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- manonfire285, on 07/07/2008, -4/+47I was actually there June 27, 2008. I went to both Auschwitz I and Auschwitz II-Birkenau. It was all really despressing. The 5-minute bathroom breaks, people deciding whether to use their "coffee" for drinking or washing up, the rooms full of suitcases, kitchen supplies, eyeglasses, and shoes.
Oh God, the shoes.
The amount displayed (about 44,000) was 0.0147% of all the shoes collected. Also, the gas chamber model showing how people were killed thinking they were taking showers, then burned to get rid of evidence.
A sad, sad time. - inactive, on 07/08/2008, -4/+42"God I wish we'd nuke these heebs."
http://www.digg.com/world_news/Israel_must_end_sie ...
-flogistan
"Hey, I love christians. It's the jews that cause all the problems"
http://www.digg.com/world_news/Syria_fires_on_Isra ...
-flogistan
"What a surprise, another jew who tells the story leaving out wtc 7. I'm surprised."
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Two questions. Why are you such an anti-semitic ***** and why hasn't digg banned you? - MrBabyMan, on 07/06/2008, -2/+35More pics here: http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/online/ssalbum ...
- ileftfark, on 07/07/2008, -9/+38I was expecting a German metal band.
- lanemik, on 07/07/2008, -2/+26It was the hair that got me. The huge pile of human hair. And the roll of fabric that the Germans made from that hair along with the Nazi uniform made from that fabric.
I don't have the words to discribe the horror of seeing that. Anyone who compares anyone else on digg or whatever to a Nazi hasn't been to Auschwitz. - inactive, on 07/07/2008, -2/+26I also just went to the Holocaust Museum- hands down the single most emotional experience of my life- I found out that my great-grandparents were killed by Nazis and in fact they were Jewish (big family secret kept from me- which sickens me)... More importantly and perhaps more disheartening was the fact that people were staring at me like I was a freak because I was crying- there is a definite chokehold on humanity at the moment- apathy is destroying our society little by little.
- lead2thehead, on 07/08/2008, -4/+22So they're singing one minute and gassing Jews the next? It takes a special kind of sicko to do that.
- inactive, on 07/06/2008, -0/+17This collection has some of the only known photos of Dr. Josef Mengele, "The Angel of Death" while he was at Aushwitz.
- ninesky01, on 07/06/2008, -8/+24absolutely terrifying... i can't think of anything else to do with myself at this point but to remember the people that had to endure this torture and to imagine how exactly this happened.
i'm just really stoked right now that that one guy ripped off the head of hitler in that wax museum!!! yes! YES!!! everyone that fought against hitler deserves a medal of the highest order... - Kardall, on 07/08/2008, -2/+16A lot of people nowadays don't have any connection to the past period. Let alone a tragedy that occurred such as Auschwitz...
People who say it was "an event of history" and never realize the scope of it's impact on the world today, need to be told that they probably have a relative that was kill there or survived to tell of events that unfolded. Seriously.
A lot of people don't have feelings anymore about the wars going on, because there's always a war going on. But what happens, is when people have some personal connection to a historical event such as WWI, WWII, Auschwitz, Desert Storm and whatever else, then it becomes personal and they understand.
Problem is, majority of the connections to those historical events, are passing away at such overwhelming rates, that people don't have enough time to understand what their relatives went through.
Ask your grand parents, great grand parents, what it was like growing up when they were around. Get them to describe how their days and nights went by. I am sure that you will get a sense of what it was like to be them back then, and hopefully it will open your eyes to your own world, and not take so much for granted.
Learn from your elders, so you can pass the wisdom through your own generations. - daschupa, on 07/08/2008, -0/+14The scary question is what would any of us have done if we were raised in that society. It's easy to hate these people, but once you actually consider the times and circumstances, it's just depressing and makes you appreciate that there were people brave enough to stand against it.
- samuelmcm, on 07/08/2008, -2/+15Can anybody explain to me why there are conspiracy theorists ranting about the holocaust? With such overwhelming evidence I cant even begin to understand why people would say such a thing!
- lonelily, on 07/08/2008, -1/+14I went in 2003 and it was terrible. I threw up in a bush. As soon as you walk in you just feel the evil there. No words can describe the feeling you get looking at the showers, or at the building where some of the prisoners went for experimentation. It was all so horrible.
To make matters worse some of the tourists there were less than respectful. Some were smiling while their pictures were taken. It was demented. - fpp2002, on 07/08/2008, -4/+16Actually, the Holocaust WAS an anomaly, because it was the first (and last) time in history that a complete mass production "factory" line system was set up - end to end - for the sole purpose of killing large quantities of people.
By the way, I'm not Jewish. - Nazuel, on 07/07/2008, -1/+13I would recommend a book called "The Nazi Doctors" to anyone interested in this. It is amazing how amidst the brutality and cold, calculating extermination in the camps bits of humanity would show through. I think we have skewed visions of what the camps were like because we only saw the aftermath, the photos and movies after the horrors had been committed. It is much more terrifying to find that evil is not monolithic and exotic, but banal and commonplace. Many of the doctors involved in this were people just like you and me, and that is what should scare us the most, the fact that any one of us when put in the proper position is quite capable of this. The book goes in depth how upstanding, educated pillars of the community could turn into depraved, callous, and uncaring when the social conditions are correct. These pictures are a good illustration of just how human evil is.
- caeser5786, on 07/08/2008, -1/+12do you realize how stupid your comment really is. because Pakistan is different from Palestine.
- Kikinou, on 07/08/2008, -0/+10http://www.netflix.com/WatchNowMovie/The_Nazis_A_W ...
Chronicles the rise of the Nazi party and how one thing led to another and before they knew it they were slaughtering jews with big smiles on their faces as a matter of routine. Quite astonishing, and scary as hell to think that given the right environment and group think around us, you or I could be the ones with the big smiles. - chrissku, on 07/08/2008, -4/+13If there is a hell I hope all of those bastards are "sunbathing" in it.
- flyinghigh, on 07/08/2008, -0/+10i logged in just to say that you're an *****.
- NelsonR, on 07/08/2008, -9/+20Yes, a person should have sympathy but how many times must we remember that abominable and horrific event without ALSO question and putting forth other similar acts. Pol Pot in Cambodia, remember the killing fields? How about all the Russians slaughtered by Stalin. How about the ongoing atrocities in Africa? How about hearing about the Catholic Church and it's inquisition. Just making a point. Are most people in journalism Jewish?
Humans history is replete with nasty acts and the Holocaust isn't an anomaly so let's be fair and unbiased in our reporting. - pintomp3, on 07/08/2008, -0/+10there are still people who deny the moon landing, evolution, and global warming. people tend to disregard facts when it conflicts with their ideology. the ideology behind holocaust denial is hate.
- adlep, on 07/08/2008, -0/+10Unfortunately the history has repeated itself many, many times over sin the WW2.
Lets be aware of the genocides that are still going on in the world.
Edit: I frequently have nightmares about this place. Maybe its because my great-grandfather's brother has died there?
He was one of the lucky ones, as his name and last name was "officially" recorded... - Tinu, on 07/07/2008, -0/+9There was a movie, I think Sophie's choice, where you see them go from the camp to this house with green grass and children playing in the yard. Not a surprise, but still horrifying.
- Dundasbro, on 07/08/2008, -0/+9Actually its human behaviour. This isn't some isolated event, studies done by scientists and psychologists following events like Auschwitz such as the Stanford Experiment and ones involving fake electrocution of subjects have shown that when ordered by an authority figure who gives an air of self-confidence one will likely commit atrocities, and when given absolute power over another being humans will become desensitised to the fact that the ones that they have power over deserve to be treated humanely. It sucks, but the majority of humans are shaped that way psychologically.
- geodebug, on 07/08/2008, -1/+10Its a fair point but there is much unique about the Holocaust, including that it was a modern, western civilization that setup this horror, not some backwater 3rd-world regime. It is a reminder that even in a so-called enlightened country this could still happen again.
Also, anti-semitism is still a barometer in Europe (worsens as the economy slows down) so it is important to never forget what happened there. - expatcatalyst, on 07/08/2008, -1/+10Long article, but worth the read. I once had a friend, who still had the tatooed number on his forearm from Auschwitz tell me something very important: " ...if we forget, then it can happen again. Never forget, my friend."
- TwoKill, on 07/08/2008, -3/+10Just reading the article gave me chills, and lighting a Christmas tree at a place where the exterminated 6 million Jews just seems perverse to me.
- Asianwaste, on 07/08/2008, -0/+8I remember in Maus, one of the stronger moments in that book was when Spiegelman, his wife, and his father go for a drive and pick up an African American who needed a ride because his car broke down. The father, a Holocaust survivor is sickened to have to share a ride with "one of them" and shows utter contempt and disdain. All of this despite everything he has gone through in life. It was a really sad but very true to human nature.
- AxmxZ, on 07/08/2008, -0/+8On some level, yes. There were certainly plenty of people who really did feel guilty.
- adlep, on 07/08/2008, -1/+10Are you one of those "Spelling Nazis"?
Oh wait... - inactive, on 07/08/2008, -0/+7I'd be much happier without people like you.
- WordsnCollision, on 07/06/2008, -1/+8Hell postphoned, one would hope...
- hmunkey, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7I would have dugg you up if you didn't have to bring modern American politics into a depressing set of Holocaust photos.
- TheNorinator, on 07/08/2008, -0/+7the shoes on display at the holocaust museum in DC got me too. and if i remember correctly, there's a room there thats like normal room dimensions, but 2 or 3 floors high, and the walls are covered with pictures of the people from the camps, their families, and the like. powerful stuff.
- sporg, on 07/08/2008, -1/+8I find it interesting that most people focus on the death camp only and ignore the fact that it was attached to the IG Farben industrial complex (the largest in the world at that time). The people held prisoner there were used for forced labor to produce goods for the war and also in medical experiments.
http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_ ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben - chillypacman, on 07/08/2008, -4/+11>The amount displayed (about 44,000) was 0.0147%
Please tell me that's a typo.
I'm going to call ***** on that, 0.0147%? Eh? You do realize how much 100% would be? I don't care how you're going to kill people it would take at least 50 years to kill THAT MANY in auschwitz had you been throwing them in meat grinders on a daily basis. - anotherjack, on 07/08/2008, -0/+6She has a point though. The paid staff was not really forced to work in Auschwitz at gunpoint. So, what were we expecting? Apparently, really nice blueberry fiestas and promotions and pretty christmas trees are just as appealing to evil people as to good people. Maybe some felt guilty, but what would they do to avoid that feeling? Maybe have parties, play games, sing, and chase pretty girls? Isn't that what regular people do when they are trying to feel better?
- YukosEyes, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7Actually, dehumanization is what makes it possible. The second you dehumanize someone, the second you put conditional value on a human being, you are one step closer to acting on it. It's because of the dehumanization of African Americans that we had slavery. Soldiers dehumanize those they kill. I even see dehumanization of Iraquis in the media and language. There is dehumanization all over these digg forums with regard to women and homosexuals too.
- caeser5786, on 07/08/2008, -3/+7when not committing genocide and other crimes against humanity, the Nazis were really just you average run of the mill guys.
ohh wait they're all in hell right now (whether you believe in hell or not, they're in hell) - rdmorley, on 07/08/2008, -1/+6I was there about 3 months ago and I agree, the shoes are what really did it. Also the rooms where experiments were carried out on children were pretty tough to take. As a side note though, I will say that, though Auschwitz still does have a sort of "feeling" to it, so much of it was lost to fires/deconstruction that it no longer has the authenticity of some of the other camps. Mauthausen in Austria and some other, out of the way death camps are preserved almost exactly as they were when in use. This point, however, is in no way meant to denigrate or deny the historical importance and the level of human sacrifice that happened at Auschwitz.
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -5/+9Buried, blocked, and reported.
- pintomp3, on 07/08/2008, -1/+6that's not a fair comparison. palestinians are not being rounded up and put into gas chambers. a more accurate description would be apartheid. calling it genocide takes away from the actual genocide that is happening in places like darfur.
- chillypacman, on 07/08/2008, -2/+7*no time to edit: I know we're all 'shocked and awed' by what happend to the people in the camps, but get a grip people, base your shock and awe in fact, 0.0147% of 44,000 shoes = 299200000 shoes in total.
So either the nazis tortured people by making them wear lots of shoes or that number is inaccurate, really inaccurate.
But you know, don't let that stop you, give it a hundred more years and this will be in the realm of mythology. Give it another 100 and Hitler will be a hero.
ah *sigh* history doomed to repeat itself.
(yes I done my maths: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client ... - YukosEyes, on 07/08/2008, -0/+5But it should be. People have heard of the term military industrial complex; less people understand what it means because it's somewhat conceptual. That the labor and death camp was in physical proximity to the industrial complex, and that they were two complementary parts of one system, is the physical manifestation of the concept military industrial complex. Fighting wars and participating in genocides in foreign countries, compounded with a media as we have it and American's who don't think about their role, makes it more difficult to visualize the military industrial complex at work.
To understand this is important so that we can't pretend that the holocaust occurred because of monstrous individuals, but rather because a structure made it practically inevitable. For further reading: Philip Zimbardo and the Stanford Prison Experiment - JoshuaLowe, on 07/08/2008, -1/+6Yes, guilt is generally expected of people who are exterminating millions.
- rootsm3, on 07/07/2008, -1/+6At least you have the balls to go there.
- geodebug, on 07/08/2008, -0/+5In the museum it was the train car that got me. Just the smell of the wood. I walked to a corner and imagine myself trapped in it with 100 other people smashing me into the corner. The heat, exhaustion, and terror. One of the best and most disturbing museums.
- meister94, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4We must never forget the Holocaust. If we don't continue passing the horrifying story down through generations, something similar may happen once again. For the sake of Humanity, it must live on.
- pintomp3, on 07/08/2008, -2/+6there are laws in many european countries than ban it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaus ...
holocaust denial is as stupid as moon landing denial, but freedom of speech is more important. you can't outlaw or ban ignorance and hate, doing so only feeds their suspicions. the best antidote is awareness and education. - blackjack75, on 07/08/2008, -1/+5Typical negationist *****. You focus on the details assuming that the people you're talking to have no means of verifying them.
There's no need for a lot of technology to prove the holocaust isn't a myth. It boils down to a simple question: where did all the jews go ? Hint: they weren't abducted by aliens. -
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