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- DigiDave, on 10/12/2007, -12/+173Okay fine... I'll say it. This really is worth 1,000 words.
- chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+134Graph of Houston crime:
Pre-Katrina: =======
Post-Katrina: =================== - sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -21/+129It appears all the brown people moved out. Although I see a small smurf population is hanging tough.
- SurrealDream, on 10/12/2007, -7/+90Sorry, ran out of editing time. Quote taken from a post on the flickr page by the photographer:
"1086 pages of GNO residential listings (= above the blue line) in the 2004 directory vs. 765 pages in the new one. Page thickness is the same as far as I can tell.
What's also interesting is that the 2007 directory has a Lasik surgery banner ad (?!) on the top of every page, reducing the number of listings per page to 250 or so; there's an everage of about 300 listings per page in the 2004 directory. So the new edition is even smaller than it looks."
-jonnodotcom - Jscoville, on 10/12/2007, -7/+55Very solemn way to show the disaster. Dugg
- mr1337, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38I love how everyone thinks that Katrina only affected New Orleans. I guess it makes for good press. There's another whole side of the coast that got it bad too... I would even say worse than N.O. They dodged a bullet. We (the people that got the east side of the storm) didn't. Having your home town reduced to rubble changes you. I can't even begin to define how much Katrina has changed my life. One day everything is there and the next, it's like you're living in a 3rd world country. One picture cannot even begin to describe the devastation that Katrina brought. A million pictures wouldn't. Trust me, it's different when you live it. That's all I have to say.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+37"It's a legit question."
Well, secretly the crab people have been kidnapping katrina victims for use in their horrible and unspeakable experiments. Meanwhile, they've begun a national cover story where crab people pose as refugees migrating to areas of the US not devastated. - nazadus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30I moved to Houston a little less than a year ago and I frequently hear that remark (well, you used a graph.. but still). I also hear traffic has gotten worse too.
- crash331, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19He probably means the area from Gulfport to Mobile. They got obliterated.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21I'd like to see the white pages of Houston pre-Katrina and post.
- JudgeDredd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19I thought for sure it would be this one:
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/2388/heinekenlooters8hlsu4.jpg - razorweb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16http://duggmirror.com/offbeat_news/The_true_impact_of_hurricane_Katrina_One_Picture/
- hybridcreation, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16My uncle lives in Houston and he says that is definitely the case.
Tragic what happened in NOLA, but so is the city of Houston (and others) having its crime rate go through the roof. - pipdip, on 10/12/2007, -12/+27I had a serious question about where the people of New Orleans went to and I'm getting dugg down? I don't understand.
- mr1337, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14@gcnaddict
I'm talking about the Mississippi Gulf Coast. All of it. Waveland, Diamondhead, Bay St. Louis, Pass Christian, Long Beach, Gulfport, Biloxi, Ocean Springs, Pascagoula. It would seem that the devastation would weaken the further east you went but there is not much difference over 45+ miles of coast. - SickBoy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Picture's been removed?
- wolferz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11@grammarpolice
The comments from the link point out that the new book has 50 fewer listings per page in addition to having 300 fewer "white pages." While they might be using a smaller font, there is still a dramatic drop in the number of people listed in the phone book. 300 listings per page multiplied by 300 missing pages is 90,000 listings missing due to fewer pages. 50 fewer listings per page multiplied by 700 existing pages is 35,000 listings missing because of ad-space. rough estimate if my math skills haven't completely left me is 125,000 fewer people listed in the phone book.
This is why they are digging you down as best as I can tell. That or what broomett said. - davesphone00, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11My car's been broken into twice and the second time there wasn't anything left to steal... and I drive a POS. First time in uptown Houston. Second time was in downtown. I wasn't going to blame Katrina but the cops told me that it was so.
- Darthmalt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11what mr1337 said
There were towns that literally were wiped out only foundations were left. - leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I tried to find my aunt's house in waveland after the hurricane and could not even find the street, much less a street sign, or a house, or a foundation.
Then I return to New Orleans and I see a hundred thousand houses without a single roofing tile missing, but completely destroyed by water. Maybe the attention NO gets is because it was preventable there, while in Mississippi little could have stopped the damage from that storm.
Honestly I truly miss waveland, that was a very special place. - mr1337, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@crash331
Yes, obliterated would be the correct term to use. - Pottersquash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Im surprised this has been dugg 1,000 times and it appears only you have noticed.
Small book as zero yellow pages, and the cover says its just the "white pages" Large book is predominately Yellow pages.
They are diff books. - mateo60, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15Excellent graph. Powerpoint quality even! ;)
- ArbonThePirate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Wow, so a bunch of Idiots got smart and moved away from a place that floods all the time, good for them
- poorbusker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Yeah, actually thousands of people living in New Orleans left weeks after the hurricane for Houston which had given them places to stay while the initial clean up was underway. However, many decided not leave rather they made Texas their new home.
So to me, this isn't that "shocking" - Ruski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Picture removed, but duggmirror caught it! :3 http://duggmirror.com/offbeat_news/The_true_impact_of_hurricane_Katrina_One_Picture/
- nemrel, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15@software2
Crab People.....Crab People.......Taste like crab look like people!......Crab People! - tmessing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Where's the stack of arrest reports from Houston Pre- and Post- Katrina?
- leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9for pipdip, most people moved within driving distance - houston, atlanta, mobile, jackson ms, tenessee. But they are everywhere, I find my old customers in washington state, Ohio, NY, etc..
http://www.npr.org/news/specials/katrina/oneyearlater/diaspora/ - Kurto2021, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11The white pages are probably the same it is the black pages that have reduced.
- wolferz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7grrr mis-post, digg down...
- gomezfreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I've seen a couple of comments that I'd like to address.
"Where did everyone go?"
Well people who were working class, you know those of us who got loan applications instead of handouts although we pay for said handouts by working, settled in other cities where the pay is better, the housing is cheaper, the crime is lower, and the local government isn't quite as corrupt. I used my insurance to pay off the damaged house, bought a house in another state and sold the flood damaged house. I could not and would not want to go back b/c I don't feel its safe for myself or my family. New Orleans is a place with great architecture, food, and music, but being a lifelong resident of the city, I can honestly say that it has for a very long time being stricken with lazy criminals, whom for generations have leeched off of public assistance. I for one won't return.
"A bunch of idiots wised up and moved away."
I wouldn't call us idiots, many, many, people evacuated BEFORE the storm, the ones who refused to leave or seek shelter was proof of Darwinism at work. There WERE people who stayed behind for the sole purpose of looting if the city didn't flood. People have lived in New Orleans for many generations for the most part without major incident. New Orleans was a well established port before the American Revolution ever took place, and is in fact the ONLY truly European city in the US. Theres a history there that goes back to before there was a United States, and you can feel and sense that history there.
We were told we were safe, and for many years we had been, it may be naive but people felt confident in the levees.(I didn't, hence I evacuated)
Making a statement about people being idiots for where they live and work is stupid. Would you say people are stupid for living in Kansas b/c they get tornado's in late winter and early spring, or that people in California are stupid b/c they get earthquakes? Or course not its all relative to circumstance.
That phone book is smaller b/c the working class has left, and the ones who remain continue to leave. When the bulk of teachers, doctors, lawyers, nurses, artists, business owners, police, fireman, and many others move on to greener pastures from an unsafe (now known for sure) environment, you can realistically expect the phone book to get smaller.
The final part of my rant here, check Nola.com. Todays front page shows that over 60% of 2006's murders went unsolved, they cant even get suspects. Now ask yourself, would you still want to live in a city like that?
/end rant - Wolfboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6That photo is the 2005 white pages vs. the 2007 white pages. It actually shows that New Orleans is down, but recovering. The 2007 white pages is bigger than the 2006 white pages.
More telling is the entire 2005 telephone directory vs. the entire 2006 directory.
The pre-Katrina phone directory (yellow pages and white pages) was two books.
For 2006, the directory was so thin, BellSouth fit the yellow pages and the white pages together into one book.
Here is a photo of the difference:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46376630@N00/383685765/ - llamabox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Thats pretty crazy. But part of me thinks that the one of the left is one of those combination directories that includes both commercial and residential numbers. I know one of the phone books I get is such... And not to mention the one on the left appears to be a combo of white and yellow pages and the one on the right is all white.
Thoughts? - member57, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13New Orleans was a crap hole, even worse now. Too bad all that money is being blown on a swamp, that will always be a swamp. The Katrina "disaster" was an example of America at it's worst, at every level from the emergency response to the despicable way the residents acted. From the morons looting to the idiot Mayor, the dumbass Governor, the bumbling FEMA.
- JK1150, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Out of all the images and video we've seen of the impact of Katrina, this is supposed to be the most powerful? Most of those people "missing" relocated, it's not like they died.
- Digg4all, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I thought it was going to be some a picture of a guy sitting in a room with 50 boxes of moldy shoes he looted during the flooding.
- mrfreeziexp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Don't bury him! The link works.
- trenchMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Oh my gosh, you are sooooo right. This is all his fault.
Perhaps Dubya is also to blame for your head being that far up your ass! - Jyff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6>.< who is not seeing the yellow pages on the left? seriously? they are NOT the same book. at all
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Stupid Bush. He should have made the hurricane go somewhere else! /sarcasm
- bkraft, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5New Orleans must be mourning the tragic loss of the illustrious and hyper-productive 9th ward.
- RideTHISbike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm writing from a New Orleans suburb (Metairie). At this moment, I can hear the drone of bulldozers and heavy equipment working feverishly to increase the height of a hurricane protection levee along Lake Pontchartrain; however, I can think of several New Orleans neighborhoods where the only sounds right now are tattered curtains blowing through broken windows.
As a personal witness to the tragedy caused by Katrina, I've seen the tears streaming down my mother's face as she gazed upon her ravaged Lakeview home. I know numerous others that lost their homes and am fighting to return to mine. I've attended funerals of those that died prematurely due to the storm, including a friend and mentor who married my wife and I...
The true measure of Katrina's cost extends far beyond the Gulf Coast. In fact, Katrina's aftershocks continue to reverberate around the globe. Every time we, the United States of America, the most powerful country in the world, make a promise to help another foreign country with this problem or that, our credibility to stand by that promise is compromised - so long as the U.S. citizens that inhabited the Gulf Coast communities devastated by Katrina are left to fester & die.
Our federal government built the flood protection levees that failed miserably. Now, instead of fully funding the levee projects endorsed by experts, the federal government cuts funding for these vital projects, prolonging their completion and unnecessarily putting Americans at additional risk - possibly for decades. On top of that, the President is pushing for more money and more troops in Iraq - a foreign country!
We need to solve our own problems before we go blustering around "solving" those of the world. Want proof? Just visit Bagdhad on the Mississippi - New Orleans.
By the way, if you can't find the original photo comparing the size of the New Orleans White Pages directory before and after Katrina, here's a photo of the White AND Yellow Pages pre and post storm:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonnodotcom/383806606/in/photostream/ - ragingchikn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I agree. Those are two different phone books and can't be compared.
- RideTHISbike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonnodotcom/383806606/in/photostream/
- KIERANMULLEN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Could it also be (besides less home and business listings) that less and less people advertise in the phone book ? Honestly its a waste of money.
- FluxHarmonic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ colt
I swear to god...some people can't take a joke. - Madh2orat, on 10/12/2007, -11/+14More like worth a thousand names.
- beccatalker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3mrl337, I'm from MS as well (northeast, though, so we just got the remnants of the storm...tree branches in the streets). I've heard and felt much of the same thing about NO being the focus of the storm.
I arrived at the conclusion that it must be a combination of 2 factors: 1)the loss of life in NO compared to MS and AL (which I'm not absolutely positive that it was higher, but it seems that way), and 2) the length of time that people were trapped after the levees broke.
I'm not discounting your losses at all. I think that human nature just tended to cause people to be more concerned with loss of life rather than loss of property. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If I were displaced from N.O. and living in, say, Bismarck ND, I'd open up an "Authentic New Orleans Creole" restaurant.
But that's just entrepreneurial spirit, not "gimme gimme gimme" -
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