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- cerbiedog, on 10/12/2007, -5/+284I think the plate means Mmmm Peaches are Wonderful.
- rstarr, on 10/12/2007, -13/+228@ heaven
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you. - Sphonix, on 10/12/2007, -12/+181MPEACHW: maybe an acronym?
Ministry of People, Each Asking Congress to Hinder War?
Oh wait... - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -26/+154"The department may refuse to issue or recall any message that does not meet standards of decency and good taste."
So, saying "Impeach Bush" is indecent or not in good taste, even though there's a political movement behind it, it's in the news, and it's an opinion?
Whelp boys, better tell everyone Free Speech is off when we're criticizing the government. Welcome to PSA, the Police States of America. - TheAkolyte, on 10/12/2007, -9/+99@tmajor
I thought the whole point of America is that the people are in charge. - XISUPERMANIX, on 10/12/2007, -10/+88People who bitch about a license plate, that they will see for maybe a minute or two really have no lives.
- smellmyballs, on 10/12/2007, -7/+70I prefer the license: JAIL 4W
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+55"People can vote, but that doesn't make them ultimately in charge."
So let me get this straight: we aren't in charge? Does that mean our vote doesn't matter, because ultimately we're not in charge anyways? We have a representative democracy for a reason, we put people in charge who we feel confident in. And with that same system, we should be able to systematically remove people from being in charge when we no longer feel confident in them, or when they break the law. This woman is expressing that opinion. What you're saying is she shouldn't be able to express it.
"Don't be so quick to jump on my comments."
Welcome to Digg. Say one thing people don't like and/or against the group dynamic and you'll find yourself in a gray box. - UMustBeNewHere, on 10/12/2007, -3/+48"Don't be so quick to jump on my comments."
You must be new here - pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -6/+42hopefully this will get more press and someone from each state will get it.
- TheWiseNoob, on 10/12/2007, -4/+39The more "politically correct" the United States makes things, the less free speech we have....
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+48
All she has to do is remove it, report it stolen, get a different plate, then put it on the front of her car. - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+36"My guess is that this is not a freedom of speech issue, if the State owns the plates."
We own the state. We hire people to work for us with our votes. It's a Freedom of Speech issue. - TheNik, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37Tax dollars don't pay for license plates, that damn fifty dollar fee for a customizable one, plus the yearly tag fee is what pays for the license plate.
- one321, on 10/12/2007, -5/+37But at least someone from South Dakota got the license plate. We're not all bad are we? You'll be happy to know I am one of the man who voted the Abortion Ban down.
I'm going to see what I can say or do to voice my support. I think we need to change the vanity plate laws around here if all it takes is one complaint. I can see if it said ***** or something like that, but MPEACHW... it can upset you because you support that idiot, but it's not offensive. - jjesusfreak01, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36If the state made a plate that had some impeach Bush design on it, that would be one thing, but this is ridiculous. Let her put her stupid message on her license plate. She will have to get rid of it in a couple years anyways.
- AceTracer, on 10/12/2007, -9/+39South Park references are usually only funny when they're on South Park. The same goes for The Simpsons, Family Guy, Chapelle's Show, and every other bit of pop culture you get your unoriginal quotes from.
- pernicat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24So, if South Dakota get a single complaint about a vanity plate they have to recall it. [sarcasm] Next time I get cut off by "LADYBUG" I might just find that plate offensive and file a complaint about it.[/sarcasm]
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+29"Wow, the state wants to recall a license plate and it's therefore a police state?"
Wow, it's staring you right in the ***** face and you see nothing wrong with them taking away someone's plate that isn't remotely inappropriate.
How ***** stupid do you have to be to not see this *****, seriously? - DrinkingNyquil, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Their tax dollars? People don't pay license and registration fees in South Dakota?
Edit: Thenik you bastard. - omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20"People can vote, but that doesn't make them ultimately in charge"
Is this what they're teaching in government classes these days? No wonder we're screwed. Do some reading up on Locke and Hobbes - social contract theory. And even if you're not into philosophy, I'm curious who you think pays for those license plates. I won't go so far as to say that the recall of the plate makes South Dakota a police state, but it's pretty darn close. At the very least it's censorship of a political message, the very speech the founders sought to protect with the First Amendment. - Smeed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18I see how it is. If you dont agree with it, its automatically offensive. Nobody has the right not to be offended.
- Gregd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19wow psitech, if a Prius tells you all you need to know about this person, then please tell us what you drive so we can get to judging you....
- smokeymiles, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20@jesusfreak - That's what I thought too - like all of the state's plates said "Impeach Bush"
@keyboardduder & gemini - anagrams rule. Also House.
The plate is not indecent nor is it in poor taste. According to the state's own rules, they have no reason to pull this plate. Their guidelines do not say "or is a political statement with which we disagree". The people saying they can do what they want because the plates belong to the state are correct, but according to the DMV's posted rules about vanity plates, they have no cause to recall them. - Smarterdanu, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18On her PRIUS too! That's some kind of Republican hate multiplier...
- Skerdog, on 10/12/2007, -12/+25Here's the thing. I'm a Republican. I agree with Dubya on alot of things and I don't agree with Dubya on alot of things, but NONE of the things he has done (agree or disagree) are impeachable offenses, in my book.
This is censorship. If someone wants to advocate impeaching him, that's their right. This is America. I don't agree with their sentiment, but I think they should have the right to their opinion and should be able to keep the plate. - DoctaStooge, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16@ tmajor
"I was right... from the South Dakota custom plates application, it says the following.
"The department may refuse to issue or recall any message that does not meet standards of decency and good taste." "
If the license plate really "did not meet standards of decency and good taste", why was it even issued in the first place? Someone had to approve the plate, so there should be no excuse for the message accidentally getting through any checks. - amoirae, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13She paid extra for the vanity plates.
So it's not totally at the state's discretion.
I think in this case she should sue, not for money, but for the right to retain the plates. - SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Normally I try to be reasonable when some form of speech gets limited. But the First Amendment stops having a purpose if you restrict it to the point where it does not exist.
- EdgarVerona, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11That's the thing I don't get here. I mean, if it said something like "*****" or "EATDICK" then it's indecent by their standard and they could remove it.
I wonder if they'd have a problem with "DEMSSUK" or something like that... I mean, is it that the person/people who make these decisions at the DMV are pro-Bush, or do they consider any political message to be "inappropriate"? - nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14ok, the *government* doesn't have to give you a piece of property that criticizes them. They have to let you criticize them, but they don't have to assist you. It'd be like the DMV putting a sign out front that says "The DMV sucks." It's true, but it doesn't mean they should do it.
- AceTracer, on 10/12/2007, -10/+19Not surprising this happened in South Dakota. They should go back to trying to ban abortion.
- FlaG8r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10C'mon now, it's his Constitutional right to make an ass of himself over and over again.
- glitch47, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11
how is lamely quoting South Park calling "libs" on "their *****"? - rollem, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I had some vanity plates denied because they had religious connotations, they were to say NORSGOD. I wouldn't have cared too much, except I get a bit peeved every time I see JCLUVSU, LOVGD, GDLVSU, or anything similar.
- voyetra8, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Bordering on treason?
Hint: You are a screeching ***** nutbag. - StormTrooperVII, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11they're probably all taken. even MP34CHW and other such combinations
- fishpen0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9tmajor, You must be retarded to not realize that through taxes and other things we PAID for those plates and what is written on them. in fact, in most states theres a fee to get a license plate, and then an EXTRA fee to get a custom plate. So we technically do own the plates and what is written on them, so can be considered a form of censorship.
- Bossy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11You know what's horrible about America? We read these kind of stories everyday but we do nothing to influence the people we have elected.
"Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." JFK said that in 1961. But in reality, this applies to the current Americans. - timtimes, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15I have the Mississippi IMPEACH tag. Got it last week!
Impeach the whole bunch of them for BLOWING THE JOB.
Cheney forged the Niger Docs according to Ray McGovern (former CIA)
http://thetimtimes.com/?p=32
Enjoy. - ElwoodHerring, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7“It’s kind of sad to me,” she said. “For one person to be able to say they’re offended because it’s different from their political beliefs seems really arbitrary. And I don’t think the law is very clear about what ‘offensive’ means.”
That's because the law can never clarify what "offensive" means. If I've said this once, I've said it a hundred times. ANYONE can claim to be offended by ANYTHING. That doesn't give anyone the right to ban something just because they feel personally "offended". I could claim to be offended by traffic lights, or yellow socks - anything at all. Here in England we have had muslims going totally over the top, frothing at the mouth over mere cartoons that weren't even published here. There is far too much of this "cry offence and get attention" nowadays, and it's time it was stopped. Offend me personally, and that's a different matter - it's called slander (or libel if it's in print). Anything else is mere opinion and should never be legislated against as it comes under free speech.
Well that's my tuppence worth. If I've offended anyone - tough! - x987, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9she should tape it to the inside rear window of her prius
- slimnickyy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Leave it to a fascist 'republican' to whine like an insecure little girl over someone exercising their constitutional right to free speech. These people aren't true republicans, who respect the constitution, rather they're insecure cry babies that want to turn America into a nanny state.
- pixelate, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15from the article: 'Moriah is free to exercise her free-speech rights in ways that don’t involve state property or implied state sanction of a given message, [the DMV director] said.'
Maybe I'm crazy, but this sounds completely reasonable to me.
I'm sure whoever complained about it is a ornery old bastard with questionable political views, but if he or she didn't want their tax dollars going towards an "impeach Bush" license plate, how is that any different from me complaining about prayer in schools? Pray outside the school if you must, and get a bumper sticker. - ffejrey, on 10/12/2007, -10/+16I'm not in expert in politics but...violating the constitution be a impeachable offense.
- TheAkolyte, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7That'll teach you to have freedom of religion!
- bsmang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"We are at war, and everyone is required to support our leader at all cost."
Um... No. - gpd209, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@ tmajor: "My guess is that this is not a freedom of speech issue, if the State owns the plates. If that is the case, they can recall whatever they wish."
Please, for heaven's sake, brush up a little on the constitution. ANY action of the government (federal and state) that impinges on the speech of citizens implicates the 1st Amendment and is fundamentally a freedom of speech issue. - Gregd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@psitech
If by "libs" you mean "not prick-like" then I'm certainly glad that "we" outweigh you 20 to 1. - EdgarVerona, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Indeed, and I've actually seen something resembling "GUNLVR" on a car's license plate. thought never occurred to me to complain about it... because it's that guy's goddamn license plate. I'm not a gun lover by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm not going to be the pompous ass that whines to the DMV because I don't agree with the message on his stuff. In fact, I'm glad he had it on there.
He can express his opinion on his car, and that's great. -
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