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Wife googled 'How to commit murder", then Kills Husband
dailyrecord.com — At exactly 5:45:34 on April 18, 2004 a computer taken from the office of the attorney of Melanie McGuire, did a search on the words "How To Commit Murder." That same day searches on Google and MSN search engines, were conducted on such topics as `instant poisons,` `undetectable poisons,' 'fatal digoxin doses,...
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- rasterbator, on 10/12/2007, -5/+170That story is awesome. And she might have gotten away with it if she used altavista.
- trghpy, on 10/12/2007, -11/+71So the real question is...
Which search engine was more helpful?
Can i assume she got caught because she used the MSN search results? - synystar, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21True. Altavista is undetectable by all but the most adept digital detectives. She might also have gone to a local library and feigned an interest in the Dewey decimal system for a moment, never removing her lovely gloves. Digital evidence almost always looks extremely bad... even if it isn't conclusive.
- coolian, on 10/12/2007, -2/+36Altavista?!
You obviously haven't heard about Cha Cha. She could have blamed the agent. - sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -19/+14Would it be suspicious if I ate my laptop after I killed my spouse? And if not, do any of you have any good recipes for Dell Pate?
- sucks, on 10/12/2007, -5/+136one time i was hungry and without thinking i googled "sandwich"
- aukxsona, on 10/12/2007, -19/+10it's all circumstantial...do they KNOW she had sex with miller, is there photos or semen?
Where is the murder weapon? Her prints? The toxicology reports from the autopsy...if they knew it was a murder...they would have tested for everything.
What about a witness to the murder? Did Todd see any blood on the defendant when she dropped off the child? Was the child upset? Did he say anything about Daddy?
All speculation...I routinely look up stuff like this...just because I like to know weird stuff. - edallme, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1How is it easier to find searches using Google rather than Altavista? Is it because of the infinite Google cookie?
- hansblix, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5hmmm... I see an opportunity to capitalize on spousal homicide...
All we need now is a website... - anotherjeff, on 10/12/2007, -14/+3bitch, stfu and make me a sandwich.
- johnwyles, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3So many of you are calculating because of your tech knowledge, but you have to remember she was thinking not using her home computer would simply be enough.
@aukxsona
You call it weird but I call it twisted. Just hope you do not ever accidently kill anyone, or get fingered in a case, because those searches will haunt you. - johnwyles, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5So much for the Google motto "Do no evil"
- aukxsona, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27@johnwyles
Twisted to know gun laws? To know poisonous plants?
1.) I found out I have poisonous berries right in my back yard that is with in reach of my children...imagine if we picked and ate those instead of trying to eradicate them. Or that I didn't know they were poison when my daughter tried to eat them?
2.) I want to use a gun safely and legally, but I also want to know my rights to defend myself legally...so I shouldn't look gun laws up?
just in case etc...
3.) I am a chemistry major so I shouldn't look up chemical combinations to make sure all are safe?
If they haunt me it would be a retard that tried to push them... - johnwyles, on 10/12/2007, -9/+25I call for changing the miranda rights to "...anything you say, or "Google®," may be used against you in a court of law."
- aukxsona, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4so where is the rebuttal?
- benitojuarez, on 10/12/2007, -4/+45she should have used ask jeeves and blamed the butler.
- Emanji, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8this reminds me of a 48hr investigation episode about a guy who fake a robery and killed his wife. During which he was shot 4 times. They got him searching Google on how to shoot him self without causing harm, rofl people don't know what they do on their computer can come back and bite them in the ass.
Check out the interesting story.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/30/48hours/main2412759.shtml - Jemm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28From the article: "Her testimony was the strongest evidence yet in the state's circumstantial evidence case against the 34-year-old McGuire, who allegedly murdered her husband with a .38 caliber weapon"
I wonder how it went:
"Hmm... Now how could I get rid of that husband? I'd better google it..."
*2 hours later*
"Ooh! I could shoot him! How didn't I think of that!" - phort99, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Excellent use of verb tense. Now I'm going to go googled "how to make french toast" and then go makes some.
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Imagine if the husband scrolled through the computer's history a few days before his murder.
"Honey... I think we need to talk. If you're going to kill me, at least clear the Internet history after Googling stuff like this" - dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4This can only lead to bad things. Like search monitoring *shudders*
- aukxsona, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hmm I'm an American and I have the right to Freedom of information would I take a chance...You betcha...know why it's my right.
Circumstantial. I can look as guilty as you like but if I'm not beyond a shadow of a doubt...I'm not.
Same thing with this lady.
By the way those weren't hypothetical made up reasons...I really did do google searches on poisonous plants, chemicals, and gun laws for the hell of it...and yes they did actually save my kids life. More than once I might add. Education, no matter how bad it looks is never bad.
- trghpy, on 10/12/2007, -11/+71So the real question is...
- stonebear, on 10/12/2007, -16/+1Dr. Moriarty uses http://www.customizegoogle.com/ for Firefox.
- devilspy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+44She should have asked Jeeves. Hes a butler and a cutler.
- jetsetgo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+111Jeeves in the library with the candlestick!
- benitojuarez, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8im sorry i didnt see this, didnt mean to steal your comment.
- AegisGFX, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3The wife did it in the living room, with the Google
- Blakechi, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6Looks like Google was successful...over 1,750,000 results.
Funny; I always thought of Google as a life saver.
- iomegaboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+180Should have searched for "How to commit murder and get away with it."
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -5/+80Just email oj@simpson.com.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -2/+48The search would have to exclude "those meddling kids."
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Well, then those AOL logs were released, there was a "how to kill my wife" about 7 times by the same user.
Then there was "how to hide a dead body".
Seriously. It was there. There were also over 1000 counts of "*****" and variations by different people and countless counts of "porn", but no "pr0n"
Get the file and do a CTRL+F search. - carniv0re, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I know for sure it should say "allegedly murders husband" but I suppose that's not sensationalist enough for Digg.
- hadiz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Hah, the #1 result for that query on Google is some loon talking about a robot killing someone.
- Poco, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31Don't go killing anyone soon...
- yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Are you her?
- uday0210, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2She should have read this article: http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Life_After_College_Managing_Your_Reputation_Online
- dsmx, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31When will people learn. Do research for illegal things at places other than your home, stop making it so easy for the police.
Bunch of bloody amateurs.- toppgun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19thats what using an anonymous proxy at the library of the town next over to search for "how to kill someone with common household goods and get away with it as an accident" is for...
crap, I told you too much. Now Im going to have to kill you... with a common household good - 0x0000ff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8she did it at work and at her parents place, read the article
- snapuswipe, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1@dsmx
Speaking from experience?
- toppgun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19thats what using an anonymous proxy at the library of the town next over to search for "how to kill someone with common household goods and get away with it as an accident" is for...
- SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10What I learned from this is that one should never ever spell the word "centering" with a hyphen.
- cam503, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20I just googled: "How to comment on digg."
It wasn't that exciting.- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -3/+57I clicked on "I feel lucky" and got this thread. You don't seem like a horny teenage girl, though.
- chuckpenzone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28Maybe jbarnett should google how to spell google...
- DJCult, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28As I hear it, the goggles: They do nothing.
- cajie, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2www.hidemyass.com
- catchphrase, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2This should be "how to digg" a murder to the front page.
- robbiedo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Doesn't it give you a warm feeling inside knowing how helpful Google can be in reaching one's life goals?
- RAEP, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1I lol'd
- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Note to self: use tor.
- autodata, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2It was info on the local machine.
- KevinRoseFetus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15i am now going to google: "how to avoid marriage"
- dojonz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Did you mean: how to change nothing
- euphemizeme, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I think it's excellent that these queries were logged and could be used to prosecute this murderer.
Unfortunately, this is just more ammunition for those who would seek to log and analyze every keystroke people make.- parax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17I don't think it's excellent. I don't like the idea that the numerous and trivial things I search for could be used against me legally should anything happen to anyone I've ever met. I've searched for poisons, radioactive elements, terrorists, laws, and any number of other things that could be construed as intent given context.
I watch a lot of crime dramas, and I frequently search for methods of death to find out if they're really possible or if the episode was based on a real case. Using people's information gathering habits against them in a legal context is a terrible thing. What you think, read, and write should be protected.
You shouldn't have to pause before you research because your search strings might be ammunition against you in a trial. If they can use your search strings against you, they'll start using your tivo/dvr preferences against you, or anything you've ever written in any post (of course conveniently clipped to only show what they want it to show). - DracoLord, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Wow, you're right parax, I guess it's time to get out the ol' tinfoil hat again.
- pietenpol, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Right on, Parax. I couldn't agree more.
In that story linked above about the guy killing his wife, if I recall correctly, it came out during the trial that he had downloaded the Guns and Roses song "I used to love her (but I had to kill her)" and the prosecution made one of those whiteboards with the lyrics all written out.
That's right, they used the fact that he had listened to a Guns and Roses song in a trial to convict him of murder.
- parax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17I don't think it's excellent. I don't like the idea that the numerous and trivial things I search for could be used against me legally should anything happen to anyone I've ever met. I've searched for poisons, radioactive elements, terrorists, laws, and any number of other things that could be construed as intent given context.
- zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Perhaps she should have watched a few episodes of CSI.
Lessons on how to commit a murder and get away with it.
- R3PUBLIC0n, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1WHATS THAT YOU SAY? BAN CSI?
- johnwyles, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0@aukxsona:
If you will go back to your original comment you will see you simply put: "All speculation...I routinely look up stuff like this...just because I like to know weird stuff."
With a topic like "Wife googled 'How to commit murder', then Kills Husband" it is no strectch of the imagination to assume that your intentions are not all good with a comment like the one you have left. Thanks for clearing that up so that we all know there is one less creep on the Internet.- aukxsona, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1pardon, but I don't have any intent to kill any body ...I think your the creep for assuming things about people you don't know. So go back to the lab you rat, wrong again. (Pinky and the Brain...hint not Brain)
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Might be a good idea to disable the cache..
- ALynch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1she should of used wikiHow
- etement, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"She told the jury that it is known in the computer industry that if information stored on a 12 gigabyte computer was put on paper it would create a stack of paper higher than the Empire State Building."
What? Even if it was all in binary it wouldn't be that large!- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5That's what I was thinking.. I mean the DNA sequence is considered to be about 1GB in length right? I've seen the sequence in book-form at a science center and its only a foot or two in height (double-sided), so a 12GB one-sided paper stack would only be something like 50 feet high right?
- sardonic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3railroad... choo-choo
- arnott7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Google does not kill people, people kill people !
- silouette747, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12*Googles* How to get into a threesome *Waits*
- SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2$$$$$$$$$$$$$
- crashflow, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3but google didn't murder her husband for her. its a do-it-yourselfer.
...kinda like you. j/k
- jmontes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1This made me think it would be funny to search on those terms myself. Then I thought, what if something bad happens to someone near to me tomorrow? Then it wouldn't be funny anymore.
Wait, what about these digg comments? Oh, I'm so screwed.... - thomasthecat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5"Hey Big Tuna...have you ever wondered what would happen if you googled Google?"
- CarolynMittens, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3well... it's not random since this article entirely involves google. and his comment made me smile.
lighten up!
- CarolynMittens, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3well... it's not random since this article entirely involves google. and his comment made me smile.
- sfacets, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Lucky she didn't fall on a Wikipedia article.
- truegodofwar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Note to self. Next time use a linux live dvd.
- DeskFlyer, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2On Soviet Google, murder commits YOU.
- dtfinch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1We should call it "pulling a Reiser". Hans checked out a bunch of books relating to murder investigations.
- Templeofjava, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1This gives new meaning to the phrase "Just Google it".
- sheasie, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2BAN GOOGLE!!!
- rhawk301, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1You people need to use privoxy and tor. What is this world coming to?
- DarkestGenesis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0She should've used a PC with no hard drive and ran Ubuntu Live CD and browsed with tor :P
- Keloran, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3note to self: delete the "keyword" search from my machine, before commiting murder
- coolbru, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Evidently completely failed to search for 'How to commit murder and not get caught'.
- nepalsites, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0i actually found that there's a site called killmywife.com that comes in number 1 rank when u search for "how to kill my wife" . Too busy right now to read what's written in the site though.
- aadsm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2OMG! Let's sue Google for giving such advice! it's obviously their fault, think of the children!
- EBFoxbat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I'm pretty certain I could murder someone without using Google.
- lysdexia, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Aye - you could bore them to death with Yahoo.
- brbubba, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"Under cross examination by defense attorney Stephen Turano, Barron said no test for chloral hydrate was done on the remains.
When asked by Prezioso if it is routine in autopsies to test for "every substance known to man-kind," Barron said, "We could do a research project on any case we receive, but we don't have the manpower."
Yeah because dismembered bodies in suitcases in the Chesapeake Bay are so f-ing routine! Thats sloppy work there, I would acquit just for this guy being such an idiot.- aukxsona, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I second the motion!
- weezyljm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0OMG - Guilty by Google - convicted by a search engine... If she had used dogpile -it would have been ruried under so much s--t that they never would have found it. LMAO
- CaptMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7This teaches us all a valuable and important lesson. If a woman is going to kill her husband, she should search for things like "how to be a good wife" and "how you please your husband" then she can kill him.
- supaphly42, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0in which case she would have been brought to this site...
http://www.steakandbjday.com/
- supaphly42, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0in which case she would have been brought to this site...
- loqqq, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4She should have waited 18-24 months before killing him.
- crashflow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2oh crap...
/deletes cache
i mean...wow what an idiot! - edebaby, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Now she can Google Martha Stewart and find out how to dress up her jail cell.
- AndrewDB, on 01/10/2008, -2/+2She obviously didn't feel very lucky.
- ErrorS, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3People are going to think I'm nuts but I actually did rough math on her empire state building statement.
Created 1500 pages worth of text in a text document. It came out to around 5MB. It would take roughly 500,000 pages to fill a 12GB HDD (this is give or take and rounded, my pages were packed pretty full)
at 0.1mm thick it ends up at about 50 meters high in pages filled with text.
In hex you're looking at about 100M worth of paper. In binary it would be 8x's larger than text (give or take when you take into account numbers, font size, etc) and would end up .. well, 400M, taller than the empire state building.
On a serious note, in my opinion this is all circumstantial evidence and I hope the jury keeps that in mind. - supaphly42, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1the result of someone using a site was that someone did something illegal. therefore, we should hold fully accountable the owners of that site.
oh wait, it's not the riaa prosecuting this case...- bongchitis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0kill the riaa, and let god sort em tout!
- raaaaaa, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2she should of googled " How to commit murder and not get caught"
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