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- aeblin, on 10/11/2007, -3/+62Having read through the article, it's ridiculously nitpicky. Seems like they're targetting Whole Foods for some reason. Other chains are just as bad, if not worse. (Wal-Mart anyone?)
- uwjames, on 10/11/2007, -1/+49You can make a killer burrito there. And they will give you lots of great samples of cheese and olives. And soy milk is actually fairly well priced. That's about it. Oh and hot chicks shop there.
- insomn3ak, on 10/11/2007, -4/+48Has CNNmoney ever done an article on the crap that's found in the big chain grocers, or how pricy some of their stuff is? Why is the little guy always picked on when their trying to transform Americans filthy eating habits?
Hmm, maybe they have stock in Albertsons or something... - Nysul, on 10/11/2007, -1/+34This article is such B.S.
First, everyone knows Whole Foods is expensive. The reason I shop there is because they have alot of items that other grocery stores don't (ie raw cheese, which is awesome).
Second, they are pretty good listening to customers and will order nearly anything they want, which is why sometimes you see tropicana or snapple (etc) products even though they don't necessarily fit Whole Food's criteria.
The produce is pretty expensive and not generally worth it, I will agree with that. The article is also right in that all fruits and veggies don't have to be organic. However, their prepped meals make other grocery stores look like microwave hungry man meals.
In addition, you won't find a better steak anywhere else short of a very expensive restaurant. The new york strips there put other grocery stores to shame.
What I typically do is shop for produce and most goods at other markets, and then get specialty goods and occasionally an awesome steak at Whole Foods. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21I'm not even sure what this article is trying to get at. While it's true that not all food they have is 100% healthy (like chips), it most certainly is better than half the ***** you find at normal stores.
I don't think their aim is to have EVERYTHING be 100% healthy as opposed to things being overall better than the alternatives. The bit about the cleaners is irrelevant since I don't eat them and typically I stick with whatever works.
The price bit confused me as well. Maybe it's just where I live, but I'll tell you what - ever since I started going there for a portion of my food, it's saved me about $100 a month as opposed to a normal grocery store. - rossmcd, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20"Ditto for household items such as dishwashing detergent. The largest component in most cleaners - organic or not - is water. The "green" soaps and detergents may be less harmful to the environment (because they have no phosphates), but they don't necessarily remove the dirt any better than Tide or Cascade."
They misrepresent the cleaning products a little. It's totally irrelevant that most of what they contain is water; it's the other stuff that makes the environmental & health impact. (Same as food, duh.) I've been using "green" cleaning products for a couple years now, and they definitely do not clean as well as the regular stuff. On the other hand they're not manufactured from petroleum (as many detergents are!), don't contain chlorine, and won't give you a weird headache if you inhale too much while scrubbing the bathroom tile. - Urusai, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19If you don't like Whole Foods, shop somewhere else. Amazingly, capitalism still works in some cases.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18This article smells of a hatchet job, a paid attempt to hit Whole Foods. I wonder which competitor is behind it? Perhaps Whole Foods refused to buy advertising from CNN Money, and this is retaliation, to teach them a lesson.
- RonPaulPres2008, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19I don't even shop at whole foods stores and this article still sounded amatuer to me. "The prepared meals don't have nutritional facts, HA!" "They still have potato chips, which is *gasp* A SNACKER AND NOT HEALTHY" "The milk totally isn't a bargain" "Organic cleaning products don't clean better than Tide!"
Pfft, what a load of insignificant organic balogna. But the little bit about the pesticides was good. - orlyfactor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Wow, what an A.D.D. article. Let's make the viewer click next one time for each paragraph! Was this designed to be read on an iPod or what?
- hiPpymIck, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15Seasonal food information, tips and recipe ideas, updated every week.
http://www.eattheseasons.com/
farmers markets (US Can)
http://marketplace.chef2chef.net/farmer-markets/index.htm
local food (US)
http://www.localharvest.org/ - WaterDragon, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15OMG When they cross corn DNA with Dog DNA, will they call it Corn-dogs? LMAO sry
- badapplestudio, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13STUPID ARTICLE
No useful info in there and some wrong info. Should not be on the front page. Want info on food? Read THE OMNIVORE'S DILEMMA. - WaterDragon, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17FTA (p.3)
"Whole Foods doesn't carry any food containing transfats or artificial coloring. But that's the extent of its nutritional screening."
This is simply NOT TRUE. They carry many things with artificial colors, like certain flavors of 'Snapple' ( not to mention things full of high fructose corn syrup, another major health concern).
I even noticed at one Whole Foods that they were selling Tropicana Juices. and when I read the label of a pint-size container of Tropicana 'orange strawberry banana juice', there was cochineal extract, added for color. It is the 'natural' color that is pressed from insects!
Whole foods' policy of food purity is a clear example of following the 'letter of the law', and not the spirit!
e.g. their organic products are usually only 'USDA organic' , which is a much lower standard than the real organically- produced' foods certified by reputable agencies -- that existed before the USDA created their low standard which is just a play on words.
In my neighborhood, there is a Whole Foods, and a Trader Joe's about one block apart. I have come to really like Trader Joe's.
e.g. TJ's own brand includes organic soy creamer, while WF only sells Silk-brand soy creamer, which has some organic ingredients, but can't be labeled organic, since it contains 'maltodextrin (from corn)'....corn from an unspecified source, therefore loaded with pesticides, and most likely genetically modified.
Yeah Whole foods is convenient and OK, but it is just a case of big corporations profiteering from the health-food business, instead of fixing the root of the problem -- the profiteering corporations who sold all the farm chemicals in the first place, creating this artificial, over-priced market for people who prefer un-poisoned food.
We should be paying LESS for organic foods than for the poisonous ones with pesticide and chemical residues...which really ought to be banned for sale.
OMG I don't know what came over me. For a moment there I was imagining a world where the people had some rights over the corporations!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8310078625033531091 - claphands22, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12The coolest part about Whole Foods is John Mackey - very honest guy.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8120780249339816114 Great video [59mins] - bwhancock, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Holy crap what an eye opening article!
1. Fruit doesn't walk!
2. And they only had rhubarb locally at one Whole Foods in early Spring - this may explain why I can't get locally grown bananas in Wisconsin in February - wiremonkeymommy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10pretty lame hit job by CNN there... go educate yourself!
- kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10whole foods isn't that nation wide, and they've been trying to get into the market in oklahoma city, but walmart, and target keeps them out.. I wish we had one because I've been trying to convince my grandmother to buy healthier foods. The food that is sold at walmart is very unhealthy and even more so than in the 90s. My grandma just sees the price tag.. "10 cents extra. Sorry grandson I guess I have to get that heart attack."
- slenderdog, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9This article is a hatchet job.
- mickeyknoxxx, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8absolutely!
The hot chicks. :-) - smacksaw, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8So according to the article, we buy organic foods because it cuts down on carbon? Last time I checked, I didn't give a ***** about carbon in relation to food, just as I don't care about the amount of pesticide in my gasoline.
I buy organic food because I don't like to eat bug poison. And if it has to travel farther to get to me, whoever doesn't like it can have my share of poisoned veggies. - Pile, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8That article is some hit-piece against Whole Foods. It's a generic criticism of all supermarkets with the Whole Foods logo slapped on.
Inaccurate. - Kmack928, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Whole Foods is Expensive?!?!?!
I can only get certain types of locally grown produce at certain times of the year?!?!??!
What moron compiled this story... and then presented it in slide show format.
BOooo that man! - iignotus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8... because that's the proper word to use. Something is healthy if it has health; if it is in a fit state of being. Something is healthful if it imparts health to another organism. Apparently you didn't, but I learned this stuff in grade school.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6This article was obviously written by an idiot. Anyone who has passed simple 2nd grade math can figure out for themselves that Whole Foods is more expensive than other grocery stores. That's not why people shop there. It's not "Whole Foods Discounted Organic Grocery Store" for a reason. What's the reason? Because organic vegetables cost more to produce than non-organic vegetables. That added cost gets absorbed by the consumer. This is basic economics.
The author would have had a more compelling story if he came up with something about BMW's being more expensive than Honda's. I bet they're no more fuel efficient! Because that's the same flawed logic in this article. BMW drivers drive BMW's for a reason and Whole Foods shoppers shop there for a reason. Money has very little to do with it. It's about getting a better product.
Incidentally, I shop at a regular grocery store for most of my food, but certain staples that are so-called "specialty items" are cheaper at Whole Foods. For example, Tofu, any vegetarian prepared meal (like Boca burgers etc.) are much cheaper than at a regular grocery store. My guess is that Whole Foods has greater purchasing power over such items, thereby making them cheaper.
Just my experience. - WoollyMittens, on 10/11/2007, -5/+11I'd rather eat a DNA than a PCB.
- philba, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7gasp!!! you mean they charge a premium for shopping there? wow. thanks for helping us hapless, clueless, drone-like consumers who march into WF and buy what ever they tell us to. God, we are all just so hopelessly in the grips of those evil WF marketeers. Thank you thank you thank you.
- ParaSwarm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Crappy, nitpicky article. Sounds like somebody doesn't like Whole Foods.
- rossmcd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6When I first walk in it mostly smells like flowers. A lot like the smell of a greenhouse nursery.
- Ramble, on 10/11/2007, -5/+11I don't see a problem there.
- eclectro, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Even with all these points, whole foods is still a cut above a regular supermarket. I am grateful fot the variety they have. Maybe they don't beat a regular supermarket on price on every instance, but the regular supermarket processed food is getting to be downright dangerous. If you have to follow a gluten free diet, eating out of a regular supermarket can be practically impossible.
- voodoozombie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Whole Foods is great, but I only shop there when I can't find a Trader Joe's.
- WaterDragon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I guess despite their many limitations, I appreciate the fact that it is a national chain that is making at least some kind of organic food available in so many places. It is too bad that the way the laws are set up, favoring corporations, in the US, big stores like that can come into a neighborhood and put a lot of small businesses out of business.
it is the same thing that happens to many local hardware stores when a home depot is built nearby.
The root of the problem seems to be in the laws that regularte ( or rather fail to regulate appropriately) corporations, as well as the federal reserve, that is the true EVIL SCAM behind all other kinds of economic corruption, including the special treatment that the US gov't gives to corporate entities over private citizens.
I also like how Whole Foods roasts their own coffee.
But I generally shop at Trader Joe's, for the better prices and the huge selection of frozen organic produce...I mean like org. raspberries for 3.99/lb amazing!. - Riluske, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I work at Whole Foods, and I would like to clear some of it up.
Gra. I noticed the first example:
"Many contend that the real damage done to the earth by fruits and veggies is not how they are grown but how much fuel has to be burned to get them to you."
What it doesn't tell you is that Whole Foods fuels all it's delivery trucks with bio diesel to help the environment.
On Junk food. Yes, Whole Foods does have junk food, but you won't find Skittles or Cheetos there. Nor will you find Diet Sodas, because of the aspartame. (for those of you who don't know, several studies have shown aspartame to cause serious health issues.) The "junk food" that you find at whole foods is actually at least somewhat healthy. The closest thing that you will find to candy there is Ginger hard candies.
"Onions, avocados and corn are practically pesticide-free whether they are organically grown or not."
The fact of the matter is that they don't use pesticides just for health reasons, but also environmental reasons. The last thing you want is poison washing into streams and such.
Also, it mentioned the price. There was a wonderful story that I heard about a farmer who switched to organic before he was supposed to in the season, and lost his entire crop. Whole Foods came in and replanted his ENTIRE crop for him, to show their appreciation.
I could go on and on, but I don't want to take up to much room on the comment board. Truthfully, if you want to attack anyone, you should attack companies like Wal Mart. The last thing that you should do is attack a company who is at least trying to help the environment, or promote healthy living.
Also, if you don't believe me, please go look at the website yourself. http://wholefoods.com/company/index.html - Toupee, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Is Whole Foods kind of like Wegmans? Sort of a fancier place with expensive specialties (that you can't find elsewhere) and reasonably priced everything-else?
It does sound kind of crap that they're trying to pick 'healthy' products for their customers, but I don't really see what the big deal is, or how it deserves these criticisms and 90% of other grocery stores don't? Last I checked, locally grown organic food isn't dominating over 30% of ANY place out there. - sarazen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I have also been on green cleaners for about 8 years now. I like the Biokleen line of laundry stuff, it works great for me, and one box lasts me well over a year (and this is with 4 kids), so it ends up being cheaper than conventional laundry soap. I also use vinegar and baking soda where possible. Sometimes that does require more elbow grease, but I really like the fact I can keep that stuff under the sink counter and don't have to worry about the baby poisoning herself with it.
- ender42081, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4well pointed out, glad I'm not the only person here who has watched '*****'! oh, and BTW you have had unmodified corn about twice (if your lucky) no matter where you shop. the farkin native americans modified it to make it the size we see today. and bird/dog DNA?? are you retarded? honestly man... they do NOT splice animal/fish/bird DNA into plants. I don't think that is even legal... poor doggies having to pork plants!
- radio1mike, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Whole Foods started out like every other gourmet market and absorbed competitors like Bread & Circus later on. I'd prefer to call them gourmet supermarket markets, rather than CNN Money's ridiculous "healthy" supermarkets. They don't just specialize in organic produce, but free range meat and all compatible type products.
You don't find $12.00 'organic' mascara, $7.00 free-range chicken and grass-fed aB/hormone free beef at your local universities organic co-op.
These markets, Whole Foods, Wild Oats, Trader Joe's and the grandaddies of them all- Dean & DeLuca's and Zabar's were all predicated on bringing natural (both no pesticides and no processing) and authentic foods (no flaky jello salad with maraschino cherries and mayo) as products. They all try to follow the Old World Europe model of small markets.
I just read, "The United States of Arugula" by that guy from GQ, it's great read on how America became a gourmet country. Read it!
As far as the article is concerned, it seems it is written for anyone who has been placed in a bubble for the last 30 years who had just wandered into WF and did their first shopping trip. I like WF, can't really afford to shop there- unless I am splurging for something... TJ's is a little more affordable. - hiPpymIck, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4UK
http://www.farmersmarkets.net/index.htm
http://www.bigbarn.co.uk/producers/details.php?id=7005 - KingMoses, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Enough with the FUD over genetic modification. We modify crops to make them produce higher yields in worse soil with less water; it's the technology that could conceivably end world hunger in our lifetime .
Back in the 90's, the US government tried to donate hundreds of tonnes of GM seeds to struggling nations in Africa, until Greenpeace and various unthinking groups like it came in and convinced many leaders that America was trying to poison them. Based on that, many of them turned down the seeds and thousands of people needlessly starved to death.
Being against genetic modification isn't just stupid; it's evil. - claphands22, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3WaterDragon, check out John Mackey's blog on new corporate formats: I think you'll b pleasantly surprised. http://wholefoodsmarket.com/blogs/jm/ [look under conscious capitalism]
- WaterDragon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3if you want an alternative to highly poisonous cleaners like Tilex, you can use basically the same process used to bleach hair, which tends to destroy proteins (like the hair shaft)...a strong alkali, followed by a concentrated peroxide.
Here's how I would make a Tilex substitute:
Sprinkle the moldy part of your shower/tiles with bicarbonate soda ( baking soda), and then spray or splash it with the kind of peroxide sold as 'developer' in the hair-bleaching section of stores. You can get 40-volume hydrogen peroxide, which is waaay stronger than the usual 10 volume peroxide used as an antiseptic.
20 or 30 9volume probably work nearly as well. If you saw what this combination does to hair, you would know what it can do to mold or other living germy-type things.
And peroxides are so much nicer than chlorine bleach....They release OXYGEN!
- claphands22, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Why do you like Trader Joe's more than Whole Foods?
- recast, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Disease isn't caused by the consumption of malformed DNA in the animal/plant consumed. Disease is caused by pathogenic agents being introduced into a host suitable for that pathogen to multiply and disrupt the hosts normal biological functions. For instance, if you eat chicken your body doesn't incorporate the chicken DNA into your own DNA. It simply digests the amino acids along with the rest of your food. Don't be a total retard and try thinking critically about the dumb ideas you hold before you infect others with your ignorance. Thanks
- WaterDragon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3THANK YOU!
One thing I noticed and liked about the article, was that it used the word 'healthful' correctly -- unlike what I have become accustomed to reading in Digg comments.
Now, if only someone could help me with my punctuation....
But can someone tell me why the in line spell check in Digg doesn't recognize the word Digg?
(...or is that Firefox that is constantly watching me as I type?) - xstarsprinklesx, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4What do you use to clean? Seventh Generation products seem to work fine for my laundry & dishwashing, and I just use household stuff like vinegar for cleaning everything else.
- fiver22, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Buy local -buy seasonal. Don't buy from supermarkets -try a small produce/meat vendor. Ask where the food comes from.
- orlyfactor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Hahahaha, it sucks for you. You're poor.
- sarazen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Dude, I hear you. I love that organic food has become more popular and easier to get, and I buy it when I can. But seriously, Whole Foods is a small company in the supermarket world. And, organic stuff is more expensive than conventional produce because all those pesticides on the crops means that farmers are getting triple the yields off the same farmland. That means that it takes less land to feed more people which leads to more wild space left in the world. It sucks that everything can't be organic, but like so many other things there are trade-offs everywhere. I hope they never stop finding GM ways to produce more, and better pesticides that increase yields and cause less problems for the environment. The less open space they have to use to feed people the more room left for everything else.
- macoafi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Any female can tell you that peroxide is a key thing to have on-hand for laundry. We know because when accidents happen at certain times of the month, peroxide is what we use to clean the panties/trousers/bedsheets which are affected, but single dads and stay-at-home dads might find it useful to know as well for the next time one of the kids bloodies their knee and gets it all over their new clothes.
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