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- inactive, on 03/20/2008, -11/+143Something to ponder - I just watched Celebrity Rehab on VH1 and Seth Binzer and Jaimee Foxworth were both shown using crack and pot respectively. This wasn't on YouTube, it was on a major cable network. Why are the police going after these guys for stealing tacos and not the others for drug use? How are these two things different? Special treatment that celebs get aside, I don't see legally how these two illegal acts that were filmed are any different.
- fox1324, on 03/20/2008, -6/+107One thing noone seems to notice is...
doesnt SEVEN YEARS IN PRISON seem an insanely severe maximum for stealing $15 worth of tacos?
Think about it... the tacos were worth $15 *retail*, and probably cost the taco place less than half that to make themselves.
How many HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of TAXPAYER (yours and mine) dollars would be spent trying, convicting, imprisoning, feeding, these 3 kids over the next seven years? Does it seem worth it to you?
It would be easier and more effective to fix our laws and economy so that conditions for this sort of behavior do not arise in the first place. - faskill, on 03/20/2008, -7/+84Petty theft doesn't warrant 30 days in jail. Intent to defraud for amounts less than $20 doesn't warrant the man hours from the justice system or the district attorneys office.
- Grahamcracker, on 03/20/2008, -2/+71If the big guy in the youtube video was the one "crying like a baby", I'd much rather see that.
- MsAntiSunshine, on 03/20/2008, -0/+61Dugg for good-natured white man laugh he pulled off as Mr. Kennedy.
- Akadjjoel, on 03/20/2008, -8/+69Ha ha! That's what they get for being well known idiots.
- fakekevinrose, on 03/20/2008, -2/+56The fat guy was really convincing. Is there an Oscar category for scamming
- frostbyt, on 03/20/2008, -10/+54Yeah way to waste tax dollars money on putting these guys in jail for 7 years over $15 bucks. Great now we have to pay $150,000 per year * 7 years = $1050000. Oh not to mention when they come out their lives are now ruined and are no value to society. Now they will most likely go on well fair and be even a bigger drain on us. A slap on the wrist with 50 hours community service would have been the smarter option.
- bossm4n, on 03/20/2008, -1/+45I could see going to jail for In N' Out burger, but Del Taco?
- Chairboy, on 03/20/2008, -6/+42You don't believe there's a difference between stealing from someone versus using drugs? Seriously?
When you steal, you're hurting other people directly. If you're really unclear on the concept, you may be operating under the assumption that all laws are created equal and are exactly as heinous. This is, of course, a fallacy. Jaywalking and rape both violate laws, but you'd have to get up pretty early in the morning to suggest the two were equivalent. - Otto, on 03/20/2008, -0/+33Read the article. They actually got 30 days in jail and 3 years probation. The possible maximum was 7 years.
- arcangelgabriel, on 03/20/2008, -6/+39Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.
- Mootabolife, on 03/20/2008, -4/+36It's called fame and money, America runs on them.
- morrisonm, on 03/20/2008, -2/+33The Broken already did this!
- brbubba, on 03/20/2008, -0/+30I have to question whether this is really a crime. The guy in question could just claim that he really had a bad batch of tacos and that he was extending the truth to receive remuneration for his tacos. And at the end of the day I could claim I was the pope, but the manager willingly chose to hand over the tacos for free. So my question is, how is this any different than convincing someone to donate money to your organization or a salesman making a sale based on questionable claims?
In any case I have a feeling this idiot opened his mouth when they got him into the police station. Had he had an ounce of intelligence and kept his mouth shut and asked for a lawyer I doubt this would have been an issue and he probably would have served no jail time. Petty theft is a rather minor offense that, at least in New York, is dealt with in the same court where traffic violations are handled. This seems more a case of police overreacting due to a perceived fear of widespread copy-cats. - orangefly, on 03/20/2008, -0/+30they can't prove from a video what you had were real drugs....
- superrad, on 03/20/2008, -0/+29Kevin Rose did this in the broken except it was with pizza. How come he's not in jail :(
- hokkos, on 03/20/2008, -1/+28Comment from Youtube : "Wow congratulations on being idiots...maybe you should try scamming a fitness center next time fatass... "
- zebraz, on 03/20/2008, -0/+26It is not illegal to do drugs.
It is illegal to possess them. - sponeil, on 03/20/2008, -0/+20Actually, I think people will still imitate the act. They just won't post it on YouTube.
- nealsoad, on 03/20/2008, -1/+18You would call the police over $19? Wow....
- Gman311, on 03/20/2008, -3/+18haha, the even provided their own mug shots at the end
- falstaff, on 03/20/2008, -1/+16If a couple MP3s are worth $200k in the eyes of the justice system, then actual, tangible tacos should be worth MILLIONS! These guys got off easy.
Almost forgot...***** the RIAA. - Mr8lack, on 03/20/2008, -5/+20Maybe you should use some and stop posting that stupid comment.
- PleaseJustDie, on 03/20/2008, -0/+15Its not really going to prevent it, you would have to be a moron to do this to begin with, so morons will continue to do it.
Hell just look at that Chris Hanson show Dateline: To Catch a Predator, half the pedophiles they catch are like "Hey I know you, your that guy who catches predators, I watch that show." - Mootabolife, on 03/20/2008, -5/+20Corporate is great if you have a real complaint. ***** like this just makes it worse for all of us.
- LemmingJesus, on 03/20/2008, -0/+14I hope you guys here on Digg realize your lord and savior, Kevin Rose did this with a pizza company on The Broken.
- Elliuotatar, on 03/20/2008, -1/+1430 days is still stupid. Community service would have been a cheaper and better option. Jailtime for stealing three dollars worth of taco meat? Gimme a freaking break.
- inactive, on 03/20/2008, -5/+16Dude, lay off the caffeine please. I never said I didn't believe there was a difference. I said I wanted to KNOW what the difference was from a legal standpoint of two illegal acts being videotaped. Which was answered by orangefly below - legally you would have to prove the drugs were real, which would be difficult if not impossible to do.
- zeejay, on 03/20/2008, -0/+11You're right - the cost of imprisonment is too high. Execute them.
No, wait, even better: make them work at Del Taco. - roomforpanic, on 03/20/2008, -0/+10Because it would be impossible to prove that the substances in question were actually coke or pot unless confiscated at the time of use.
- dagnome1984, on 03/20/2008, -0/+10Still jail is dumb. They should be forced to pay restitution. The company didn't get its money back by tossing those idiots into jail.
- adikt, on 03/20/2008, -2/+12Does that guy really look like he is surrounded by conditions that prevent him from obtaining nutritional sustenance? I bet you he sweats beef gravy.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 03/20/2008, -1/+11Or after eating all that, his 3rd stroke.
- adikt, on 03/20/2008, -2/+12He should have scammed a weight watchers for free meetings. Seriously, when you have so much back fat you look like your lying down when in fact your sitting in a car seat, it's time to cut the DelTaco out of your diet.
- ilikevag, on 03/20/2008, -1/+10Why would you report that?
- Melenor, on 03/20/2008, -1/+10Then who's to say those were real tacos?
- saxmaster, on 03/20/2008, -2/+11Imagine the hidden cost to society if criminals knew they could regularly get away with petty theft. if the consequences are minimal, then more and more people will be willing to steal, knowing that if they're caught, they won't pay too big a price.
- mickmel, on 03/20/2008, -1/+10Don't forget the other side of this. This has become a big story and it's giving a lot of people a free lesson on how to rip off restaurants. I still agree that they should have been punished, but I think it'll lead to a LOT of copycats who are smart enough not to record themselves.
http://www.thestreisandeffect.com/20080318/the-pol ... - xenuxenuts, on 03/20/2008, -1/+10You poor bastard. I'd say they scammed you if you actually ate their food.
- NJPENSO, on 03/20/2008, -1/+10You can't be arrested for a video of you doing coke/drugs period.
Doesn't matter who you are. - Entroper, on 03/20/2008, -0/+8That's actually not a bad idea. Have them personally apologize to Rosie and the rest of the staff for wasting their time, and have them wash dishes for free for a week to make up for it.
- LacY, on 03/20/2008, -1/+9I saw the Dr. from the Celebrity Rehab show on another talk show, and they asked him the same question, and that was his answer--that they were never *told* to do it on camera, thus Celebrity Rehab (the show) isn't in trouble, and that they can always claim they were not using real drugs and that it was just for demonstration purposes.
- queestaesto, on 03/20/2008, -1/+9This could have been his 3rd strike.
- JSeivwright, on 03/20/2008, -2/+10Reminds me something Ricky would do with Cory and Trevor from Trailer Park Boys.
- geekdw, on 03/20/2008, -2/+9I was going to ask the same question. But he did a good job of covering up the name of where he got the pizza from...and Kevin probably has a lot more money than those guys, and you can get away with anything if you have the money lol. Of course that would defeat the purpose of getting the free pizza...so I dunno?
- inactive, on 03/20/2008, -1/+8Are you kidding me? I never look for informed opinions on Digg. :D
I am, however, looking to start discussion about a related event. These comment thingies, isnt that what they are for? - dougmc, on 03/20/2008, -0/+7> he is a known Gang member
Is being a `known gang member' a crime? And if the answer is `no, not by itself', why are the police/DA using it as a criteria for deciding which actual crimes to prosecute? - BESTenemy, on 03/20/2008, -0/+7Hey, people, do you remember Kevin Rose did a social engineering experiment getting a free pizza on "The Broken"? How come that one never got him into trouble?
- dougmc, on 03/20/2008, -0/+7> I said I wanted to KNOW what the difference was from a legal standpoint of two illegal
> acts being videotaped.
Looking for informed legal opinions? I'm not sure digg is the best place for that ... -
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