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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -28/+294CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESEOME
- Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -48/+219Men don't want to get married because they're afraid that they'll lose the "good life" - partying and one-night stands around college age, and later on drinking and hanging out with friends. What most men don't realize is that, if you find the right woman, those things won't mean nearly as much to you anymore.
- Nightlie, on 10/12/2007, -28/+185Don't marry american women...the phrase "till death do us part" do not seem to apply to them...
- Flynnz, on 10/12/2007, -7/+136see I think a lot of you are missing the point. I am engaged, and I love my fiance. however the laws in this country scare the hell out of me. Its not so much that I am afraid my fiance will turn into this evil bitch on her own, and try to take all my money. Its more to the possibility that if ***** doesn't work out 10 years from now, she will have a lawyer fill her head as to why she deserves half of everything that I worked for. Now I cant really blame her if this happens. After all you can bet her friends, family, and lawyers will tell her "it's your right!" over and over again. So its not so much that I am afraid my fiance will leave me and turn out to be a bitch. its more of how society in this country will turn her into one. The laws in this country really need to change. I have seen many hardworking men get their life ruined cause they took a chance at making someone else happy by marrying. and taking care of them.
A quick example of this would be what is happening to my uncle. Recently my aunt decided she was going to leave him. basically cause of a fight over my uncle not wanting to give their spoiled ass son more money (my uncle already bought him a house, cars, etc) They have been married over 40 years. During that time he never cheated on her, beat her, and made sure she led a life of luxury. He did this by working his ass off for decades. She never worked a day in her life (and I mean not a single day). She had a maid clean up the house, and help with the kids. She spent a huge majority of her life sitting on the couch ordering ***** on TV. (there was at least 1 package at the house every single day for more years than I can count). She always had a brand new luxury car no more than 2 years old, and was given enough cash to do whatever she wanted to do on a daily basis. The kids have been out of the house for many years. So she has been basically sitting around spending money for many many years. So after all this man did to make her have the life she wanted, she decides to divorce him so that she can get half of everything he owns (and in doing so insuring that their spoiled ass son will get what he "deserves"). And when I say half, I really mean just about everything in his life that he loved is gone. This poor guy loved her, never wanted her to leave, gave her everything in life she could want. They disagree about one thing, and BOOM its right to the lawyers.
The point of me telling that story is this....if she didn't think..wait ***** that if she didn't KNOW she could get everything she wanted from this man, and listen to outside parties telling her what she "deserves" (lawyers, friends etc) there could have been a good chance they could have worked past this argument about the son. The laws in this country MUST change. I am astonished at just how screwed men are in this country. And I really dont blame women (to those of you who think I am just a bitter *****), I blame the legal system that allows them to have the belief that they deserve just about everything just for spreading their legs. And honestly if I was a woman I would find these laws insulting. It basically says to me that in this country woman are not capable of taking care of themselves, and that men will have to help them survive.
So to some of you who have posted that your marriage will be great, and you are in love. Don't be naive......nothing in life is 100% certain. As much as I love my fiance, and know that she loves me back, I also know that people can and do change. I am still taking a chance on getting married, but I will be damn sure to hide as much income as I can if I see ***** going sour :) - junkalam, on 10/12/2007, -33/+162LOOK AT ME ! I'M TYPING IN ALL CAPS !!
seriously, does the title have to be all caps ? - R34C7, on 10/12/2007, -6/+121Two words... prenuptial agreements!
I know most guys fall for the upset girlfriend - or fiance in this case - who pulls a guilt trip on this one, but you have to realize that women have the law firmly on their side and unless you at least even the playing field you are basically screwed in the event of a divorce (depending on your state of residence).
My condolences go out to those who are victims of the one-sided legal system who have little say over their own children and are forced to pay out money for a child that they are not permitted to care for in the first place. I have friends whose ex-wives take the toys and clothes that they purchase for their children and sell them to pay for personal indulgences. I have even more friends who give a large portion of their paychecks to support other children of their ex-wives because the other fathers are in jail or cannot be found. There is no guarantee your money benefits your children and there is little that someone can do to convince a court that the children are better off with their fathers. Try paying off you ex-wife's drug habit while your children live in squalor. It happens to far too many good fathers because they made poor decisions... sad...
My point, a prenup is worth it no matter how in love you think you are...
My personal opinion, government has no business dealing with marriage in the first place. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -42/+147I have a GREAT woman that I'm very much looking forward to marrying. And I'm 100% unashamed to admit it. Not all guys are insecure, immature, marriage-phobes.
Get over your ego, find a gal that's fun to live with, enjoy her company, and treat each other nicely. What's so taboo about this? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -19/+122So basically what you are saying is that people you know chose poorly, were stupid, and got married for the wrong reasons.
- grammarpolice, on 10/12/2007, -7/+91Whats wrong with having girlfriends? Just because you don't marry does not mean you can't have a relationship. I agree with the article, if you just live with each other you realize the repercussions of eachother's actions towards one another. There is no hurry to get married in this society, I just wished my parents (who are Mexican, and expect everyone to marry early) could see why its hard to find someone worthy of marriage in the US. I'll probably get buried for this but in my experience about 97% of women are "undercover",they seem like the perfect girl but underneath they are different people. As soon as some "different" or "troubled" guy enters the picture shes just going to invite you for dinner and say "I need to tell you something".
- johnny23, on 10/12/2007, -10/+94@skyshock21
Good luck to you, I wish you a lifetime of happiness with your bride-to-be.
One thought you may want to consider though: I'm fairly certain the people mentioned in the article didn't hate each other's ***** guts when they stood at the altar. Chances are they were just as in love as you are now. - Caps, on 10/12/2007, -3/+75Women marry men expecting them to change, but they never do.
Men marry women expecting them to stay the same, but they always change... - Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -3/+67Perhaps it's the horrible predatory divorce laws. *shrug*
- JoeyDeacon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+64When I was 14, I hoped that one day I would have
a girlfriend.
When I was 16 I got a girlfriend, but there was no
passion, so I decided I needed a passionate girl with
a zest for life.
In college I dated a passionate girl, but she was too
emotional. Everything was an emergency; she was a
drama queen, cried all the time and threatened suicide.
So I decided I needed a girl with stability.
When I was 25 I found a very stable girl but she
was boring. She was totally predictable and never
got excited about anything. Life became so dull that
I decided that I needed a girl with some excitement.
When I was 28 I found an exciting girl, but I couldn't
keep up with her. She rushed from one thing to another,
never settling on anything. She did mad impetuous things
and made me miserable as often as happy. She was
great fun initially and very energetic, but directionless.
So I decided to find a girl with some real ambition.
When I turned 31, I found a smart ambitious girl with
her feet planted firmly on the ground and married her.
She was so ambitious that she divorced me and took
everything I owned.
I am now older and wiser,
and am looking for a girl with big *****. - DigablePlanet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+62It's not that marriage "sucks." It's the fact that there are ridiculous expectations going into marriage that couples don't discuss before they tie the knot. Think about, how much is an average wedding? People go into debt to have the "best day of their lives" just because Da Beers says the Man should spend two months salary on an engagement ring or the media portraying the special day to spend 20 grand. Also, the generation getting married now, my generation, has had to experience divorce on a historic level. People co-habit for years before they get married, so they can build up that capital needed to start a life together.
Plus, does marriage "suck" or are our social policies the real problem? Corporations continue to ***** their employees on days off, maternal/paternal leave, pensions, the list can go on. Men and Women get married in the most crucial times of their lives, mid-20's where the stress of a career with the constant possibility of getting laid off compounds with the unrealistic expectations of being a newlywed. - gubin09, on 10/12/2007, -13/+71In communist Russia, wife marries you!
- laserblazer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+59False dichotomy. Not getting married does not equate to loneliness. There are plenty of desperately lonely spouses out there, and plenty of fulfilled singletons.
- drafhk, on 10/12/2007, -7/+58His friends and the other 69.9999% of the population.
- sogracefully, on 10/12/2007, -17/+68people who get married for stupid reasons have crappy marriages. conclusion: stupid people have stupid, unhappy marriages. not everyone has stupid, unhappy marriages.
- Neiby, on 10/12/2007, -18/+64"Get over your ego, find a gal that's fun to live with, enjoy her company, and treat each other nicely. What's so taboo about this?"
Oh. to be young and naive again. - zkirill, on 10/12/2007, -3/+48Take this advice fellow men. Remember the 8 years rule, that's how long you have to date a woman to really know her inside out, if not longer. Marriage is great commitment and divorce is a terrible scar, both emotional and financial. Don't marry until you date for at least 8 years and learn the person's reactions to all the different things out there. Too long? Well, if you both love each other, why does it even matter?
- Darcoby, on 10/12/2007, -4/+45I've been with my wife for 19 years. One thing you need to learn and learn early is marriage is NOT one sided, it is a give and take. It is a 50/50 partnership both working towards the same goals. That is what makes marriage works.
- bitt3n, on 10/12/2007, -5/+42"I have an Asian wife, its nice. I'd recommend it."
why do you call your wife "it"? - drjekelmrhyde, on 10/12/2007, -10/+45 Men only need a sammich ,beer, tv, the net, and a BJ every now and then most women just cant handle that .
Dont you just hate it when your girlfriend calls and dont have shyt to talk about - Godel, on 10/12/2007, -7/+42I have an Asian wife, its nice. I'd recommend it.
- Comatose51, on 10/12/2007, -7/+40@Akaji: I really hate comments and generalizations like yours as much as I hate the article. How do you know that? Are you me? I don't go out partying and having one night stands. My favorite time with a girl was a 4 hour long dinner and conversation that flew by until we were the last people left. Still, I'm not in a hurry to get married. On the contrary, I think it is an attitude like yours, thinking marriage will cure everything and answer all your questions that lead to their failure. I want to be self sufficient first and then let marriage add to my life instead of expecting it to somehow complete it for me. The world is huge and I want to see it first before being tied down with all the practical consequences of a marriage or even a long term relationship. No I don't go sleeping around; I am on digg.com after on.
- kanemano, on 10/12/2007, -16/+49#1 marred the chick only because he knocked her up
#2 workaholic who never paid attention to his wife
#3 Abusive prick
Yup, great sample there. - laserblazer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+36Yup - it's a double-standard that doesn't get the kind of air-time that the Glass Ceiling does.
Double-standards apply to both genders. That's reality. - betona, on 10/12/2007, -3/+33I've been married 24 years and it most certainly is NOT a 50/50 thing all the time.
A successful marriage sometimes is 80/20, sometimes it's 20/80--and sometimes it's 10/90 or 70/30. Each person has to accept both the give and the take, be unselfish to give in their 90% or even 100% sometimes. It's about being family. - exit82, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29Guess I can see where I effed up then. The day after my weddiing was our 8 year anniversary. Almost 3 years later, she just moved out and after all the crap about not wanting to jump into a new relationship I find out she is already sleeping with another guy. Damn, where were you 3 years ago, I could've used the knowledge of the 8 year rule. Now I get to sit in a near empty house that I am trying to sell while some other guy sleeps next to my wife (still not legally divorced), all because she doesn't think she is good for me anymore. Yeah, marriage, I won't be jumping back onto that wagon again anytime soon. Damn, 8 year rule, who'd a thunk it.
Unfortunately no sarcasm here for those expecting a /sarcasm - DeucesWild, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30I married a Japanese and couldn't be happier. I would have to really screw something up for her to want a divorce. It's not in her culture to book it out of a marriage on a whim like these American women. No one in her immediate or extended family has ever gotten a divorce. And she cooks a mean bowl of yakisoba to boot. The ability to live in either country is pretty neat also. Oh and it also helps that her entire family is atheist like me.
Having had to suffer through two divorces growing up thanks to my mom it is not something I ever want to go through again. - laserblazer, on 10/12/2007, -10/+37If you love someone, why bring the law into it? For a piddling tax-break?
It's the Church that wants you to consume their services and justify their lazy-assed employees. It's the Church that wants to limit your birth-control options so you breed new slaves (and votes) for them.
Live with your mate until you die or wish to find a new mate. Let the divorce lawyers feed from the garbage in the alleys where they belong. - MrFlesh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29This isn't even isolated to marriage. Everybody starts looking for that life long partner right out of college/highschool. Hardly anybody stops and looks at how happy thier parents and other adults are. They simply treat it as the next step to "growing up". I chose not to walk this path and all my friends that did always say, "When are you gonna grow up." It's resentment that makes them say that, not anything I have done. They resent the regular vacations, the 2 year change in partners, the nice cars, the come home to a nice quiet house after work, and the fact that I'm only responsible for myself. People that bury themselves under debt, mortgages, kids and a wife/husband are trapped they hate thier lives (even though they won't admit it) They were stupid when they were younger and only now looking back see that they missed all kinds of oppritunity. When your smart enough to not get married or have kids it's funny to look at these people.
e.g. A girlfriend broke up with me when I was 20 cause she said she didn't want to spend the rest of her life with someone working at the mall. Now 10 years later she is buried under 3 kids, divorced living with her grandma and working at..........you guessed it, the mall. I on the other hand moved out of small town U.S. have lived in three major cities..and pursued a career.......every once in a while I send her a pic through email.....of my latest vacation..... - EVogel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29@grammer
Basically: When you first meet someone, you don't meet them.. you meet their representative.
agreed. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29Being a kid with divorced parents sucks a good deal. You might get extra presents around christmas time, but that's just worthless crap. My parents live a hundred miles apart. I haven't seen my dad in a few months :(
Someone once said to me: "It is not a question of whether or not GAY marriage should be legal, but rather, should marriage in general be legal?" - brokencode, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32Google says find an Asian wife. I wonder why? Heh.
- AllenS, on 10/12/2007, -11/+36damn, replying in the wrong place...crap, trying to make up something. quick...think! can't think of anything. Oh now, I will get dugg down. NOOOO!!!!
- petersms, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26It takes longer than 6 months to get to know somebody. Don't rush it.
- AllenS, on 10/12/2007, -10/+32Another two words:
"accidental" fall - jtorkbob, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29If you ask these men's spouses I'm sure you'll find that they have the other side of the tale. This guy's perspective is hardly neutral. People get divorced because they marry for the wrong reasons, and because they're too selfish. Every person needs different things. For too many they don't know until it's too late.
- mywhitenoise, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26I don't have a fear of comittment, I just hate being around some crazy bitch that acts like she's going to change, but doesn't.
- TheRealM3D, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25I got married at 22 and years later I am perfectly happy. The problem for most people is that they think getting married is about making themselves happy. They've got it backwards. Getting married is about making your spouse happy. Until you can A) be satisfied living entirely for the happiness of someone else and B) find someone to marry who can also live that way, then don't get married.
Love and Marriage are about giving yourself entirely to someone else, not satisfying your own urges and desires through someone who makes you feel good. Get it right or don't do it, otherwise you will absolutely be unhappy with your marriage. - Comatose51, on 10/12/2007, -12/+32@skyshock21: How about just being thankful for your blessings and good luck that you found a woman who you think you can be with forever instead of passing judgment on the rest of us? When a sizable number of marriages end in failure and a good number of adults cheat on their spouse or partner, I think some of us are right to be skeptical.
- TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -8/+28Lloyd Dobler: I got a question. If you guys know so much about women, how come you're here at like the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?
Joe: By choice, man. - adriyel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23Not to be too clinical about the matter but....
guys, protect yourselves. Get a damn prenuptial.
If she doesn't want to sign, she's evil and cannot be trusted.
Period. - knightblade2oo4, on 10/12/2007, -8/+27an article titled 'why men want to get married' may have wielded a shorter list.
- solbern, on 10/12/2007, -19/+38Cause being alone for the rest of your life is a better option?
Maybe I'm just an optimist... - jtorkbob, on 10/12/2007, -2/+218 years = common law marriage in my book. Breaking up at that stage is hardly less than divorce.
- xutopia, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22@nightlie "Don't marry american women...the phrase "till death do us part" do not seem to apply to them..."
Oh it does... it's just that they haven't found the right way to kill you without getting caught. - AWBoy666, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22Something I will never understand.....
It's so easy for women to keep men happy, but they usually won't bother putting the time or energy into it.
Why? Because it's so hard for them to be kept happy and they don't want you to be happy unless they are. - jokerthief, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Engagement rings symbolize marriage very accurately.
Men spend two months salary and get their woman a sparkling magnificent diamond. Women get men a plain, bland strip of gold.
That pretty much spells out what you can expect from married life. -
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