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- ZaNkY, on 11/02/2007, -8/+355slap in the face
That's right.
I never visited OiNK, but I will definitely be stopping by BOiNK. You stop one, you encourage more visits to the next one that pops up.
Dugg. - xYike, on 11/02/2007, -12/+282NICE! Unfortunately, it will be public ... I liked the private commuity where it sort of forced the hand of the leachers and made people share as much and they took to some degree. Without that aspect of it, you turn into a leachfest where all of the wide-variety selection is not kept up. (IMHO)
- Phillyzero, on 10/29/2007, -5/+150True, public, this will NOT replace OiNK at all...you better all look towards O2 or something. BOiNK, will have a million transcodes (which may be great to you Demenoid people) and probably won't ban any users...for oink to work, it has to be private with hard institutionalized rules.
- 00000, on 11/01/2007, -6/+121The Oink system wont work if its public
- TimmyGUNZ, on 10/28/2007, -4/+100Better than nothing.
- KibibyteBrain, on 10/29/2007, -0/+86I think the idea is to replace OiNK in spirit more than in function. Sort of symbolically telling the MPAA/RIAA/etc that shutting down OiNK will have accomplished nothing.
- Xorp, on 10/28/2007, -9/+69I agree. This could be bad. Look at the comments on the piratebay, most of users are complete morans. such as "HOW TO I DO PLAY THIS DIVX MOVI KTHANXLOL"
Not to mention they like garbage quality 700MB dvd rips. Oink had some high standards most idiots couldn't handle. - L4WL3RS34L, on 11/04/2007, -4/+62A public tracker isn't a replacment to a private tracker. The seeding rules is what made OiNK so great, because it doesn't actually take an hour to download an album. This will just be another pirate bay that focuses on music instead of movies.
- xYike, on 10/28/2007, -1/+49Can you imagine trying to enforce OiNK rules in a public community where people can continue to sign up repeatedly after being kicked? Going to be tough.
- merdiesel, on 10/28/2007, -2/+49Nothing could replace OiNK besides the real thing.
- bindasj, on 10/28/2007, -3/+42This is great. The Pirate Bay is once again demonstrating that the power has shifted out of the hands of the record companies and into the hands of the people.
- inactive, on 10/28/2007, -7/+46Totol morans.
- Onwlyix, on 10/28/2007, -9/+48?
- indiefan, on 10/27/2007, -1/+38while i agree with other posters that it just won't be the same as a public tracker, you have to admit...Brokep is hilarious. BOiNK?
- Slash0, on 10/28/2007, -12/+45Nope. If you can't or won't seed to 1:1, don't use torrents.
- abatch, on 11/04/2007, -1/+34Scientific progress goes BOiNK.
- frazw, on 10/28/2007, -2/+34I worry a little that the pirate bay is over exposing itself. I wonder if they might be making big enough problems for the Swedish government through international pressure to consider some kind of action.
- greves, on 10/27/2007, -4/+33Oh how awful, a service provided by a few guys that lets you download pretty much anything you want in the world, for free, without registration and anonymously, and that even stands up to the raids when they come knocking on their door...
...AND THEY PUT ADS ON THEIR WEBSITE!? HOW DARE THEY!!!!
/***** off - themouth, on 10/28/2007, -6/+32Then buy a decent proxy for $10 and ssh tunnel through it, don't be a mooch.
- c0ldfusi0n, on 10/27/2007, -4/+30Good initiative, very honorable. Although there is a few things that make it less enjoyable.
1. OiNK always was a private tracker. It's been called a hangout for the file-sharing audiophile elite, and i tend to agree with that. BOiNK will likely be public, and it will come down to the same thing as downloading music from TPB or any other public trackers. The very essence of OiNK was an elite community, something TPB cannot offer unless the OiNK community moves to it, which is not likely to happen if the tracker is public.
2. If it's public, there will be no quality control. Something OiNK was very very strict on. Transcodes were not allowed and could get you banned. Anything under 192kbps was frowned upon. Unless BOiNK "hires" OiNK moderators or people like them, it won't be the same. And between you and I, moderating a public tracker? I don't think so.
3. It seems that everytime a popular tracker goes down, TPB brings it back up. It's very nice of them, but they should be cautious. Sure, they are in Sweden and US laws don't apply, but as much as i like them and their kind gestures, they're playing with fire. - Acglaphotis, on 10/28/2007, -2/+28You know everything will be lost once The Pirate Bay falls.
- Sapperlite, on 10/30/2007, -4/+29I am one of the "morons" who happens to like the quick 700mb movie downloads on TPB. Also, I would welcome an open replacement for OiNK produced by TPB. It's sad to see that the pirate community has started down the path of having upper class pirates and the lower class "moron" pirates who are not welcome to socialize or share with the upper class pirates.
- Magillicutti, on 10/27/2007, -0/+24http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/U/moran. ...
- chieferer, on 10/28/2007, -2/+25‽
- Cloudime, on 10/27/2007, -2/+25God bless The Pirate Bay, keeping internet piracy alive and well, may they be considered heroes throughout the Digg community.
- actorboy, on 10/28/2007, -1/+23Yup. It's not really a hydra if the only head is The Pirate Bay.
- Kasot, on 10/28/2007, -5/+24And the pirates marches on! Ah-hoy! :)
- MagicXB, on 10/27/2007, -5/+23This is why I love seeing so many torrent sites pop up: The music industry can't POSSIBLY weed out all of them.
Sorry RIAA, time to go back to the drawing board, and who knows, maybe you should make some music WORTH BUYING! - Disjunto, on 10/29/2007, -1/+19OiNK only worked because it was private, torrents die a lot quicker on pubs, so those hard to find albums that only 2 or 3 people downlaod a week, won't be so easy to obtain.... one of the main reason I used OiNK was for albums like this, the other reason was the high quality.
- kaytrio, on 10/27/2007, -5/+23Do what you want cauz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!!!!!!
- rome747, on 10/29/2007, -1/+17A mime.
- inactive, on 10/27/2007, -2/+18You guys are missing the point.
In the eyes of the general public—and those who would attack websites like OiNK—public and private mean nothing.
The Pirate Bay is making a statement, rather than another torrent site. - shagie, on 10/28/2007, -1/+17Glad to hear an OiNK-like system is in the works. Sad to hear that it will be public, and won't live up to the quality that made OiNK what it was. I suppose only time will tell.
- Jareth86, on 11/04/2007, -0/+15It's a Calvin and Hobbes reference.
- kingkilr, on 10/28/2007, -7/+22‽
- themouth, on 10/28/2007, -1/+16I'd like to think that I (and other oink users) seeded for the community. I had a HUGE ratio buffer (think, 100+ gigs) and I still seeded everything I downloaded. I'd like to think that the morons will still use the regular tpb and the bOink community will consist of folks like myself, who don't fear the *AA organizations because we're running peer guardian and a few proxies.
- actorboy, on 10/27/2007, -1/+15Interesting. Ernesto offers no sources and his content goes completely against brokep's statement of just 3 days ago. See: http://blog.brokep.com/2007/10/23/oinkcd-down/
- xYike, on 10/26/2007, -0/+14I guess when I think about it, it can be public but it is the "institutionalized rules" that Philly mentions above that are the most important. Otherwise it turns into other types of trackers like the one(s) mentioned. Not that TPB or Demonoid is a BAD thing, we just already have those and what is the point of having the same thing with a new name? Hopefully they (the bOiNK crew) will keep things a lot like they were. Nowhere does it say they are NOT going to, other than the public aspect. *crossing fingers*
- Elude107, on 10/28/2007, -0/+14It can't have an invite-only system if there are no current users. Even OiNK.me.uk used to be public, and once it had a user base, it was able to switch to invites. Hopefully this site lasts long enough for it to develop into a truly OiNKy community
- Elranzer, on 10/27/2007, -10/+23But the Pirate Bay, though? Get ready for 128kbps CBR albums that take over 4+ hours to download. Goes great with all those "quality" kVCDs they have. I'd rather have nothing.
- xYike, on 10/27/2007, -1/+14Agreed, and I'm certainly not complaining about the work that TPB and others are doing. When you say "better than nothing" I would simply ask is it "better than what we already have with Demonoid and TPB currently?" Dunno, only time will tell. No telling how or if rules will be enforced.
- mrjit, on 10/27/2007, -1/+13Oink downloads were ALWAYS ALWAYS ridiculously fast. My 20/10 FIOS was always saturated on Oink due to the ratio requirements. It was fantastic. It takes me an hour at least to download an album on Pirate Bay. No one seeds on publics.
- Tenbatsu404, on 10/27/2007, -2/+13Brokep is right, TPB should not revive OiNK. Our strength should not reside in one place. We have been successful thus far because of our maneuverability and our resilience after a defeat. Was must remain like a hydra and not stand toe to toe against the IFPI, RIAA, and the MPAA. If we pit our strength against theirs we will lose. We must keep our enemies on their toes by remaining maneuverable.
- Bonz2008, on 10/28/2007, -4/+15it will just be like their main site... you know the one where you download torrents at 9kb/s
- djh816, on 10/28/2007, -0/+10And that was one of the biggest incentives for people posting pre release albums. They could seed to get their ratio up for a torrent that only they had. I don't think it's going to be the same without a private seeding-induced community.
- LogicBomB, on 10/27/2007, -1/+11Question (real question btw): Why couldn't they make it open to the public but require registration - couldn't they follow ratios this way and ban the non-seeders?
I'm sure OiNK was the bees knees but getting an account was a bitch (at least I coulnd't get one - I knew no one who had one. I hang out with luddites). I have no problems with ratios as long as I get the chance to have a good one :/ - Kypt, on 10/28/2007, -1/+11I don't know all there is to know about torrents...all i know is that Leopard took 4 hrs to download on a private tracker that enforced said rules yet had less seeders than a torrent i had been trying to use from demonoid with way more seeds...I was getting 4kbps on demonoid/s vs 400kbps on the other one.
Also, I don't really consider demonoid to be private enough to be a "private" tracker. - 15charmaxwtf, on 10/27/2007, -0/+10It is impossible to steal music over the Internet. Does the artist wake up one day and a bunch of his possessions are missing!? What you are suggesting is akin to someone reading a book and getting arrested for stealing it because they have it in their freaking head! Music is a service, not a good, because it is not tangible.
- mattcoady, on 10/27/2007, -0/+10Oink is the only site I've ever hit 1.0 mbps transfer rate. I took it all for granted.
:( - schroeder, on 10/27/2007, -0/+10Buying CDs supports the record companies, going to shows and buying merch supports the artists. My brother's music was uploaded to OiNK and he thought it was great that people cared enough about it to share it. Plus he makes more money selling CDs at shows than in royalty checks. Sharing just brings more people out. On the OiNK comments people said how much they liked the live performances and that goes a long way. Bands today are doing things the wrong way. They make big budget records and spend a lot on advertising and distribution for quick success. They should be starting with a lower recording budget and building a fan base to come to shows and progressively make better (more expensive) recordings as they gain popularity. The quick success model that the major labels promote is counter productive to the artist and the industry as a whole.
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