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- chmeee, on 11/14/2007, -4/+321RIP Mitch Hedberg. They finally found a scenario where a receipt for a donut is necessary.
- GoblinJuice, on 10/14/2007, -11/+172I can't believe someone would steal a doughnut. Fifty-friggin-two cents. Pay for it!
- codemonkeysteve, on 10/10/2007, -7/+131Admit it, Xuvious, you're just a shill for Big Pastry. ;)
- bossm4n, on 10/10/2007, -21/+119While I agree this seems extreme, this guy is a habitual criminal and as was stated in the article, since he committed assault in the act of a robbery, no matter how small the theft was, it turns the crime into a felony, which makes the third time he's been charged with a felony. I certainly hate to see my tax dollars paying to house this guy and give him three squares a day, but he's obviously a blight on society. I also don't thing your arguments hold up in this case, especially the cruel and unusual punishment--he's being incarcerated not tortured. The only part that's cruel is he never got to eat the donut.
- markperia, on 10/10/2007, -6/+97That would go over well in prison...
"what did you do to get here?"
"killed 10 babies"
"raped someone"
"stole a doughnut"
"could you pickup that soap..." - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+79Don't steal and don't hit people.
- KMye, on 10/10/2007, -4/+69I agree this is potential sentencing is shameful, but you're misunderstanding double-jeopardy. His prior record isn't being reintroduced to the court as evidence which would result on his guilt or innocence in this case, which is what the 7th amendment refers to, it's being taken into account with his sentence.
- yensed, on 10/10/2007, -3/+65I refuse to pass judgment till I know all the facts.. Exactly what type of doughnut are we talking about here?
- tizz66, on 10/10/2007, -2/+63Uh, you clearly don't know what double jeopardy is or means.
- iBenx, on 10/10/2007, -6/+55He did steal the cops main source of food there.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -13/+47"United States
All states other than North Carolina permit citizen arrests if a felony crime is witnessed by the citizen carrying out the arrest, or when a citizen is asked to help apprehend a suspect by the police. The application of state laws varies widely with respect to misdemeanor crimes, breaches of the peace, and felonies not witnessed by the arresting party. Note particularly that American citizens do not have the authorities or the legal protections of the police, and are strictly liable before both the civil law and criminal law for any violation of the rights of another."
"according to the police report. He offered to give the doughnut back. She declined and grabbed his arm."
SHE grabbed his arm BEFORE he hit her back, thus not making it applicable under a citizens arrest because he did not hit her first, making it a misdemeanor not a felony, it was self defense, hes innocent for the assault.
lets hope someone brings this up...
sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_arrest, and the story itself of course - Lafftermath, on 10/10/2007, -1/+35Someone needed to bring ink and paper into this.
- mek11, on 10/10/2007, -2/+33I'm glad someone explained double jeopardy to this guy. If he's going to use double-jeopardy in his argument, the least he can do is understand what double-jeopardy really means.
- Myonosken, on 10/10/2007, -7/+38Are you stupid? You have the most people in prison, but also one of the highest crime rates. It seems your system is ***** beyond belief.
- jcounterman, on 10/10/2007, -4/+30But this is America! He DESERVED that donut!
- bowens44, on 10/10/2007, -10/+35Too soft on crime???? You're kidding right? Per capita we have more people in jail then any other nation on the planet. The punishment needs to fit the crime. This doesn't, it's barbaric.
- HisTumness, on 10/10/2007, -0/+23You win!
"Don't even act like I didn't buy that donut. I've got the documentation right here." - rock774, on 10/10/2007, -18/+40I bet he stole it from a cop !
- picsectionpleez, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22"After his arrest, he forgot all about the case. He assumed it had been dismissed. He spent the summer in jail on outstanding warrants." -this guy sounds like a serial no good thief.
- PurpZeY, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19The sentence being discussed here is merely potential. Sentencing is generally made by the Judge using his discretion. The fact that the possible punishment is so high is only indicative of the statutes in that state -- which many other states have. Also, should the sentence turn out to be way over the scope of what is reasonable for the crime the sentence can be overturned on appeal.
- WebFusion, on 10/10/2007, -7/+24"...Masters briefly appeared in court Friday. His case was continued until next month. He is shaken by the possibility of a third felony conviction"
...but not enough to stop stealing. Screw him - he knew he already had "two strikes", yet he continued his criminal behavior.
I agree that non-violent career criminals shouldn't just be locked up...it costs us honest tax payers too much money to support their sorry asses. Let's instead put them into hard labor chain-gangs building roads, processing recycling, or any other slave labor we can think of. - Frei, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19I thought this was a viral campaign for The Simpsons film.
- airiox, on 10/11/2007, -11/+27Exactly, this guy is a total prick and needs to be taught a lesson. 30 years is a bit harsh, but his willful disregard for our laws shows he needs to spend some serious time in jail to think about how much of a prick he is.
- RadicalEdward, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18bonus round?
- cyberdork, on 10/10/2007, -9/+24You are right. The more small time criminals you put in jail, the more violent criminals you create. It's that easy.
- mediatedthought, on 10/10/2007, -1/+142 points sir. That was hilarious.
- Scottamus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15Wow, steal one doughnut and get your doughnut hole glazed for 30 years.
- thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15How about, don't be a repeat-offender....
- joshhan, on 10/10/2007, -5/+17Yes, maybe he hurt his arm from when the clerk grabbed it. Let him sue her and the store for false imprisonment.
How about this novel idea? DON'T STEAL FROM STORES.
Amiright? - therealgeddylee, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Best line in the article?
"Still, for all the attention paid to the doughnut incident, one detail may never emerge: the kind of doughnut Masters stole."
I re-read this line about 12 times, mentally debating whether or not the entire article was Onion-style satire. - mrgreyer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Well i was fired from Pick N Save like 3 years ago for "stealing" a donut. It was in the back loading dock area, counted out on a sheet, and expired donut heading for a home in the garbage compacter. I was charged with retail theft, which i tried to fight as no one could tell me how something that was clearly trash could be considered "retail" as it could not be sold. Anyways i was fired on the spot, after a spotless 3 years with no sick days, and charged 185 bucks for the donut. WTF is up with the world? YOU MUST THROW OUT GOOD FOOD!!
- Pyrogen, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13The hell? Stop using Wiki in matters of law, and read Missouri Revised Statutes. Missouri's Citizen Arrest statute doesn't apply here, she's a merchant attempting to detain a shoplifter, different threshold applies.
More importantly, you know how you can't fight the cops (legally) when they try to arrest you, self defense doesn't apply? Fact of life: You lose the right of self defense when force is lawfully used against you, say... like when you're resisting lawful arrest. - SomeImagination, on 10/10/2007, -10/+21Shouldn't be stealing in the first place. If he got away with it he'd no doubt do something similar again since he's a repeat offender.
- ItsMyWii, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Dugg for a guy facing a murderer's term for stealing a donut. I really want to see a follow up article to find out how the trial goes.
- pmuse, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13Is his name Jean Valjean by any chance?
- nepawoods, on 10/10/2007, -8/+19"Where is the deterrance of the prospect of incarceration to prevent crime, any crime, if we make the punishment for the crime of theft situational due to the item being stolen?"
Use your head. There is much greater motive to steal a more valuable item, so theft of more valuable items require greater deterrents.
A one day prison sentence would be enough to deter most people from stealing a donut. For the rare few who wouldn't be deterred, so what??? It's a freaking donut! - isaactwito, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Dude, that's harsh. You should probably exact revenge.
- Sawta, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12"Masters is a small man, wiry, about 5-foot-6, with short-cropped hair, a graying goatee and hound-dog eyes. He is a "frequent flier" at the St. Francois County detention center. "Yeah, Scotty is well known," said Deputy Sheriff Dennis Smith, reviewing Masters' criminal history. Masters, who lives in the nearby town of Park Hills, has been arrested more than a dozen times: for being drunk, for shoplifting, for missed court dates, for marijuana possession. He spent most of the 1990s and a stretch from 2000 to 2004 in state prison for the felonies of torching a car to collect insurance and possessing methamphetamine ingredients." Poor guy..
- objectcode, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10he will get fed in prison
- dagnabbit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Oh No! It's back home in the file. Under "D".
- gn0stik, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10It was a sarcastic reference to American entitlement syndrome. Some people amaze me, you only get sarcasm with a /sarcasm tag.
- MiDri, on 10/10/2007, -5/+14The fact that many jails are privatized and the state pays corporations to run them has nothing to do with how many jails we have... Nothing...
- brian1001001, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13I'm with Max... your a idiot.
Increasing the penalties for multiple offenses is nowhere near double jeopardy, as proven in the US courts many times as well as by common sense. And as for this case, if this guy has such a callous disregard for the rules of society that he can't be bothered to pay 50 cents for a freaking donut and has to assault the clerk over it, I say toss the key. - runCMD, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13this man wanted to go back to jail. 'habitual offender' ... let him go.
- thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -14/+23Fine, I bet if we start executing all felons, that would clear out a LOT of jail space.
- gl77, on 03/31/2008, -2/+10actually im willing to bet that you havent spent a day of your life on the inside. so you wouldnt really know would you? you may have heard its bad, but you dont know this as fact. neither do i for that matter, which is why i will not make a comment as stupid as yours and i will digg you down. "sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but i'd never know because i dont eat the filthy *****"
- alpinecow, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12The law doesn't work that way...shopkeepers have the right to detain an individual when they believe that person has committed theft against their store. They have full right to question and virtually no limits on habeas corpus, at least not until the police arrive.
- cyberdork, on 10/10/2007, -15/+22You ever noticed that the US is the country with the most prisoners, but at the same time the crime rate is still much much higher than anywhere else in the developed world. Don't you think that something is wrong, and maybe part of it is that people like Masters will turn into a violent criminal by the time he is released from prison.
- StrangeFamous, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10"What if" ???
"What if" you hit someone after running a red light? It's possible! Does that mean that once anyone runs a red light, they should lose their right to drive ever again?
Use your common sense. You can't prosecute and punish someone for what "might have happened" if things had gone differently. That's unconstitutional and dimwitted.
Let the punishment fit the crime. In this case, IT DOES NOT. - spawnfree, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11while chewing on your stolen goods.
are you one of these crims that actually beieves he has a right to other peoples stuff? -
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