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- cquinnd, on 10/11/2007, -7/+140Are the parents of the 7-year old student involved going to file a countersuit based on the discrimanatory comments the teacher made over a work of fiction?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -9/+135Ah, religion.
- Conwaysb0718, on 10/11/2007, -8/+133You can sue for being crazy now?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -13/+135 I hope so.
It's better this way cause children won't be exposed to her delusional religious ranting.
- Tigrou, on 10/11/2007, -12/+101So I don't believe in a Christian God, can I sue the US Gvt for forcing me to handle their money with the word "God" on it? Or Canadian government for the national anthem?
I wonder if she celebrates Easter or Christmas? Those were "pagan" holidays taken by the Christian Church. Jesus, no joke, was actually born in the summer. - meshman, on 10/11/2007, -5/+76If she is able to demonstrate that witchcraft (making things disappear, turning objects into other objects, etc.) is real and she can demonstrate the negative effects of the books (kids blowing things up with magic wands etc.) then she wins. Otherwise she pays the school $100k for being a stupid bitch.
- gcnaddict, on 10/11/2007, -9/+70"It's unnecessary. When she loses, she'll have to pay the legal fees of the school board."
Good. We don't need a Jesus Camp in public schools. - Pseudorious, on 10/11/2007, -6/+60It's unnecessary. When she loses, she'll have to pay the legal fees of the school board.
- Conwaysb0718, on 10/11/2007, -9/+61Did you know Jesus was a Jew?
/sarcasm - Porkinsred6, on 10/11/2007, -9/+60You can sure for anything now
- kenvsryu, on 10/11/2007, -2/+51Lawyers will take on any case to line their pockets.
- ravnwolf, on 10/11/2007, -1/+50For one to be a teacher, one must be able to cover all subjects. You can't allow your religious beliefs to dictate what you will or won't teach. If you can't abide by that philosophy, then you shouldn't be a teacher.
- TalkingBanana, on 10/11/2007, -0/+48" LONDON, June 9 A British teaching assistant is suing an elementary school in London after being disciplined for refusing to listen to a child read a "Harry Potter" book."
Hell, shes not even a teacher. Shes a "teaching assistant." - dominic2, on 10/11/2007, -0/+45How does listening to anything 'compromise' your 'beliefs'?
- Easty, on 10/11/2007, -5/+49The whole Harry Potter witchcraft thing is sooo 5 years ago.
We should all move on to being hysterical about something else, like if that one out of The Wiggles is gay. - funkyjunk3, on 10/11/2007, -1/+37Better detailed article here: http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,,2098322,00.html
MUCH more detail there :) - GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -2/+36Have to agree. It's only 99% that give the rest a bad name.
- oxdeltaxo, on 10/11/2007, -8/+41Why is she even bothering, she should have just sucked it up in the first place and gotten on with the lesson. That way she wouldn't have lost her job and she'd be saving herself more trouble than the legal system is worth. Stupid bitch.
- Ryosen, on 10/11/2007, -2/+34The title description is wrong. She wasn't sacked, she quit.
Yes, she quit her job and now she is suing. - Twoodge, on 10/11/2007, -7/+39"I was put in the position that listening to the child reading this book would compromise my religious beliefs."
I've been put in the position in which listening to theists compromises my atheistic beliefs. *sues for $100,000* - KingBabi, on 10/11/2007, -2/+28@fhornplayer
Subtly slipping in anti-microsoft snippets is always clever! - chingy1788, on 10/11/2007, -3/+27its people like this who are hold back humanity
- Kypt, on 10/11/2007, -6/+29Didn't the late pope say "God bless Harry Potter"? I mean I understand these people don't think much of the Pope...but hell he's got the funny hat!
- Tigrou, on 10/11/2007, -1/+22Well pagan was in quotes for the simple reason that most people don't associate those holidays with their pagan roots. In Sinagpore, for example, Easter and Christas are the two official Christan holidays. In Sing, they are balanced the 3 other mainstream religions each get 2 holiday days of their own.
- brainwashed, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19Found one - she lost the case:
http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=MK938455F&news_headline=harry_potter_teacher_loses_tribunal_claim
"She claimed that the said bestselling tales of the boy wizard was strictly forbidden by the Bible. She also said author JK Rowling was a 'real witch' and hearing the seven-year-old girl reading out spells from the story would leave her cursed." - Azimuth1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17If you read the article you'll also see that this took place in England. We don't have states or principals.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19"Jesus was totally a wizard."
Jesus and Harry Potter have many things in common. Both male, both wizards, both fictional... - bob_the_alien, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18I know allot of Christians that read Harry Potter, and I'm a Christian myself and I own all 4 of the DVD's,
And on this one even I will point out, she's just being a Religious Nutjob, their is no merit in her refusing to listen to a child reading a book. Heck even if he was reading the Satanic Bible to her, I still don't see what her problem is, if someone reading something to you, makes you less of a Christian, then your the one with the problem, not where your located or the person reading it. - runic, on 10/11/2007, -4/+20When she loses... burn her at the stake!
- logicnazi, on 10/11/2007, -5/+20I've been put in the position that actually going to work and doing ***** comprimises my religious values. I expect to be paid for sitting on my ass at home.
If you want to believe stupid moronic ***** go ahead but don't expect other people to pay you to do it. God, why do religious people expect we should treat them any different than someone who believes in a flat earth or that Elvis is still alive. Sure, the government shouldn't be able to fire you for what you do at home but the second you refuse to carry out a normal demand from your boss you should be gone with no special treatment because you think some invisible dude told you to do it.
Don't know if the law is that reasonable in england tho. It isn't in the states. - infiniphonic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16Water into wine.
A fish and a loaf of bread into a feast.
Healing with a touch.
Jesus was totally a wizard. - lacronicus, on 10/11/2007, -11/+26that is not true. jesus as a person did exist, and roman records show him as being executed. the question was never whether he existed, but whether he was actually a god. even roman history books note the existence of jesus offhandedly, in reference to a man who, though a good man, did not worship the emperor as a god, and therefore was to be tortured, instead of killed. this corresponds with events in the bible, which in some places is also historical, even looking beyond it as a religious book. once again, the question is not whether jesus existed as a man, but whether he was truly a god or not.
if your going to criticize, get it right. not everything your atheist friends have told you is true. - lcaller, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13She lost the case in pretty quick time, whats more annoying is that they ( the school ) had trouble with this woman before on multiple issues and suspended her. Rather than sack her they decided to give her another chance and this is how she repaid them.
At least she is now liable for the costs for the schools defence . - EarlOfLade, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17Well, it's the same people who don't like gay marriage, probably because they think they will have to marry someone of their own sex if it became legal.
The mind of religious people is twisted and not easily understood, not even by themselves. - Easty, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14I wonder what her reaction would be if the 7-year-old pulled a copy of The God Delusion out of her book-bag?
- ArgusSmith, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14@Earl
You're a fool if you think you could actually argue that point and win. Bringing up God will undoubtedly cause a clamor among the jury because most people have some sort of religion believing in "God," and so would view your argument as arguing against their beliefs. They'd view you as their enemy, and your enemy (the teacher) as their friend, and so that'd horribly backfire.
The witchcraft idea, however, is much better, because not everyone believes in witchcraft, although some would confuse it with satan and think the book is satanic, possibly holding up some of the jury.
In any case, using "God" in any argument where you can be considered to be arguing AGAINST the existence of God-- not a good idea. - jojoyohan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12If you read the article you will see that she wasn't fired, she resigned.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12.... Ummm it is a book that actually gets kids to READ.
Kids Reading is a good thing i thought.
when i was in school everyone wanted to ride bikes or play nes, not read a 7 part book series.
Let go of the high horse and let the kids Enjoy reading. - noahhoward, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14"Yes, they are Pagan holiday's, however, they are also Christian holiday's, they were just chosen days to represent the days that these Christian events occurred, since they don't know the exact days. That way all the major religions were celebrating their holiday's on the same day. So really I don't see why this is even an issue. Most Christians do already know this fact."
Wow, that's naive. You think the holidays are all on the same day for convenience? There's a lot more to it than that. The holidays are on the same day because the early christian leaders cared a lot more about brining people undert their rule than they did about religious significane, they took the pagan religious holidays and sacred figures and mashed them into their religion so they could say "look, we're not all that different". - noahhoward, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14"marriage is founded in religion,"
No it is not. At least, not in religion as you know it. Marriage existed, for example, under celtic Brehon law well before Catholicism came to Ireland. FOr a long while you were actually married first under Brehon law (which allowed for a divorce if either partner failed to uphold their duties) then you were married under the church ceremony. Chrisitans need to learn, most of the things they credit themselves with have nothing to do with them. - bob_the_alien, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Well, I am religious, so I may not be the best person to comment on this, but However I think marriage is more of a legal agreement than anything anymore, and as a Christian, I see it that If I want to get married, isn't my spouse and God the only two ppl that need to have anything to do with it. A legal document that says I'm married is just that a legal document, it says nothing about why I got married. And Marriage really at it's true being is about loving someone and wanting to spend the rest of your life with that person.
Now atheists, agnostics, pagan's, Christians, etc... etc.., all have ppl that they love, so I see marriage as not a religious tradition, but as individual tradition, something personal between two ppl. And while I believe personally that God has something to do with it, whether I believe that or not, it still doesn't take away from the fact that marriage is mostly about not being alone. And whether you do it legally or not, well I still consider you married, if your spending your life with that one other person, regardless of what the government thinks.
Really I think, we should forget about the gay marriage thing all together, and just get rid of marriage being in the hands of the government period. it's not for the government to decide, it's for you to decide personally. - LosingTheFight, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Even as a devout Christian I find this woman to be ludicrous... what a bad name she gives us... I read (past tense) Harry Potter, does that make me evil or any less of a Christian?
- localzuk, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Yes, she quit - but in employment law it can be called 'constructive dismissal' if she was 'forced' out of her job by discrimination etc... Just so you know.
- skyfire1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Stay away from Harry Potter. The book is satanic. My brother read it and now he's flying around on a broom fighting dragons and torturing scorpions.
- Sithlrd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Good to see mind-numbing stupidity isn't limited to America. If she believes in curses, then she's practicing at least a little witchcraft, whether she's a church-goer or not.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9....a fictional book.
- Neiby, on 10/11/2007, -6/+15"He is not a myth, he did actually exist, now whether you believe he is the son of god, well that's your choice."
Actually, there is zero incontrovertible evidence that he existed, at least as the person we think of now. To the contrary, it is more likely that there were a couple of guys who existed at that time, one of which may have actually been crucified for something. Their stories were dramatically exaggerated over time and the myth grew as the stories spread from region to region. Keep in mind that the early Christians in different cities and towns had wildly differing views of their savior and his deeds. Their theology was not consistent and often directly at odds with each other. There was no consistent "christian" story until 4th century. - ATHEISTinHELL, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Shes right, Harry Potter is evil. What kind of book tells of talking snakes, magical beings and a mysterious garden?..........
- ZeroSeven, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10It's people like this that give reasonable Christians a bad name..
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