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- 47f0, on 10/12/2007, -3/+89Those of us from 2059 know about this guy - he's a complete poser. First of all, he's not even from one of the gamma-earths - he's from some gawd-forsaken zeta-cluster earth, probably delta-sub-zed-9. Second of all, his machine is rubbish - absolute rubbish. Made by the same company that in your time-stream produced the Yugo, if that tells you anything. Which accounts for his confusion about which time-stream he ended up in.
So, really, you can't take this guy at his word. Honest. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+64Is it so terrible to ask "what if"?
I don't believe in John Titor either, but just imagine how silly we'll all feel come 2036 if it turned out to be true.
Personally speaking, I *love* the John Titor myth. I think its fun to ponder such silliness at 4am while surfing the web. I think its interesting to see YouTube videos of UFO's, even though I don't believe in them. I think Alex Jones raises some interesting points, even though the majority of his rhetoric is terribly innacurate. I was curious to view a few 9/11 conspiracy videos, even though none have convinced me. I like challenging my own "comfort zone". Am I alone in this? - enicholas, on 10/12/2007, -4/+48The most horrifying part about this was how many people actually took it seriously.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+44I'm a time traveler too. Tonight I will enter my machine (bed) turn on the apparatus (tv) and when I wake up I will be 6 hours later. I might even wake up with 'time wood'.
- UGM2099, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29Or he thought he was on a different Worldline than he actually was. In either case, some advance knowledge of 9/11 would have been nice, gosh!
- gypsyjoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28He introduced his parents to each other then left, job done.
- J3yrad, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23@enicholas
Yeah. Kind of like Scientology. - Calypsoaf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Here's the short long. He made some general claims, told us how the future would be, added the disclaimer that "you can change the future" and disappeared. The things he predicted didn't happen, and some people...I guess...think that we "changed the future" based on the "disclaimer".
- yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Hello.
My name is Hiro Nakamura.
I have a message for you.
Save the Japanese-learning memory-genius girl. Don't save the cheerleader. Save the Japanese-learning girl. - praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -0/+16P3ST4, I'd wager that destruction of mankind comes before the invention of a time machine.
- BigKitty, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16We heard about this some years back on Art Bell's show, and figured that this must be a work of science fiction authored by someone who wanted to warn everyone that the US was headed in the wrong direction.
It seemed to us that the unknown author was probably using this hoax as an attention-getting advice to get more buzz for his or her message. - PacoDG, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18Hoax or not, a lot of things Titor said were very intelligent, and I believe he had even commented on something Stephen Hawking had said that was wrong, and later on, Hawking had went back on this theory and it turned out Titor was right. Also, he had a lot of good things to say about how the world is and how people themselves are (very strong supporter of close family ties).
Whether the story was real or not, he said good things, dugg. - Breeder18, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14I remember reading this a few years, back. They guy went though a lot of trouble writing information, and taking pictures as I recall. Its not real obviously, but very interesting
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14I've always thought the idea of the grandparent paradox was fundamentally flawed. It relies on the idea that the universe follows a particular time-line. Remember that time is a human concept, there's nothing to say that there actually *is* a time-line for a paradox to exist in except in our heads, at least from what I understand.
- Tracon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I'm surprised no one has posted the real time traveler
http://timetraveler.ytmnd.com/
Remember he has only done this once before so be careful. - cyberdork, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@enicholas:
Yes!! That's what I thought!
I'm right now reading some of his postings and my favorites so far are:
"in 2036 Chocolate is outlawed."
and "A photo of the time machine unit installed in his car (a Corvette)."
I love that they are able to build a timemachine in 2036, but their digital cameras seem to have webcam quality :-)
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/john_titor_archive_page_images.html - Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Oh come on, "John Titor" obviously just wrote a pretty innovative work of science fiction using the medium of internet forums. He managed to create plausible, well-researched rules for time travel, and invented an imaginative dystopia that allowed him to air his libertarian political views. If that qualifies as a "hoax," then so does every other work of science fiction. I'd say this is more of an Internet-age equivalent to Orson Welles' War of the Worlds. That anyone actually believed John Titor is due partly to coincidence, and partly to his gifts as a storyteller.
- ub3rgeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Time travel to the past may be very improbable but travel to the future is very probable. When you approach the speed of light time slows down for you. So When you slow back down time will have passed faster for everyone else but you, there for you just traveled into the future.
edit: how am i ALWAYS beaten? - 5hinmyoken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7youre not alone, zaphod :D
my agnostic views on almost everything allow me to safely expand my mind and challenge my mindset. good fun. - nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7traveling to the future has been proven possible essentially by the theory of relativity. Travel at near light speed for long enough (Mazer Rakham - sp?) and you're essentially in the future.
In current science, they're actually trying to send a single particle back in time. They way they do it is really crazy. They have to make it go faster than the speed of light and they use something crazy like a huge spiral of millions of lasers to do it. I don't know really all the specifics but they're going to turn it on later this year i think. Once they turn it on, if it works, they should start receiving signals of particles they're going to send in a little while. They'll get the first signal BEFORE they ever send a particle. But the particles will only be able to go back to the instant they turn the machine on. - everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5i'd like to know who this guy actually was, and his views on how wide spread it's become since he did it.
- rarkai, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10A ***** live journal page? Come on.
- KyleGoetz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You're literally traveling to the future right now. Congratulations on your time travel. Going backwards, or going forwards faster than average is trickier. However, through the Theory of Relativity, you can travel to the future faster than you are traveling now through a concept called "time dilation." Thank you high school physics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation - Krumm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@Zaphod2016
Not at all - I wish I could Digg you up higher - it just appears that the current trend is to call people dumb, and shout "pics or it didn't happen" or "fake" at every youtube video rather than think about the bigger picture for a second. - Yorn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Not that I'm defending him, but diggadong, you need to read up more on his story. I'd suggest the wikipedia article on John Titor.
- Lerxst99, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This is amazing, this is the first time I've ever heard about this story. What's even more amazing is that is seems to have sparked a fan base for John Titor, websites have been created and freaking books have been written!
It should be so extremely easy to verify if John Titor really was telling the truth or not: Go forward two weeks in time and give us the newspaper headlines (on an exact date) and that week's lottery winning numbers.
Of course, people *always* have an excuse ready for not being able to do just /that/ (although they can make any other sorts of claim about the future and things which can't right away be verified).
It didn't amaze me when I visited some of those web pages for John Titor, and saw that his 'cult' also believes in about everything any kook can dream up. Conspiracy theories, Nostradamus, everything paranormal - you name it. And of course, they defend John Titor when his predictions doesn't come true as people defend Nostradamus and make his verses fit events /after/ they took place.
It's in reality sad to see that people have the need to believe in such nonsense; every time someone claim to have paranormal abilities - or anything out of the ordinary, they *always* fail scientific testing. The excuse of the day being "my powers didn't work that day", "my powers doesn't work like that!", "there was too much negative (re: skeptic) energy in the room so my powers failed to materialize" - just about any excuse will do.
And even still, their loyal fan base believes them. - zttrx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4And in other news, Ford has perfected his new-fangled "assembly line", and you can have a brand new model T in any color you want as long as it's black.
- Zopwx2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Does anyone have more info about this new alien hoax supposedly done by the same person?
- inactive, on 02/20/2009, -0/+4Probably the part of this I found most interesting was his prediction regarding CJD. I'm guessing that his prediction that CJD had a 30+ year incubation period was either a lucky guess, or he had done his research.. This is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creutzfeldt-Jakob_disease..
In The Lancet (June 2006), a University College London team has suggested that it may take more than 50 years for vCJD to develop, from their studies of kuru, a similar disease in Papua New Guinea 1. The reasoning behind the claim is that kuru was transmitted through cannibalism in Papua New Guinea when relatives would eat their dead relative's brains as a sign of mourning. In the 1950's, the practice was banned, thereby preventing any further possible transmission. In the late 20th century, however, kuru has reached epidemic proportions in certain Papua New Guinean communities, therefore suggesting that vCJD may also have a similar incubation period of 30 to 50 years.
Apart from this apparently confirming part of this outlandish story, it clued me in to my own risk of developing CJD, having eaten tons of Beef in 2 countries during their respective breakouts. - remyz16, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I was a big fan of John Titor's writings and at one time fancied myself a "Titor Believer". I'd love for this to all be true, but sadly there's a real world that I have to live in where time travel is just science-fiction.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4
Some more from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Mallett
ABC news:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/slab/wormholes/default.htm
uconn and data about the ring laser and theory for time travel...
http://www.physics.uconn.edu/~mallett/main/time_travel.htm - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Wasn't this a skit on MadTV once?
Oh crap...I just admitted that I used to watch that show, didn't I? Oh well...there goes my credibility....
However, I *did* travel 20 seconds into the future while writing this... so blah! - colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/292378_timeguy15.html
"It probably won't work," - From the guy trying to send particles back in time.
I'm sorry, but it's possible to travel forwards in time, but backwards? I don't think so. If it was possible, we'd probably have already encountered lots of people traveling back through time. - adeze, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I thought it turned out that the computer he was after really did do the 'secret' thing he said it did.. (i can't remember the details off the top of my head)
- carlhungis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This is pretty old. It was entertaining to read when it came out a few years ago. I enjoy thinking through the "what if" scenarios.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3He did say that time travel was initially researched in university in early 2000s...
kinda like this guys university research in 2001?
http://advance.uconn.edu/2001/010910/01091012.htm
If you see John tutors time machine diagram and pics, it appears he is using 2 of these things to get it working right, and send someone back to the place AND time... of their choosing.
BTW, John wrote about the time machine before this research came to light. - littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Strange indeed.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7If things had been changed according to his stories, then the future he visited would have also been changed so he wouldn't have 'returned' with the stories as originally told.
Its like a reverse Grandfather Paradox! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4So do I. And the Big Lebowski was a great movie.
Solidarity, brother. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Although I highly doubt this guy is actually from the future, the guy in the article "proving" he's a hoax makes some pretty weak points, to say the least.
- Exodin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The 2006 pic looks good if you're looking at it in 4D.
- SgtAl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Sounds like a good basis for a religion, maybe we should start it and charge dumb asses thousands of dollars to learn the secrets of the time traveler. After that we could take their money and buy up a bunch of old buildings in L.A. and a small town in Florida and then sue the crap out of anyone that said we were just a bunch of scam artists. Then we could get a bunch of partially illiterate movie stars to join our religion and act as our hucksters.
Wait, it's been done. Never mind. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Thank you for the best laugh I've had yet this this year.
All together now: PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT! - ewc80, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That is a good post Zaphod.
Personally if the whole Titor myth does turn out to be true I don't think that I would feel silly though. I'd be surprised, but ultimately I would feel that my original reasoning was sound when I decided to not believe it in the past. - whiteeagle131, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What's the point with this site?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2
"The gravitational field of a circulating light beam" and its effects on time.
PDF Document about it from the professor
http://www.physics.uconn.edu/~mallett/Mallett2003.pdf - ambiversive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think Titor was telling the truth.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4hmmm... its not in 2005... its later like 2014 or 2015.. (i forget which year)...
- fallingdamage, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2Only problem is that his story is air tight. The reason it keeps going on and people keep talking is because he cant be disproved.
and now look. CERN is about to throw the switch on the LHC. I guess if they succeed in making double-positive black holes, he was right. - macdude22, on 11/12/2007, -0/+2Real or not (I lean toward not) it's a damn entertaining story of how it played out.
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