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Readers have reported that this story contains information that may not be accurate.U.S.man Claims to be Pregnant -- National Post
nationalpost.com — An Oregon man who used to be a woman says he is pregnant with a baby girl...
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That'll be hard to explain to a girlfriend. Complicated, embarrassing, awkward, yet revolutionary...
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I wonder if the bimonthly testosterone injection will have an affect on the fetus.
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Yah, it will come out with fully developed biceps and an affinity for the WWF.
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Nah. It'll just talk tough on Digg and Slashdot.
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World Wildlife Federation? (It's the WWE now.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wrestling_Enter ...
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I doubt it considering they said he let it all get out of his system before conceiving.
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According to the article, IT stopped the injections before becoming pregnant...
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He stopped the testosterone injections and started menstruating again in order to ovulate. He still probably has higher much higher test than most people with vaginae and uteri have so it will be interesting to see how the kids turn out. Specifically it will be interesting to see their finger length ratios, sexuality, suceptability to depression, etc.
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"...but kept his vagina"
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Who's the father? Er...I mean mother?
And the more important question, who would WANT to conceive a child with that?! -
They'll run as fast as KENYANS, people will watch them running and think they are KENYAN, they'll race as fast as KENYANS against actual KENYANS and it will be a tie and they'll get deported back to KENYAAA!
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Most misleading headline ever.
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I feel bad for that child.
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Yeah, who'd want two loving parents.
Better to just never live, right dumbass?-
And to think that AmishJedi is probably pro-life too.
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That kid will grow up surrounded by the comments of this thread. Right or not, it won't be easy. And loving doesn't mean good.
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Then I feel bad for the narrow minded idiots who make comments like these and discount a person who will undoubtedly have some interesting perspectives and experiences simply because they have parents that are different from their own.
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I bet if you gave the individual the choice between having "normal" parents, or not living at all, he/she will likely reply, "I love my parents and I wouldn't change a thing." The hurtful comments will be hard, especially at youth, but he/she will grow to be a strong individual thanks to the love of his non-traditional parents.
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What? You can't accept the reality people are assuming this kid will grow up being ridiculed for having a man-like mother? Right or wrong it will probably happen.
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come on. Alternative relationships are more socially accepted than they used to be. Besides, kids only repeat what they're taught.
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Actually, probably not. Most female to male transitioned people are hard to differentiate from biological males. As it says in the article, the majority of people in their community and in his partner's family had no idea he was not actually a biological male.
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Kids will always find a reason to pick on each other. If you follow the logic that people shouldn't have kids because they will be picked on, then you also seem to imply that all people who are below the average income level, above the average intelligence level, observe a different religion than the majority of people that surround them or have a different skin color than the majority of people around them also should not have kids. I find that quite ridiculous.
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I feel sorry for your parents
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I feel bad for that child...Only gays are digging you down man
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Can all the comments to the parent post realize, that it's simply a awkward situation to grow up in and thats what the parent post is referring to.
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Or maybe you can just realize what AmishJedi said is crap, and there are a lot of children that need to be felt bad for before one that has a family, is healthy, and is loved.
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Dude... life itself is awkward no matter who you are. The only "normal" state is dysfunction. Anyone who would counter that by saying that they're normal is suspect.
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What if I don't think that different is not abnormal?
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Wrong comment!
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which one is the father?
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Why?
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So...uh...how do we get it out?
Edit: sorry, just read the article, he kept the vagina-
You say 'kept the vagina' like it was a real viable choice. Surgery for female-to-male transgender people is very poor. It's difficult to create a penis. (But easy to create a dick? eh..)
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Bet you never thought you'd say that. "he kept..."
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So if "he" kept that....exactly what makes "him" a "he"?
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Aparently you don't need a the propper sex organs to be a gender--you only need to right horomond levels *rolls eyes at the government*
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Yeah, that and the obvious point that the number of women who get c-sections in the US is nearing 50%...the reason I told my doc about 50 times that I didn't want one (when in doubt, they always cut)
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where's Danny Devito in all of this?
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WTF.
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Like + picture? Awesome.
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Should be labeled NSFW, has a picture of a topless flat chested prego chick with a bad haircut.
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It's not a GUY, it's a WOMAN. A woman with high testosterone levels, but a woman nonetheless. You're not a guy unless you have a dick. This "guy" has a vagina. I don't care what he/she thinks he/she is mentally. What matters here is that this person was born a woman, and has all the parts of a woman, which makes this a complete non-story.
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SO he still has a vagina?
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"but kept his vagina" RTFA
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Its called a Man-gina
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If it has a vag, then scientifically its a "she" not a "he". Dressing up as a man and having her ***** chopped off doesn't change the fact that she's a female.
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There is a difference between sex and gender. You don't usually say, "That female is hot." You say, "She is hot." You say she because the person you are talking about is presenting her gender as feminine. You address her as she despite the fact that you don't know her sex because you may not have actually seen her reproductive organs.
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Many would agree with you, and many would disagree. That's the debate. What does it mean to be a man or a woman? One side says chromosomes, and the other says how you feel as a person and present yourself.
I personally agree with the chromosome types, HOWEVER, I have absolutely no problems with people like this pursuing their own happiness. I don't think the child will be seriously injured by this arrangement (in fact, I think the contrary).
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So he can ***** himself.
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Where do babies come from?
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She's only pretending to be a man and this only proves it.
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Did you not read the article?
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Proves what?
You are allowed to say who is a real man and legally he is likely already a man? -
this must really ***** off the "marriage is for straight people only" crowd.
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> "She's only pretending to be a man and this only proves it."
You could say the same thing about many of the commentators to this story. -
Ignorant.
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There is a difference between gender identity and biological gender, at least to most trannies.
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Exactly. They can call the woman whatever she wants, but SHE is still a SHE, and you can see that in every part of her DNA. A girl wearing a strap-on isn't a man anymore than a monkey wearing clothes is a human.
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So if a man gets in an accident and loses his genitals, is he no longer a man? If a woman is born without ovaries or a vagina, or a man without testes, or a penis, are they forever genderless? And do you know this man's DNA profile? What's to say he's not XXY, or some other variation? What's to say that the Y chromosome was perhaps defective in some way? Genes are known for being defective. You can be XY and female, and XX and male. Why don't you take a look at the wikipedia article for this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRY
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Hmm. C-section? Didn't they make a movie about this like a katrillion years ago?
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i dont even kno what to say to that
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I feel so bad for the way the couple has been treated. Aren't those doctors who turned them down violating their Hippocratic oath?
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Whats the world comming to.
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being a lot more accepting of it's already existing diversity.
most "new things" have already been around. Transmen have been taking care of babies for a long time. Loving families trump gender issues every time. -
The answer would seem to be self-evident.
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Hopefully acceptance, tolerance, compassion, and the right to pursue your own happiness without fear of repercussion.
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[[the right to pursue your own happiness without fear of repercussion]]
That it one of the most misunderstood ideas in modern society. I'm not saying that you, TheSpook, misunderstood it, but many people do. Consider the extreme example of someone who loves to kidnap little kids, chop them up into tiny pieces, and feed those little pieces to his twenty cats. This, to him, is happiness. Should he be exempt from repercussions? Absolutely not.
If a person has a sex change operation, there will be repercussions. Some will be physical, some emotional, some social. Are all repercussions deserved? No. Is it foolish or naive to expect to experience no repercussions? Certainly. Every choice in life brings with it a set of attendant consequences - good, bad, or indifferent. That is simply how the universe works.-
Transgender people have little to no illusions in this regard. They take more abuse, socially and psychologically, for changing sex than most people can imagine. You speak as if the repercussions are deserved, however, and that is tragic. Do you totally lack compassion? Just because it is human nature to isolate and destroy that which is different, doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. Humanity is at its best when it overcomes the worst of its basilar instincts.
The Declaration of Independence states "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." I can understand your extreme example straw-man would present a problem, but it is hardly representative of the argument. It is easy to see that chopping up a kid into little pieces does not allow the child to have "Life." (Or the other two for that matter.) But what part of the man in the article having a baby impedes on the life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness of others? Unless of course your idea of happiness is impeding the life, liberty, and happiness of others, it doesn't.
The article in The Advocate highlighted the trouble they had finding a doctor, but they respected these people's beliefs enough to look elsewhere and not make a stink of it. Nothing wrong with that. But now that the story hits Digg, you insist that he is not a man, and you consistently fail to give him respect for something that has nothing to do with you. Of course, respect isn't required under the above quote, but giving this person an opportunity to be happy is required.
Your argument is weak. And humanity has never been happy with "simply how the universe works." (Hence modern society.)-
[[You speak as if the repercussions are deserved, however, and that is tragic.]]
That is completely YOUR interpretation. I can't affect how you interpret what you hear, see, or read.
[[Do you totally lack compassion?]]
Whether or not I am possessed of boundless compassion, consequences follow actions. My compassion cannot stop Newton's apple from falling to the ground. It is governed by natural law, not by my compassion or lack thereof.
[[Just because it is human nature to isolate and destroy that which is different, doesn't mean it is the right thing to do.]]
And where did I even hint at that?
[[Humanity is at its best when it overcomes the worst of its basilar instincts.]]
I agree 100%.
[[But now that the story hits Digg, you insist that he is not a man, and you consistently fail to give him respect for something that has nothing to do with you.]]
First of all, the article's hitting Digg has nothing to do with whether or not I consider this person to be a man. This person's chromosomes (not my opinion or yours) determine that. Secondly, how have I failed to give respect - whether it is due or not. I have pointed out facts, not vented irrational, emotional reactions.
[[Your argument is weak.]]
And what, pray tell, is this weak argument? If you can't articulate my argument, you have no business calling it weak.
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"Whats the world comming to."
Hmm. No apostrophe in "What's," misspelling "coming" and ending your question with a period. After reading your post I can honestly say it's going to *****. -
mmmmmmmmmmmm
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I bet she had a pecker installed and fertilized herself.
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This "man" is clearly a woman to all intents and purposes. I mean, I could call myself a "dolphin" and have fins surgically attached to me, but it shouldn't then surprise me if I could still father a human child rather than a fish. ;-)
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