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- hyderalamgir, on 05/06/2009, -1/+119According to the Internet...
- J353, on 05/06/2009, -2/+58As dumb as it was to not verify the source, it wasn't a bad quote.
- diemunkiesdie, on 05/06/2009, -16/+68For some reason, Wikipedia will get blamed, even though they kept removing the quote.
"Fitzgerald admits that he is not a sophisticated hacker or technology junkie. “I’m capable of using a computer but I’m not a whizz. Anyone can go in and edit anonymously,” he said."
That line made me do a double take, "sophisticated hacker or technology junkie"? So now anyone who edits Wikipedia is assumed to be a hacker until they claim otherwise?!?! Also, Fitzgerald, that's wasn't an experiment, that was just you being a douche. - Yazilliclick, on 05/07/2009, -0/+34Certainly makes sense as an expiriment to me. Maybe it wasn't for his course, maybe it was just to see it for himself but it certainly highlighted the world wide connection that so many use a single source and also that so many news sources don't check their own sources.
- Exhibitionist, on 05/06/2009, -5/+36One more reason not to take the old media seriously.
- MofS, on 08/13/2009, -0/+22The "new media" site had the quote removed "within minutes".
- wastelander, on 05/07/2009, -2/+23The thing is once the quote got published he could have used that as the source and then it would be gospel.
Kind of scary actually--newspapers need to be more cautious with verifying sources. - happytrees, on 05/07/2009, -0/+21did you just make that up? I'm suspicious of everything now... SOURCES!
- unbenamtl, on 05/07/2009, -0/+20Wikipedia is helpful but it's no reference source material.
- plunderphonics, on 05/07/2009, -2/+21What a crappy Wikipedia hoax I was hoping it would be one like Roy Orbison had up for years-
"Orbison has tried to commit suicide many times because he is blind, but always failed because he could not see what he was doing." - MikeOxbigg, on 05/07/2009, -1/+20The internet telling me not to trust the internet is too much of a ***** at 9am.
- inactive, on 05/07/2009, -0/+17This isn't a problem with Wikipedia, it's a problem with journalism. Of course, journalists being journalists, they'd rather push the blame onto something they don't understand, and therefore don't feel accountable for.
- divinediva, on 05/06/2009, -3/+18It's just a matter of setting the right trap.
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: : : : : : :¯’’~~~~~~’’’ : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : | : : : : : : : : : - regression, on 05/07/2009, -1/+15The internet is serious business.
- irreverend, on 05/07/2009, -2/+16A fun fact I learned when Jimmy Wales came to speak at my school: while Wikipedia has on average four errors per page, the Encyclopedia Britannica has three. Considering the whole open-source thing, that's pretty good for Wiki!
- danconia, on 05/07/2009, -0/+14Not that his quote caused much damage BUT this is what happens when journalists use a quote off Wikipedia that has no reference next to it. I wonder if there were any "Citation Needed".
I don't know if any of you guys edit stuff on Wikipedia but I highly recommend you register and give it a try (check out the discussion pages), it's very interesting. Plus it's fun knowing that you are a promoting/advocating truth through your work. Filtering out the ***** in this world. - charlietuna, on 05/07/2009, -0/+13It wasn't removed everywhere. So that's it then, the new truth. How Orwellian!
- yan89, on 05/07/2009, -1/+14And then there's stupid high school teachers telling us, that books and newspapers are more reliable then the interwebs – not when moron authors and journalists only copy from the internet anyways and don't bother checking annotations on Wikipedia. But hey they're all so smart because they're journalists, that makes them some kind of all-knowing creatures.
- Chrysalii, on 05/07/2009, -1/+13Even though the hoax was created on a "new media" site.
- daimposter, on 05/07/2009, -0/+12they have the internet on computers now?
- ukblacknight, on 05/07/2009, -0/+12It's always the first place I go, however I look at the references at the botttom and just use those.
- localzuk, on 05/07/2009, -0/+12Agreed, you shouldn't use *any* encyclopaedia as a source. But the advantage of Wikipedia is the ability to look at those parts that are well sourced, and follow the sources back.
- thegrantman, on 05/07/2009, -7/+17"Experiment" is code for "I really ***** up and need an excuse".
- cosmicr, on 05/07/2009, -0/+10Anyone who reads the MX newspaper in Melbourne (AUS) knows that they source just about everything from the internet. In fact, I've found countless times when their front page article (the paper comes out in the afternoon) is just a rehash of one of the top digg stories from the same day. Hi MX editors!
- darthfergie, on 05/07/2009, -0/+8look up
- Rudegar, on 05/07/2009, -1/+8what type of cheese would you recommend ?
- localzuk, on 05/07/2009, -2/+9Nah, there are policies against feedback loop sourcing on Wikipedia. These things happen, get spotted and then removed.
- urbanetruth, on 05/07/2009, -0/+6using wikipedia for a news story is really bad journalism. but it is clear that a lot of news writers do this.
- ldkronos, on 05/07/2009, -1/+7Well, in keeping with the trend of circular citations on Wikipedia that we've read about several times, he can now update the wiki entry and use those articles as his citation for the quote.
- Shazbuckle, on 05/07/2009, -0/+5Irishtimes on digg? cool :D
- inactive, on 05/07/2009, -0/+5Basic research skill: Check with multiple sources before using material. Even then, you may be wrong as was proven here; Media picked up the quote from Wikipedia and using the news outlet as a trusted source is now "trusted" as true, but it is wrong.
- gazboo, on 05/07/2009, -1/+5Still waiting for an Admiral Ackbar...
- NetPierre, on 05/07/2009, -0/+4Dutch Cinema-blog still has the Quote ( in Dutch ) at
http://beta.cinema.nl/artikelen/4729771/franse-fil ... - lukulius, on 05/07/2009, -1/+5I'm too thinking that he was just fooling around with Wikipedia ("Wow! I can change anything I want? Cool!"). Messing around with the event of someone's death and providing false information to Wikipedia is idiotic and irresponsible. Just as irresponsible as the journalists were who didn't make sure to get a second source and published bogus information.
- wastelander, on 05/07/2009, -0/+4re: localzuk
I'm glad to hear it! - imikedaman, on 05/07/2009, -0/+4Don't trust strangers.
- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3"But hey they're all so smart because they're journalists, that makes them some kind of all-knowing creatures."
Yep, just ask any journalist. - jumpenjack, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3you can trust me.
- diggeratwork, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3Next time check if the source exists before you quote from wikipedia. And also see if the source is valid.
- orthodoxDrew, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3Or just don't quote from Wikipedia, but yeah.
- ThreeDee912, on 05/07/2009, -1/+4[citation needed]
Don't see anything in the edit history going all the way back to 2002...
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roy_Orbi ... - pandaboy99, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3What if THIS story is sourced on another wikipedia entry made about a fake guy who wrote a fake quote about a man who just died
- plunderphonics, on 05/08/2009, -0/+3Made you look.
Never use digg as a source either. - Danktolker, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3Trolling for science
- goldenrhino, on 05/07/2009, -2/+5Your insinuation that traditional journalists are somehow less relevant or less skilled than their new media counterparts is sort of offensive. And dumb.
- AlienMushroom, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3I'm from the Internet.
- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3First rule of any 7th grade English class- you have to have more than 1 source for any information you put forth as fact in a research paper. All Journalists should know better.
- pixel34, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3It's pretty decent for Math stuff.
- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3Messing around with the event of someone's death and providing false information to Wikipedia is idiotic and irresponsible.
No, Journalists should know better than someone who registers at Wikipedia. It's not equal at all. -
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