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- Kinneas12, on 08/17/2008, -2/+189The cup is clearly blue, not green.
- jtscira, on 08/16/2008, -15/+184I hate ALL things Walmart. But in their defense its just stating a fact.
- thestranger, on 08/17/2008, -1/+120I think more items need to state random facts about the product itself.
"This can of cream corn is contains 37.2% liquid."
I would buy that cream corn over the non informative cream corn. - Ymeg, on 08/17/2008, -15/+94The Consumerist will bitch about anything.
They never said they the cup was eco-frieldly. All they said was that the cup weighs less, which it does. The fact that people pull "Oh, they are trying to trick us!" out of it is telling. - jotate, on 08/17/2008, -3/+76My dad works for Wal Mart as a truck driver. That's Wal-Mart *and* global warming. Digg me down, woooo!
- insomniac8400, on 08/17/2008, -13/+74I think they make a good point. A "green" cup is heavier and therefore wastes more fuel to ship. That means this cup most likely is more "green" than a paper or plastic cup as long as we are still using gas to fuel cars. It really just points out why "green" labels are full of crap.
- inactive, on 08/16/2008, -5/+61after eating all those samples in Sam's Club, you may appreciate your cup being lighter!
- bob3006, on 08/17/2008, -5/+57and about 70% less than a similar sized asbestos cup
- GoKings, on 08/17/2008, -0/+41Does his truck whistle go "WHOO WHOO?!"
- GoKings, on 08/17/2008, -0/+33Something about "non-informative cream corn" made me laugh.
- OCSmoke, on 08/17/2008, -11/+42With no attempt to mislead?
Let's see, we'll favorably compare our cheap, non-biodegradable cups with the more ecofriendly paper cups. What can we say that sounds like a benefit but is really just an unrelated fact?
It's meant to make some people believe that these cups were chosen for environmental reasons, when in fact they were chosen for other reasons. That is misleading IMO. - GregFD3S, on 08/17/2008, -0/+24The text is green, so it must be good for the environment.
- jotate, on 08/17/2008, -3/+26I have trouble getting angry at individuals who knowingly mislead stupid people. It's so easy and there are so many of them. Wal-Mart is a champion of that.
If people weren't so stupid, it wouldn't be a problem. - ferrariman60, on 08/17/2008, -2/+24Are you being sarcastic? Or are you being serious, and forgetting that this cup will still exist in 900 ***** years since it doesn't break down?
- Ymeg, on 08/17/2008, -16/+36They never implied it was eco friendly. They are just posting a fact about their cup.
- inactive, on 08/17/2008, -1/+20"This can of Coca-Cola contains 75% less poison than a similar sized can of Raid."
- jdh24, on 08/17/2008, -6/+25I don't see how they're claiming it's "green" or 'environmentally friendly' by saying it weighs less. If it had said "WE'RE GOING GREEN" and then said the cup weighed less, that would be misleading, but this isn't. Somebody has too much time on their hands and a little too much hate for the company that employs the most people in the US
- FelixDrylock, on 08/17/2008, -0/+17I could imagine this post getting 100+ responses of random product facts if it were closer to the top.
"this bottle of Gatorade was bottled next to a natural spring, in the beautiful green rolling mountains of New Hampshire"
I LOVE THE EARTH, ***** YEAH, PASS ME THE GATORADE *****. - Ant7, on 08/17/2008, -4/+21The other side reads "This cup is blue and green". Another fact the holds about as much importance.
- inactive, on 08/17/2008, -6/+22After reading this 'green' thread I just wanted all of you to know that I'm going out tomorrow and buying a super-size pack of 1000 styrofoam cups and then immediately dump it into the local lake. ***** you.
- Xiata, on 08/17/2008, -2/+18Since when did green text imply environmental responsibility?
What's next? Going to ban the color black because it's racist? - N0153T4NK, on 08/17/2008, -0/+14That's only in the mornin'... you're supposed to be up cookin' breakfast or somethin'
- RegalBegal, on 08/17/2008, -2/+16HOLY *****! Stop the presses! Someone at The Consumerist is whining about something.....w00t!
- smotpoker, on 08/17/2008, -0/+13My first thought is that it DOES produce significant fuel savings for *transportation* however fossil fuels are also used to manufacture these cups in the first place. I have no idea how much petroleum or emissions are created from manufacture or transport of them though.
They might save a lot of fuel coming straight from the factory but I doubt they save much being shipped between warehouses or being created. I agree that a lot of the ecofriendly and organic stuff is pretty much pure marketing but I also still think it is important to seek out and support the real thing.
Just because the major companies finally jump on the bandwagon after 40 years of prodding and get proven to be fraudulent doesn't mean we should give up on the idea altogether. Our real problem is that we keep supporting and trusting these profiteering ruthless super-corporations and giving them more power instead of the smaller companies who are actually honest and really do give a *****. - dhughes, on 08/17/2008, -0/+13 That's very Mitch-Hedberg of you thestranger.
- headzoo, on 08/17/2008, -8/+21"Because the color green is now officially owned by the environmental movement? I don't think your head could be any further up your ass headzoo."
You just reminded me that common sense isn't that common. - jwmazz05, on 08/17/2008, -1/+14i see a bunch of people are giving them ***** for making a styrofoam cup, but actually if you look under the cup it is marked for recycling. i worked at sam's club this summer as a butcher, and on my breaks i would get bored :/
- headzoo, on 08/17/2008, -15/+28"They never implied it was eco friendly. They are just posting a fact about their cup. "
Why else would they even print the message on the cup (In the ever so hip eco-green color) unless they were somehow trying to make a statement about how "Green" they were being? - dupems, on 08/17/2008, -5/+160% is how much of a ***** this company gives about your imbecilic opinion.
- Maged, on 08/17/2008, -1/+12Let's think about this for a moment. It's cheaper to print solid-blue cups than cups with text. So, either they have too much money, they're stupid, or that text is there for a reason. Remember, that text cost them money, so clearly they expect to benefit from that text being there. Please tell me, what other reason could they have for the text?
- robanders8, on 08/17/2008, -5/+15..."We also make them in bulk so you can use a new cup for each sip!"
- megaton, on 08/17/2008, -0/+10Family-run business: I can relate, as I am a family-run-business child, but for the impoverished, Walmart competes with me to a degree that i can't argue with
Health care: do explain. points against their elderly prescription drug plan?
Pay check: they make about $3/hr more than the national minimum wage.
Kidding you: No. Stating facts. However, if people who work at 140% national minimum wage can't make ends meet, you should probably look to Uncle Sam for support
Frankly, I suspect you hate Walmart because it's popular and easy to do, not because it's actually detrimental to our economy or society. I will look forward to your response, however, because I appreciate a reasonable discussion. - T440, on 08/17/2008, -1/+11Anyone care about what Sam's Club has to say about this?
* The café cup we currently use generates 60% less solid waste, by weight, than a typical similar-sized paper cup.
* An average wax-coated paper cup requires about 190% more energy to produce than an average foam cup.
* An average wax-coated paper cup produces nearly 475% more waste, by weight than an average foam cup.
They talk about it right on their website: http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?catg= ... - Netik09, on 08/17/2008, -1/+10Silly rabbit! It's clearly blue.
- bratterscain, on 08/17/2008, -0/+8Something tells me those cups are nothing new and they only put the writing on them to try to find a reason to keep selling them and seem like the good guy.
- Ymeg, on 08/17/2008, -1/+9Because it is a fun, minor detail that you could reflect on?
- megaton, on 08/17/2008, -4/+12What do you hate, exactly? The fact that they have some of the most progressive wage rates? Or that they make things available to low-income families that they wouldn't normally be able to afford? Or is it the fact that they progressively support association among even the lowest of employees?
There's plenty to dislike, but what, exactly, do you hate about Walmart? - captZEEbo, on 08/17/2008, -2/+10@Patrick
They are not "ruining" family owned businesses, consumers are. Consumers are putting their $ where they want and are deciding they PREFER cheaper goods to the family owned business. Walmart saves the average family who shops there 2-3 thousand dollars a year, and that will make a HUGE difference to families below poverty. They don't pay a terribly high wage, but neither does PLENTY of other low-skilled jobs. Every job I worked at when I was under 20 were all minimum wage or at most $1 dollar higher. Nobody gave crap to those companies, some were "family owned" too. I also didn't get health care from any of those companies. If you really like family owned stores, shop there, and tell your friends too. But it seems like most people do not prefer them to cheaper prices.
"Almost slave labor"? I'm not sure if you're talking about the workers of walmart, or the workers of the products they sell, but both are laughable. To call all low-skilled jobs in America slave-labor is idiotic. And the workers that make their products aren't getting paid crap because NOWHERE in their country are there really good wages for low-skilled workers. Most of the workers in so-called "sweat shops" aren't being forced to work there, but choose to do that instead of starve to death. They aren't getting paid much b/c there country is poor in general. Most of the time they get paid more than other low-skilled job in the country which is why they choose to work there. - OCSmoke, on 08/17/2008, -2/+10It doesn't claim to use any less polystyrene. They are simply pointing out that polystyrene weighs less than paper.
It's an attempt to convince the average non-thinking Joe that this cup is somehow better than a paper cup without explicitly lying. - dreicher, on 08/17/2008, -0/+7Yes, because when you look at their logo it's not blue, white and green.
Oh, wait, yes it is. - 0xABADC0DA, on 08/17/2008, -1/+8The majority of shipping costs for cups is in moving their volume, so the cost to move styrofoam vs paper cups is no different. I mean the tractor trailer might weight what, 50,000 pounds? Now how significant is accelerating 100 pounds of cups vs 50 pounds of cups? Pretty insignificant, and then when you throw in the gas used by fighting the wind resistance and road friction (the same for both) then it's even more of a joke reason.
But look at the other side, foam cups are bigger (thicker) than paper ones, so they can fit fewer in a truck which means more trucks trips needed to transport them. This is why you don't listen to mega corps. You can tell a mega-corp is lying because it's mouth is open. - bratterscain, on 08/17/2008, -3/+10dupems, I take it you have stock in Wal-Mart? The reason they're doing this is so obvious.
- dupems, on 08/17/2008, -8/+15It says it weighs less. What is misleading about this, and how is it *pretending* to be green? It's stating a basic fact, whatever subjective inferences you draw from that fact are irrelevant.
Buried as eco-*****. - chrgra, on 08/17/2008, -4/+10i think they use the "lighter than a paper cup" to say that it takes less fuel to ship the "green" polystyrene cups. i hate when douchebags do this stuff. I mean if they really wanted to target the environmentalist demographic it would have been more effective if they bought cheap, biodegradeable paper cups, than paint polystyrene cups.
- Karmavs, on 08/17/2008, -0/+6Less weight means less petrol needed for shipping. A legitimate, though different environmental benefit. (of course; the polystyrene cup is made from petrol; so its not telling the whole story really.)
- TomustPain, on 08/17/2008, -5/+11It's missleading, and you don't need me to tell you why...
- mikelieman, on 08/17/2008, -1/+6What is the benefit to the consumer of the advertised "feature"?
None.
Why publicise an alleged fact ( I haven't seen proof of their claims yet ) if it's of no benefit to the consumer?
It's a benefit to the Seller.
What benefit could the Seller achieve from publicising the alleged fact in this manner?
Alter consumer's perception of the product.
What other ways could this have been done?
A claim of "This product contributes to the aeration of landfills by providing a non-biodegradable filler" would have been similarly effective. - Leonto, on 08/17/2008, -0/+3)))
- SonicPanda, on 08/17/2008, -3/+8Thank you, some people just look for things to get upset at.
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