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Beer experts: 137-year-old brew tastes “absolutely amazing”

telegraphindia.com — The recently-discovered cache of 1869 ale should have been undrinkable, given the conventional brewing wisdom that even the best beers are supposed to last no more than a couple of decades. Beer experts say the brew tastes “absolutely amazing”. The Victorian beer was part of a cache of 250 vintage bottles found in the vaults of White Shield.

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  • raabco, on 10/12/2007, -18/+45decades?

    I generally drink really good beer, and any beer more than 8-12 months old is basically undrinkable (unless you're desperate)

    I like my weed skunky, not my beer.

    Maybe the trick with that skunky beer is to let it age for another 136.5 years...

    • PatrickFisher, on 10/12/2007, -49/+65Don't read too much into this... The British don't know what a good beer tastes like.
    • Philodox, on 10/12/2007, -12/+46You might want to qualify that by stating what nation you're from.
    • cogen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28I don't know, I've had Quad Ale (from Weyerbacher) aged for about a year, and it was delicious. I think that some of the higher alcohol content beers are suitable to age.
    • aeiou, on 10/12/2007, -23/+85"Don't read too much into this... The British don't know what a good beer tastes like."

      And Americans do?
    • PatrickFisher, on 10/12/2007, -7/+42@aeiou
      I'm not american. But keep guessing!

      Or, I suppose, If you didn't feel like guessing, you could look at my profile.
    • Pilot85, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You have to store it like a wine to keep it that long, it seems.
    • wilk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10@PatrickFisher
      Sometimes, they even drink "warm ones".
    • Gizza, on 10/12/2007, -24/+2The British drink their beer warm. Anyone who can do that would probably drink anything.
    • crazybrit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@raabco:
      Believing what we hear in cartoons is fun! While we're on the topic, don't you hate black people?

      I kid, but seriously... no one in Britain drinks warm beer.
    • aeiou, on 10/12/2007, -20/+51"
      I'm not american. But keep guessing!

      Or, I suppose, If you didn't feel like guessing, you could look at my profile."

      Ha, You're Canadian, so yes, technically you are an american, aren't you?
    • rhesuspieces00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Do you drink your beer from a can? You have no idea what you are talking about. I can think of LOTS of beers that age well to 4+ years. Prime examples: Alaskan Smoked Porter, and virtually any Belgian-style ale you come across.

      Ideally, you keep the beer stored vertically, away from light, at around 56° F. The more you can avoid moving the beer, and temperature fluctuations, the better.
    • brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+35"I generally drink really good beer, and any beer more than 8-12 months old is basically undrinkable (unless you're desperate)

      I like my weed skunky, not my beer.

      Maybe the trick with that skunky beer is to let it age for another 136.5 years..."

      Skunky beer is a result of light exposure and temperature, not age. While it's true that most commercially-produced beer lasts 8-12 months at the most, this is because it is filtered. An unfiltered, bottle-conditioned beer with a good yeast cake on the bottom will improve with age like wine, and the heavier brews will last the longest.

      I'm a brewer, and I'm going to be making an imperial stout soon. The fermentation/conditioning alone is going to take a year before it is ready to bottle since it's an extremely heavy recipe (I hope to get over 10% abv when I'm done).
    • glock22ownr, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Wow! This ***** is great! I wish I could freeze it, and make ice blocks out of it, and then skate on it! Then, in the spring, melt it down and drink it!
    • raid517, on 10/12/2007, -17/+35"Don't read too much into this... The British don't know what a good beer tastes like."

      Lol, what total crap. I guess 1200 years worth of experience in brewing some of the finest ales known to man most count for nothing then, huh?

      We can knock the spots off anything most Yanks (and most Euros) think of as 'beer.' - which is usually just bottled piss water lager.

      Britain is the home of real ale. (And the recognized cultural center of the real ale society) So get your facts straight before you start spouting crap like that.

      WTF does a Canadian know about real beer anyway? Why not just go crack open your cheap ass lager and leave to good stuff to the rest of us?
    • brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Hey raabco, would you mind telling us what you think a "really good beer" is?

      "We can knock the spots off anything most Yanks (and most Euros) think of as 'beer.' - which is usually just bottled piss water lager."

      There's more to American Beer than just pilsener clones. We have some kickass ales of our own. Our homebrew revolution took off a few decades ago, spawning some really excellent micro and craft brewers
    • schroduggity, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Alaskan Smoked Porter is damn good it tastes like a campfire smells. i drink it all the time. alaskan is a pretty big brewing company and they make a few good ales, and pales, and ESB and a good oatmeal stout. but I prefer the microbrews up here (i'm from alaska). and my neighbor brews beer too.

      canadian domestic beer is just as bad as american domestic beer.

      only the white trash and ignorant drink domestic beer in the Americas. people who appreciate beer mostly drink microbrew.
    • brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17"only the white trash and ignorant drink domestic beer in the Americas. people who appreciate beer mostly drink microbrew."

      Here here!

      *raises glass filled with my homemade IPA*

      ahhhh....It's like a hop vine exploded in my face.
    • raid517, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"The British drink their beer warm. Anyone who can do that would probably drink anything."

      I'm a Brit pal and I have never drank a warm beer in my life, nor would I know where to get one.

      Maybe in the 19th century they might have drank warm beer I don't know - but as far as I know that could be a myth too - or maybe before the says of refrigeration - but in the 39 years I have been on this Earth I have never seen, or heard of a single instance of anyone drinking or selling warm beer anywhere.

      Anyway the only one likely to be drinking 'anything' (given that we have a good idea of what 'anything' might be) is you pal - as I'm quite sure you already do regularly anyway.
    • rhesuspieces00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I'm also from Alaska, but I have to stand up for the Canucks. Canada makes some beers every bit as nasty as Coors or Budweiser, but they have some great brews. Particularly, everything that Unibroue produces is amazing.
      ( http://www.unibroue.com/english.cfm )

    • Bega, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I dunno man, that's a bit too generalized. I really like my shiner.
    • raid517, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I think I've had a few too many beers already. What I should have said was:

      "The British drink their beer warm. Anyone who can do that would probably drink anything."

      I'm a Brit pal and I have never drank a warm beer in my life, nor would I know where to get one.

      Maybe in the 19th century they might have drank warm beer I don't know - but as far as I know that could be a myth too - or maybe before the days of refrigeration - but in the 39 years I have been on this Earth I have never seen, or heard of a single instance of anyone drinking or selling warm beer anywhere.

      Anyway the only one likely to be drinking 'anything' (given that we have a good idea of what 'anything' might be) is you pal - as I'm quite sure you already do regularly anyway.

      Anyway as for the Yanks who are getting into real beers - good for you. Don't liten to these ignorant types though - as Beer Brewing as a tradition originated predominantly in the UK and among the Anglo Saxon peasantry. Let the Canadians drink their Molson lager, or whatever the hell it is they drink - and if you ever want to explore the history of real beer why not visit the UK for a real cultural history?

      Also check out the definition of 'real ale' courtesy of Wikipedia here:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_ale

      and maybe consider doing some research on the campaign for real ale society.
    • maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7get two to diggnation, lets see what alex and kevin think?
    • joeydoo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8"Ha, You're Canadian, so yes, technically you are an american, aren't you?"

      Actually that near as dam it makes him British.... but us Brits have forgotten about them.... too many French. ;)

      I jest. :D
    • Gizza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well, i stand corrected, I can admit when I'm wrong. I guess that warm beer thing is just a myth. Either that or I'm thinking of somewhere else.
    • Philodox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I don't know much about English or European beers aside from what we "import", but in Canada all of the really good beer comes from microbreweries. The Molson and the Labatt beers do a pretty good job getting you drunk, but they don't represent what true Canadian beer is all about.
    • lwoj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Canada does make some great beers. One of my favorites is Creemore Springs. If we're gonna get into an argument about who makes the ***** beer, come on, it's the US hands down. And I've travelled all over the world, I know what I'm talking about. Polish beer is actually one of my favorite beer nationalities...they consistently make fantastic brews. Try Okocim, it's great. The US has lost its way, it's beers remind me of what McDonald's is to food, it's just tasteless crap that is made top appeal to a wide audience. I've got friends here in Canada that swear that Coors Light is the best beer God ever graced man with. WTF??? Good for getting drunk (because it tastes and goes down like water), but come on, the stuff is *****.
    • Tirial, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Molson Canadian is a beer for kids under the age of 19 who don't know any better. As for some good domestic canadian beers, the best beer I've ever had, any nationality, is Bushwakkers Summer Wheat.
    • axel2k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4***** awesome. They find something this old, something I think would be a priceless antique. What do they do? "Hey, let's taste it!" -- BRILLIANT :)
    • 47f0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Probably the ultimate shot in the Anglo/American beer war, by John Cleese - "American beer is like making love in a canoe - it's ***** near water!"

      Me, I'm reserving judgement until I've tried them all - repeatedly.
    • Geekbeard, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1"Molson Canadian is a beer for kids under the age of 19 who don't know any better."

      I disagree, when it's been properly chilled (ie., when it almost has little icicles in it, it tastes quite good.

      Anyway, if you want a really good beer, Canada really does suck in comparison to Europe. My favourite is Chimay Red, but at $4 for a stubbie, it's a bit too much. ImBev makes some pretty good stuff for a mass producer, such as Leffe Blond, Hoegaarden, etc.

      Bring on the ale-feast!
    • WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3OMG...Y'all are arguing about beer, but the best brews are all ALEs!

      The Belgians rule, in that department, but the brits make some good ones too..and there are a few good ones from micro breweries in Vermont, USA. (unlike most American beers and ales which suck!)
      One of my favorite ales was Thomas Cooper's Real Ale....from OZ, but they stopped making it...(or stopped sending it to NYC. Now they have Coopers sparklin Ale. It is similar...but I am not sure if it is the same...but it is a good top fermented ale, with sediment in the bottom, the way it should be!

      Ales should always be a bit cloudy in the bottle!
      And still alive!
      Live food!
    • gaoshan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I'm American and think... no, I KNOW that the Brits make better brew than we do. Think about it, we invented Budweiser and Milwaukee's Best for dog's sake. We are the international home of watery, thin, gassy preservative laden, canned, marketing driven beer. I lived and traveled throughout Europe for a while and every last country over there kicks America's collective beer/ale/lager ass (especially Belgium and Germany... they are to beer what the U.S. is to ignorant bragging).
    • BenSerwa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Look, I'm Canadian too, and we make better beer than the States, but to argue even our microbreweries can hold a candle up to real British ale on tap is pure ignorance.
    • z23rdhsuan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@brstilson
      whats your recipe for the imperial stout?
      @digg
      why isn't there a beer section?
    • elliam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2dunno where I read it, but the story went that in WW2 a large number of men left to go fight. The breweries still had to sell their product, so they came up with the lighter brews to appeal to women. When the men came back the piss water was everywhere and they just got used to it.

      truth? dunno.
    • Decus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@raid517 "...but in the 39 years I have been on this Earth I have never seen, or heard of a single instance of anyone drinking or selling warm beer anywhere."

      I just got back from beijing and everytime I ordered a beer i was asked if i wanted it warm or cold....
    • podgey22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh my lord... A beer argument on Digg?!

      >> Don't read too much into this... The British don't know what a good beer tastes like.

      We do... We really do. You can keep your "beer". At least kevin and alex know what real beer is. They're always drinking British ales and somesuch on Diggnation
    • brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"whats your recipe for the imperial stout?"

      River Styx Imperial Stout
      OG: 1.099
      Estimated ABV: 10.1%
      IBU: 52
      Degrees Lovibond (colour): 44
      Size: 5 gallons
      Mash in @ 170:
      15 lbs American 2-row malt
      1 lb American Chocolate malt
      1 lb American Black Patent malt

      Continuous Sparge to 7 gallons

      Boil
      60min:
      1 lb 100% natural clover honey
      1 oz Centennial hops

      30min:
      0.5 oz Cascade hops
      0.5 oz Centennial hops

      15min:
      0.5 oz Cascade hops
      0.5 oz Centennial hops

      Cool down wort to 70 F and pitch yeast starter of American or California Ale Yeast

      Primary ferment for 1-2 weeks or until krausen activity is completed
      Rack into secondary fermentation, add 1 oz anise for flavoring
      Secondary ferment/condition 1 year

      Prime with 5 oz corn or dark brown sugar.

      Get ***** drunk!
    • jsmith39, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@schroduggity

      I know, Alaska makes some of the best beer I've had. Unfortunately I moved back to NY after 8 years and have only managed to get my hands on some more once since then. Sucks.
    • z23rdhsuan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@brstilson
      thanks that looks like something i might try.
      i use the Chocolate malt & Black Patent malt in my porters to get them nice and black. i never do the full mash, I'm still learning so i cheat with the malt extracts. the honey & anise in a dark beer is an interesting concept.
      i just made a ginger beer that was half honey half amber malt and a little wheat malt. only lightly hopped then i added fresh ginger juiced right before bottling.
    • brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@z23rdhsuan

      If you want to do it with the extract/grains method, you could substitute the 15 lbs of 2-row with 9.75 lbs of Light Dry Malt Extract, then steep the black patent and Chocolate malts to obtain the same OG and colour. Also, if you want the hops to be more effective, add the extract in the last 15 minutes of the boil. High-gravity recipes like this tend to inhibit the effectiveness of alpha acids, so it's better to add hops before the extract. This will affect final flavor, however, and it will have a more pronounced hop character than the full-grain version so you may not want to do that.

      If you're new like I am, you should check out http://www.basicbrewing.com and subscribe to their podcasts. It's an excellent show and provides lots of ideas.
  • BoneyB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13It gets skunky because of how it's stored, just like vino. I don't think this beer was skunky :-)
  • Anubis2051, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19I think I'll wait and see what Kevin and Alex think before I go buy any...
    • Azewaldo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Yes, they have to get a bottle on the podcast!
    • brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33Kevin and Alex have no taste in beer.
  • unamas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+44i wonder who was the brave soul that said, "I'll drink that."
    • PatrickFisher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30Damn, if I had the chance, I would have tried it!
    • Bigdee4933, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29You can't turn down free beer.
    • CigarJack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27My guess is a Scot or an Irishman.
    • slasherx, on 10/12/2007, -17/+1@Bigdee4933

      I guess you wouldn't turn down a beer if I nutted in it?
  • Niallgriff, on 10/12/2007, -13/+11Beer experts? How do you get that job? I'm in a frat, does that mean I'm in?
    • VeryAngryJim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+46Considering most frat guys drink their beer from a funnel through a hose, no you cannot be a beer expert.
    • irishjays, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12So pouring Natural Light into the bottom of plastic cups and tossing Ping-Pong balls into them makes you all beer experts? Perhaps the 30 warm keystones drained down the funnel attached to the clear plastic hose gives it an exquisite aftertaste often missed by poor hillbillies. BURP
    • poolboy82, on 10/12/2007, -11/+1Hey...don't dog a 30 pack.

      If I bring a case to a party you can bet I'll try my best to drink that case.

      As for Frat boy beer preferences...while a lot of them have terrible taste in beer, I can tell you that the Delta Sigs at Rose Hulman can be an expensive group to drink with.

      Beer Pong is the devil.
    • PhantomBantam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Sodomy expert, perhaps.
    • alexdagrate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7No... no, you are not "in."
  • fmayson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24Ye Olde ***** Ale.
  • NiGHTSChao, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2*laughs*

    http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/video-instant-aging-wine
    • cogen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Wow... I kind of like the idea of that...

      But the voice acting was *painful*.
  • krakkinem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5How long until one or more bottles show up on eBay?
  • Holosoth, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Anything in '69 tastes good.
    • laxmaniac3773, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21not everything in a 69 tastes good
    • PatrickFisher, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10laxmaniac3773, I've never used this saying before, but I feel this truly is a right time for my first time:

      You owe me a new keyboard.
  • gib0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I recently read this while thread jumping at BeerAdvocate.com. Good read.

    And for the record, some beer ages better than others. I recently drank some 2 year old 60 minute IPA from Dog Fish Ale that was absolutely sexy.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/12/09/nbeer09.xml
    • gib0r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3err...Dog Fish Head.

      and the linked article is a bit more in depth.
    • poolboy82, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7While I enjoy the 60 minute I really enjoy their 90 minute.

      As for the 120? I'll pass. I have a problem with beers that taste like sugars have been added.

      137 year old beer tastes good. I would take my chances with a 137 year old ale over a Coor's Light any day of the week.

      Hops are your friend!
    • brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I love their 90-minute IPA. For some reason the oak flavor is much more pronounced than the 60.
  • gib0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Long live the hop.
  • drewish, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1its all about the duck rabbit, props to anyone who has had beer from their microbrewery
  • yonbeastie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I love how the wannabe beer experts are coming out of the woodwork to tell everybody at digg who does and does not know what constitutes good beer. JERKS!
  • saska, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2If you can buy it in your state, Sam Adams Utopias will completely change your mind about old beer.
  • pants428, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I once drank a 6 month old Red Dog... it was one of the worst tastes ever...
    • 98acura, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3i tried a 3 year old red dog that had rust on the bottle from the cap.. they had been in a cooler during a high school camping trip, then went from the cooler to my friends parents outside refrigerator... we tried one a few years later.. couldnt even get it down...

      but then come to think of it, the reason we had a bunch of red dog's left, was because no one drank them because they were disgusting when brand new
  • smartass007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0people will say anything to get free beer
  • icecoldzz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I wonder how the 137-year-old nuts tasted
    • raid517, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9A bit like yours probably.

      Lol, sorry but you kind of walked into that one.
    • 13thfloor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1salty?
  • gib0r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1www.beeradvocate.com
    • Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2They're great, if you like expensive, regional, or undrinkably bitter beer.

      I've taken a shine to the brown ales, they've got a rich taste without the hops insanity.
  • fozzie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Oh my god it's like Beerfest! They found grandpa's stolen recipe!
  • darkomen123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2BEER!! FTW!!
  • grinin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Some really good beers can be aged... I'm not sure about that many years worth of aging... but to each their own... Some of the stronger malt's and porter's do age rather well....

    Drink Dogfish Head!
  • jaba1337, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://www.bellsbeer.com/

    bells makes some of the best beer i've ever had. They're a small brewery primarily serving Michigan. Expedition Stout and Kalamazoo Stout are amazing, as is Two Hearted Ale.... and Oberon.
    • jaba1337, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2oh, and how could i forget this gem... Great Lakes Brewing Company Edmund Fitzgerald Porter.
      http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/beerProfile.php?beer_id=00000005
    • signal15, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Bell's Hopslam is the best IPA I've ever had. Too bad they only make it for one month and it's $14 for a six pack. I've always got Two Hearted in the fridge though. Bell's makes some of the best beer in the states, and it ranks quite well internationally.
    • safetyseal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1agreed, I have sixer of winter white in the fridge right now, I'm a lover of bells, three floyds, great lakes, founders, etc. the midwest makes some amazing beer.
  • benijuana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2ok, if this stuff ends up being worth thousands, i'm gonna bury a good case of fat tire or red stripe and leave my great grandchildren a treasure map...
  • Lionhart, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yes, because what country you're from determines how much you know about beer. Stop being a bunch of nationalistic idiots and state your credentials if you're going to brag about your beer expertise. About the only comment in this story worth reading is from the guy who is a brewer himself.
  • nepawoods, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1buried, lame, because I don't get to drink it
  • Waterispoison, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The title sounds like a Sim City "news flash"
  • cinta, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0I once drank a 6-pack of bud light that had been sitting in the trunk of someones car for almost 2 years (who lived in a hot in the summer, cold in the winter habitat) and it tasted like ***** but got me super trashed. I love good beer, but sometimes you just need to get wasted and can choke down anything that's put in front of you. Anyone who has a 137 year old Bud Light they are scared to drink just let me know, I'll be the guinea pig!
    • MrTea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1lol Bud Light
    • WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2How the hell can you claim that you love good beer, if you are willing to drink that trash beer, Bud?

      In a blind taste test, five Belgians and five Germans were offered Budweiser or piss, and they all chose the piss!

      I kid, I kid!

  • goodbeershow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2One of those bottles made it back to Muncie Indiana. We are not going to drink it but I plan on having my picture taken with it holding a Rally's sack or something.

    JeffreyT

    http://goodbeershow.com
  • cinta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Funny, my friend who had the 2 year old bud light was from Muncie, Ball State U. Small world!
    • optigon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow, two-year-old Bud Light eh?

      That may be worth bringing to The Heorot (http://www.heorotpub.com/).

      For those of you not from Indiana, The Heorot is a bar in Muncie Indiana that boasts something like 300+ types of beer.
  • jlgosse, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I drink ALOT of beer. Probably more than almost anyone who is actually reading the comments on this article, let alone the ones who actually read the story, and I honestly think that most of you have a terrible taste in beer.

    I've tried pretty much all the mainstream beers on the market, be it Canadian, Coors, Sleemans, Keiths, Bass, Corona, Heineken, Labatt's, Guiness, Grasshopper, Miller, Kilkenny, and much more (I'm too drunk to remember much more right now). Seriously though, to all of you insane beer drinking "professionals", you have a terrible taste in pretty much EVERYTHING if you think that beers that are yeasty, aged, thick and stiff are great tasting.

    I'll stick to my easy drinking, light beers, or my decent tasting, good time beers such as MGD or Sleeman's. I don't know about you guys, but drinking liquid bread by yourself (since you have no friends) and thinking about how "good" your beer is and how "great" your "FRIENDS" are is a waste of time. Go to a club, drink some 4.1 and ***** some sluts. Stop thinking about *****, aged 6.5 beers.
    • WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4if you want to get over that obvious superiority complex.....go and get a few bottled of "Fin Du Monde", the Canadian beer that is like 12% alcohol, and drink them..... But then you might have a hard time typing..as I am having now!
      Damn Pyrat Rum!
      It's just too tasty!
    • jlgosse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1FAXE and a few others (one in particular is intense, we don't have it here in newfoundland but they have it in Nova Scotia) will totally ***** you up like that.

      However, I don't look to get trashed off a couple of beers (normally), I want to drink between a dozen and a dozen and a half and be pretty much wasted (after 5 or 6 hours), as well as smoke a draw or two and be even more ***** up. With a bunch of the guys, either of these; in combo or not, is totally the best times of all.
    • raid517, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Hey when you are a little older, you will come to appreciate beer almost as much as all the sluts you could ever *****.

      Young people just want to get drunk. Slightly older people may in time come to regard beer as both a hobby and a form of personal religion.

      Please don't be disrespectful to my growing faith in the merits of good beer.
    • jlgosse, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2I'm 20, so I'm not a total kid. I've also drank ALOT of beer (different kinds), MUCH more than anyone I've talked to personally.

      What exactly constitutes a "good beer". Again, thick, disgusting beer that no one wants to drink (including my grandfather who was an alcoholic his entire life, or my step-father that has drank god knows how many dozen beer in his life) is not my idea of beer.

      P.S. If you're going to drink something "socially", why drink something like beer? Wine and spirits are the way to go.
    • jlgosse, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Also, how can everyone here complain about people being underage or young (and think they're all stupid) and actually talk so much *****? You can't even complete a sentence or spell a few words correctly, so how can you honestly be a judge of something that is good (or not)?

      Grow up, drink beer (even if it isn't to get drunk), and have a good time. Don't drink a beer to look for an insanely distinct taste just to brag about how you drank "cockwarbler's insignia ale of the blue lagoon".
    • raid517, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well sorry kid. Say what about the next time we meet I buy you a hose and a funnel? Would that make you happier?

      What is this yeasty, aged, thick and stiff '***** warbler's' ale you are referring to? I am sure as hell certain I wouldn't want to drink any beer like that either. I think the only person likely to be drinking '***** warbler's' ale around here arround here is you my friend.

      Anyway I suspect that the reality is that a) you are very young - and therefore haven't earned the right to hold an opinion yet (hence the need to boast about all the beer you have illegally obtained and consumed) and b) that you are American - which would mean that it was very unlikely that you have ever tasted a real beer before anyway - although some Americans have traveled and I'm sure that they really do know the difference.

      Anyway when you are a little older and even the sluts out there won't give you a second look, beer may well become one of the few remaining consolations you might have.
    • raid517, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Well sorry kid. Say what about the next time we meet I buy you a hose and a funnel? Would that make you happier?

      What is this yeasty, aged, thick and stiff '***** warbler's' ale you are referring to? I am sure as hell certain I wouldn't want to drink any beer like that either. I think the only person likely to be drinking '***** warbler's' ale around here is you my friend.

      Anyway I suspect that the reality is that a) you are very young - and therefore haven't earned the right to hold an opinion yet (hence the need to boast about all the beer you have illegally obtained and consumed) and b) that you are American - which would mean that it was very unlikely that you have ever tasted a real beer before anyway - although some Americans have traveled and I'm sure that they really do know the difference.

      As I said, when you are a little older and even the sluts out there won't give you a second look, beer may well become one of the few remaining consolations in life that you might have.

      Oh and by the way I am perfectly comfortable with my spelling - and my grammar, it's the digg editing system (and perhaps my immediate over fondness for beer) which is really at fault - hence why in this instance rather than frantically trying to edit my post in the alloted time, I have been forced to resubmit an edited version instead.
    • optigon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Dugg Down jlgosse for not mentioning one Belgian-style beer.

      Drinking a lot of beer doesn't make you an expert. Having well-rounded taste does.
  • WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I just really like how every year, around October, they come out with some pumpkin ales... they are usually pretty nice.
    I mean... no Corsendonk Monks Brown Ale, but still kinda nice!
  • eirias, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I am partial to anything Ayinger. Go for the Brau-Weisse or the Celebrator Doppelbock.
  • dragstarking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Marge - Coffee Please
    Barman - Beer
    Marge - Coffee
    Barman - Beer
    Marge - C
    Barman - B


    Homer - I'd like one of those big beers people are talking about
    Barman - This big enough for you yank?
    Homer - It's pretty big, I guess


    Aussie, Aussie, Aussie
  • drunkard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I do enjoy a "tasty" beer, and not too many. Many ales, pilsners, and stouts are tasty.

    Some of you come across as real assholes the way you talk about beer. It's just a drink, just say what beer(s) you like and why.

    I like many Belgian, German, and English beers as many have already mentioned. There are always great brews somewhere, where ever you are.

    Wine is good with dinner as well sometimes.
  • omnithought, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ohhhhhh...I want! Being a homebrewer, this is of great interest to me. I'm blown away that any beer that old would be palatable at all.
    Now, back to my Old Rasputin stout!
  • gib0r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Eh, Yeti is better ;)
  • bmw@, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2After reading much of the above, I can only say ... Digg would be so much better without the comment feature.
  • RojoKayako, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Beer tastes like Ass. 137-year-old beer tastes like very-olde Ass.
  • Woknblues, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i had to actually get up and walk around for a few minutes after reading some real dumb comments here. anyone who says, "American beer sucks" knows absolutely nothing about beer in America. Have you had even 5% of the commercially made beers from the US? I bet you haven't. *sigh* I love people who think that Canadian beer is "stronger" than American beer. Alcohol in beer inthe US is measured by percentage of weight, not volume like it is in Canada. That alone accounts for the extra 1-2% that makes the beer "stronger" in Canada. Also, consider this, if a beer has .5-1% more alcohol, how much "more drunk" are you going to get if you drink 6-12 of them?

    To the article, anyone who knows some of the more exotic Russian imperial stouts, or even a good Thomas hardy ale, knows that beers hold up well to laying down. If it's high in Alcohol, it should be able to last, and improve. I have had many beers that were great 10-15 years old. Most of your standard beers from 3-6% by volume should be consumed as soon as they finish conditioning in the bottle, anywhere from 2-6 months *in general*.
  • astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Later experts found the original label which fell of 136 years ago on the 137 year old
    brew. After careful reconstruction the label they found it read...'"Royal Pissboy Bucket".


  • phonepimpbill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is awesome. To me it's a culinary time capsule. Has anything this old of any kind ever been consumed?
    • Woknblues, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I am sure there are champagnes and other spirits that old. There are strains of beer and champagne yeasts that are used over and over again, keeping a small amount from the "last batch" you could argue that there are yeast strains hundreds of years old. But then again, as the biogenesis theory tells us, organisms occur from other, older organisms, (sorry about the paraphrase, mr. pasteur) thus everything we are eating is from some older oraganism.
  • Rainbowman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i think you should all quit arguing like like little doodoo nugets and answer the question
    and if you wanna keep arguing drink some beer and get to fighting cause that how we do stuff here on land
    amaerica the so called land of the "free"

    and i just drank a 2 year old bud light and it tasted like a fat guys butt hole but ya know what i kinda like fat butt holes so i think it was prettttttttyyyyyyyyyyy good!!@!
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