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picsyard.com — "Reader voices strong opinion on atheists." Funny as hell. People like this woman is probably a major reason why people like you and I are atheists. "It's time to stomp out atheists in America. The majority of Americans would love to see atheists kicked out of America. If you don't believe in God, then get out of this country..."
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- Audacitor, on 11/11/2007, -45/+661Religious prejudice is just ***** moronic. I was open about it in my high school on the bible belt fringe, and it sparked some interesting debates/salvation attempts.
One girl got in a not heated but friendly debate with me, and the next day brought a paper supporting Christianity. I sat down with the paper and wrote down counter-arguments for all the points it made, then handed it back to her. She gave up.
Then another time, another girl just gave me this "God Science" book out of nowhere. Weirded me out, since I'd never talked to this girl in my life.
Finally, there was one heated debate during play practice. I know it'll probably bite me for mentioning it, but my mom got involved in that one, and pretty much kicked their illogical asses.- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -10/+169Above comment posted in wrong ***** story. Guess that's what I get for looking at two atheism related stories at once.
- juicebag, on 10/10/2007, -4/+237That's odd. It works very well for this article.
- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -3/+43It does, I was lucky. Here's where it's supposed to go: http://digg.com/offbeat_news/He_s_an_Atheist_you_k ...
- ryanfelder, on 10/19/2007, -93/+8Your original post is pretty prejudiced against religion.
- bugsy187, on 10/10/2007, -7/+57Well if you don't like it you can... get out!
- Nossie, on 10/10/2007, -7/+45"prejudiced against religion" What??? STFU and GTFO...
I don't care if your Christian or fvcking satanic, all the guy did was recount his own experience. of being bombarded by Christians.
Sure, what he said doesn't make Christians look good.... it makes them look like fanatical morons and with just cause -- your comment about prejudice just reinforces that!.- Koldkompress, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I know this is pretty offtopic, but why say "Fvcking"? It's not like that V somehow mysteriously disguises the swearing. Infact, it's even worse, because you let it get past Diggs swearing Censor, so it's kind of counter-intuitive.
[Note: I assume this gets past the Swear-filter, as I have never actually had it on] - Spuy767, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Freeedom of REligion = Freedom From religion. Too bad that this point is lost on so many evangelicals.
- Koldkompress, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I know this is pretty offtopic, but why say "Fvcking"? It's not like that V somehow mysteriously disguises the swearing. Infact, it's even worse, because you let it get past Diggs swearing Censor, so it's kind of counter-intuitive.
- thumperings, on 10/10/2007, -7/+7yea umm reality of rather biased against religion too.
- mediablitz, on 10/10/2007, -5/+116not to worry. 95% of diggers don't read the stories...
- bmobile, on 10/23/2007, -1/+36And 76% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
- AkshayGenius, on 10/10/2007, -9/+2including that
- magicmarc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+157/6ths of people don't understand fractions.
- JxImagineit, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1how many is 7/6ths?
- bmobile, on 10/23/2007, -1/+36And 76% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
- jsmith39, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Crazy, I lived in Alaska for 8 years and never met anyone that crazy, glad I never made it t Soldotna.
- Kershalt, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9hmmm you had a couple of unfortunate instances I'm sorry they didn't follow threw but i hope you see the first two at least meant well. personally i have been a christian most my life and have chosen to keep an open mind and accept everyone regardless of there religion or there background. Were not all like the extreme examples that you sometimes run into, so i ask you keep an open mind and understand that these people are extremists and don't represent the opinion of all Christians.
- lucas22, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4thank you for reminding us that you are not all like that. :)
- juicebag, on 10/10/2007, -4/+237That's odd. It works very well for this article.
- tehpwnrate, on 10/10/2007, -9/+47Hey, at least some of them were nice enough to do what they thought would help you out. Don't be so mean :)
On the subject of the picture, that letter is disgustingly bigoted.- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16All three of the girls were nice, as in, they weren't aggressive about it, they didn't try to pull any "the bible says" crap. The one during play practice? That had males in it, and it was much more aggressive.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/24/2007, -5/+149Did anyone else read this article in their head with an extremely red neck accent with out intending to?
- malkir, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21I pictured a stay at home mom in the kitchen with a baby in the oven.
- ChocChunkOaties, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Thunk... look at my little miracles, fillin up my trailer like a sardine can... thunk... you know what would be a real miracle... thunk... if i could rememeber your daddys name.. thunk guess i'll have to call you lorry driver junior
- startimeash, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1RIP Bill :-)
- DDRSkata, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Don't criticize stay-at-home moms with babies in the oven. Sometimes, a man just wants to come home and have a nice baby dinner.
- ChocChunkOaties, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Thunk... look at my little miracles, fillin up my trailer like a sardine can... thunk... you know what would be a real miracle... thunk... if i could rememeber your daddys name.. thunk guess i'll have to call you lorry driver junior
- JxImagineit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6The voice I heard was my grandmother, hates me for being an athiest, she wont even aknowledge my son...
- zosofrank, on 10/23/2007, -8/+1WOW, that is the most ignorant thing I have read today Bill. Way to be just like the lady who wrote the article and make yourself sound like a moron. Being from the south, I just love ignorant statements like that, whats funnier is that all the people I know are either agnostic or atheist, but I guess since we have an accent we are just dumb ass farmers right? You have absolutely no right to comment on this ladies bigotry when you yourself practice it as well.
- ebrgt62, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6The "God Warrior" woman came to mind here. Geez, I still get shivers when I think of her. Talk about damaging your own cause!
- Coslenchip, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1What this woman is trying to say is that there is a big difference between a freedom of religion and a freedom from religion.
The point of the freedom of religion was so that people would not be prosecuted by the state for anything religious. It is not now, nor has it ever been the intention of the "freedom of religion" clause to stop people from coming into contact with religion or being told by other individuals that they should believe in God. Its only purpose was to stop the State, not individuals.
- malkir, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21I pictured a stay at home mom in the kitchen with a baby in the oven.
- Nougat, on 10/10/2007, -7/+25Did they put out?
- ryanfelder, on 10/23/2007, -69/+6Your post is pretty prejudice against religion.
- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Elaborate please.
- Tenetri, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12If you don't like it... you can get the hell out!
- obeythefist, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Prejudiced.
- bkibbey, on 10/10/2007, -22/+1She's right about one thing...
- resplence, on 10/18/2007, -3/+149Their illogical asses? Where did you get that from?
"I don't care if they have never committed a crime, atheists are the reason crime is rampant."
Oh, I see.- DrMonkeyLove, on 10/10/2007, -1/+56As Dawkins suggested may be true, I bet there are far fewer atheists in prison than Christians in prison.
- resplence, on 10/10/2007, -1/+41Statistics actually confirm that. I don't have the data on me but you can look it up.
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+37You don't have the data on you? Dude- you're on the internet...
http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+37You don't have the data on you? Dude- you're on the internet...
- thedragon4453, on 10/23/2007, -10/+10I don't want to get flamed for this, but aren't there far fewer atheists in this country than Christians? Or did Dawkins take that into account? Like the percentage of atheists in prison compared to the percentage of Christians in prison? Because if it is just number of Christians vs number of atheists, that would not really help this argument.
- trogdoor, on 10/23/2007, -2/+11Of course it's percentage.
- mountaincable, on 10/23/2007, -0/+3Its probably due to last minute repentance while getting tossed around by Bubba.
- CarolynMittens, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I really hope that statistic is referring to the U.S., or an otherwise "free" country, since many countries still imprison people solely because they are Christian (Peru, Pakistan, China, etc). But even if this stat does refer to the U.S., so many more Americans claim to be Christian than actually are, so I'm not sure what a statistic like that even tells us.
- VicGolgo13, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"since many countries still imprison people solely because they are Christian (Peru, Pakistan, China, etc)"
Um, wait a minute. What? I'm Peruvian, and last time I checked, a large percentage of the population in Peru was Christian (mostly Catholic). In fact:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Peru
- VicGolgo13, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"since many countries still imprison people solely because they are Christian (Peru, Pakistan, China, etc)"
- resplence, on 10/10/2007, -1/+41Statistics actually confirm that. I don't have the data on me but you can look it up.
- razorswc, on 10/10/2007, -23/+2Because there's fewer Atheists in the world?
- phronko, on 10/10/2007, -0/+23I think "per capita" was implied there.
- JxImagineit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2one thing I would like to add is that a large majority of "geeks" are athiest. Was talked about on an older diggnation episode.
- DrMonkeyLove, on 10/10/2007, -1/+56As Dawkins suggested may be true, I bet there are far fewer atheists in prison than Christians in prison.
- Protonz, on 10/10/2007, -11/+62You know you can retell the story and lie about the embarrassing 'mom' aspect right?
Us atheists can lie, cheat & steal all we want, because we don't believe in hell!- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -6/+50Doesn't mean you should.
- XopherMV, on 10/10/2007, -3/+45Actually no, you can't lie, cheat, and steal all you want. Perjury, fraud, and theft is against the law. You don't need hell when you have the police, the judicial system, rape-you-in-the-ass prisons.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19At least demons don't get enlarged egos and power trips.
- molochi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Better to reign in hell...
- nosecohn, on 10/10/2007, -2/+26Apparently atheism also completely eradicates one's ability to recognize sarcasm.
- androo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27"You don't need hell when you have the police, the judicial system, rape-you-in-the-ass prisons."
some of us atheists have consciences too... - avihappy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18It's a federal 'pound me in the ass' prison.
- GliTCH82, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3You're a very, very bad man
- lonnieh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2protonz gets the tase
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19At least demons don't get enlarged egos and power trips.
- Shirt, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3That gives me a lot of respect for you.
- nalar, on 10/10/2007, -2/+26*Watches sarcasm sail over the heads of some people*
- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6*swooooosh...splat*
- Protonz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11/sarcasm
heh - jordanlund, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Why as a matter of fact, I'm lying right now!
- JxImagineit, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4I get that crap from people all the time. Theres this girl I liked when I was a first year. But she was extremely religious and I was athiest. She liked me but also refused to date me because I didn't believe in god. She would always say things like, "how can I trust a man who doesn't have a fear of God, you could cheat on me with other women without worrying about conciquences" and this sort of logic to me seems sooo wrong, because...She, and other extremely religious people, only do what right because of a fear of thier god, not because its the right thing to do, not because they are good hearted caring people, but because they want a good seat to the heaven show....
- roomforpanic, on 10/23/2007, -3/+4But your argument is illogical. Your assumption that their exists a "right thing to do" implies your assumption of a greater context to life. You self-identify as an atheist while simultaneously espousing inherent morals, so I will assume you're a humanist. Under humanist principles, you could cheat on your girlfriend should the circumstances prove appropriate. Or, you could just be like the religious people you so despise, living out principles contrary to your philosophical beliefs.
- cranium, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4@roomforpanic
Don't be silly. The purely philisophical basis for morality was established by the ancients.
Besides that, did you ever consider that even with no god in the picture, actions have consequences? A person is actually quite logical to fear the real consequences more than the imaginary ones from God Skywalker.- roomforpanic, on 10/23/2007, -2/+5To whom are you referring? Plato? Surely you don't toss around his beliefs as the common sense approach. You sound rather remedial, so I'll use small words. Not all immorality has physical consequence. Why do anything to reduce pleasure if you assume no greater context?
Also, for future reference, qualify statements like "established by the ancients." You can accuse me of being pedantic, but a philosopher would laugh at you for using such a phrase.
- roomforpanic, on 10/23/2007, -2/+5To whom are you referring? Plato? Surely you don't toss around his beliefs as the common sense approach. You sound rather remedial, so I'll use small words. Not all immorality has physical consequence. Why do anything to reduce pleasure if you assume no greater context?
- Coslenchip, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1You are correct that the reason Christians do what is right is because we fear God. But, the "fear" being referred to is not "being afraid", it means respecting Him and wanting to please Him because of everything He has done. I would support her completely in not getting involved with someone who was not a Christian. Better to avoid the situation completely.
- Shirt, on 10/10/2007, -13/+41What's illogical is pooling all of us into the same group. I am a Christian (nondenominational) but I would never say anything like that to an atheist. I'm taking your comment with a grain of salt anyway, though. For one thing, and I'm sure you already understand this, providing counter arguments to a high school Christian girl and leaving her unable to make any comebacks is not proof that we are wrong. Most people that claim to be Christians these days would be stumped if you asked them any real theological questions that didn't pertain to the basic catechism. I see this quite often living in the Southeast, where most children are raised going to church, but few of them put much though into it beyond the fact that they're told they have to believe in Jesus.
- eyepower, on 10/10/2007, -13/+6Please show me where that was done in the original comment. It seems to me that the scope of the story was strictly limited personal interactions that he had with individuals... Unless you are referring to the first sentence, but that would mean you are defending religious prejudice. Do you defend religious prejudice?
- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18In self-defense, I didn't actually say I her left unable to provide counter-arguments. I just said she gave up. And don't forget I was a highschool boy myself; we were even as far as age goes.
- Sairynn, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Would you hit it?
- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8I can't answer that. I think she may be a digger...
- BrainInAJar, on 10/10/2007, -9/+4Christian chicks have to take it in the butt. The bible says so.
So the real question is "would you get ***** on your dick for it?"
- Sairynn, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Would you hit it?
- troye, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9Pfft, I'm still not wasting time believing in Jeebus.
- Rimrose, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Oh my gosh. I thought I was the only Christian on Digg. I'm not one of the crazy, slam the bible in your face Christians. Heck, I barely go to Church anymore because everyone at the Churches now are Hypocritical and judgmental. But I do believe. And yes, I realize being a Christian on Digg is going to get you Dugg Down. Oh well. I'm just glad to see I'm not the only one. And no, I don't give a damn what religion you are or if you are an Atheist. It's your life and you can do what you want. Some of my best friends and my boyfriend are all Atheist. Do I care? Nope. I believe what I believe and thats all that matters to me. So yeah, I really don't like when people pool all Christians into one group, because while a LOT of them are like the lady in the post, some of us are, believe it or not, a lot more normal.
- thgreatoz, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Stop trying to make yourself a martyr. People don't digg down christians for being christians, they digg down christians who are insufferable ***** who push their beliefs on other people and look down on any who don't follow their particular brand of religion.
- cocacola39, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0there's nothing wrong with that.
- LowROI, on 10/10/2007, -1/+35here's the other two stories from the "opinion column" that day.
"As a Christian and a nurse, it was with great sadness that I read the article regarding Gail Pepin in the Oct. 11 The Augusta Chronicle. She feels left out and unable to find her place because she's an atheist.
Not only am I sad for her but for her patients. What kind of nurse can work in a hospital and not see God's hand? Miracles only he can perform are done every day. How can you see a baby born and not believe?
You can donate all the blood, money and time you have, but until you have your life right with God your destiny will make the World Trade Center attack look like building blocks. Once again, we have had a wake-up call. Once again, so many refuse to wake up.
Binnie Jones, Hephzibah, Ga.
I can't believe Oct. 11 was such a slow news day that The Chronicle had to put the article with a picture of Gail Pepin pondering the atheist role.
I'm sure, especially on the one month anniversary of the terrorist attack, there might have something more news-worthy to publish.
Marjorie A. Bell, McCormick, S.C."- DrMonkeyLove, on 10/23/2007, -5/+62"How can you see a baby born and not believe?"
Uh, because I understand biology and realize it has nothing to do with God sticking his magical hands up some woman's crotch.- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15Ack, god, hands, crotch, mental imagery, ow ow ow.
- jordanlund, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11I bet God has HUGE knuckles too...
- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15Ack, god, hands, crotch, mental imagery, ow ow ow.
- gromnie, on 10/23/2007, -5/+28"What kind of nurse can work in a hospital and not see God's hand? Miracles only he can perform are done every day."
I will believe in "God's Hand" the instant He deigns to miraculously give an amputee's limbs back and not one second sooner.
Until then, "He" is a myth.- xister, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19That's pretty convenient that all of those everyday happenings are "miracles". And I'd be willing to bet not as many of those miracles would have happened if the doctors, nurses and the hospital in general hadn't had a hand in them.
- Gnasche, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Only God can make a monthly anniversary.
- dlsspy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18I never got that argument. So, babies are born in a hospital and it's a miracle that proves the existence of God.
What about *everything else* that happens in a hospital?
I'd expect a hospital worker to be the last person to be arguing for miracles over an understanding of physiology.- csrster, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18Quite so. How can you watch the miraculous working of a tumour and not believe it was designed by God?
- LeeSoong, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2its a miracle people keep trying to save life, when death is always the outcome.
even for a little while, life is worth saving, cherishing, helping...
- DrMonkeyLove, on 10/23/2007, -5/+62"How can you see a baby born and not believe?"
- Christ0s, on 10/10/2007, -2/+70the problem is most people don't seem to be able to tell the difference between religion and ethics. they think that morals come from god and without a belief in god you have no morals. but ethics/moral have existed long before Christianity and its is possible to be ethical without a belief in god
- eyepower, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16AMEN my brotha!
- fauxtank, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10I've heard that argument before as well. More than anything, it makes me worry about the person making it. After all, if I win, and convince them that god doesn't exist, will they rob, rape and kill me?
- lucas22, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2it depends whether the persons mother/father punished them for doing it when they were young
- eOgas, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Secular Humanism baby!
- ledguitar, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13A similar thing happened to me. I was in a restaurant in the lobby waiting to be seated. There were about 10 other people in there. Another guy who I'd never met or seen before was also waiting and he just walked up to me and handed me one of those orange pocket bibles. He didn't hand it to anyone else in the lobby though. I am an atheist but there was no way he could have known that. And when he handed it to me, he said "Make sure you read this" and then he left. It was really weird
- cranium, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7"No thanks I'm trying to quit."
- Akaji, on 10/10/2007, -17/+1This was cool when it was on Digg about 2 years ago.
- vinwal, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2Do you want to know what caused the ruin of our once great and respected nation? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560 ... It is a long documentary but well worth the time.
- durmer, on 10/10/2007, -13/+1bury
- lcarsdeveloper, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4You want me to bury your comment? Ok done, you're welcome!
- BordrGuy108, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Arrogance for the win. Comment buried.
- eclectro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Everybody digging this to the front page of Digg knows that this is a HOAX don't they???
http://peninsulaclarion.com/stories/030907/oped_03 ...- Abaddon1125, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I hate how they say that Atheism is a "choice," like believing in something is a switch you can turn on or off.
- eOgas, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0LOL! It was a joke?! I guess one day she just said, "Hmm, I think I wanna piss off athiests today."
- esbern1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1so let me get this right. you basically listen to what your mom says, as she is apparently anti-religion as well. it is this very reason that we can't stand people our age spouting ***** about religion, as they didn't think for themselves, but followed their parents. have you ever tried christianity? oh, it sucks, and is ridiculous, but don't talk about how awesome you are just b/c you listen to your mother.
- Haecceity, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yes, it's a hoax. I've posted two comments pointing out the same thing. And yet the Digging goes on. So much for the wisdom of crowds. 3000 people shouting and no one listening.
- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -10/+169Above comment posted in wrong ***** story. Guess that's what I get for looking at two atheism related stories at once.
- SheilaNoya, on 11/11/2007, -28/+709Wow. Religion sure has changed from when I was growing up. It used to be all about love and helping your fellow man. The Evangelicals have now turned Christianity into a religion of fear and hate. That's sad.
- Xvash2, on 10/10/2007, -4/+55Interesting. Not only have the Christian leaders turned their religion into a place of fear and hate, but they've also done it with our very country. Fear the terrorists, hate the muslims. Fear the criminals, hate the atheists.
- Nossie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18Are the atheists the next Jews ?
- troye, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I think we are.
- GliTCH82, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Time to found a nation for atheists?
- Plinkotic, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Free disgusting porn in every home, 24/7! Professional Cathouse Brothels, hashcafes, and liquor stores! All religions welcome, just shut the ***** up about it! :D
- jp007, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Hold that thought.... It's time for the 2 minutes hate.
- Nossie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18Are the atheists the next Jews ?
- chyya, on 10/10/2007, -6/+71where have you been the last 1800 years? religion hasnt been about love and helping ever since jesus left.
- Tricky, on 10/10/2007, -24/+3I don't know what religion you've signed up for, but my Roman Catholic church is all about love and helping.
- zigspective, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16So during that Spanish Inquisition they weren't actually trying to burn people at the stake? I guess all those protestants and jews just looked chilly.
- bigbadgoat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13@Tricky
really? My Roman Catholic church is about raping little boys.
- bigbadgoat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13@Tricky
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6You DO know your church's history, don't you? I'd think that if you dug into it's history far enough, you wouldn't be so quick to say that. This is a organization that has not only been involved in wars, but has even had internal wars (between Popes).
- zigspective, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16So during that Spanish Inquisition they weren't actually trying to burn people at the stake? I guess all those protestants and jews just looked chilly.
- WolfDV, on 10/10/2007, -5/+20Right. . .nowadays, the Roman Catholic Church is all about the "loving" of little-boys by their Priests.
- chyya, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2raping little boys seems to be a trend in the USA only. i have more respect for the roman catholics in other countries because theyre about power and money. not about raping.
- Tricky, on 10/10/2007, -24/+3I don't know what religion you've signed up for, but my Roman Catholic church is all about love and helping.
- uptonm, on 10/10/2007, -4/+24It still is for many of us, Sheila. For every mean spirited bigot that uses religion as a guise for his agenda, or similar, there is an honest person who is simply living the life he believes to be right, and trying to do good in the world. The mean ones get the press.
- resplence, on 10/10/2007, -2/+29And the good ones do nothing to stop them. They're hurting your image, and you just let them? Then don't complain when atheists generalize.
- uptonm, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16It should be apparent that there is bigotry on both sides. Hopefully that bigotry would be apparent to the atheists who cry bigotry about religious people. Unfortunately, as with everything, best case scenario not always the case. Many atheists are tolerant, many others are not. Yeah there needs to be more education about tolerance and understanding in both camps. I do what I can on a small level to let people know not all religious people are that way. This is about all I can afford to do at this point, I do have a busy life.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17I defend atheists right to exist all the time. Others do as well. It just so happens that the attackers are often louder than the defenders
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Wow- this is the third thread I've been in where level headed thinking has won the day and the conversation hasn't degraded into hatred and name calling. Something is amiss on digg. ;)
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I know what you mean! I think the internet is finally getting smarter! Or..at least Digg is.
- dmeyers, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1That's a bunch of *****. I don't spout my mouth of about every god damn crazy person I meet. If someone I knew was apologizing for other people of their race/religion/ethnicity I'd think they were a prick.
I'm glad my Korean friend is telling me he is different than the Kim Jong Il supporters, I never would have been able to figure that out.
And thank god my black friend told me that he doesn't like the black guys who deal drugs.
And thank god I apologize to every person of a different race because some white people are racists.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -4/+18I agree completely. The real christians don't have a reason to go to the press because they are supposed to forgive everyone who they think sinned against them.
I am a christian. I do not hate atheists. I do not try to change people's beliefs. I keep an open mind to things like the big bang, abortion, evolution and stem cell research. I don't think the government should be concern about gays getting married. And believe me I am not alone
There are plenty of Christians just like me. People who take pride in their faith and use it to become a better person. One who does not steal or kill or commit adultery. That's all people like me care about.
And I am sure there are plenty of good hearted atheists who refuse to steal, kill and commit adultery as well. I just wish more of those people would speak up when their fellow atheists attack us. Because attacking anyone's beliefs when they aren't hurting anyone is wrong no matter what side you are on.- eyepower, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13I like the general theme of your thoughts, but "when athiests attack us"? Are u often attacked by athiests? It would seem the only thing athiests are really bothered by is the forceful nature of evangelism. That is what not just athiests but agnostics, budhists, pastafarians, toaists, don'tgiveafukists, etc attack. I think that, generally, athiests pity believers more than attack them. but hey, thanks for keeping an open mind.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Every time a Christian is called stupid, immature, illogical simply for believing God exists or even more simply for believing that Jesus, real or not, was correct, I consider an attack. No man, christian, budhist, taoist, hindu or what have you, should ever feel they are not welcome or feel they are ignorant or stupid because of the beliefs they choose to follow. Nor should any man feel they have a duty to make sure everyone on earth believes the same thing they do. It's simply up to the individual to do what is write and in the end everything balances out.
- Batfishy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Us atheists are not really very violent. We bite back lately, maybe, but that has a lot to do with Bush and the way his God got him elected.
- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3@last paragraph:
Finally, something Atheists and Christians can agree on. I was starting to think it was hopeless.
- eyepower, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13I like the general theme of your thoughts, but "when athiests attack us"? Are u often attacked by athiests? It would seem the only thing athiests are really bothered by is the forceful nature of evangelism. That is what not just athiests but agnostics, budhists, pastafarians, toaists, don'tgiveafukists, etc attack. I think that, generally, athiests pity believers more than attack them. but hey, thanks for keeping an open mind.
- resplence, on 10/10/2007, -2/+29And the good ones do nothing to stop them. They're hurting your image, and you just let them? Then don't complain when atheists generalize.
- Shirt, on 10/10/2007, -8/+2sorry, commented in wrong box.
- joegibes, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13"Religion" has turned into what you said...
That's why following Christ's teachings rather than what your church spouts is the way to go.- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Tis a very true statement. Infact for my fellow Christians out there here is some homework:
Find a place in the Bible where Jesus specifically says you can only believe in The Christian God to go to heaven.
And here is assignment #2: Find a single time in the Bible where Jesus condems homosexuals to hell.
And Assignment #3: find a single time where Jesus says life begins at conception
It's amazing how much the church has misled christians into believing those three points are what Jesus himself said. But no where in the bible is Jesus quoted as saying that at all. Read the bible, interpret it on your own. It's the only way to get the least biased view of your own religion. You're free to believe anything you want but please don't credit any of those beliefs to that of Jesus Christ because there is little evidence that is what he believed.- Fieri, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Assignment 1: "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes to the Father but by Me."
Assignment 2: You win.
Assignment 3: "Yahweh called me when I was in the womb, before my birth he had pronounced my name." Isaiah 49:1- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -3/+31: Ah! Congrats you gave the most popular answer to assignment 1! He says he is the guide to heaven and he is the gate keeper. in effect through his teachings you are gaurenteed access to heaven and as the teacher he is also the one who gives you your grade and determines if you pass or not. He does not say it is impossible to get through to heaven without knowing of him or without learning of his beliefs. In fact he seems to imply the opposite in Matthew 19:16 where it says "And now a man came up and asked him, 'Master, what good must I do to gain eternal life?' 'Good?' said Jesus. 'Why do you ask me about that? one alone is good. But if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.' 'Which commandments?' he asked. Jesus answered, 'Do not murder; do not commit adultery; do not steal; do not give false evidence; honour your father and mother; and love your neighbour as yourself.'" That is every commandment he lists as nessisary to get into heaven. Notice he left out a few. Amongst the ones he left out was the big one. You shall have no other God. Why? Why did Jesus leave out what is supposed to be the biggest commandment? It seems unlikely he forgot. It seems unlikely he messed up answering the single most important question in christianity "How do I get to heaven".
2: Of course I do
3: life begins in the womb. No one doubts that. But life begining at conception is something completely different. does life begin the moment the sperm touches the egg. The bible does not say and thus this should be left to your own moral code. Personally I believe it does but this believe should not be accredited to that of Jesus christ or the bible. - uninvolved, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2@TheTaoOfBill, I think Fieri's point was bigger than what you realize. Take your explanation of Number 1. You had to go through and systematically explain to Fieri how to interpret that piece of scripture. In doing so, you became his leader, if he so believed it. You see now? This ***** inspires control, deceit, and underhanded acts of trying to persuade and control people, without the people even realizing it. I mean, no offense to you Bill, but you tried to convince Fieri of your beliefs. You didn't push it on him or anything, but I just saw this as a perfect, kind of everyday subtle attempt to persuade and control. Of course, you didn't realize it. I just thought it was interesting to point out.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Good point!
I should mention that my beliefs are my own and you can choose to follow them or choose to think I'm dead wrong. My goal isn't to get followers though. My goal is simply to get people to think for themselves instead of allowing someone to spoon feed beliefs to you. I'm not here to spoon feed you my beliefs. I'm no profit or preist. I'm certainly not the voice of God. My goal is not to spread my beliefs but to show you that the church is taking a moral stand on a lot of issues where Jesus makes no reference to. And though I agree with a lot of the moral stands of the church (and disagree with a few as well) I think the church is causing more harm than good by forcing their baseless morals on all Christians and making baseless claims that if we don't agree with their moral stances that we will burn in the fiery lake. I want the church to stop trying to control Christians instead of teaching them. - TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Also while religion has been used to control a lot it has also caused a lot of good. It really, like anything, depends on who the leader is. Control and leadership on it's own is not really a bad thing. But when the leader is someone like Osama Bin Ladin or Hitler things get a little hectic.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -3/+31: Ah! Congrats you gave the most popular answer to assignment 1! He says he is the guide to heaven and he is the gate keeper. in effect through his teachings you are gaurenteed access to heaven and as the teacher he is also the one who gives you your grade and determines if you pass or not. He does not say it is impossible to get through to heaven without knowing of him or without learning of his beliefs. In fact he seems to imply the opposite in Matthew 19:16 where it says "And now a man came up and asked him, 'Master, what good must I do to gain eternal life?' 'Good?' said Jesus. 'Why do you ask me about that? one alone is good. But if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.' 'Which commandments?' he asked. Jesus answered, 'Do not murder; do not commit adultery; do not steal; do not give false evidence; honour your father and mother; and love your neighbour as yourself.'" That is every commandment he lists as nessisary to get into heaven. Notice he left out a few. Amongst the ones he left out was the big one. You shall have no other God. Why? Why did Jesus leave out what is supposed to be the biggest commandment? It seems unlikely he forgot. It seems unlikely he messed up answering the single most important question in christianity "How do I get to heaven".
- Fieri, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Assignment 1: "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes to the Father but by Me."
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Tis a very true statement. Infact for my fellow Christians out there here is some homework:
- Beakerz, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8The lady that wrote that is just plain ignorant. I myself grew up in a completely baptist family and community and was a Christian until somewhere between 17-18 years old and I have never known a single person who is Christian that has such radical, ignorant, hateful beliefs as this "Shannon" lady. Morally I think for the most part Christians (maybe just Baptists as thats pretty much all I've known) are great, honest people, but logically/scientifically.....thats another story. I myself would call myself a Diest, I believe that there is something out there, maybe not God, but something and I believe that they take no part in our world - at least until there is a more believable theory as to how the world came to be, because in my opinion the "Big Bang" theory is just illogically trash.
"Shannon" is just ignorant or joking.- stealth210, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0" I myself would call myself a Diest, I believe that there is something out there, maybe not God, but something and I believe that they take no part in our world - at least until there is a more believable theory as to how the world came to be, because in my opinion the "Big Bang" theory is just illogically trash."
Agree with this statement and would have made it myself had I not been so lazy to make it myself.- Batfishy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2The big bang theory isn't more crazy than some kind of magical, mystical, vengeful, jealous, selfish, spoiled and petulant supernatural being simply waving his hand and creating mankind just as we are now. Then creating light 4 days later. I mean, c'mon... Which is crazier, really?
- iamafatguy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1...
- Batfishy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2The big bang theory isn't more crazy than some kind of magical, mystical, vengeful, jealous, selfish, spoiled and petulant supernatural being simply waving his hand and creating mankind just as we are now. Then creating light 4 days later. I mean, c'mon... Which is crazier, really?
- iamafatguy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The "Big Bang Theory" postulated background radiation before we had the technology to detect it. Then, when the technology caught up with the theory, well, there it was. Theories make predictions, are falsifiable, and can be tested. There is one example, of many, where it was tested, and found valid.
But you have every right to your opinion. That doesn't mean it is based in fact, or reason.
- stealth210, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0" I myself would call myself a Diest, I believe that there is something out there, maybe not God, but something and I believe that they take no part in our world - at least until there is a more believable theory as to how the world came to be, because in my opinion the "Big Bang" theory is just illogically trash."
- Frnnkdlxx, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16"None of the Founding Fathers were atheists. Most of the Founders were Deists, which is to say they thought the universe had a creator, but that he does not concern himself with the daily lives of humans, and does not directly communicate with humans, either by revelation or by sacred books. They spoke often of God, (Nature's God or the God of Nature), but this was not the God of the bible. They did not deny that there was a person called Jesus, and praised him for his benevolent teachings, but they flatly denied his divinity. Some people speculate that if Charles Darwin had lived a century earlier, the Founding Fathers would have had a basis for accepting naturalistic origins of life, and they would have been atheists. Most of them were stoutly opposed to the bible, and the teachings of Christianity in particular. "
http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html - RockJohny, on 10/10/2007, -5/+0and then you have closet atheists who uses religion like his bitch just to get votes
- the6thReplicant, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1You mean like the Bush Administration?
- drakethegreat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Its funny you mentioned that because I was raised catholic and went to catholic school and a guy I know said that christian schools are failures if I can come out of it and say I'm not a christian... He said we should all be home schooled to solve the problem LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
- BESTenemy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Love thy inquisition.
- tim620, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3(/sarcasm) Yes. Because this woman speaks for every evangelical Christian. (/sarcasm) I am an evangelical Christian myself and I find this article offensive. There is a freedom of religion in this country. If you don't believe in a god, that is your prerogative. Nobody should be forced out of this country because of religion (or lack thereof).
P.S. Just so you know, it is a small minority of evangelicals who are full of "fear and hate", but they are the ones who make the news. - Haecceity, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It's a hoax: http://peninsulaclarion.com/stories/030907/oped_03 ...
- ruz322, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Not all Christians are like that woman though. To say that they are is as general of a statement as saying that all atheists are completely ignorant which is definitely the case. I'm definitely not an atheist, I'm a very strong and public Christian. I do want to reach out to atheists but my reaching out is not a closed minded one like this moronic lady's letter. I come to you in concern and love rather than hate and closed-mindedness.
- Xvash2, on 10/10/2007, -4/+55Interesting. Not only have the Christian leaders turned their religion into a place of fear and hate, but they've also done it with our very country. Fear the terrorists, hate the muslims. Fear the criminals, hate the atheists.
- meshman, on 10/10/2007, -126/+13.
- ElbridgeGerry, on 10/10/2007, -9/+45This comment displays the average size of an evangelical's compassion.
- arcooke, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5-compassion, +brain
- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4I just sympathized with TaoOfBill's comment inside ShiellaNoya's comment tree. Therefore, I am somewhat obligated to respond in the following matter.
That's a bit mean isn't it? - TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Actually I think a lot of evangelicals are idiots.
Or at the very least a lot of idiots in this country are evangelicals. I hate making generalized statements like that so hopefully someone will prove me wrong as I don't know too many evangelicals. I'm talking strictly about the God Hates Fags crowd and similar groups that are pretty much single handedly pushing the anti-Christian movement forward.
I really hope those people learn to be true Christians and stop judging people.
- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4I just sympathized with TaoOfBill's comment inside ShiellaNoya's comment tree. Therefore, I am somewhat obligated to respond in the following matter.
- arcooke, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5-compassion, +brain
- whataboutdave, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18This is why I come to Digg. Profound discourse.
- Ulisses, on 10/10/2007, -1/+46You've got a point.
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2A "decimal point"! Yark!
Sorry, everyone. :(
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2A "decimal point"! Yark!
- FallenWings, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11I just spent 30 seconds looking for the "Show Comment" link. Boy do I feel like an ass.
- oneoverzero, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Buried as inaccurate
- anonimo99992000, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1?
- ophello, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4that about sums up my will to engage in religious debate on digg
- ElbridgeGerry, on 10/10/2007, -9/+45This comment displays the average size of an evangelical's compassion.
- atdigg, on 11/11/2007, -14/+358Religion of love and compassion strikes again.
- Frnnkdlxx, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12I like how she was lovingly and passionately hateful against the last vestige of reason in this country.
- Chewie67, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Indeed. Ignorance at it's finest.
- parkermauney, on 10/26/2007, -4/+2404's sure look good in a frame.
- Haecceity, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Hoax: http://peninsulaclarion.com/stories/030907/oped_03 ...
- felman87, on 11/11/2007, -6/+418Pretty sure Ben Franklin would disagree with her.
- cpugeek2214, on 10/26/2007, -0/+41Ben Franklin is a huge hero and idol of mine. He had great views on what America would stand for and what it meant to him. My favorite quote ever is from him. "They who can give up essential liberty for a little temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security."
- Fieri, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1Funny how he managed to say all of those things while working for the Crown to subvert the Revolution.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 10/10/2007, -5/+21So true. Ben Fanklin left Massachussetts during the time when they were burning witches. Though he thought himself a Christian, and continually chided himself for his weakness for women. He also thought the abuse of religion the most dangerous thing.
- millyuns, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Nope, Ben converted to Deism-a belief that there was a god but that he was unconcerned with life on our planet and that the bible would be listed under the category of fiction.
- MrPeach, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Sorry to differ, dude, but old Ben was born in 1706, by which time the witch burning craze had burned itself out.
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1No puns intended, I take it?
- diggimator, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Both millyuns and MrPeach are right. Ben Franklin was born after the Salem Witchcraft Trials AND neither himself nor others considered him a Christian:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_Witchcraft_Tria ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin
Others questioned traditional Christian beliefs (e.g. Thomas Jefferson), but he was the only signer of the declaration of independence who strongly indentified as non-Christian.
- nullx42, on 10/26/2007, -0/+23And Thomas Jefferson.
for any christian/North American diggers that dont know already:
http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html- xister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Wow- this is the first I've heard of the Treaty of Tripoli and Article 11.
Article 11 reads:
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
Straight from the founding fathers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Wow- this is the first I've heard of the Treaty of Tripoli and Article 11.
- cpugeek2214, on 10/26/2007, -0/+41Ben Franklin is a huge hero and idol of mine. He had great views on what America would stand for and what it meant to him. My favorite quote ever is from him. "They who can give up essential liberty for a little temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security."
- mishabear, on 11/11/2007, -11/+253She probably "learned" all she wrote in the letter at church.
- bigfkncee, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Probably? No, Definitely
- mo245, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8To bad they don't teach on how to read a dictionary, or Google "define:freedom" " the condition of being free; the power to act or speak or think without externally imposed restraints, exemption: immunity from an obligation or duty "
- carterbaldwin, on 10/14/2007, -8/+127not sure who she's writing too - can't she have god smite us all?
Though, I suppose if she waits long enough, she'll get to see us burn in the fires of hell when Jesus descends to take all of his followers up to heaven. Because Jesus was all about burning people alive.- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Dugg for "Jesus was all about burning people alive". Yeah, unfortunately, this does seem to be the prevailing opinion in much of the US... It's almost as if they find the idea of sending others to Hell more attractive than the prospect of going to Heaven.
- Memitim, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11That's why I don't get why these religionauts give a ***** about us atheists. You people are going to be ascending to heaven and all of that other crap so this world is going to be ours anyway. How about you folks ***** off now, say to the bottom of the ocean, and go to your wonderful reward that much sooner?
- obeythefist, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2She's writing to all of us. Reminding us of what happens when you allow the fringe religious groups to think the country belongs to them. Which we've done a great job of over the last 6 years.
Religion can be a good thing. But not in the hands of a lunatic like this. And definitely not as part of our government. - scott2007, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0Jesus was *not* "all about burning people alive," but it is the consequence, in a metaphorical way, of people who embrace cruelty and selfishness. Jesus was trying to get people to love each other.
- HowieHardcore, on 11/11/2007, -4/+518"Freedom of religion means... you must believe [in God]". Hilarious.
- Crimsoneer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+78Not only that, but notice how she doesn't seem to include Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or anything else in her list of deist religions:p
- Pake, on 10/10/2007, -1/+44I'm insulted with no mention of the FSM, Pink Unicorn, or Russell's Teapot.
- brad3378, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9spaghetti monster?
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Church of the SubGenius here- can we get some respect please?
- brad3378, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9spaghetti monster?
- preisler, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19You mean Theist. From wiki: "Deists typically reject supernatural events (prophecy, miracles) and tend to assert that God does not interfere with human life and the laws of the universe"
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Thomas Jefferson FTW!!!
- Pake, on 10/10/2007, -1/+44I'm insulted with no mention of the FSM, Pink Unicorn, or Russell's Teapot.
- u8myfoood, on 10/10/2007, -2/+30Well if she takes the Bill of Rights that literally I guess we can all yell "fire" in theaters again.
- 1337Einstein, on 10/10/2007, -0/+23Finally! Theater has become so lackluster and trite in recent years, this ought to really spice things up.
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Hey, I thoroughly enjoyed "Lease". It informed me of the fact that everybody has AIDS, which I consider invaluable information.
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The gays and the straights and whites and the spades...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=piChUkmYjVI
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The gays and the straights and whites and the spades...
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Hey, I thoroughly enjoyed "Lease". It informed me of the fact that everybody has AIDS, which I consider invaluable information.
- Fieri, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7To clear up a common misconception, the inability to yell fire in a crowded theater is not a limitation on the 1st Amendment. It's the perogative of the business owner.
I fear that one day, yelling "the government is carting people off to camps" will be shoved under that umbrella.
- 1337Einstein, on 10/10/2007, -0/+23Finally! Theater has become so lackluster and trite in recent years, this ought to really spice things up.
- goblindegook, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13She probably thinks freedom of speech means she can't shut her trap either. Which, given the thought put into her letter, is rather unfortunate.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Honestly I think this is satire. It's just too intelligently stupid.
- tobdubois, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3So the trolls have moved to the "letters to the editor", sweet.
- S1ngular1ty1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Hahha, I can't believe someone can be so thick headed. This is unbelievable. What is wrong with the world.
- orxor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I wonder if I can believe that I am god.
- ophello, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1sure you can. but dont ask me to wash your feet.
- Loonacy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1God doesn't ask. He commands.
- ophello, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1sure you can. but dont ask me to wash your feet.
- Crimsoneer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+78Not only that, but notice how she doesn't seem to include Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or anything else in her list of deist religions:p
- Okari, on 11/11/2007, -13/+334"Get off our country."
With pleasure. Enjoy Emperor Bush.- Rezistik, on 10/10/2007, -5/+20I was thinking thee same thing, outta here the moment i turn 18
- Shirt, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17I hear that all the time and you're all full of *****. You'll be here forever just like everybody else.
Why don't you start by explaining to me the process you have to go through to move to another country? Do you even have a passport?- millyuns, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4You mean the part where you just get there and ask for asylum?
- Batfishy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3It's not really that hard to get a passport and travel and decide to stay. I mean, it is not hard for us atheists to figure it out.
- Fieri, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2Sure you are. Even if you could or would leave, why not stay and help us out when this thing goes violent? The IDEA of America is the greatest thing humanity has ever seen.
- Shirt, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17I hear that all the time and you're all full of *****. You'll be here forever just like everybody else.
- davidk2, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Can you take me with you? Which country shall we goto?
- FrodoBongins, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Lets go to amsterdam for the hookers and weed.....err i mean freedom of religion
- ogremidget, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2And freedom of STDs.
- AK10, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10In most countries where prostitution is legal they are routinely tested by the government for STDs.
- ogremidget, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2And freedom of STDs.
- digggggggggg, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Pretty much every country in Europe looks damn appealing.
- Coslenchip, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1Yea, there's nothing like 70-80% of your income going to the government.
- bysin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14I say we go to Sweden and form a huge digg community.
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11To hell with all that, let's just all pitch in and buy Madagascar.
- 3toe, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1bury me.
- quaxon, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3im going to spain or portugal, depending on which language i get better at.
here you might need this:
http:/digg.com/world_news/How_to_Renounce_Your_American_Citizenship - tyywebb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Australia for me I think.
- ZMerlin, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Naah, don't come over here mate.
Go somewhere where there are already a lot of Americans... like uhhh Iraq or something.
"Redback, Funnel-Web, Blue-ringed octopus
Taipan, Tigersnake and a Box jellyfish
Stonefish and the poison thing that lives in a shell
That spikes you when you pick it up
Come to Australia
You might accidentally get killed" - gromnie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Ah yes, the country so free they're censoring the entire Internet, just like China.
Yeah, that sounds like a great option. - the6thReplicant, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Wait until after the next election
- ZMerlin, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Naah, don't come over here mate.
- FrodoBongins, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Lets go to amsterdam for the hookers and weed.....err i mean freedom of religion
- reubencm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19come chill in NZ, next census we will be over 50 percent agnostic, and aparently are taking steps towads taking references to god out of our national anthem
- hoax689, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3hell yeah brother i aint ever leaving New Zealand is the greatest
- whitehornmatt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Science Defend New Zealand?
- Slyer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yeah it's awesome here, from what I've seen we are accepting of all religions.
But destiny church? They have to go, seriously.- lucas22, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1that sounds choice
- jetboyterp, on 10/10/2007, -13/+6How the hell does Bush come into this?? A deranged woman writes a stupid letter, and yet...as usual....it's "Bush's fault!"
Good riddance to rez and david, I'll drive ya to the airport!- S1ngular1ty1, on 10/10/2007, -10/+3I agree, it is getting a bit old. Just wait until one of the other stooges are elected. Everyone will be blaming them for problems as well. It never changes.
- millyuns, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2That would be a completely legitimate statement if the Religious Right helps to get said next stooge elected.
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1edit
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Are you guys intoning that Bush has no ties to the religious right? Because last I heard, he's soaking in it.
- millyuns, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2That would be a completely legitimate statement if the Religious Right helps to get said next stooge elected.
- pixelate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Bush loves to cite God overtly in his plans for "freedom on the march" in the Middle East, has opened up the government to unprecedented cooperation with "faith-based organizations" and has sent much of our foreign aid money to missionary organizations that don't help people unless they listen to their religious lectures. Talking about Bush on this page is completely relevant.
- qwerter, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4He didn't say it was Bush's fault. He's saying he's leaving this country, and he doesn't like the president. Two different thoughts. Not exactly on topic, but no blame was implied.
Read it again. Or, you could just keep jumping to conclusions.
- S1ngular1ty1, on 10/10/2007, -10/+3I agree, it is getting a bit old. Just wait until one of the other stooges are elected. Everyone will be blaming them for problems as well. It never changes.
- laxmaniac3773, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9first mexicans, now atheists. what is wrong with people
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1The fact that they haven't been run over yet.
YEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! - Yazilliclick, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Well you see it's a master plan to ruin the US. First you get rid of all the mexicans (ie. people that work) then you get rid of all the atheists (ie. the scientists that come up with new stuff) and then you're bassically left with rednecks? (just joking btw :P)
- uninvolved, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7That was actually, a valid statement. A scary one as well.
- TheRealToma, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Feel bad for those poor Mexican atheists!
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1The fact that they haven't been run over yet.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Seriously I am getting so frustrated with our generation...don't run away! Take action! Take our country back. You keep running away and eventually you will run out of places to run to. We need to prove to the world that democracy does work for the sake of our children. Don't be a bunch of pussies.
- Arachnivore, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I'm sort of on the fence about this. Our political system is so damaged that it would take an enormous revolt to turn it around. While it is disheartening to see only apathy in response to our rapidly deteriorating democracy. The truth is that it would take more than just a good president or even a few good senators to repair. What we're experiencing is the conflict between democracy and capitalism where democracy is losing. The government now serves the military industrial complex, the health insurance companies, the oil industry, and countless other special interests. not the people. These are special interests have formed Iron triangles that take a nearly unilateral effort to dismantle.
Catering to special interests has bled our country's economy dry as we poor billions upon billions into war. Our economy is on the verge of collapse. Why would I stay? The pure Ideas that America was built on (freedom, justice, and equality) have long since bled across her boarders. I just wouldn't feel right joining the American work force and paying taxes to feed a relentless war machine that causes suffering around the globe.- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You're right. But change is coming. I can feel it. And I certainly want to be a part of it.
- YawehsDead, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Arachnivore is making a whole lot of sense. Still, your comment made my hair stand on end as I'm planning to leave the U.S next year possibly never to return.
- MikiMac, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I for one vote for bringing into service Guillotines, and take some political heads off in Times Square!
I am so fed up with our government, I really wont feel any sorrow for the dead.
we can put them in glass jars, just like in Futurama :)
- Arachnivore, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I'm sort of on the fence about this. Our political system is so damaged that it would take an enormous revolt to turn it around. While it is disheartening to see only apathy in response to our rapidly deteriorating democracy. The truth is that it would take more than just a good president or even a few good senators to repair. What we're experiencing is the conflict between democracy and capitalism where democracy is losing. The government now serves the military industrial complex, the health insurance companies, the oil industry, and countless other special interests. not the people. These are special interests have formed Iron triangles that take a nearly unilateral effort to dismantle.
- zeromancer, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2anyone know how to become a Canadian?
(i can't ***** believe it has come to this) - greg88, on 10/10/2007, -10/+1you guys need a ride to the airport? oh wait you cant take a plane since it will further global warming sooo um walk i guess. Wont miss you atheist liberals hippies at all, enjoy socialism
- perversatile, on 10/15/2007, -2/+5Hey guys look! I found another one of those ***** retards that voted for bush! Let's poke it with a stick.
- xister, on 10/15/2007, -1/+1Oh, I feel soooo insulted by the guy that can't even operate a caps button properly...
- perversatile, on 10/15/2007, -2/+5Hey guys look! I found another one of those ***** retards that voted for bush! Let's poke it with a stick.
- Rezistik, on 10/10/2007, -5/+20I was thinking thee same thing, outta here the moment i turn 18
- juicebag, on 10/10/2007, -54/+4Good pic, but it has been on digg at least 100 times.
- akinder, on 10/10/2007, -14/+12It's also fake, but hey don't let that get in the way of a good Christian bash on digg.
- Shirt, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3So what you do is create a fake Atheist bash in order to incite a Christian bash? I'm sorry, but how is that even remotely better than Atheist bashing? The problem with Atheists is that they bunch into their groups and bash Christians as though they are all bigots and hypocrites. When you bash someone because you have a misguided preconception that they are bashing you, you are just as filthy a hypocrite as they are, and that's just pathetic.
It's a newsflash to most of you but all Christians are not the same. Some of us (such as myself) have no problem living with everyone else in peace. According to my Bible (unlike most Christians, my faith lies in the teachings of the Bible and not some denominational doctrine), it's not my job to judge anyone (that task is left to God). Why so many Christians today don't heed this is beyond me, but why all you atheists feel like you have to lower yourself to that level of useless and moronic bashing is also beyond me.- millyuns, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Which Bible?
- Tack122, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Er, just curious but where do you figure that all atheists are the same but not all Christians?
I mean, if one group can be diverse I suppose another can't? - glory2God, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1WELL SAID
- re506, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0What exactly leads you to believe that it's fake?
- tacohead, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0it's not fake bonehead. It's from a paper in georgia: http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/102201/opi_04 ...
- Shirt, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3So what you do is create a fake Atheist bash in order to incite a Christian bash? I'm sorry, but how is that even remotely better than Atheist bashing? The problem with Atheists is that they bunch into their groups and bash Christians as though they are all bigots and hypocrites. When you bash someone because you have a misguided preconception that they are bashing you, you are just as filthy a hypocrite as they are, and that's just pathetic.
- glory2God, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2And yet so many people still have so much to say about it.
- akinder, on 10/10/2007, -14/+12It's also fake, but hey don't let that get in the way of a good Christian bash on digg.
- jdoe562, on 10/10/2007, -15/+147"People like this woman is probably a major reason why people like you and I are atheists."
If you "is" (i see what you did there) an atheist because you don't like people like this, then you are stupid. You should be an atheist because it makes logical sense, not because you are butthurt that some religious person said something bad about atheists.- uptonm, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11I was about to say the exact same thing. Major props, in the fight against stupidity.
- KanchoBukkakeku, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17Perhaps it was implying that behavior of this sort in the name of religion might be a catalyst for you questioning your own beliefs.
- uptonm, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Why would it be a catalyst for questioning my own beliefs? This is more of the "logic" that I am fighting against. One person's actions do not necessarily always denote the result of a person believing this or that, it could also denote how closely their actions match their beliefs. And not all christians even believe the same thing. There is way too much complexity involved with religious thought and the actions of a single person, or a number of people that believe wildly varying things, to cause me to even come close to questioning my own beliefs when someone "religious" does something stupid. Christianity unfortunately, is not one single religion. Religion on a whole is not based upon one train of thought, save that generally its believed there is a god. Atheism on a whole is not necessarily one way of thinking. Generally atheists disbelieve in God, but have wildly varying opinions on other aspects of belief, the same as religious people, the same as christian people.
To think I am going to question my own personal beliefs over what some idiot somewhere who professes to believe in God is doing is asinine.
- uptonm, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Why would it be a catalyst for questioning my own beliefs? This is more of the "logic" that I am fighting against. One person's actions do not necessarily always denote the result of a person believing this or that, it could also denote how closely their actions match their beliefs. And not all christians even believe the same thing. There is way too much complexity involved with religious thought and the actions of a single person, or a number of people that believe wildly varying things, to cause me to even come close to questioning my own beliefs when someone "religious" does something stupid. Christianity unfortunately, is not one single religion. Religion on a whole is not based upon one train of thought, save that generally its believed there is a god. Atheism on a whole is not necessarily one way of thinking. Generally atheists disbelieve in God, but have wildly varying opinions on other aspects of belief, the same as religious people, the same as christian people.
- hyaena, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8I think MrSlumberjack was referring to the hypocrisy. (e.g., Jesus loves, yet this Alice hates) It surely was a logical tick in the Athiest column for me.
- preisler, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3You could argue that these kind of religious people is an indication of the non-existance of a deity.
- Shirt, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1You could? Evaluate.
I'm a Christian, but I can tell you I've heard much better arguments against my beliefs than that.- perversatile, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Dugg down. If you need to learn something put down the bible and go to school. Nobody is obligated to "evaluate" their opinions on digg for you.
- Shirt, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1You could? Evaluate.
- goblindegook, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Exactly. But I have to say that, even though her type doesn't give me a reason to not believe in God, it does add to the satisfaction.
- uptonm, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0LOL thats funny. At least you're honest and you make sense.
- scott2007, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0It makes logical sense? How do you logically prove something doesn't exist?
And why are people who have never studied logic always throwing around the word "logic"? - deejqu1k, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Dugg down becasue the word butthurt, is the worst piece of slang in America
- jdoe562, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Dugg down because you, don't know how to, punctuate.
- deadbaby, on 10/10/2007, -21/+68Sounds like she'd get along nicely with Bin Laden.
- grell, on 10/10/2007, -44/+7FAKE
- solis365, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5no, no actually. this same letter was printed in a local newspaper that i read. i dont know if it was from my area, or if the local newspaper gets letters from a national center or something for tiny newspapers who cant get their own material, but i have a copy of it in my house.
- PixelVision, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1It's fake in that it was sent to the newspaper to get a rise out of people.
- pintomp3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2you can't fathom that there are people this idiotic and hateful out there? have you heard pat buchanan lately?
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1How do you know this? Proof please...
- PixelVision, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1It's fake in that it was sent to the newspaper to get a rise out of people.
- solis365, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5no, no actually. this same letter was printed in a local newspaper that i read. i dont know if it was from my area, or if the local newspaper gets letters from a national center or something for tiny newspapers who cant get their own material, but i have a copy of it in my house.
- Cowwan, on 11/06/2007, -4/+96Where does the line start to shove my foot up this woman's ass?
- rmeddy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2We should a line smacking her around like in the movie AIRPLANE and the line get increasingly violent.
- john2kx, on 10/10/2007, -15/+12http://www.duggmirror.com
- JavertHolmes, on 10/10/2007, -18/+59For all you know, this article could be written by a non-christian pretending to be an ignorant christian and pushing the stereotype further. It's fun to jump on stuff like this, but it doesn't really help much with the core rift between religions and those who choose not to observe any formal religion.
On the other hand, assuming this isn't a Photoshop job/parody, the paper that published this likely has a piss-poor department to weed out crap like this.
For the record, I'm agnostic.- graciouspatty, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5I'm sure that before you wrote that, you must have thought "Can I really stretch it that far?".
- Shirt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Or DID he?
- sillywampa, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14I wrote to my local paper once and a reporter called me to verify my response and that I was really a person. The paper that printed this in the Opinions section doesn't have to weed out crap like this if they want to show opposing viewpoints. Sometimes, the ridiculous ones like that generate responses and sell more papers later that week.
- uptonm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1yea I had no doubt it was a real person. sad.
- postjm9, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4As someone who actually spends his (boring) day editing and laying out newspaper pages, "weeding out" letters to the editor basically consists of making sure they don't contain libel or profanity. The only way we can convince people that we don't pick and choose letters that agree with our editorial stance is by running more or less everything that is submitted, from "Thanks to the PTA" to "Mayor is trying to poison us with fluoridated water" (seriously). Of course, people still believe we only run the ones we agree with.
- eOgas, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Actually, that's exactly what happened: http://peninsulaclarion.com/stories/030907/oped_03 ...
- graciouspatty, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5I'm sure that before you wrote that, you must have thought "Can I really stretch it that far?".
- Ibox, on 11/06/2007, -3/+35Believe what you want, screw what you want, Don't believe ***** if you want...
- patthew, on 10/10/2007, -2/+107Well where the crap are we supposed to move to, Rapture?
- h4mx0r, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Only if hell doesn't break loose.
- Phyraxus, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Dugg for bioshock reference.
- Tryptomine, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Yes, because the name Rapture never existed or applied to anything before Bioshock.
- MagicCake, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Point taken, but he actually WAS referring to BioShock, so...
- Asianwaste, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yea the phoenix wright icon is a dead give away that he is indeed a gamer.
- Tryptomine, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Yes, because the name Rapture never existed or applied to anything before Bioshock.
- zman14321, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9No gods or kings, only man.
- darkciti2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Why do you think the NeoCONs are trying to get George W Bush to bomb Iran!??!?! Because Russia said they would support Iran, and because it would bring about GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR WAR - effectively destroying all life on this planet. Including you and your Mom.
The space cadet Christians think it will help their invisible buddy come back !!! Can you believe this *****?!
Please please please, I hope someone is forming a coup in Washington (or better yet at Cheyenne Mountain or Barksdale). Protect our Constitution, NOT the CURRENT government.
- fLUx1337, on 11/06/2007, -8/+45I'm a proud Atheists, IMO theirs no god, no man up in the sky, who nobody has seen, heard or had any real contact with.
But I also have nothing against people who think hes real, they think what they wan't as long as they are happy....- eplawless, on 10/10/2007, -8/+4Congrats on being a proud Atheists dude
- Spymodhf, on 10/10/2007, -5/+9Wow, spellcheck much?
- skunkman62, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3i dont think spell check will catch "their" if you mean "there". i think this person needs a redundant check. "I'm a proud Atheists, IMO theirs no god..."
- uptonm, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22Thanks. I'm a firm believer that there is a God and Christ, but I can appreciate a tolerant atheist.
- teh_techie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Thank you. Your appreciative nature of our tolerance is... appreciated?
- Gaulven, on 10/23/2007, -0/+0I just want to hug everyone in this reply chain. *sniff*
- teh_techie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Thank you. Your appreciative nature of our tolerance is... appreciated?
- resplence, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3If the current trend continues, it seem they will only be happy when people like you are not around anymore, when science comes to a halt, when it's against the law to miss church on Sundays, when there's only one religion etc.
It does not say "Live and let live" in the bible or any other sacred book. - Shirt, on 10/23/2007, -10/+3In your OPINION? Are you like 12 or something and that's what your skater friends told you? The existence of God is not an opinion, it is either true or false. Christianity is not based on the fact that there is proof for a God, it is based on the fact that they have faith in God, and though I am a Christian I can understand how "logical-minded" people would have a problem with that. However, logic is not definite in my opinion, and claiming that Atheism is the only logical path is illogical. Logical is what feels right to me without disrupting anyone else. I have gone through ups and downs where I have questioned my faith, and my personal "logic" has always led me back to Christianity, and I feel like that's significant.
- Genady, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1While I appreciate your sentiment, but, um... No. No, Logic is an absolute, and in being so without compromise down to an ultimate yes or no question it demonstrates it's flaw in evaluating our universe. While I can agree with you that Faith and Spirituality are important, and reaffirmed but personal experience I can't in good consience call these revelations 'logical'. I believe what I believe because for me the evidence is compelling, if not logical. Life, the Universe, everything can not be summed up with logic. That's the reason that the answer make little sense to those who search for a logical answer. For myself, 42 is enough.
- temsi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Actually, everything CAN be summed up with logic, given enough evidence. Just because you don't have enough evidence to explain something right now, doesn't mean the real explanation isn't going to be logical when you finally have all the evidence you need to figure it out. That's how logic works.
Basically, you just said there can be illogical explanations for some things in the universe, and that in and of itself is wholly illogical.- Genady, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Heisenberg pretty much precludes ever having enough evidence. Nice try, but follow the line of thinking all the way through. There's lots of illogical happenings in the quantum realm. As we march to smaller and smaller devices this illogic creaps into the everyday.
- temsi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Actually, everything CAN be summed up with logic, given enough evidence. Just because you don't have enough evidence to explain something right now, doesn't mean the real explanation isn't going to be logical when you finally have all the evidence you need to figure it out. That's how logic works.
- temsi, on 10/23/2007, -1/+6I'm sorry, your "personal logic"?
Are you saying there is more than one logic, each one equal to the other?
Are you saying there is a valid alternative logic that proves 2 plus 2 equals 5?
Logic is not relative. Either something is logical or it is not. It's not a democracy and it does not operate in the "one logic per person" realm.
Atheism IS the only logical conclusion based on the evidence.
There is zero evidence for the existence of a deity, and until there is, we must work under the assumption there is no deity - especially when we know how the idea of a deity came about.
Your personal delusion is not significant to anybody but you, and that's all it is, delusion. You're believing something without even the slightest shred of evidence, and you call it logical. It's not. - ophello, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"Logical is what feels right to me without disrupting anyone else."
Actually, you've used the word incorrectly. Logic requires facts. A BELIEF is what feels right to you. - Asianwaste, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I'm Christian and in my opinion your rationale makes me look bad.
- Genady, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1While I appreciate your sentiment, but, um... No. No, Logic is an absolute, and in being so without compromise down to an ultimate yes or no question it demonstrates it's flaw in evaluating our universe. While I can agree with you that Faith and Spirituality are important, and reaffirmed but personal experience I can't in good consience call these revelations 'logical'. I believe what I believe because for me the evidence is compelling, if not logical. Life, the Universe, everything can not be summed up with logic. That's the reason that the answer make little sense to those who search for a logical answer. For myself, 42 is enough.
- bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Along with God, you also don't beleive in proper spelling, or punctuation.
- rohcky, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Those who live in glass houses should not throw rocks.
- Cowmin, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2Being tolerant of people who believe in God is like being tolerant of people who believed Earth was flat. Don't be afraid to tell someone they're wrong.
- ophello, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5the problem is that we can prove the earth isnt flat. we still cant, nor will we likely ever, disprove an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent intelligence.
- Samsong, on 10/23/2007, -10/+25If you guys weren't assholes I wouldn't hate you too.
- reubencm, on 10/10/2007, -8/+12lawl
- dagetti, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0+12345
She's another Jesus freak with nothing better to do.
- dagetti, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0+12345
- snyper2s, on 10/10/2007, -56/+10WOW what an idiot, over 70% of americans are athiest
- reubencm, on 10/23/2007, -0/+16where the hell did you get that stat from, i mena that would be great but i find that very hard to believe, 70%of americans probably dont know teh difference between athiest and agnostic...
- AceLy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+190% who know there's a difference dunno what an agnostic is.
Then someone will reply and say something about some percent of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Edit: Already happened.
- AceLy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+190% who know there's a difference dunno what an agnostic is.
- Zaxcomp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10As much as I wish that were true, I don't believe you. Please sources.
- dabears1218, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1264% of statistics are made up on the spot.
- reubencm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8i wonder what the ACTUAL percentage is off statistics are made up on the spot.
- lead2thehead, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6... according to the Institute of Pulling Things Our Of Our Ass
- solis365, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3source?
- floridiot2, on 10/10/2007, -5/+48 Bazililion percent of statistics are made up on the spot..
- goblindegook, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Over 80% of statistics are made up on the spot, including this one.
- goblindegook, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Crap, we all posted the same thing at the same time.
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3OH NOES! YOONYVERSE ASPLODES!
- goblindegook, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Crap, we all posted the same thing at the same time.
- tepidpond, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I hate to bury that, 'cause there are a ton of atheists out here...but that was stupid.
- Shirt, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7400% of statistics are made up on the spot.
- ophello, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3i love this thread.
- Loonacy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You just made that up.
- devinjohnson2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I love lamp.
- reubencm, on 10/23/2007, -0/+16where the hell did you get that stat from, i mena that would be great but i find that very hard to believe, 70%of americans probably dont know teh difference between athiest and agnostic...
- dabears1218, on 10/10/2007, -15/+3Gee I wish this woman were my mother.
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Why, for God's sake?!
- zaii7, on 10/23/2007, -8/+76people from alabama are a special breed
- PokerGigolo, on 10/23/2007, -1/+10While I agree with your sentiment, the woman in question is from Alaska. Soldotna is situated on the Kenai River in southern Alaska. You should give Google a try sometime, it's an awesome web site.
- furtherstudios, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1What does any of this have to do with Alabama?
- DrMonkeyLove, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yeah, in...
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Now, when you say "special"...
- Shirt, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1After living in Tennessee just above the Alabama state line most of my life, I feel like I am knowledgeable in this area to agree with you for the most part. You should see their political campaigns.
- firebhaal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1a special inbreed
- firebhaal, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1.
- Shabonkerz, on 10/23/2007, -1/+0I live in Alabama. We have “Religion, morality, and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged.” engraved unto a building on the state's premier university. That was in our first state constitution as well. Half of the student organizations on campus are religious ones. Too bad my prepaid tuition won't cover out of state universities or I'd leave.
- angrytito, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I was gonna write some sort of reply about people taking easy shots at Alabama, because I've lived here all my life and it gets under my skin. But then, I thought about it and realized we do it to ourselves anyway. Ten Commandments Judge, Roy Moore, is the most recent national embarrassment.
But also, we have the longest constitution in the world which was written in 1901 and is a complete travesty. According to the state constitution you cannot carry ice cream in your back pocket on a Sunday, nor is it legal to wear a fake mustache in church if it causes laughter. There were movements to rewrite it a few years ago, but Roy Moore's wife lead a campaign to defeat the movement by saying that a rewrite was an attempt to "remove God from the constitution". It worked.
Also, an attempt to create a state lottery for education was defeated by a push by the Southern Baptist Convention. Part of the campaign was to find other, moral ways to fund education, but after the defeat they admitted they had no "Plan B". Then again, the Democrat governor who pushed the lottery initiative is now in prison on corruption charges. So maybe the defeat was for the best.
It's very frustrating to live here. We spend more money, way more, on road projects than we do on education. The constitution is based on "home rule" which means if County X wants to raise certain taxes, it has to pass a state-wide referendum. There is a religious control to the state, which I personally believe works to keep the populous ignorant.
I guess this little rambling snapshot of Alabama could best be summed up by this statement. In the mid-90's Republican governor Fob James, in response to a ruling by the federal government, actually said "The Bill of Rights does not apply to states." The only reason I stay, besides friends and family, is to hope that one day I could help affect change here. But maybe I'm just a foolish, agnostic democrat.
- patisawesome, on 10/10/2007, -8/+8I hope that person gets struck by lightning then has thier head explode in a horrible act of GOD.
- mastertop, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I tought she should be killed horribly
- Mentosan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+72Can't we all just keep fishing?
- Dylan47, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5"Lets just fish the Kenai river until all the..."
This defines my impression of America. - RonnieW, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0i agree :)
- Dylan47, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5"Lets just fish the Kenai river until all the..."
- samurimaster, on 10/23/2007, -6/+11I guees ive been wrong this hole time Americans are tolerant of one another.......not
- benjic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10When is Hole Time again?
- Dylan47, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9sexy time!
- MagicCake, on 10/10/2007, -0/+66:45 PM. Don't ask me how I know.
- benjic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10When is Hole Time again?
- ultraJesus, on 10/10/2007, -4/+78I'd hit it.
With a shovel.- NewOntario, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Use a cricket bat. It's wider and denser. I've done some damage with one before.
- gfixler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Whoa, are you Casey Jones? Or Shaun of the Dead?
- NewOntario, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Use a cricket bat. It's wider and denser. I've done some damage with one before.
- DaDiggCode, on 10/10/2007, -12/+61. go to http://www.google.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fpicsya ...
2. click on link
3. stick hand to chin and think- JavertHolmes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14I tried it.. was the link supposed to make me think of a bald man with a British accent saying "Engage" while looking at a viewscreen?
- Luciiz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Actually JavertHolmes, I think DaDiggCode was referring to this line - "picsyard.com/ATHEISTS_GET_THE_HELL_OUT_OF_AMERICA - 16 hours ago -"
Notice the 16 hours ago? Notice the Submitted:
14 hr 20 min ago
It was photo shopped and added to this site 1 hour 40 minutes later. This thing is a fake.- evildeadguy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Try again. I remember seeing it quite a while ago.
- Luciiz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Actually JavertHolmes, I think DaDiggCode was referring to this line - "picsyard.com/ATHEISTS_GET_THE_HELL_OUT_OF_AMERICA - 16 hours ago -"
- JavertHolmes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14I tried it.. was the link supposed to make me think of a bald man with a British accent saying "Engage" while looking at a viewscreen?
- whathappened, on 10/10/2007, -8/+31I can see the guy who wrote this has lost it. I dont live in the US and I'm a muslim, but id like to apologise to the athiests.
- ThE0eNiGmA, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4"Gal" - Alice Shannon
- vermax, on 10/10/2007, -17/+1right, you're so much better, basing your worldview on the insane ramblings of some ancient self-styled "prophet".
keep your apology.- kimb00, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I think you're the atheist version of the author of the article. STFU.
- apiecealarry, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Unlike Mr. I-Shoved-a-stick-up-my-ass-because-I-think-I'm-better-than-you above me, apology graciously accepted :)
I don't have any problem with someone having religious or spiritual beliefs, just as long as they don't push them on me - It's always nice to meet someone who's religious and still openminded - Prathik89, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3No need to apologize :) It's always the minority who ***** things up.
- nicksauce, on 10/10/2007, -2/+123Mutes get out of america! yes we have the freedom of speech, but that means you still have to speak!
- mayhemt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Add people without 'bear arms' also ... http://www.metacafe.com/watch/128834/family_guy_ri ...
- mayhemt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Add people without 'bear arms' also ... http://www.metacafe.com/watch/128834/family_guy_ri ...
- MagicBastard, on 10/23/2007, -9/+34This is asinine. I am very proud to be an atheist. I am proud to not need the "crutch" of religion in my daily life. I do however have many close friends that are Christian, Jew, Muslim and I do not force my beliefs on them, but will openly discuss mine when asked. The ***** who wrote this is proof that some of the worst people I've ever met in my life are christians.
- gsensel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Yes... this is the important thing! I personally am a Christian, and do not have any atheist friends, but if I did I will talk with them and engage them in conversations (probably eventually turning into a debate) but as long as it is healthy and not a debate of nothing but attacks it is a good one and we both would be better for it in the end. The writer of that letter is wrong and actually doing what is counter to the teachings of the Bible.
- Pinhedd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Dugg for taking the words right out of my mouth. I have hindu friends, budhist friends, islamic friends and a christian family (although I am athiest).
- insomniac8400, on 10/23/2007, -23/+37Too bad the majority of americans are dumb enough to believe in god.
- SamuraiG, on 10/10/2007, -5/+6pretty much
its a sad country, with alot of dumb people. - bCabulon, on 10/23/2007, -1/+5Too bad there are so many assholes like you who give atheists a bad name.
- KaneElson, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Too bad you are as close minded as the lady in the article.
- SamuraiG, on 10/10/2007, -5/+6pretty much
- Subterfug, on 10/10/2007, -2/+101LOL
Freedom of religion means you can believe in Baptist, Methodist or Catholicism. That's GOLD.- dartmanx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Nah, the Methodists and Catholics are going to hell, too.
SARCASM, People. - thiselena, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Haha, yeah, I lol'd. I couldn't believe she said that. Surely she must be at least a little retarded...?
- analogkid01, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"What kind of music do you have here?"
"Oh, we've got both kinds - Country, *and* Western!" - Eronamanthius, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1So the Jews, mormons, scientologists, and sub-geniuses have to get out too?
- dartmanx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Nah, the Methodists and Catholics are going to hell, too.
- bbqsalad, on 10/23/2007, -23/+32When you die nothing happens. You dont goto "heaven" there is no angels. You ROT. So make the most out of your time here because there is NOTHING waiting for you, Stop making excuses for living such a pathetic life and do something with it. Morons.
- aelder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5And you would be able to prove this how?