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- sobriquet, on 10/12/2007, -7/+35This goes beyond the safety of others and is just trying to regulate a lifestyle. They act like cigarettes cloud up a city block. In our university smoking is banned within 20 feet of doors and windows, which i completely understand. But when no one is within 40 feet of you and you still can't smoke, what's the point of that?
- chocobomog, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30This ban won't change anything. There are a lot of substances that are banned (or illegal) that run rampant on college campuses. I went to a university that banned all alcohol on campus. Did people still drink on campus? Yes. Were there still giant, drunken frat parties? Yes. Did students drink it in front of a campus cop? Only the stupid ones (students and/or cops).
Banning a substance/act on campus is a great way to cause more students to do that substance/act in order to rebel and "stick it to the man". - nevesis, on 10/12/2007, -12/+35Good idea! Ban smoking at the stadium! Ticket sales will skyrocket! (sarcasm)
Seriously, I fully understand banning smoking right by the doors into buildings. That could be problematic.
I fully understand banning smoking in the hospital.
But -- the entire campus? Do these people realize how big the campus is? Smokers would literally have to walk up to 15 minutes in some cases just to be off campus grounds to smoke.
One last thing: that assistant dean of dentistry is a real asshat. The guy commonly tells papers he's "an assistant dean at the university of iowa hospitals" presumably to obscure his dentistry background in hopes that people will assume he has a background in pulmonology and take him more seriously. - bfaulk04, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21My college has been smoke-free for 6 months now...
http://www.iupui.edu/outreach/planning/checklist/smoking.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21It won't stop people from smoking and will just create another level of criminality.
- DiggWhoreness, on 10/12/2007, -7/+22"Smoking is healthier than Fascism."
- Jo9100, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18smoking is banned from all public places from quebec, including universities. and were not the firsts
- badfrog, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18I hope they ban cars from the universities... Take a few puffs from an exaust pipe and see what happens. Good thing all the parking ramps will be smoke free, that fresh healthy air will keep everyone cancer free.
- h4rdcor3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14The University of Iowa campus isn't in one big giant block like a lot of campuses. It is split up in the city with the hospital being several miles away from the majority of the rest of the campus. So it isn't as bad as you think.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10You have to be kidding if you don't see the difference. If someone is drinking in the room next to mine, I cannot tell the difference. If someone is smoking in the room down the hall from mine, I am bothered by it. Not just possible health side effects. But I am bothered by the disgusting smell.
- jorazzle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9IUPUI is a public school (Indiana U Purdue U Indianapolis). I go to Indiana University Bloomington, the flagship of IUPUI. I'm on student government here and theres a major bill up right now from the President to ban smoking campus wide. Currently, you can't smoke within 30 feet of any doors or windows.
- tewas, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15Come on it's just one freedom this time take away in the name of freedom. /sarcasm
Don't get me wrong, i don't like when people smoke in closed rooms or next to door, but in the middle of nowhere, come on, banning that it's simply silly.
Also i think driving produces a lot carbon monoxide, so do you mind stop driving on campus as well, it damages my health. - masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It's not the first. IUPUI enacted this last year. And even IUPUI only claims to be, "one of the first."
http://www.iupui.edu/~nosmoke/
EDIT: bfaulk04 below me beat me to it (4 hours ago). Apparently I'm blind. - truspector, on 10/12/2007, -10/+17I hope refined sugar, grease, candy, and soda get banned too.
/sarcasm - ts8lemonade, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11This is retarded. If it was a private university and the private owners decided that, then that's their decision to make because it is their property. But, when it's a public campus, then that's just taking away people's freedoms. This is no longer about health concern, this is about trying to enforce rules and regulations to take away everyone's freedoms.
- Ninjab3ar, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12I think that universities should create designated smoking zones. That way, the smokers can smoke, and the rest of the students don't have to be bombarded with cigarette smoke right after leaving class
- benijuana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4SF State is already 95% smoke free, although not entirely enforced. They have little smoking sections where it's permitted, but when I visit friends there you can easily get away with just walking around with a lit cigarette. Its only the litter from the butts that they really care about.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12This goes to far. I don't smoke but i would feel violated if i can't even smoke outside anymore without distracting anybody. What is the benefit of it?
- gossipninja, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I like that they say they should ban smoking for health concerns, then they make smokers walk 15 minutes, (in freezing temps in winter months) so their already weaken lungs can more easily develop bronchitus or some other such problem.
I am fine with saying "no smoking by doors, walkways, inside" but to ban it outright is plain retarded, people are gonna smoke, just like on dry campuses people drink. I don't care if someone wants to get drunk and be stupid so long as they don't hurt anyone else, same goes for smoking. I have friends with ridiculously bad asthma, so when we hang out, I do not smoke when we are in vehicles or other tightly closed spaces, but when we are outside, they don't care cuz it doesn't bother them and if it did (such as smoke wafting toward them) they will either move or ask me to move.
I can understand people not wanting to be near smoke but ban all smoking is stupid and unrealistic. I would not go to a univ. that i could not smoke OUTSIDE. I bet the Deans car spits out more smoke in one day then all my cigarettes for a year combined.
Whats next, I don't wanna hear you talk so should I be allowed to ban you from talking by the doors/windows/etc. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Smoking has been banned in public places here in New Brunswick, Canada for at least a couple years. It is a great relief that I can now go to a restaurant or other public places of that nature and not choke on the smoked filled air. The University I am attending next year has a ban on smoking in the buildings and 10 meters from each. At my High School smoking is banned INSIGHT of the school. If you are caught, 5 day suspension.
- cuttensteele, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Actually...Acadia University in Wolfville, Nova Scotia, is completely smoke free as well. That was as of September 2006. (www.acadiau.ca)
- KingOneEye, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14I'm all for respecting the rights of non-smokers to not be exposed to second-hand smoke. I completely support bans on smoking inside restaurants, dorms, etc. However, there needs to be some respect for the rights of smokers. At every college campus I know of, smokers are already relegated to smoking outdoors, which keeps the exposure of non-smokers to a minimum, but to kick them off campus completely seems to be too far. Remember, smokers have the same right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
- brian1127, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"Smokers often feel it in their gut when they crave a cigarette. Now neuroscientists are offering a novel explanation that points to something between the ears: a deep-seated part of the brain known as the insula.
An unusual study of people with brain damage, caused in most cases by a stroke, suggests the compulsion to light up might be driven by the same little-studied brain region that helps us make sense of hunger pangs, nervous twitches and all sorts of visceral body signals.
The insula, also known as the insular cortex, is found on either side of the head, nestled beneath the more familiar wrinkles of the outer neocortex. It previously has been linked to a wide array of functions, including emotion, pain, speech planning and movement. But it hasn't been prominently cited before as a center of addiction circuits.
Beginning smokers initially might derive pleasure from tobacco, but longtime smokers who are trying to quit often say it's not the longing for pleasure that keeps the habit going. Instead, a cigarette can seem the only way to satisfy a biological need to feel "normal."
Neuroscientist Darwin Berg, a biology professor at UC San Diego, said the findings shift the focus of addiction research away from the brain's reward pathways, opening a new way of thinking about brain function as it relates to addiction."
Source: San Francisco Chronicle
To read the full article: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/26/MNGMHNPK651.DTL - GrimRage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@r81984:
I sure wouldn't want any smoker bitches mouth touching me anywhere. I could care less if she's the greatest at giving head EVER. Keep away and take your ***** smoke stench far, far away. - IMA_Sellout, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Smoking has been outlawed in public places in many Canadian municipalities for quite some time. In fact, some provinces are forcing all business owners to ban smoking indoors. I'm all for it. Cigarette smoke contains Hydrogen Cyanide and I just don't want to breathe that stuff in.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5No, it is PROTECTING the freedoms of non-smokers to walk around campus without breathing even one whiff if polluted air just because you are a weak piece of *****.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3FYI, unless you have some uncanny ability to not shed skin cells or secrete body odors like every other human being, your clothes still stink. They just don't stink to your nose because you are immune to your own odor. Congrats, you are dirtier than smokers. At least I wash my clothes after I wear 'em.
- WorfoSAUR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Brigham Young University has been smoke-free since it's inception in 1875 In fact, every college in the state of Utah has been smoke-free since Utah has been a state.
- skyfire1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@milambyr
You're funny. - benijuana, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4don't know why you were dug down (atbnet missed the point entirely). Its very true. I smoke a ton. Ever since I was a kid, I've had killer OCD and lots of little tics that were always very strange in public, even though I compulsively HAD to do them (David Sedaris has a funny story in one of his books about this that I can almost fully relate to, like a gay version of my childhood).
Anyway, I picked up smoking at age 15. It satisfies the compulsiveness of the tics, yet its way more socially acceptable to light up in public than to roll your neck around 6 times and blink like a strobe light. Now I'm 20, I haven't acted (blatantly) abnormal since my early teens. I was smoking half a pack a day for a year before I ever became addicted to the nicotine.
that article speaks the truth - AlfaWolph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's also about rising healthcare costs. It's a major cause of cardiovascular diseases... unless, you actually think it's healthy.
- dwb325, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Land of the smoke-free doesn't have the same ring to it.
- sgeltoob, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7They brought it on them selfs. First it was ban at the hospital, some the scumbags come over to the fieldhouse (and university workout building) and started smoking at the entrances. It's too bad a few of them didn't get killed. I have zero sympathy after that. Now they huddle around walkways just off hospital grounds. Places everyone has to walk. If you would have had since to stand out by a tree or something, away from people it might not have come to this. There is a ban starting in I think April for the "health campus" as there calling it. I think it includes the Dental, Medical, Nursing and some science research buildings. I'm not sure how it will be enforced. Maybe mace or a water cannon?
- uberdesigner, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I went to school at Iowa...students can just go to the Deadwood.
- libertao, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Well the title just says it "may" be the first, but it won't be. ;-)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6They are not making smokers walk 15 minutes. Smokers weak minds make them do it. No one FORCES smokers to smoke.
Lots of people are forced to go long stretches without smoking. Many hospitals now prohibit their staff from smoking at all during the day. No going outside or anything because patients don't want to smell it on their clothes or whatever.
If you are too weak to go a few hours without it, then that is your problem. - candle.stick, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5All I have to say is BYU... Provo UT.
- @nival, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3GainesvilleStateCollege (North Georgia) has been smoke free for about a year now and most people seem to be ok with it, however you still see people smoking outside, I don't think that is going to stop any time soon, but the whole "smoke free campus" thing helped because they used to have smoking areas and they looked nasty and were pretty stinky (quite annoying since they were near some entrances). Now it is rare to see cigarette buds laying around and people go to their cars to smoke many times. As for some asthmatic people in here they are happy and for the smokers they don't seem to be pissing about it, even faculty are ok with smoking in their cars.
some good things came out of it, what else can I say. - icon7, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7what is the point in smoking cigarettes? can someone please tell me?
- bobbknight, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4So!! Where are we to smoke our weed?
- gossipninja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I misspoke, some univ. are saying no smoking outside or only in certain places, I was going on my area school which you can smoke outside.
- Tweekster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3so you simply ignore this rule..
it isnt a big deal.
basically the smokers will respect most rules until a school goes too far, then we simply ignore them and tell the rent cops to go kill themselves (since they cant do anything anyways)
I respect the rules and distances and stuff, until they make it so unfeasible (because they are trying to be punative) that i just get fed up and totally ignore them.
make things reasonable 99% of people will follow it, make them unreasonable, and we will simply ignore the rules (without repurcussion) - iamscrewed2007, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Good, screw the smokers, they are killing others. I don't give a crap if they have to walk 20 minutes 30 minutes or an hour, they are addicted zombies and need the exercise.
- eetraveller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah definitely not the first. My former campus - Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS (http://www.dal.ca) - has been smoke free since 2004. That being said, it has been very poorly enforced. They felt so bad about giving the fines that they tried some positive reinforcement and started handing out candy to students who were found smoking just off campus. How well do you think that worked?
- r81984, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Come to Purdue and show me the 99% of the people who follow the 30 foot building rule. 99% of the smokers on campus break this rule. I think it is reasonable, but smokers obviously do not because they do not follow it then by your logic.
So if 30 feet is not reasonable what is? - Niallgriff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1oh, suck it.
- Ychro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Being a non smoker I think its annoying to walk down corridors and have to inhale the smoke of others. I went to a community college and they had smoking areas, which is a great idea however it doesnt fix the problem. Many times the only easy way to a class was straight through one of the smoking areas. At my current university which is private there is a no smoking, no drinking rule, which in my opinion is great and there is one area in the middle of campus that is not technically owned by the school and thats where all the smokers go. I understand it can be a pain in the butt however we are not choosing to inhale smoke but the smokers choose to smoke and if you have to walk out of your way to do it then deal. Since when do I have to go the long way to class to protect my lungs? I cant ever remember having a fresh air break at work, but was given the opportunity to destroy my life and go light up a cigarette. Digg me down if you want but I love no smoking rules. Here in Florida you cant smoke in any restaurant, its great!
- eleraama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There's already no smoking allowed inside buildings or within 25' of a door (the latter is a new policy this year). It seems like most of what people are complaining about is indoor smoking-- which I agree is gross. But as a student of the U of I, there really isn't a smoking "problem"-- a few people do it, always outside, usually by themselves, no noxious gas clouds or anything.
Full disclosure: I do not routinely smoke (and definitely am not addicted) but have done it before on campus. Ooh, somebody shoot me.
@toodamfast: the Ped Mall isn't University property, and so couldn't be enforced. But I wonder about the Old Capitol Mall, with the new "Old Capitol Center" or whatever they're calling it...? - bariswheel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I guess these people don't know their history.
Remember Prohibition?
People will do what they want. You put barriers, people will do it more, out of spite. How do I explain this? Look at the deaths caused by alcohol in europe vs. the US. Why much higher over here at the US you ask? Well, the age to drink is 21, most other countries the average age to drink is 16.
In the US, you can fight for your country at age 18, but you can't have a beer with your soldiers troops after a long day. Should I be the first one to call, WTF? - ArnoldTPants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes it is authoritarian. They aren't doing it to stop pollution. If they were they would have to ban cars first because they pollute infinitely more than smoking. And it isn't about health because someone smoking outside doesn't affect the health of anyone else in any way (Studies have shown that even indoor smoking doesn't affect the health of others. The EPA had to revise their study to find any significance, and even after lowering the confidence interval the risk factor they found wasn't enough for them to do anything about it or for it to be printed in any medical journals). They are doing it because they are intolerant of smokers and want to get rid of them. It is authoritarian.
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