Linkification, Tab Mix Plus, URL Fixer, and I add and remove miscellaneous other ones all the time. And don't forget about grease monkey scripts. I can't live without those. I can't stand using Opera because it's so hard to change the tool bars the way I want them and the gestures to things that are intuitive to me. With AIO Gestures it's easy as pie to change it to what I want.

        • yessuz, on 10/10/2007, -31/+6Omg. lol? Adblock - it's already in OPERA without any extentions (it's called BLOCK CONTENT), Mouse gestures.. since version no 6? and.. all other things...
          OPERA FTW
          • Amablue, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Adblock comes with FF, even though it's technically an extension. AIO Gestures is way easier to customize than Operas. Even though it's an extension, it easily surpasses Opera's built in gestures.
          • mrsteveman1, on 10/16/2007, -12/+3Opera is really annoying.........hey wait a minute are you 2 related?

            Oh yea.........FTW
          • tonycomputerguy, on 10/10/2007, -12/+12Yeah, I'm sorry, go to a page with tons of ads all over it with Opera. Now load up firefox with ad-block. Wow... adblock just automagically gets rid of all those ads, isn't that ***** AWESOME? Adblock auto subscribes you to a constantly updated list of known servers who host ads! You have no idea how much I wanted to use Opera and gave it a serious try, so I forced myself to use it for 3 days... I wanted to make it a week but just couldn't stand it anymore. Opera IS faster than firefox... It's a GREAT browser and is by default about 50,000 times better than I.E. But ya know what? I'll take functionality, ease of use, and customizations over a 2 second decrease in load time ANY day of the week. I've been looking for a plug-in like DownThemAll ever since I first fired up Mosaic 12-15 years ago! OMGWTFBBQ! best thing EVER. I converted an Opera FANATIC with that plug-in ALONE. RSS Ticker? Holy awesome. Just tell me why I'd want a bunch of retarded widgets floating all over the page I'm trying to read, that's all I want to know and was so disappointed when I went through 20 pages of widgets and not a single one of them integrated into the browser the way I wanted them to. Also, what's up with me not being able to move my menu bars around freely? All I get is "Top or Bottom?" in opera. Wow... That's reaaaaaaaaly gay. Customizable + Awesomest extensions evar > faster page loading. Oh, so many "Little things" firefox either does better or I've become too used to. Whats with when I can click on the URL icon and it selects all automatically in FF, but Opera, I gotta right click, then left click clear all... Use something yourself objectively before you laugh at someone because you think something sounds the same (Adblock and block content) and make yourself look like an idiot ***** again. kthxbye.
          • Tippis, on 11/09/2007, -8/+7@tony
            The Opera menus and toolbars are completely customizable. The locations are just placeholders, and you can put the *functionality* wherever you want.
            Also, I have zero ads in my Opera - if you don't, it's because you're too dumb to make it work.
          • cbuddha42, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4@ tony
            I call bull ***** on you using Mosaic 12-15 years ago. Even if you were only 6 and it was only 12 years ago that would make you 18, and after reading your post there is no way I'm buying that your an adult.
        • Sneakydave, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Christ, this was predictable. I honestly dont see why anyone wouldnt use firefox but im not gonna go arguing about it :/

          Each to their own y'know? Theres more important things in life than arguing over a ***** web browser :P
      • Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Ahem -- my extension list.
        1. Aardvark -- web dev tool for quickly edentifying that one pesky tag that's messing you up
        2. All-in-One Gestures -- Ninety different actions done gesturing with the mouse
        3. Download Statusbar
        4. Firebug
        5. Gmail Manager
        6. Google Gears
        7. Google Toolbar
        8. Greasemonkey
        9. Growl
        10. Smart Digg Button
        11. Tab Mix Plus
        12. User agent switcher
        13. Web Develop toolbar

        Yes, I need something this big, and as you can see, I use the extensions.
      • slamtv7, on 10/10/2007, -15/+5I'm blocking you because I don't want to waste anymore time reading your retarded comments.
      • Koedoe, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23Huh? FF is based around IE v4's source code? I thought it started out from Netscape Navigator's source? Please can someone enlighten me...
        • potp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10its not even based on Netscape. even though netscape released the source code the mozilla team ditched it and started from scratch.
        • arbulus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I believe that the original Mozilla Browser was based on the old Netscape, but FF has evolved out of that. (I could be wrong)
          But FF is definitely NOT based on IE4.
        • KicktheDonkey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I believe somebody needs to enlighten the OP.
        • erasedgod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Never mind.
    • terminal157, on 10/22/2007, -7/+113I jumped from Opera to Firefox for the extensions. The degree to which I've been able to fine tune my browsing experience with Firefox is amazing. I'd probably have to say that Opera is the better browser at the core, though. It's definitely faster.
      • Baku, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21I like both Opera and Firefox, but also use FF for the extensions.

        If Opera had the option to "dock" the addons like the del.icio.us plugin rather than having them as psudo-separate programs... I'd probably be using Opera.
      • ZeRux, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Same here, switched to Firefox because of extensions and web development. However history feature in Opera is done hundred million times better than in Firefox, where it's next to useless.
        • volve, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Personally, I can't live without the "previously closed tabs" option in Firefox or the abilitity to remove the X from every single tab, as well as all the Firefox extensions, etc.

          I have always appreciated the "Start Last Session" ability in Opera going way back many versions. I was thrilled when Firefox finally introduced that abilitity.
          • locojones, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Wow, because there's totally not a setting in opera to remove x's on tabs, or the Control-Z function which brings back closed tabs.
    • dolske, on 10/10/2007, -6/+53FF based on the "core source for IE v4"? WTF? Uhm, no.
      • potterboy, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5Netscape 4
      • overlord44, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5I know this isn't true with IE7, but IE 1-6 were all based on Spyglass Mosaic, which was written by Marc Andreesen (among others) while he was at the NCSA. After a patent dispute with the University of Illinois, he left and was one of the founder(among many of the aforementioned others) of Netscape.

        Basically my point was that IE4 and FF probably have more in common than you think.
    • ForkySpoony, on 10/10/2007, -3/+28Its based off Netscape not IE
    • Verven, on 10/22/2007, -8/+78Bloat isn't anything to do with the size of the installer file.
      • Rapax, on 10/22/2007, -3/+63Absolutely true.
        When it's running, the difference is even greater, Opera consumes quite a bit less resources than firefox, even without any 'extensions'.
    • tbyron666, on 10/10/2007, -27/+1I installed Firefox, but Flash did not work no matter how i tried to install it. Opera crashed ALL the time, what´s that all about? Now i´m stuck on IE7... all tho i have no complaints about that. I just would like an alternative.
      • yessuz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3infact, you should know that you MUST have a head to use it before using a pc
      • chrisinsocalif, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Seriously, sounds like you need a new computer or that you bought a discount computer.
      • atdigg, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Opera crashed? I never seen a crash in 3 years even even then I think I was running a Beta version.
      • tubeblender, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Did you restart your computer?
      • tbyron666, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Around 3 weeks ago i reinstalled Windows SP2 to a new HD i bought, with all the PROPER drivers to chipset, audio, network and graphics. But still the new versions of these browsers did not work, maybe some browsers just dont like my machine, or there is something badly wrong with my comp :( Specs: P4 2800 mhz 1gig ram.
    • skyshock1, on 10/10/2007, -16/+5Not to mention that the speeds of those two cars in the picture couldn't be more accurate. Firefox runs like absolute KLUDGE on any platform I've tried it on, ever since version 1.1.

      Opera FTW.
    • epsilona01, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10I miss using Firefox. I still use it for some things, and I use it when Opera can't handle whatever I'm trying to look at. However, I can't use it for Digg. This site is far too ***** up, and it overloads and crashes both Firefox and Opera... Opera just handles it better. Sometimes I'll use Konqueror too. Especially when Opera is frozen because of Digg, and Firefox is frozen because I've had it open for more than an hour. I've been using Safari occasionally, but only when in Windoze. I don't normally browse the net from windows. It's just common sense.

      I do prefer Firefox, especially for some of the extensions I use. Sadly, Firefox 2 is a bloated, memory leaking, piece of *****. I'll still take it over IE. Even though IE7 is faster.
      • silencerar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6IE7 faster than FF2?
      • arbulus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I've come to the conclusion that Digg pretty much ***** with every browser. And the more comments there are in a thread, the worse it is. I don't know what the hell it is, but IE7, FF, Opera, Konqueror, Epiphany, all go ***** here.
      • BlackOp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Try the Opera 9.5 alpha. It's a lot faster for digg, although still not great.
    • gwhardyiv, on 10/22/2007, -1/+47Firefox...Opera...whatever. I think we're missing a good opportunity to unite as we all point our fingers and laugh loudly at Internet Explorer.
    • andycr512, on 10/10/2007, -16/+3Opera may be smaller, but it runs lots slower and starts especially slowly. It also crashes at least 3 times a day for me. I moved from it to firefox because of that.
      • Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Something must be seriously ***** up on your system if Opera runs and starts slower on your system than other browsers. I don't like Opera that much, but it is easily the fastest browser around.
      • Jugalator, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Buried for having a broken install, lol.
      • andycr512, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I should also note that running it on Linux caused it to have very bad IPv6 issues, making it pause for 5 seconds before loading any page.
    • Listor, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8It doesnt matter how big it is, its how you use it..........
    • Chewie67, on 10/10/2007, -8/+14Opera fans hate to hear this, but it still cannot render everything properly. I never have that problem with Firefox.
      • fohf, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14I'm a fan of Opera, but this is absolutely true. a lot of sites aren't rendered correctly when viewed through Opera. But all the other good stuff in it out-weighs that negative for me.
      • TheG2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I've been an Opera user for years now and I used to agree with you, and I always had Firefox as a standby, but recently, things are starting to change and everything is coming up as it should. I think as the web is becoming more standards based Opera is going to be stronger and stronger not only because of its features but because of its efficiency (acid test).
      • picsectionpleez, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1Camino FTW
      • Jugalator, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5True, I prefer Opera over Firefox personally, but I have to give you that, that it's less compatible. Maybe because Firefox has gained a wider usage, because I see many big sites nowadays that have browser detection to support IE and Firefox, but not Opera. My online bank is also supporting Firefox, but not Opera (fortunately they let me in though, just with a warning). Of course, what they should CARE about is supporting standards and they'd get most of the cross browser support for free besides minor special cases, but that would instead break IE, lol. :-p
      • Chewie67, on 11/09/2007, -1/+2Wow. I've got to give you guys credit. After I posted the original comment, I thought for sure I'd be skewered by the Opera crowd. Glad to see that everyone is level headed.
        I was an Opera user for a long time, and I finally gave it up for Firefox. I wish we had the best of both worlds -- Firefox with Opera's speed.
      • revenz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0i love opera, but lke everyone else has already said, not every page renders correctly in opera, so firefox is my backup. opera just has some really nice features, the full page zoom is nice (ie7 now has this), speeddial (a plugin is available for firefox), i prefer how it handles downloads (the tab page i mean, even though theres no 'open containing folder' option, which FF has). but yes we all agree IE pretty much sucks.

        and you cant beat firefox for webdevelopment, firebug is the best tool available for to webdeveloper.
        • cyberpear, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1IE's duplication of the full page zoom is terrible. When zooming, many times, horizontal scrolling becomes necessary. It is quite annoying.
    • drakethegreat, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2Ok chewie67 seems to have no clue what hes talking about but since he says render everything properly that doesn't define wtf hes talking about... Is he talking about specific page or what? The fact of the matter is Opera passes the Acid 2 test and FF does not. Opera's warmup time and rendering time is also shorter then Firefox on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X. So if you like Firefox for extensions thats fine but don't BS people into believe lies in other areas. Zealots in the browser world are no better then the political world if they start lying about the truth...
      • pingwax, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Do you actually use opera? My default browser has been opera for quite a while, but the fact is that quite a few web pages that either don't work as intended or don't work at all with opera. It doesn't matter why they don't work; as the end user I only care that it doesn't work and other browsers do; that's my job...to hold them to the highest standards of usability. I also have regular issues with it properly displaying images, apparently at random. Refreshing the page or reloading the image doesn't fix the problem, but deleting the cache and reloading the page normally does: what a pain in the ass.

        I use opera (hell I was one of the guys who actually PAID to use opera) because it has a ton of features that are fantastic, but it clearly has room for improvement. I think Chewie67's post is fair; your post is the one that smacks of fanboyism.
    • Shananra, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5It doesn't make that much of a difference on the download size or speed. Lets face it, a few milliseconds faster is not faster. If I can't tell the difference then it's the same as far as I'm concerned. What makes a difference for me is the simplicity of the interface on Firefox as opposed to Opera. With Opera I have to dig through configuration options that I'll never use or care about to find what I'm looking for, and in many cases I'll have to go online just to find where that oddball option is. With Firefox, I may still have to go online to find that extension, but the only options that are even there are the ones I care about. If I cant another option, I just add it, and I don't have to look at the crap I'll never use.

      I was an opera user for years before Firefox was even thought of, but as time went on, Opera got bloated. Still faster? Yes, but who cares.
    • GavinZac, on 10/16/2007, -12/+11Firefox's install size is 2MB bigger because Opera is a closed source commerical product which uses a full compliled binary.

      Firefox is based on XUL and gecko, meaning very many of the files are uncompiled (and therefore, uncompressed) XML documents. Of course, both Opera and Firefox run in memory rather than off the hard disk, so footprint is irrelevant.

      God I HATE it when know-nothings try to sound like they know something about programming issues. Bloat, memory leaks, footprint - please do some bloody research before parroting someone else's opinion.
      • TheG2, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Running in memory is irrelevant? Please do shut up.
        • GavinZac, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1"Running in memory is irrelevant? Please do shut up."
          what? i think you've misunderstood me. Footprint on the disc is irrelevant, rather than in RAM, which is important, although its importance is frequently overstated (people with 2GB of RAM complaining that firefox is using 500mb - its DESIGNED to do that, RAM is there to be used not to be bragged about.)
      • Jugalator, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Actually, Opera is smaller if the compressed variants are compared too. Opera 9.5 alpha is less than 4 MB compressed here, and then I'm not even using any fancy algorithm, just zip.
        • GavinZac, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1yes, but firefox will be bigger even when zipped as there are many files, already in ascii text, and it uses duplicating descriptors (i.e., openning and closing tags) rather than the flags and pointers of a compiled source program. the point being, when all of this is loaded to memory, the difference is negligible while firefox remains more flexible and customisable than opera.
    • themastersb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8At least Opera fans and Firefox fans have something in common. They both think IE is the worst.
  • sputnikv, on 10/19/2007, -7/+217firefox without extensions looks hardcore
    • bilgates, on 10/10/2007, -9/+55Opera looks James Bond style..
      But, I still go with Firefox with Extensions. Adblock..
      • myak, on 10/10/2007, -13/+13Opera has a buil-in adblock feature and many others too, you just need to look for them. And the difference between Opera and Firefox with extensions is that the user built addons are not always of the best quality.
        • JigoroKano, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11But does it have an auto-downloading regexp filter extension for said adblock?
          • yessuz, on 10/10/2007, -4/+0What this filter does?
          • credence, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5yessuz: I didn't quite get the english there, but if you're asking what the auto-downloading extension he's referring to does, it basically fetches a list of sites that host ads and blocks content from them, so you don't have to perpetually build up your adblock list like you would in Opera.
          • fak3r, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I can has cheeseburger?
        • Amablue, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14The built in defaults on Opera are not always of the highest quality either.

          At least with firefox I can change damn near anything on it. I've always found that if one extension doesn't do the trick, there are at least 2 others that I can try that do nearly the same thing.
        • svivian, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4"At least with firefox I can change damn near anything on it."
          I bet you can't change your skin in two seconds or add/remove buttons from any toolbar in a few seconds with only one or two clicks.

          And I'm sick of the adblock argument. Opera has adblock and has done since before Firefox existed. And it's not like you really need to update a list of ad filters (which are always many times larger than they should be) every week. My list of about 25 addresses has sufficed for months now.
          • Sneakydave, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You can :/ No idea why you'd want to change your skin every two seconds mind.
          • Amablue, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2True that I can't change my theme in two seconds. But that's not exactly something I change every two minutes. I set it up once and forget about it.

            Toolbars I can change though, just as easily it not easier the Opera.
      • Rocketbird, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Didja see the guy standing next to the car?
      • soapergem, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yeah, I need my extensions. I can't even think of what (development) life would like without Firebug...
    • bushnoh, on 10/22/2007, -2/+20http://xkcd.com/198/
  • controltheweb, on 10/22/2007, -18/+255Browsing with Opera, dugg for IE: Ha! Ha! I'm surfing the internets!
    • bingobongony, on 11/12/2007, -51/+3People far smarter and computer literate than you will EVER be use IE
      • myak, on 11/12/2007, -4/+30It's only because they have to. I haven't met anyone who would be tech savvy and using IE just because they like it.
        • trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10I have, a great programmer on our Robotics team uses and prefers IE, he is great with C and Assembler, admittedly though not as knowledgeable about desktop systems.
        • Murdats, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4I know some people who do programming and web development who use IE7 as their default browser
        • Viper244, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Add me to the list. I'm a software engineer and I don't even have FF even installed. No need to IE7 uses less memory and with IEPro I have everything I need and want. I might be doing some web development on the side soon so I might get FF just for testing purposes only.
    • quomen, on 10/10/2007, -5/+9Oh wow this is classic.. It's how i feel though. I'm using Opera and I love it. I souped up my FF at one point but i've come back to my one and true love.. :D
      • natenovs, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3as long as it makes you feel better.
    • SomeHobo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6The IE one is priceless! Whoever did this has a great sense for the punchline!
    • TheOriginalFox, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I think that is the hardest I have ever laughed at anything I have read on Digg. Dugg!
  • IpHa, on 10/19/2007, -11/+199My Firefox would be like the Humvee in the picture, but with a couple of RPG turrets and after burners.
    • ToadLeg, on 10/10/2007, -9/+6How do you attach an afterburner to a Humvee?
      /iknowitsajoke
    • h4mx0r, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2You need after burners on your humvee?
    • barc0001, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22Afterburners? What, the mileage wasn't bad enough to begin with?
      • walkerdarin2003, on 10/10/2007, -21/+1An RPG is a shoulder fired weapon retard. That is like mounting a 9mm hand gun to your door. Fag
        • andycr512, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Wow. Read the post, stupid. "a couple of RPG turrets AND AFTER BURNERS."

          Learn to read before you start throwing insults around.
        • ToadLeg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Got off HALO Xbox Live long enough to come here and comment? BTW, if you're not in an FPS, RPG stands for "rocket propelled grenade". That means it's a grenade that gets launched by a rocket. There's nothing in the definition about it being shoulder fired. Also, if you're not on Xbox Live, calling someone a retard and a fag is like putting a magnet on the dig down button for your comment.
      • arjie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Oh, but it's all open source, see? So you just make more fuel!
    • H4xirl, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I use lolifox(which,despite the name,is quite good) at home,and is more akin to a regular Jeep than a humvee,I have an mg(adblock plus) and some floodlights(4chan extension) on it though.
      • badjoke, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6A 4chan extension would be more akin to painting the sides of the humvee with cats and hentai.
      • justinx0r, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Rules 1 & 2 fags.
    • Libb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Mine looks like a Humvee with racing stripes (FasterFox, which doesn't really do anything but give the appearance of speed), homing missile launchers (Adblock Plus), F1-style tap button shifters (AIO Mouse Gestures), and a built-in auto-responding text messaging car-phone (Boost for Facebook, auto-poke FTW).

      Oh, and it's covered in pretty blue glass (IE7 skin, embarrassing, I know, but it looks great with the blue tinted glass on my Vista desktop...).
    • erkokite, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3My firefox looks like a web browser.
  • glasnt, on 10/22/2007, -7/+149Opera comes with a license to kill? Since when?
    • tynecastle, on 10/16/2007, -35/+7Licence to kill websites since most dont work with it!
      • lowlywrm, on 10/16/2007, -2/+19Hogwash. There is still the occasional site problem, but they are few and far between. Recently, more often that Firefox glitches (as compared to IE) and Opera displays correctly. I can't truly blame either of them, though, because in most cases they're following the WC3 standards where IE isn't.

        I'll take the occasional oddity in exchange for fewer gaping wide security holes any day.
      • yessuz, on 10/16/2007, -2/+4Omg.. try acid test on your ff?
        • potp, on 10/16/2007, -7/+3pointless test is pointless
          • yessuz, on 11/09/2007, -4/+1omg. lol? Pointless test?
            The test which uses ALL the standarts is pointless?? Maybe the browsers which cannot pass the test are worthless?
            Even IE7 passes that.
      • ZeRux, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Have you ever actually used Opera or you're just trolling around?
      • Richggs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2What sites, name and shame. The only one ive ever had problems with is frankklepacki.com apart from that its standards complient and thats all i want from a browser - thats a developers perspective.
    • amc178, on 10/10/2007, -0/+29since last update, didn't you read the "new in this version" bit
    • arbulus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3License to kill ads
    • hybam, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Since it was redesigned by Chuck Norris.
    • SIGINT, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Since it went free.
  • backwoodsbob, on 10/22/2007, -6/+116Here's a question. I have noticed a severe slow down loading Digg pages, of late, with Firefox. As an experiment I switched to Opera and it loads much faster; about 1/3 the time. Anyone else notice this? I haven't noticed the difference with any of the other sites I usually visit.(o/s =Linux)
    • bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -52/+8yeah...firefox sucks.
    • 0ceanic, on 10/22/2007, -2/+41opera has a very optimized rendering structure. it is capable of drawing the page element by element without needing to wait for the entire structure. it supports a true zoom. (for example opera can zoom a flash movie along with the page. ie7 can also do that, firefox wont until 3.)

      excellent renderer. mobile phones, wii, new adobe reader, all use opera's drawing engine.
    • lowlywrm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+27I wouldn't say Firefox sucks, but I have noticed a speed issue. I have also noticed that, if I leave it up over the course of a few days, it tends to use up resources to the point that it slogs my system down. Shutting Firefox down and reopening it speeds things up again.
      • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8Opera had the exact same problem when I used to use it. That was probably a version or two ago, though, they might've improved it.
      • Myonosken, on 10/10/2007, -9/+5Why would you use it over a few days? Heard of an off switch?
      • frazw, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Yeah firefox has a few memory leaks. I think version 3 has addressed at least some of them if not all
      • NoDude, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Sounds like either pipelining limitations or overlay drawing delays, both of which can be remedied through about:config
      • picsectionpleez, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I will: Firefox sucks on Mac OS X

        I love the FF community but like I said- not on Mac
    • HigherLogic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Firefox and Opera render pages entirely different. You can though, if you're used to how Firefox loads page, mimic that in Opera (though why would need to). Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Browsing. Play with the Loading section. I've actually found Opera's caching to be almost too powerful at times. Have had to reduce it a bit.
      • crushfan, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1Too powerful that after uninstalling, it leaves around 1 GB data (cache, RSS subscriptions, email, etc.) -- at least for me, after using it for four or five months.
    • crunchyeyeball, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I must admit, I've also been having major problems with FF on Digg lately, although I'm putting it down to Flash rendering. I've definitely noticed that a particular recent group of flash ads which have been appearing on Digg in particular (the Intel ones I think - with an image of a safe and some sound effects) seem to cause FF to freeze, and consume all available CPU. If I close that particular tab (can be a bit of a struggle), everything recovers OK, and even the other Digg tabs (without this particular ad) seem to recover.
      • DokGonzo, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Ever heard of Adblock?
        • crunchyeyeball, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yes, but I shouldn't have to install an additional plugin to stop the browser freezing, and if it IS a flash issue, it's not only ads that rely on flash.
        • ryodoan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2True, but 95% of flash on the internet is because of ads.

          And if you dont want to use plugins, why not switch to opera?
        • neodorian, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yeah, maybe you're right, but either way it takes less than a minute of your time and is very effective at blocking ads. I didn't even know what you were talking about at first because digg has no ads for me.
        • thefinger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I did this to stop flash wholesale in FF ... found every instance of NPSWF32.dll on the system and renamed it. It's not a pretty solution. And you'll still see a nag to reinstall Flash, but it's something I can live with.

          Also, for anyone having a copy-paste problem when trying to comment on Digg, do a CTRL+T, then close the new tab with CTRL+W. That fixed the clipboard problem, though it always comes back whenever I flip on js to comment here.

          I find that extensions like AdBlock and NoScript actually slow down browsing overall. Speed's the thing I'm after most, so I leave them out and keep javascript off, except for places like this one.
    • Markpdotcom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+29Digg is awful in firefox! If I try to open several pages from diggs "live bookmark" in tabs and its so slow its unusable! I've only had this problem since the new comments system was added to Digg. Rubbish!
      • crushfan, on 10/22/2007, -0/+14For me, when loading a Digg page and submitting comments, it freezes sometimes for 3 or 5 seconds -- I can't do anything (changing current tab, minimizing, etc.) when it happens. I really don't know what causes this. Any idea? (On Windows XP)
      • Feldforschung, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2it's caused by ff's creepy javascript engine.
      • NinjaBoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4When i just dugg you up it froze for a good 3 seconds.
    • potp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Firefox 3 alpha doesnt have that problem. the new gecko engine is doing might well.
    • derjames, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Read this thread at Ubuntu forums regarding this problem...

      http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=ad3fe2722 ...

    • skyshock1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14That's because Opera's rendering engine is hands down superior to Gecko.
    • BruteForce411, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1My browser hangs on Digg's frontpage as it waits for the "Top 10 in All Topics" to load.
    • arbiterxero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yeah I started having that problem a few weeks ago, it was nuts!

      Then I turned on the Flashblock.

      it's all the damn animated flash, when you get like 6 animated ads on a bloody page, it ruins my reading experience. I WANT to allow them to show their ads, but when they push the limit..... well flashblock is now my fav plugin.
    • carbonetc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1My problem is that Digg makes Firefox hang for about 5 seconds every time it hits "pagead2.googlesyndication.com" (I think that's the URL, now that I want it to happen it won't). Otherwise it's fine. I wish I could figure out how to prevent it. Ad blockers don't help.
  • Nidy1, on 10/10/2007, -2/+266At least it's unbiased...
  • Bricks, on 10/19/2007, -10/+10Howabout a browser with an automatic digg mirror plugin?
  • xipietotec, on 10/10/2007, -48/+9Regards to Opera and Firefox (re backwoodsbob and atdigg): Opera is coded in C, so yes it is largely faster than Firefox. It also uses the webkit engine which is faster at rendering...than at least Firefox's Mozilla engine. If you use linux and like Firefox/Mozilla, but don't use alot of extensions: Use Epiphany.

    Opera has more features than the default firefox, is smaller, and faster because its coded in C, whereas Firefox is Java. However Opera actually doesn't handle Java as well as Firefox does, but it is better at rendering XHTML/CSS. Firefox is open source and likely to get better as well, Opera is proprietary and much less extensible.

    In short, in Opera you *must* do things the Opera way. In Firefox, if you don't like the way it does something, there's probably an extension to fiddle with it. So on a whole I'd recommend Opera if you have no extensions installed in Firefox, and you are not a web developer. Otherwise, Firefox.
    • bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -34/+2if you are a web developer and develop for Firefox, you are likely to cause your page to break for 90% of your users
      • afx1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20that's quite the statistic you pulled out of your ass, mr. balmer!
      • Karmavs, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2So… If i create my site specifically for firefox (the browser used by 35% of surfers (only 1% below IE6, and well above IE7)) 26% of firefox users won't be able to use it. It seems so clear now. :-|

        But I can't code for IE7, can I? 80% of my users won't be able to use it! Nor for IE6! - i can hardly have three quarters of my users on a broken site!

        This is what standards are for. Firefox, Opera, Safari (though its Javascript implementation isn't great. It's CSS support is second to none), and most other browsers, follow them closely. I don't need to create a website for each browser. While there may be small tweaks needed for each, standards-complient browsers will not need a site made specifically for them.

        Most sites, however, will need to do an entirely separate stylesheet for both IE7 & IE6. (including digg)
      • Pushkin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Code for FF and add workarounds for IE is a lot more satisfying than coding for IE and have it break all other browsers or version of the same browser
      • tubeblender, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Crawl back in your hole.
    • amadeusdemarzi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18ummmm, since when does opera use the webkit rendering engine?
    • theatrus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+44Firefox is not written in Java...

      It makes heavy use of JavaScript and XUL, but JavaScript is in no way Java. The core of Firefox is C++/C.
    • afx1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4but the ugly default form buttons...and why alt-d doesn't set the focus on the address bar (but uses f8 instead) i'll never understand. and firefox is not coded in java. otherwise it would be a java app and not a native app. both opera and firefox are coded in C (FF in C++). i think you're referring to XUL using javascript. java != javascript.

      opera is most likely faster due to finer tuning and the fact that it's UI is not run via a realtime interpreted language (javascript) like FF is. but I could be wrong about this so correct me if I am.
    • potifar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Are you serious or is that a bad attempt at humor? Opera is coded in C++ and uses its own rendering engine (Presto). Firefox is not written in Java, it uses C++ in the rendering engine as far as I know (Gecko) and XUL/JavaScript for the UI.
    • rootstyle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12xipietotec wins the most ignorant attempt at a technical comment ever award.
      Kudos to you sir, I do hope people appreciate your level of expertise on some deep reaching corners of the internet.
    • picsectionpleez, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Are you telling me Firefox is a Java app? Fail.
    • ktxxx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0If Firefox is a java app...i am going to throw away my c books and learn java...in other words. Kill myself.
  • yomamaisfat, on 11/05/2007, -15/+363Someone just learned to use paint. Let's get them on the Digg front page.
    • jargon64, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1Heh yea, that thought went through my mind as well. Was expecting something a little wittier though.
    • ZeRux, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Not just paint dude, they use watermarks as well! It's sooo cool!
    • billy1380, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3bitter bitter bitter
    • RemuS02, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1You are using IE, aren't you? Shame on you!

      Opera FTW :)
  • chingy1788, on 10/10/2007, -11/+2I wonder where Ice Weasel would look like
    sure it is also based on the same engine Firefox is based on
    but it sucks
    it crashes every 5 mins, any time a flash animation or something comes up it crashes (this is at Uni, Linux computers, they had firefox before but removed it from Linux)

    Some people just say screw it, and start VMWare and load XP/2000 up to use Firefox there (though it is very slow)

    I bet its would be a small wagon pulled by guinea pigs
    • Vich, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10You fool, Ice Weasel IS Firefox. Don't you get it?
      Fire->Ice
      Fox->Weasel
      It's just rebranded over rights issues
      • trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Actually it does have a few differences, the one that chingy is noticing is that it automatically installs gnash for flash, and therefore crashes pretty much whenever a page with flash is loaded.
      • chingy1788, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1It crashes on Digg, on Digg
        I can't enjoy Digg at Uni...
        • Karmavs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Disable flash in its preferences.
          As Trogdoor said, it installs gnash as the default flash plugin (due to gnash not being proprietary) - and it breaks for almost all flash content - Including the flash ads displayed on the top right of story pages.
  • xipietotec, on 10/10/2007, -18/+10Appologes to my own post: Opera does not use webkit, they use their own proprietary Presto Engine
    • trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14And pretty much everything else you said was wrong too. Seriously, Firefox is written in Java? What part of your ass did you pull that from?
  • ani625, on 10/10/2007, -14/+3Firefox ftw!
  • vault, on 10/10/2007, -18/+7http://www.caminobrowser.org
  • amsterdamordeth, on 10/10/2007, -13/+8Although Firefox is horrible about memory consumption especially with large XML files or multiple tabs, I do prefer it myself because of the ease I can move profiles to other machines, or carry over profiles after a system format. Nothing sucks worse about IE than it's lack of standards of coding, and it's complete failure to make exporting of autocomplete/saved forms/cookies/cache easy. IE stores that crap everywhere.

    Most web designers that have done work for me, say that when they write a specific code, Firefox handles it according to standards, and IE handles it, the way Billy boy thinks it should. Opera isn't that bad really, but it lacks some very basic infrastructure. I don't know if this is still an issue, but as of last year, Opera couldn't even handle most transparent png images.

    • HigherLogic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6" I do prefer it myself because of the ease I can move profiles to other machines, or carry over profiles after a system format"
      Check out the alpha build of Opera 9.5, they're integrating Synchronization, that will allow you to bring your "profile" with you anywhere.
      And Opera can handle PNG as well.
      • cyberoidx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2LOL... copy the damn profile folder (without cache4)... works like a charm
    • tamster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9"I don't know if this is still an issue, but as of last year, Opera couldn't even handle most transparent png images."
      What? Opera supports PNG alpha transparency since version 6 (released in 2001).
      http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngstatus.html#brows ...
  • insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -23/+3Opera's picture was way off. http://www.varac.ca/Drivers/Images/Celovsky_Yugo.j ...
    It means well, but unfortunately everything it displays looks like garbage.
    The rest were spot on.
    • Tippis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Maybe you should upgrade from v4.0?
      • insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -10/+1Maybe you should shut your whorish mouth!
        • yessuz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0you have been PWNT
        • insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1How? My original comment is still correct.
          • Tippis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yes it is... if you're using 4.0.
            If not, then I assume you're comparing its rendering with Lynx, and I would suggest you try out View->Style->Nostalgia.
          • cyberoidx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Coool!

            Digg loads so much FASTER NOW! :D
  • fatadamblog, on 10/10/2007, -15/+5I'm using.....visit myconfinedspace.com for unwatermarked version
  • Treshnell, on 10/10/2007, -23/+5Firefox stopped being cool once it hit mainstream :(
    • insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -14/+4And opera was never cool.
      • yessuz, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3yeah... It never was.. it is. allways
    • rootstyle, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Yes because software is only good when its underground...? While I agree the statement is true for websites, specifically social news sites, I don't think the same applies to software :p
      • ffleming, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Did you notice that thing flying way over your head? It was the joke.
      • Treshnell, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Once it becomes standard it's no longer cool.
    • BabaRamDass, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Firefox became uncool when they renamed it from Phoenix to Firebird, and really uncool when they renamed it from Firebird to Firefox. I'm still pissed at the name change.

      (Do I need to put a sarcasm tag here?)
  • Stryder81, on 10/10/2007, -9/+17lol funny analogy.

    I have used all, Went from Firefox then to Opera and stuck with that for a good while.

    I've been using Safari for the past few months ( nothing against the others, I just mac'd my comp out :-) )

    But I'd pick Opera ( even though some sites are buggy with it )
    • insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -13/+9"But I'd pick Opera ( even though some sites are buggy with it )"
      A statement like that could only come from an Apple user.
      • ripdog, on 10/10/2007, -7/+6What, we like things, on the most part, to be much better, and will put up with a few small disadvantages to get this better experience? Yep, that sounds about right.
        • insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Better experience? Web pages don't work correctly. How is that a better experience? It's a web browser!
      • staraffinity, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3What do you mean? I use Apple's stuff and don't think I see your point here.
  • xXMetalJesusXx, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3I rotate between Opera, Firefox, Safari and Seamonkey (hey now....it has a built in IRC client...lol)

    Dugg because my bro is a IE tool...
    • MasterChi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Opera has a built in IRC client so Seamonkey (?) is not needed :)
      • xXMetalJesusXx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Seriously!

        I just started to use Opera a while back, and I haven't really givin it too much attension. I'm sooo going to delete that POS seamonkey...lol
  • christhechris, on 10/10/2007, -14/+2Hey, where's Safari? Should be like a F-18 or something...lol or not
    • potifar, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12More like the VW New Beetle. The chicks think it looks cute, but it can't do much.
    • Tippis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Sounds about right. A lot of noise, and completely useless on the highway.
  • wolfie8914, on 10/22/2007, -3/+41The Internet Explorer caption honestly made me laugh out loud and now everybody in the room in looking at me...
  • Richandler, on 10/17/2007, -6/+30Wait so if you use Firefox you're either a little girl or a jarhead?
    Since I just Opera I guess that makes me James Bond.
  • mechcon, on 10/30/2007, -14/+3Safari for the win :P
  • 0ceanic, on 10/25/2007, -6/+23opera has the ability to change the colors of any skin.
    it renders everything fast. (sony, nintendo, and adobe all use opera's presto rendering engine)
    it handles bit torrent links natively.
    i never have to click on a back button, or a forward button, or a new tab button, a close button, or a refresh button.
    and firefox doesnt zoom shockwave games, or flash movies. (hell even ie7 does that)
    and i never see an ad.
    • SPThom, on 10/10/2007, -13/+3Opera can be fast, I'll give you that.
      But back button? Forward, new tab, close, refesh? Guess what buddy... I run Firefox/Camino and I have keyboard shortcuts too. :P
      I've... never had a need to zoom sw/flash... what do you mean, like scaling it with text size?
      Running Firefox w/ Adblock, or Camino out of the box, no ads here either.
      Skins? I don't give a damn about skins. Any browser that thinks its skins are anywhere near as important as the content it displays needs to get off its pedestal. Skins are worthless.
      And I guess the BitTorrent bit is nice, but personally, I wouldn't want to run BT without having access to TOR and SafePeer and etc.
      So... If you're trying to sway me to Opera, you've given me real reason to. Firefox's memory footprint and its damn-slow popups are my only gripes with the browser, and that's not enough to push me away.
      • HigherLogic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Hit the Z button in Firefox. What does it do for you? Now hit the X button (assuming you've just hit the back button and have a page in front of you). It's one of my favorite features, being able to go back and forth with Z/X.
        He's not talking about scaling text, Opera handles zooming in like a PDF or image, not just resizing of text.
        Adblock isn't "out of the box," you have to download it, no? Opera has built-in ad blocking. Nothing to download.
        I don't either, using the default skin (but set on Windows Native).
        Maybe he wasn't trying to sway you, just telling you it was better :)
        • Amablue, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1FF comes with Adblock. I don't think I'd use Z/X for Prev/Next, but I do like using mouse gestures, which I can do in Firefox much easier than in Opera (opera comes with it preinstalled, but the AIO Gestures extension works so much better than Opera's gestures)
      • CLShortFuse, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Keyboard shortcuts!? Pffft! Mouse shortcuts.
      • svivian, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Left click while holding right click = back [and vice versa] - super fast too, no realoding of pages I already loaded a few seconds ago
        Right click + scroll wheel = cycle through tabs
      • brotherfranciz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1About the buttons: I think 0ceanic was referring to mouse gestures, not shortcuts...
        • 0ceanic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1i was, in fact i have one clickable button in my opera interface

          bookmarks.
    • HigherLogic, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Don't forget true MDI support. Call me when Firefox can do this:

      http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6971/operajk0.p ...
      • Karmavs, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1what the hell is the point of that? - 'YAY, NOW I CAN WASTE SCREEN SPACE EVEN MORE - AND ESCHEW INTERFACE CONVETIONS WITHOUT ANY BENEFITS!' - Open four windows in firefox. You can put the windows wherever you want, and you can access all of them in the TASKBAR. It's kind of like a tab bar, but at the bottom of the screen.
      • ucg1, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7"you can access all of them in the TASKBAR. It's kind of like a tab bar, but at the bottom of the screen."

        Dumbass, not everyone uses Windows. And not everyone puts their taskbar/dock/application picker at the bottom of the screen.
    • ucg1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I do like the MDI support in Opera. My favorite Opera feature is the fast forward button.

      But still I use Firefox.
  • nkm82, on 10/10/2007, -15/+6Safari.
  • seiha, on 10/10/2007, -11/+7more like firefox is a slow vehicle with extensions. opera ftmfw
  • HollowMarkeD, on 10/10/2007, -0/+32Very accurate picture :) I use Opera for casual surfing as its quicker and the hand gestures, buttons etc make browsing a lot more streamlined, but Firefox for work since it has lots of add-ons I can't do without (including StumbleUpon). I usually have both open on my desktop. As for IE, why bother, every time I use it I get virus alerts popping up.
  • lynx77, on 10/10/2007, -17/+7If IE is horse drawn carriage FF is a donkey with a dodgey leg pilled high with crap that the owner wants to have but weighs him down so much its bound to collapse and die and will need to refresh and get a new one.
    • Spatan007, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3And while the donkey stumbles onward the carriage is attacked by intruders and the person riding inside has to restart their whole lives with all thier money and personal information taken by those robbers.
  • trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -13/+3Not funny. At all.
  • reubencm, on 10/30/2007, -4/+11safari would be good, except its runs away and hides when it sees something transparent
    • pennpaper, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2how can you see something transparent?
      • Mike89, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Based on that logic, do you always walk into glass doors?
        • svivian, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3But they're not transparent, not 100%. That's like saying paper is transparent - it is, but the transparency is very low.
          I think that's the most geeky thing I've ever posted
        • reubencm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1well you just agreed that something is transparent even if it is not 100% transparent, therefore some transparent things can be seen according to that logic.
  • lee85il, on 10/22/2007, -3/+34HA HA, I'm using the internet
  • fezzasus, on 10/10/2007, -6/+15didn't "opera" crash (in casino royal) after a few minutes?
    • fly21, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2Opera may be crash but Bond always live ;-)
    • brotherfranciz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2AHAHAHA... wait... it all makes sense now: Firefox eats up memory like the Hummer eats up petrol!
  • quii, on 10/22/2007, -3/+41James bond would use Lynx. Fact
    • AlmostEvil, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6And Jason Bourne would use elinks.
      • credence, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19And Chuck Norris doesn't use either. He uses IE4 and makes it secure by force of will alone.

        Yes, go ahead and bury. I've just gone too long w/o a Chuck Norris-ism.
        • drachemorder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7No, Chuck Norris telnets to port 80. Without using a computer.
    • ggarenn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1i see what you did there...
  • dutchee, on 10/10/2007, -13/+15I prefer Safari (3.0.3.) because it recognizes color profiles (e.g. adobe rgb). It means pictures will show as they were meant.
  • ffleming, on 10/10/2007, -6/+38Hey, I have a great idea! Let's argue about browsers on the internet, as if anyone will ever give a rat's ass what some internet nerd thinks is the best way to look at a web page. It can't go wrong, and I'm sure the discussion will be well informed, relevant, and interesting.
    • brotherfranciz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2But just out of interest, which web browser do you use?

      *Crosses finger and hopes there is a response, so that the point is proven that everyone is a fan of a particular browser...*
  • rolfv, on 10/10/2007, -13/+7Say what you want but I like IE7 with IE7pro :(
    • natenovs, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2hear hear!
    • Viper244, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I second that. With IEPro IE does everything FF can and more and still uses less memory. Sorry I don't want a memory hog application that has memory leaks when I can use one that does what I want it to do and still uses less memory. I'm sure I'll get dugg down by people who haven't even tried it but I don't care.
    • CATSCEO, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Then change the horse and buggy to a model T.
  • jdm2104, on 10/10/2007, -8/+4I prefer Flock.
    • kahrytan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Flock is bloated and runs slower then IE or Firefox.
      • Karmavs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6*than IE or Firefox. Then refers to time. Than compares two things.
    • kamikaze87, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2I think the word you were looking for was "*****"
  • KnightMareInc, on 10/10/2007, -7/+13that wasnt funny or clever at all.
  • bootstrap, on 10/10/2007, -12/+4When I reached the Opera pic (bond) I kinda felt like it was a "opera's better then everything else crap" but then I saw IE and it was very funny :D SO digged for IE pic but I'm willing to bet that whoever made this is an opera user and I only heart Firefox!
  • 44magnum, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4K-Meleon, FTW :P
    • dosware, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Yeah- it's a Mozilla browser tuned only for Windows and so renders very fast. People fail to realize FF is developed to be cross-platform- and so is not a speed demon.
      • Dongvid, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I prefer my cross-platform, speed-demon, Opera.
  • chrisinsocalif, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Chris Hansen doesn't like me using Firefox with NO extensions.
  • WoollyMittens, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25Safari would be like the first picture, but with a land-rover and without the guns. Also, giraffes and lions.
  • axisnate02, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9I used to be a diehard firefox user... until I started having this problem where if I opened the page and tried to type in a web address or something in google the browser would instantly crash everytime. So now I use Opera... and I like it alot.
  • ExiL3, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9Opera is great, and whats great is that if you do find a page that have compability problems just enable opera to emulate Firefox or IE! This way the page thinks the browser is FF or IE, and shows the correct content. Opera is also much faster than FF, oh and did I mention it is Norwegian!? :D
    • cliquee, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1Opera is than more like an emulator than a browser...
      • ExiL3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1no why should it be? It is just more advanced than FF or IE! Think about it, it is still it's own Browser, BUT if you do find a site where you encounter compability problems, Opera let's you choose to mask it as IE or FF...

        Actually FF has a plugin that does a similar thing, called IEtab I think. But not a "OperaTab"... like with many other things Opera have lots of stuff included in the original package and not as addons ;)
      • barbapapa78, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0It does not emulate, it only changes the User-Agent string. This is often good enough because sites serve bad content because they think Opera need different code when in fact it works perfectly fine without such tweaks.
    • Karmavs, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Er, no it doesn't. Unless the maker of the web page is actively detecting Opera users and then intentionally screwing their pages up (or just blocking them) it doesn't do a thing. And if the developer of the page is blocking Opera users, there's probably a reason (IE: it doesn't work properly on Opera)
      • w00tfest99, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Incorrect, there are lots of prominent sites that auto-detect opera and adjust the content even though it works perfectly fine in Opera. maps.live.com and www.gmail.com are two big ones.
      • arjie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Actually, some sites auto-detect Firefox and then adjust for that browser. Sometimes those adjustments work for other browsers too, so spoofing Firefox could work.
      • ExiL3, on 10/15/2007, -0/+2Well, I have tested this out on many sites. F.ex a huge simcity4 site called Simtropolis.com shows compability problems with Opera in its forum section. All I had to do to make it work was right click on a page, go "edit site preferences", "network", and on the bottom there is a tab that lets you choose between the options; "identify as Opera", "Identify as FF", "Identify as IE", "Mask as FF" or "mask as IE".... replying and adding links in the forums section now works just as it would with IE or FF! :)

        ...oh yeah, btw I masked it as IE ;)
    • thefinger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Go Norway go!!!!
  • fly21, on 10/10/2007, -6/+12Opera most impressive from all
  • Segphault1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I don't get it, where's Epiphany? I would say Epiphany is like Firefox but simpler, and it fits into its surroundings easy.
  • chsbrgr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I use both FF2 and Opera9 regularly on the same desktop. Opera usually seems quicker to me but FF gets a thumbs-up for customization with extensions for just about anything you could want. As far as IE goes ... I'd rather telnet to port 80.
  • yessuz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3and... opera has plenty of widgets.
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