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- specialK16, on 10/23/2007, -3/+9Why the ***** hell was the article deleted? You might believe whatever you want to believe, see whatever you want to see and read whatever you want to see. This article was made in the form of a description of the movie (like a lot of Wikipedia's movie articles), yet it was removed because some people just didn't like it.
- hardwire187, on 10/23/2007, -2/+8Zeitgeist the movie is perhaps the best piece of 'documentary' film making I've ever seen. It simultaneously enlightens, angers, and saddens me. This puts a sinking feeling in my stomach, but at the same time it's justification for the message contained in the film.
- SirBeav, on 10/23/2007, -5/+10Digg this to inform people of this censorship!
- jessicass, on 10/23/2007, -2/+6Censorship issue aside, I think it is a bit obnoxious to assert that because the movie has not had any formal reviews and media coverage that it is not "notable." You would think that wikipedia of all places would understand the concept of "internet notability" and would have the the foresight to know that it is a matter of time before it becomes recognized on a larger scale. I think that the 80,000 + specific hits through google ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Zeitgeist_the_Movie ) would indicate that it is noteworthy.
- FluffyWolf, on 10/23/2007, -1/+5It is very strange that wikipedia has no article on the movie, I haven't seen the whole movie but since it made some interesting claims I was interested to see which ones were valid and which ones were weak. And the only thing on the subject on wikipedia was a huge deletion argument page. This movie should be mentioned on wikipedia, and seems to be censored for very strange reasons.
- Curlz31, on 10/22/2007, -1/+5Just because scholars think its ***** doesn't mean people shouldn't have the right to watch it and decide for themselves. This is supposed to be an open society with a free exchange of ideas. People are allowed to say whatever they want. If the guy who made the movie wants to say Jesus didn't exist then that's his right. Wikipedia is supposed to be "the red cross for information". It's existence and popularity means it deserves an entry on wikipedia, it's content is irrelevant. For example they have an entry for 'The Eternal Jew' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eternal_Jew_%28fi ... .........most people would say its content is ***** but the fact that it exists and is well known means it deserves an entry. What this comes down to is the likelihood that wikipedia is largely controlled and censored by the intelligence agencies in the United States.
- Curlz31, on 10/23/2007, -0/+3So you are condemning the movie based on its ability to appear as truth....lol. People should know that just because something is presented to them as fact doesn't mean you have to believe it. It's up to each individual to judge. People need to learn not to believe everything they see on tv and the internet, EVEN if it is coming from their government. Thats exactly how the story of the 19 muslim hijackers was distributed.
- sarixe, on 02/24/2008, -0/+1well... you're obviously a meathead, even though i'm just saying this for my own satisfaction months later.
- utcursch, on 10/23/2007, -3/+4It's not censorship. It's a notability issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Zeitgeist_the_Movie - lectrician, on 10/04/2008, -0/+1If thats debunked, i'ld hate to see your version of something proven. Zeitgeist spends 35 minutes on Christ and then one and a half hours on modern Government corruption. You're debunkment calls some sources satanism and then goes and clings at Jesus coat tails begging to be healed. for 10 minutes! It's laughable at best.
- tomjunlee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I've never said you don't watch it though - "do your own research" means just that, even if that means lacking credentials. The problem, I find, is when people watch this then - due to this "movie" alone - people start believing saying "this is the truth!"
Which is why I said, "do your own research" in the first place. - FluffyWolf, on 10/22/2007, -0/+1But wouldn't it be better if people with insight in the matters did the research instead and that we had their input summarized on a Wikipedia page?
(You know, the ordinary way Wikipedia works...) - Tenbatsu404, on 10/01/2008, -0/+1I watched that movie, and laughed. It's that bad.
- Parapadrifter, on 11/07/2007, -0/+1ya know I bet you could make a good argument now since its being shown in California. Thats notability.
- drachemorder, on 10/23/2007, -1/+1I don't think you understand Wikipedia's policy. Their policy is that a subject is not notable unless it is referred to in reputable sources. That policy applies regardless of the merits of the topic in question. For the record, I don't particularly agree with Wikipedia's deletion or notability policies, and therefore I think the article should exist. However, I do think the policies are being applied correctly in this case by people who believe in those policies, and it isn't an attempt at censorship or suppression.
- Cari2009, on 03/03/2009, -0/+0"What amazes me more is the people that believe this don't actually research it and just take it at face value. Kinda shocking really."
I actually spent days researching what the documentary said in terms of astrology. Everything they mentioned about astrology is true. That much if you just bother to google it you will find has endless references.
The documentary itself emphasized the fact that they are not disproving God. They are just pointing out how control started through organised religion. That humans have been forced to believe that God exists through an organised religion and only through said organised religion. And you are told God demanded it so.
But of course you won't research that... you say "What amazes me more is the people that believe this don't actually research it"... but... did you research your religion? Did you research your views on the world? did you research the documentary dis-proving the Zeitgeist documentary? References, references, references.
I doubt many devout Christians ever researched the bible in their life time. I don't think anyone thinks of paging to the back of the bible and looking to see if they can find a references section. It's a matter of faith, I understand that, but when you're backing the view point of faith don't take the stance of: "What amazes me more is the people that believe this don't actually research it". It's just hypocritical. - Roberto1977, on 05/05/2008, -0/+0And do you how to properly care for the pets, what medicines do they need and how to maintain their health is normal? If you have any pets' health problems come here:
Pet Meds & Pet Medications: http://www.jeneric.biz/group/pets.html - tomjunlee, on 10/23/2007, -4/+3The reason why Zeitgeist the Movie was deleted was because of the lack of credible, contemporary sources.
Scholars laughed off the claims because they had no basis (well, they did - on "conspiracy theories"). You guys - please do your own research.
Heck - even the legendary Maddox did a document in the style of these "movies".
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af ...
Maddox's "outrageous claim" was that the Jews destroyed Titanic. After watching his argument, you will believe too!
Strange how people want to believe in these outrageous conspiracy theories and take it for a fact.
Try telling this in a court of law - YOU will be the subject of laughter.
Again, the very reason why the Wikpedia article for this has been deleted. - goffy59, on 10/23/2007, -3/+2***** you sheep.
- sherbertjello, on 12/08/2007, -1/+0wow, there is no way you could compare that pile of filth to the 3 hours of information in zeitgeist.
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- josh117, on 09/10/2008, -2/+0Guy i would just like to say to everyone that this has been debunked.
http://www.zeitgeistexposed.com
Visit that site and you can find out more. It's amazing how many people will actually believe something someone is saying if done in a professional manner. What amazes me more is the people that believe this don't actually research it and just take it at face value. Kinda shocking really. - handsomehellvis, on 10/22/2007, -5/+1ahoy!


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