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- Dysarthria, on 12/11/2007, -22/+327Wait, whats the controversy here?
The Friday's national office publicly apologized to the woman, stated that the manager was wrong, and said they have told their managers never to do this again. They probably offered her free food too.
Non-issue, just one idiot who happens to work at a Fridays who didn't understand the law. As a former "flair-wearing" member of TGI Fridays when I was in college, take it from me - the people running those joints aren't that bright.
I will say one nice thing about TGI Fridays, they have excellent food quality and high kitchen standards. - mrcalicocat, on 12/11/2007, -6/+262Nope, employee was wrong - customer was right - the Federal Americans with Disabilities act allows for the dog to be present. Tossing out the dog was illegal.
- brianbb98, on 12/11/2007, -5/+208So no one got tazed?
- trp5023, on 12/11/2007, -2/+133Cheers to the mother for acting sensibly, instead of screaming for someone's head she wants the kid to be informed of WHY he made the mistake. It's nice to see some class in people these days. Also: hooray for dogs.
- RuffRidr, on 12/11/2007, -2/+100I can honestly tell you that I wouldn't have kicked out some disabled person's companion dog. You'd have to be pretty stupid not to realize that the person depended on the dog to get around. And who cares if the company fires you for not kicking the dog out. Do you really want to be working for a company like that anyway?
- hdar3415, on 12/11/2007, -3/+94Many disabled people depend on whatever help that is available to them. In this case it was a dog. I myself depend on a cane to walk. (And no I'm not an old man) I use a cane so I can be independent, she uses a dog so she can do the same. It really doesn't matter what help the people you are with offer. It is more a matter of pride.
- Shawn4168, on 12/11/2007, -9/+100In other news, two people got their orders mixed up at Bennigans. The customers pointed out the mistake, the issue was resolved, and a bunch of other people blew the whole thing out of proportion.
- netdroid9, on 12/11/2007, -1/+86Considering the fact it's illegal to kick a guide dog out of a restaurant, not only do I believe I would not have done the same thing, I also know that I wouldn't have been fired either. And if I was, I'd have sue their pants off.
- lordwow, on 12/11/2007, -3/+79I stopped frequenting TGIFridays when their (former) store in downtown Boston told my gf and I that it'd be a 10-15 minute wait, which wasn't bad for a Saturday night in the city. An hour later, I noticed that a lot of other groups were getting seated who came in after us, so I confronted the hostess about it. She replied that the larger groups tipped better, so they gave them preference over couples. She said this within earshot of about 4 other couples who were waiting, and all of us after a few seconds of shock, turned and walked out.
So I'm not particularly surprised by this. - evanfrey, on 12/11/2007, -1/+58do you own a brain?
- Alphateam, on 12/11/2007, -2/+47I agree, while it is stupid and wrong it was a simple mistake that caused no real harm. It is not like she was kicked out the Emergency Room with her arm being ripped off. There are dozens of other restaurants with old crap nailed to the wall that will gladly take their money. TGI Fridays admitted the mistake and educated the ones involved. They can't take back the mistake now, but they made sure it won't happen again.
- Anub1s, on 12/11/2007, -1/+43There's a big difference beteween someone's dog and someone's guide dog. People RELY on the guide dog to get around and do things for them, it IS illegal to kick them out. If it were a guide dog, I certainly would not even have thought about kicking them out. You are one ignorant person.
- becominglumberg, on 12/11/2007, -5/+45Call me crazy, but somehow I think that being blind is probably more of a disability and requires a little more sympathy than having an allergy.
- aussieNickuss, on 12/11/2007, -5/+45"Wait, whats the controversy here?"
A desperate attempt to get hits to a blog? - thecosmicpope, on 12/11/2007, -0/+30Indeed. I was surprised when I read that they did not ask for staff to be fired, only to be re-educated. A rare showing of class, something missing in most people today.
- jkhuggins, on 12/11/2007, -2/+32Because assistance animals are more than just "guide dogs". Part of the whole point is that you shouldn't have to ask other people for help.
I wear glasses. Should I have to take them off if I go into a restaurant with someone else, since someone else could read the menu for me?
For that matter, if I'm eating with a group of people, why should we all have individual silverware? After all, if one of us has a knife, why couldn't they just cut up my steak for me? I don't really need individual silverware, do I?
Seriously. Part of human dignity is having the ability to do things for yourself, and having control over what kind of help you prefer. - smacksaw, on 12/11/2007, -2/+31You can't be fired for complying with federal law. That's not grounds for termination. And if it's at-will work, you can sue them for wrongful termination and probably get your job back if you still wanted to work for idiots like that.
You remind me of the myriads of soldiers throughout history who have done unspeakable acts upon innocents in the name of "simply following orders"...you only have a duty to obey a LAWFUL order, and "lawful" not just being by the law, but RIGHT within the law.
Use your brain for critical thought instead of fear. It's frightened pussies like who are ruining the world. - Coven, on 12/11/2007, -7/+35their/there/they're
open a god damned dictionary. - chris9902, on 12/11/2007, -4/+32It wasn't a problem until she started swinging the dog around looking for a seat.
- GiggleStick, on 12/11/2007, -3/+31What?
- smacksaw, on 12/11/2007, -5/+32I hate people who bring their stupid little dogs into stores and ***** with them for that very reason, but in this case you have no clue what you are talking about. These dogs that are used to assist and guide people who need them - they pick them from breeds that are not (as) allergenic.
As far as fat people taking up all of the handicapped spaces, you're right. My poor old mother who can barely walk would beat these tubs if she should since she never gets a spot anymore. - Coffeedemon, on 12/11/2007, -2/+29Those sound lie the words of someone who has never had a job. Seems things like this and occupational health and safety courses would be mandatory at any major establishment - at least at any establishment bigger than a mom-and-pop on the corner.
- Djeserkare, on 12/11/2007, -8/+35I have to say I'm pretty impressed, guys. I clicked on this headline expecting to see people getting all up-in-arms about the issue. It seems that 75% or 80% of the Digg population spends the majority of their days looking for things to get unnecessarily upset about, but most of you seem to recognize that this one is REALLY not outrageous at all. Thanks for restoring a tiny bit of my faith in Diggers.
- Alphateam, on 12/11/2007, -1/+25Both can be said for either place. It depends on the day/time/store.
- RuffRidr, on 12/11/2007, -2/+24Both of them just take your food out of a bag and reheat it. I'd rather go to a restaraunt that actually prepares the food.
- jimjoebobbillyb, on 12/11/2007, -3/+24you sound like a TGIF company rep, trying to do damage control on Digg! who the hell thinks TGI Friday's food is "excellent quality"??? it's fried crap, served in a pool of ranch dressing. "TGI HeartClog" is more of an accurate name for the place......
- Delphium226, on 12/11/2007, -3/+22RTFA... 'and under the Americans with Disabilities Act, it’s perfectly legal for her to bring the dog into any restaurant.'. Case closed.
- objectcode, on 12/11/2007, -1/+19thats because you're an *****
- jacquesm, on 12/11/2007, -0/+15maybe they expect you to earn a half decent wage ? In many countries tips are optional, a way to appreciate someone going the extra mile, but in no way mandatory. They may also not realize that you literally depend on the tips to make ends meet.
- Error601, on 12/11/2007, -2/+17A restaurant has no ability to speak. It should read some guy making $8/hr wasn't well versed in Federal law and made a mistake.
- tribecom, on 12/11/2007, -4/+19Why the fvck would you bother replying to something you obviously don't have a clue about.
- KyleGoetz, on 12/11/2007, -3/+17That's weird. I worked as a waiter for a summer, and found (30something) couples to be the best tippers because the dude is trying to impress his date. Big parties are full of cheapskates unless it's a group of guys planning to get hammered. One of my coworkers got a $200 tip on a $100 ticket one time from a guy who drank too much.
The hostesses at the restaurant I worked at would always give the waiters they hated the immigrants, because immigrants tip horribly in most waiters' opinions. It's not a rip on immigrants; it's just that no one has taught them that a 10% tip for excellent service is not proper. - hexydes, on 12/11/2007, -3/+17DON'T TAZE MY DOG BRO!
- JonnyTrombone, on 12/11/2007, -0/+14I don't think that coltrane is saying that the law is wrong or anything, just pointing out that the great many Ron Paul fans on Digg would, by supporting libertarianism, support the decision of the TGI Friday's staff.
- rocketman71, on 12/11/2007, -1/+15She had every legal right to bring her dog.
Besides, service dogs are generally highly trained, and much more pleasant to be around than most children in restaurants. - knde, on 12/11/2007, -0/+13I find the US tipping system to be absolutely ridiculous. Several years ago, at a Ruby Tuesdays, my mother who was visiting from the UK forgot to leave a tip (mediocre service) and the waitress actually came back to the table and said “You didn’t leave a tip.” I’d forgot to explain that unlike the UK, tipping here seems to be a given (even with piss-poor service).
I can’t understand why the restaurants just don’t pay their employees at least minimum wage. I’d be more than glad to see the costs imbibed in menu prices. Would it really be that cost ineffective to raise prices a bit more, so they can pay their staff decent wages? - 5xSTUN, on 12/11/2007, -4/+17The ironic thing is that TGI Fridays serves food that's barely fit for canine consumption as it is.
- Cenobite, on 12/11/2007, -0/+13He's the roadie for Def Leppard.
- magstheaxe, on 12/11/2007, -6/+19If she was kicked out for being black, and the restaurant management publiclly apologized for their employee being an idiot and disciplined that employee accordingly, there would still be no controversy.
- MrIso, on 12/11/2007, -5/+18I park my car in handicap spaces, while handicapped people make handicapped faces.
- jekins, on 12/11/2007, -2/+15Not too outrageous all-in-all, but it's very appropriate it got public attention. Regardless of it being a simple mistake or understandable because of simple ignorance, staying strict about these things is the reason we can keep ignorance to a minimum in America. If you guys lived in certain other countries you would really appreciate why it's important to publicize these kind of occurrences. Political correctness has value you might not see, and a real tangible effect on actual freedoms.
- dartmanx, on 12/11/2007, -3/+15Okay, here's how we can help. We need to create some flair that says "I dig the ADA" for all TGI Fridays employees.
- Otto, on 12/11/2007, -0/+12Right-to-work doesn't give them the option to fire you for actually obeying Federal Law.
Kicking out the dog was ILLEGAL. An employer cannot fire you for refusing to do an illegal thing, even in a right-to-work state. - woohhaa, on 12/11/2007, -5/+17Boo ***** hooo hooo you have allergies. Get over it, at least you aren't disabled. You might have brain damage but you obviously don't know what its like for the truly disabled.
But you do have one thing right. Being fat and/or lazy shouldn't allow you disability. Every time I see someone park there fat ass in a handicapped spot to run in to the store to grab a case of snack pack I loose a little more faith in humanity. - ricksite, on 12/11/2007, -0/+12Delphium226, case reopened. You answered BassCadet's questioning of the law by stating that it is the law. This is my take. Service dogs have specialized trained and are temperament tested. Due to this, they are expected to act predictably and are less likely to cause problems. If the dog isn't pissing, crapping or licking, it isn't going to be contributing to unsanitary conditions. This should lessen the chance of the dog infringing on someone else's rights. Shedding is certainly a concern as people are allergic to dog hair. This is being address in some cases by breeding hybrid dogs that don't shed (labradoodle).
- Cenobite, on 12/11/2007, -2/+13Tell Cuddy I say hi.
- sancho, on 12/11/2007, -1/+12In general, yes. There are, however, protected classes of individuals, and you can't kick out based upon their membership of that class. The disabled are among that group, as are minorities.
That means that a business owner can't refuse service just because you are black, disabled, a woman, etc. - faskippy, on 12/11/2007, -0/+11It doesn't really make a damn whether anyone else was with her or not. The ADA is specific in it's design. People may get distracted, have to leave, go to the bathroom, become intoxicated, etc. But that dog is her insurance policy. See how easy that is?
- Mr.Gone, on 12/11/2007, -1/+11Ron't rase re ro! /Scooby
- blorc, on 12/11/2007, -2/+12Wouldn't it be more like: WRRONT WRRASE ME WRRO!!!!
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