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- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -43/+311""Give me a break, regardless of content the Bible has massive historical and religious significance. Some kids sex fantasy, not so much. Buried as lame.""
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If you liked "Passion of the Christ", your kids are gona love the violence in the book of LEVITICUS
Gay-bashing, daughter-selling, animal-burning, sinner-stoning... It is delightfully evil and violent! - GTanaka, on 10/11/2007, -20/+256"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."
-Ezekiel 23:20
Absolutely taken out of context, but for some of the stuff the right wing Christians take out against movies and video games, it's only fair due. - break99, on 10/11/2007, -67/+275Sweet irony... What does your own medicine does to you now puritans?
Almost too hilarious to be true. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -52/+203Reclassify it as fiction at least.
- Alphabet, on 10/11/2007, -50/+190@sandor
The bible still contains massive amounts of sex, violance, death, rape, torture, incest, and slavery. I will never understand why parents would want their kids to read such filth. - xTRUMANx, on 10/11/2007, -19/+124@dildooreilly
Wow, sounds good. Is it on Amazon? - Yez70, on 10/11/2007, -10/+111Diggers are not necessarily anti-religion. Many are more anti-hypocrisy though. Religion has many very good aspects. It's the people who distort those points for their own benefits and traditions - that is what people are against.
Personally, I consider the Bible as a terribly disorganized collection of stories chosen by men who wanted to further their own beliefs and traditions. The church cherry picked which books belong in the bible and buried and/or destroyed anything that didn't fit their narrow interpretations. The only thing that really should have relevance to a Christian is the words of Jesus, but instead they prefer to focus on the words of men, not their Lord.
Jesus would not be hated even today, as he was a moral tolerant and understanding person. His words make sense. Others just misinterpret and contradict themselves and mislead his followers. - physphd, on 10/11/2007, -6/+99Yez, that was one of the more articulate posts I've seen in some time. Kudos.
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." -- Gandhi - bupublue, on 10/11/2007, -9/+84@SandorClegane
"Give me a break, regardless of content the Bible has massive historical and religious significance."
But so interesting how people pick and choose. Plenty of very significant books have been banned on school library shelves for far, far less, all because the parents are too afraid they might scar their precious little babies. Check out the list below of the most commonly challenged books in the US. Okay, so there are plenty of things on there you might not consider historically significant (ie, "Where's Waldo?") but there are plenty that are (ie, "1984", "Catch-22", "The Jungle") and plenty more that at least have great literary significance (ie "Lord of the Flies.") And before anyone says something about the Bible not being allowed at school either, well, I had to read parts of the Bible "as literature" in high school, and that was only about 8 years ago. So there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_commonly_challenged_books_in_the_U.S. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -17/+74Bible SHOULD carry a "warning" sticker from Parental Rights groups, advising parents about the sick and illicit content it contains.
- dicerandom, on 10/11/2007, -15/+65I'd rather see it classified as fiction.
- natmaster, on 10/11/2007, -11/+58@renz87
Actually, the Torah is a subset of the scriptures in the Old Testament. - reapergun9, on 10/11/2007, -9/+49Haha. I actually had a Christian kid try and convert me on the grounds that the Bible is full of "badass sex and violence." What does the church teach our youth these days? >.>
http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/funny/bible-warning-label.jpg - reapergun9, on 10/11/2007, -4/+39Anyone seen that movie Jesus Camp? Also some pretty scary crap in there. They're like 8-year-olds talking about how they are an army of God and how they are gonna rule the world and stuff.
- Khemikl, on 10/11/2007, -12/+47Add: Bigotry, sexism, homophobia, genocide, patricide, matricide, infanticide, human sacrifice, animal cruelty, incitement to hatred, slander, xenophobia, incest, rape, belief in slavery, use of biological weaponry, all of the seven deadly sins (by none other than the main character - god) the list goes on, go ahead pick a page... Not to mention straight out lies, anyone who believes this stuff is mental, anyone who defends it should be locked up in a mental hospital.
Go ahead zealots pretend that this isn't true... - dreamflows, on 10/11/2007, -3/+36@undersky
It's funny because born-again Bush funds Sexual Abstinence programs, and goes to violent war:
http://basangpanaginip.blogspot.com/2007/05/bush-religious-war-against-science.html
Can't you see the irony? - RamboJesus, on 10/11/2007, -19/+50As I've always said. If the whole Bible was made into a uncut Movie it would be somewhere from R to X.
When ever someone gives me crap about watching a movie I remind them of the contents of the Bible, and how the center theme of the Bible is the beatings and murder of God in human forum; then I ask them why my movie should be held to a higher standard then the Bible.
God kicks ass, the Bible kicks ass, disagree with me if you wish, it really doesn't matter. - GTPilot, on 10/11/2007, -9/+39@didloreilly
it does: http://img117.echo.cx/img117/984/biblewarning5hl.jpg
doh reapergun9 below this thread beat me 2 it. - kahlessreborn, on 10/11/2007, -7/+36My most terrifying moment was when i visited my friends youth group. They read us a passage about how god said it was okay to kill and pillage a village because they were heathens. Then they asked me and my friends if any of us would like to embrace god we could go into this room with two pastors and talk.
- scrugby, on 10/11/2007, -2/+28This all has to do with the fact that some college students published an article about the sexual habits of local Hong Kongers... 3 people were offended and complained to the tribunal - in actual fact the survey was harmless enough in itself.... This "anti-bible" campaign is more a way to show the OAT (obscene articles tribunal) how ridiculous their ruling in that matter was.... Its not for or against the bible, its a purely social comment...
- DeLtAIjK, on 10/11/2007, -3/+29@kahlessreborn
Same here. I went to a fellowship only to read a passage which God told his follower to kill the enemies without a huge army, and therefore, prove that God was with him.
The youth leader asked if we would do the same thing if God had told us this. One kid plainly shouted, "I'd kill if I heard God telling me to!"
...at that moment, I thought, "How does a madman know he's mad?" - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -8/+33@ren87: Then you're completely ignoring what Jesus said. The Law of the Prophets is all of the Old Testaments...don't you read your own Bible?:
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17
"But this I admit to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect I do serve the God of our fathers, believing everything that is in accordance with the Law and that is written in the Prophets; Acts 24:14 - FiP0, on 10/11/2007, -1/+26My favorite passage is the gang bang, in judges 19:22-29
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=judges%2019:22-29;&version=31; (english)
http://www.lirelabible.net/chercher_ref.php?recherche=JG+19%3A22-29 (french) - bupublue, on 10/11/2007, -3/+27@undersky
Because it's funny. Poetic justice, if you will. - endlessoul, on 10/11/2007, -24/+48As a former Born-Again Christian, I'm happy to classify the Bible as fiction.
All the bad stuff you see in movies these days are probably already in the Bible. After all, I remember more than one sermon including the note that the Bible has advice on almost anything you may have a question about. Even the naughty bits of life.
/take that, pastor - ghostgamer, on 10/11/2007, -10/+31 i got kicked out of barnes and noble once for moving all the bibles into the fiction section
( http://www.bash.org/?406373 ) - hansblix, on 10/11/2007, -28/+49Yeah, those Chinese people are right.
We should label the Bible as indecent, and then go through all the other books we think have naughty stuff in 'em
and label them indecent too.
Then we'll have a big gathering and burn all the Bibles and all the other dirty books we don't like.
WE'LL SHOW THOSE BOOKS WHO'S BOSS! - physphd, on 10/11/2007, -3/+24Renz: You're still not actually saying anything.
"You can emphasize the teachings of the New Testament without ignoring the Old. (Which I never said Christians ignore the old testament so don’t even try. [Yes you did: "Christianity is all about the New Testament. Old Testament is called old for a reason." has obvious implications.]) You can acknowledge the sins of past and still walk the path."
What. Does.This. Mean. ? (except whatever you want it to)
Give any examples, protocols, guidance, ANYTHING substantive. Seriously, I want to know. If you live your life by this doctrine, surely you can articulate it. How do I properly (according to you) interpret my bible with all it's gross contradictions and incitements of violence and bigotry? - azzageddi, on 10/11/2007, -3/+24It's all about the irony, undersky.
- nealparr, on 10/11/2007, -4/+25I think everyone's missing the reason why books like Harry Potter get banned and the Bible is "the good book". People actually read Harry Potter. Most Christians don't even read the Bible.
- bupublue, on 10/11/2007, -5/+25I did something similar at Books-a-Million! I was very annoyed because all of their copies of "Origin of the Species" had been put in the fiction section and books on ID were in the science section. So I put those where they belonged and put a stack of King James where the Darwins had been. This was in Tennessee, so, alas, I couldn't have pulled off moving all of the Bibles because they filled half the store.
- mrsteveman1, on 10/11/2007, -9/+28This isn't about tollerance, its about crazy ***** ***** influencing political decisions and holding back society for no valid reason.
"Christianity - The belief that a cosmic jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.....yeah, that makes perfect sense." - physphd, on 10/11/2007, -5/+24Renz, claiming New Test always takes precedent, then backpedaling when somebody asks about the continued validity of the 10 Commandments, then splitting the difference by saying the Old Test isn't actually totally irrelevant is what I would call cherry-picking, i.e. selectively embracing only what you want instead of all that is there, likely due to inherent and obvious contradictions. That's just me though.
Now, I anticipate another BS response of "NT emphasized over OT" but WTF does that actually mean? We're dealing with the word of god here, so you better be clear - which OT statements are okay for me to ignore? Why those? Who gives you the right to decide?
And that, in a nutshell is the problem with all this. All 32 flavors of christians selectively choose to believe and observe only what they want "emphasize." This practice, in general, is known as cherry-picking. - scrugby, on 10/11/2007, -4/+23You are all totally missing the point behind this.... It has nothing to do with the Bible's message or the fact that people don't like Christianity... Its a statement being made by people in Hong Kong as to the arbitrary and biased nature of the Obscene articles tribunal.... Stop waging a religious war over it... because that is not what the protest is about...
- physphd, on 10/11/2007, -13/+31renz, I read your post and it is basically a lame rationalization of cherry-picking whatever parts of either testament seems convenient at the time.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+22@infiniti: Making up stuff and claming that someone else said it, is still *****.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+202 Kings Chapter 2:24
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up, baldhead," they shouted, "go up, baldhead!"
The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two she-bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the children to pieces.
From there he went to Mount Carmel, and thence he returned to Samaria.
I've read the entire Bible and it is still a myth. It is made up of older stories and other made up stories. I much prefer the Greek stories. - bupublue, on 10/11/2007, -11/+27@shutupanddie
I'm just tired of you little Jerry Falwell protégés running around thinking you've been deputized into the war on Atheism. You're ruining Digg. Your vitriolic criticism of Atheism is as tiresome as a Slashdot meme. Do us all a favor and keep your ***** mouth shut.
Keep it comin', sweetheart. I could continue all night. - FrozenGonad, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17MMmmmmm - sacralicious
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+20Luke 12:45-48: "The lord [owner] of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."
"How do you expect most of the guys here to understand the Bible when majority of them even have not read it."
Many more atheist have read the Bible than so called Christians. The best way to have someone be atheist for them to read the Bible. I recomend it highly.
"They can't, neither they want to understand that all vile things mentioned in the Bible are mentioned so that people can learn and not repeat the errors of their predecessors."
Ahhh...so when God says to stone people for breaking the ten commandments, it is so that we ignore God's commands...makes perfect sense to me.
""Sin no more" - this is what Jesus talked, as well as "Love your neighbor as yourself".
Jesus also said the above quote which sanctions slavery. He whipped money lenders...what did the money lenders do that was so evil?
"Some are vexed that God justly punishes people, as described in the Bible."
Define just. When God justly kills all of humanity in the Flood that was just? When God damns all of humanity for 'original sin' is it just?
"Well, to such people I should say "Good morning" as such people are still sleeping and not understanding that justice is a necessity for a community or society to function properly."
Great point. Don't see the correlation you're trying to make.
"And who is more qualified to administer this justice besides the Creator? ... well, we see each day how humans can handle justice by themselves ..."
First you're assuming a 'creation'. Then you're assuming a Creator. Then you're assuming your so-called Creator is just...so if God caused a tsunami to kill say...a few hundred thousand people, he was being a just God?
"but the atheistic humanists are so proud of humanity ... riiighttt."
I have more 'faith' in humanity than in a man-made religion....riiight - RenZ87, on 10/11/2007, -12/+26@natmaster
Sorry it's not a subset it's fundamentally the same thing. I don't know where you got that idea. The Old testament was a translation for Christians.(Mostly Latin originally) from the Torah(Hebrew).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Testament
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah - rockforever, on 10/11/2007, -30/+43@BREAK99
"Almost too hilarious to be true."
lol, exactly ;-) - bupublue, on 10/11/2007, -9/+21Well, we don't give a ***** about your opinions on your religion either. Get over it.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+18Stop whining. Don't like it, don't read it.
- reapergun9, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16The original comment was based upon the sheer irony of all this: that Christians preach AVOIDING all the ***** that's in the book they live by.
Hm... - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16"The Bible is full of historical facts and yes there was a Jesus who claimed to be God... and yes He was crucified."
Or so the Bible claims. There is no independent verification of this.
"Was He a nut? Was He a liar? Or was He really God's gift to us? It is a religion of faith; if you want 100% proof, you will never be certain."
So you want to base your belief and life around a possible fairy tale?
"We can debate if the miracles truly happened (I believe they did) but you can't just say it was a good story. There is more evidence for the life and works of Jesus than there are of Caesar...do you think the stories of Caesar are just fiction?"
False. There are many written accounts and statues of Gaius Julius Ceasar. Outside of the Bible there is zero evidence of Jesus. In fact, in the bible are there are no first hand accounts of Jesus.
"Parts of the Bible are just stories. The parables were stories that were told to make a point. I believe the historical accounts of the life of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and others are true stories that we are to learn from."
How do you know which is which? What if Abraham, Moses and Jesus are just stories? How can you tell?
"We should learn that God loved us enough to give us a way to enter Heaven and live with Him for eternity. It was by sending Jesus, a pretty radical dude unlike almost all church leaders you see today."
Big leap. You haven't even proven that Jesus existed and now you jump to God? How do you know God loves? Why is there suffering? - Hacbarton, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15@v413
Are you telling me slavery is good in a certain "context"? - bupublue, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13@evisero
Your point, I'm afraid, is moot. The article about is about the bible being filled with violence and sex, not whether there's some sort of message behind the violence and sex.
And for the record, you said:
"You see, instead of crying and protecting the child molester, murderer, or rapist - they punished the entire city because it was wicked."
So the next time a rape or murder occurs in your town, do you think an army should march against it and smite the lot of you? I'm just curious. - physphd, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13Renz, I know it seems harsh, but I've never been able to wrap my mind around this point and I do appreciate your continued responses.
This is a serious, serious question - I'm no troll - but you really should be able to answer for this claimed mandate to re-edit the holy scriptures.
How do you know what words of god were mistakes (I guess that's what you'd have to call it if you don't have to obey them anymore)? Which were the parts where god & son weren't really being serious? How do you know they were just kidding around? Isn't a little egotistical to believe you can re-edit biblical canon? Why can't somebody else re-edit it in a different way to endorse the very things you find unacceptable?
And yet both of you would firmly believe that you had divine approval for your beliefs. That crutch has absolved many a man's conscience to do horrible things.
Any set of rigid political beliefs, religion, or dogmas that chefly serve to save man the effort of thinking critically for himself are not worthwhile. - happylinuxguy, on 10/11/2007, -7/+17The bible recounts thousands of years of history. Of course there'll be violence in there, rapes and all. Just look at these last 100 years. We've got WWII, WWI, Gulf war I, Iraq invasion, the whole IRA terrorist era, 9/11, airplane bombings, vietnam,... just countless murders and rapes. Yet I see these re-enacted on TV on the discovery channel. I see very graphic retellings on TV how hitler's nazi people killed Jewish people in gas chambers. So. I have a new proposal. just like the hong kong group wants to keep people from buying the bible unless their over 18 because it's indecent, lets ban people from learning this history unless their over 18.
It's logical. If you must ban the bible on grounds that it's indecent, then you must ban any other equally indecent history. -
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