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- NICU, on 10/12/2007, -8/+353And the remaining 5% spend all their time on Digg
- Twice, on 10/12/2007, -8/+103You find a penis humorous?
- igraham09, on 10/12/2007, -3/+80pics or it didn't happen
- danakin, on 10/12/2007, -24/+101I'm in the 5%, quite content, waiting for my wedding night next year.
- KibibyteBrain, on 10/12/2007, -39/+110Why? What is wrong with premarital sex in this era where childbirth can responsibly be prevented by means of contraception, namely "the pill". Any rational view on sexuality in humans would show resisting our natural urges to participate in such social activities is as dangerous as resisting the urge to talk with people, or to spend time with our families. If any of your personal superstitions play a role in your disapproval, us civilized people would appreciate it if you'd keep your superstitions to yourself.
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+73"abstinence is the only 100% proven way of avoiding STD/pregnancy"
That totally didn't help Mary out, now did it? - Michael9636, on 08/04/2008, -9/+76I hope all those who live in a fantasy world, by insisting on "abstinence only" safe sex programs, will now wake up and face reality. We need a realistic approach to safe sex education in this country. Condom use is an absolutely necessary part of any sensible safe sex approach. It's about time that our federal government focuses policies on scientific reality, rather than be driven by the convictions of a religious minority. Hopefully, a new congress in 2007 will change that.
- mxcl, on 10/12/2007, -3/+70Most of the people I know have had or are having premarital sex, and they're all thoroughly nice, regular people. But can't talk now, I'm off to my weekly sex-orgy, drugs and pre-marital violence club meeting.
- zSlider, on 10/12/2007, -2/+59And 5% of the US works in the Engineering and Computer Science fields....coincidence?**
** Number purely made up and pulled out of my ass solely for humorous reasons. (Just like anything else pulled out of my ass.) - TimmyTerbler, on 10/12/2007, -15/+67Dugg up for sticking to your values.
- chrishavel, on 10/12/2007, -6/+54From the article:
"However, Janice Crouse of Concerned Women for America, a conservative group which strongly supports abstinence-only education, said she was skeptical of the findings. 'Any time I see numbers that high, I'm a little suspicious,' she said. 'The numbers are too pat.'"
Translation:
"Any time I see data which contradicts my opinions, I attack the data rather than review my opinions." - livejamie, on 10/12/2007, -9/+55the remaining 5% are lying
- HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -2/+46They didn't call it the "roaring" 20's for nothing!
- EBFoxbat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+45"abstinence is the only 100% proven way of avoiding STD/pregnancy"
You can get STDs without sex. - jbreiding, on 10/26/2009, -14/+56Would you buy a car w/o test driving it?
- RetroRufio, on 10/12/2007, -16/+58Does cyber sex count?
- hugorune, on 10/12/2007, -0/+39And in other news:
Pope found to be Catholic
Bears found to be defecating in forests - glock22ownr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39This is news ?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+40Agreed. Abstinence-only sex Ed does not work and rely on scare tactics and not real education.
- MattL920, on 10/12/2007, -7/+40@aslan:
There's only emotional baggage tied to pre-marital sex if you go into it thinking that it's wrong and/or immoral, or even less than ideal. If you subscribe to the belief that sex is normal and natural and doesn't have to be tied to a religious/official ceremony, then pre-marital sex is no big deal at all, and carries no baggage. In fact, then it's not even pre-marital sex. It's just sex. - dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38Does it count if was with a cheerleader who denies it up and down?
- davesphone00, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32The other 5% must have gotten married at 15.
- borchard76, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25This is an interesting find, but a bit odd in a few ways:
First, they _only_ surveyed 38,000, of which 33,000 are women. I'm a statistics guy, and I know that the probability that this wouldn't generalize to the entire population is quite small: but it is there. The fact that a lot of them are women make me a bit curious.
Second, we don't know how they collected their sample. If you actually read the article (novel concept, I know) you may have noticed that this study was conducted by someone with an agenda of showing that abstinence only oriented education is a bad idea. What better way to show this than to provide data that indicates that very few people actually wait until they are married? When someone finds data that so clearly supports their political agenda, I'm skeptical. As you should be too.
Third, I notice that they refer to individuals who were 44 before they got married. This makes me think that there is something strange going on. Are they surveying mostly people that get married later in life (say, after 30)? If so, then you would expect that the number of individuals having premarital sex would increase.
The point is this: don't trust numbers unless you have seen the study report that talks about what they did, how they selected study participants, and have a reasonable idea of what the persons agenda is.
{As a reality check--how did they define 'sex'? Does their definition include oral, vaginal and anal, or just vaginal or something else? Definition makes a huge difference. Does a hand job count (either way)? You need to know the answer to these questions before you make a final determination of what you think they actually found!} - schmoo42, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26I believe that there needs to be a good medium in teaching kids about safe sex. Yes, we need to teach kids that when practicing premarital sex that contraceptives need to be used, we should also encourage children that the best way to prevent STDs and pregnancy is to not have sex at all.
Our society has screwed things up for this whole "staying a virgin until you're married" things anyway. Way, waaayyy back in the day people would get married at very young ages.
We're only raising kids believing that they cannot grow up. - zSlider, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26I knew I should have deleted those pictures...
@ Twice
I tip my hat to you. Nicely done. - tont0r, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27@Aslan72
Believe it or not, sex is just sex. Even if you dont have the piece of paper that says 'hey, its okay by the church to have sex now' - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+28Keep in mind that those pushing for abstinence-only "education" are the same ones who think that creationism should be taught alongside evolution in science class and that we should teach that America was founded on Christian values in civics class. Their views are not informed by fact, so we can expect them to ignore this as well. Trying to reason these people out of their views is like applying medicine to the dead--we're just too late for our methods to have any effect. All we can do is oppose them whenever they try to push their ideology on the rest of us.
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19Yes, sex is a natural thing. We should not shy away from our human sexuality. However, although it being a very natural thing to have sex, there are cultural standards that we allow ourselves to be subject to.
Its against my "embued instincts" to keep from humping all the women in my office so that my offspring will have all the opportunity to flurish. However, its against my accepted culture if I did actually start to hump every woman I see.
In the same manner, it is very natural for guys to want to have sex all the time. Goings against natural instinct isn't wrong. Saving yourself for marriage isn't a bad thing. It takes quite a lot of self control in order to do so. Its one of the most wonderful gifts you can give to your wife, the fact that you've only been with her. And guys, visa versa.
To degrade the previous guy's integrity and intelligence because he made the decision to not have sex does not make him less human. To those that have only negative comments to guys like him, grow up. - HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19I used to believe in the whole "wait until you get married" thing... Then I had sex and said, why the hell did I believe that crap line?"
- profOblivion, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21@outoforderorder
People still say that? Tell the next person you have sex with that you're just trying them out. Just try it. Then ask yourself, what did the five fingers say to the face? - uptown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18I knew Slashdot's numbers were hurting, but who knew they only reached 5% of the world's population?
- CraigJ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Yes, but how many had post marital sex?
- xutopia, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23How old are you? I'm wondering because that "rule" was in place when people would get married at the onset of puberty.
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Jesus, for a second there I thought that meant extramarital sex, and felt completely left out.
- johngardiner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17anyone thats surprised by this... has never had sex
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Alphi
Thats true and I don't have a problem really trying to get teens be abstinent but please teach them real facts and not myths. Teens are going to screw no matter what you do so teach them something proper so they won't get an STD or HIV. These religious abstinent-only classes scare kids. "A condom only works 20% of the time" is ***** quote from one of these classes. Tell the truth and teach the facts. - shankrabbit, on 10/12/2007, -12/+27@xutopia
It's not a "rule", you idiot, it's a choice.
I'm 24 and I wanted the most amazing woman in the world to be the ONLY one to have the most amazing part of me. I did NOT want my wife to crawl into bed with me for the first time knowing that I had done this amazing thing with multiple other women. I wanted her to know that she was the best one, and the only one, above ALL other women, and wanted her to have something that no one else DID or WOULD ever have except her.
Maybe life isn't all about you. Maybe for once it's ok to stand back and give someone ELSE something amazing, instead of just living life for yourself. - Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17No surprises here. I don't doubt some people lied, though, be it about having had premarital sex or having not. It probably evens out, though.
Sex is a very natural thing and the urge to do so is a very strong one. Besides, the 60s happened. - Heembo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Does sex with yourself count?
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Right now a law in Georgia is being challenged that makes it against the law to have sex outside of marriage.
- Alphi1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20And I'm sure to be flamed for this, but here goes anyways...
One thing to consider when discussing "safe sex" and sex education, is that abstinence is the only 100% proven way of avoiding STD/pregnancy. I mean, the pill isn't 100% for preventing pregnancy (and does nothing for preventing transmission of disease), and condoms can and do break at the most unfortunate times. - impulsiveboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15I'll admit: I belong in the other 5%. I had sex with those girls, but I never ended up marrying any of them.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16So 95% of Americans will SUFFER THE RAPTURE!
...see ya there. - webmonk, on 10/12/2007, -12/+25Does anyone else find the typically Christian view that abstinence is 100% effective at preventing pregnancy in direct contradiction to their idea of a man born of a virgin mother?
- shankrabbit, on 10/12/2007, -14/+27That's awesome!
I did the same thing, just got married this past October and it was the greatest gift I could have ever given to my wife. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1495% of women also lie about the number of partners they've had..
- GliTCH82, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18"This is news?"
Just another way we're proving that our generation is more socially aware of what's going on in contrast to generations prior. - Xageroth, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17I'll admit it. I find this absolutely shocking and not because I think pre-marital sex is wrong.
Americans are so weird about sex on so many levels. - Cyphase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Near the bottom of the article..
"Absolutely not," Horn said. "The Bush administration does not believe the government should be regulating or stigmatizing the behavior of adults."
Drug war anyone? Smoking bans? Zoning laws? Most of the government? - Sixcolors, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15"Translation:
"Any time I see data which contradicts my opinions, I attack the data rather than review my opinions."
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