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- billflu, on 10/12/2007, -7/+70This is really sickening.
- person, on 10/12/2007, -5/+47The hosts have lost their morality. I don't know why _anyone_ would want to continute listening to this station after making that statement. And for those who know cyclists who have been killed by cars, this REALLY hurts. Get a life, Playhouse. Your sick minds are worthy of no career that involves speech.
- nborders, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28. . . majority of "bicyclists". Hmmm. Love to see that survey.
On to the facts. All people on bikes want is to be able to ride and not be hit from behind by some idiot. If you disagree with that, then. . . well you need help.
~n - person, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32And the reason why America is fat.
- thenativeraver, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33You are the reason Americans are stereotyped.
- diggmaddy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28and everybody wonders why is US "THE BIGGEST PRODUCER OF GREENHOUSE GASSES". Sigh...
- Petrarch1603, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27this radio station is lame enough without the howard stern ripoff
- nilobject, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27Yep. By law, if there's no bike lane, you have to merge in to traffic.
These fat-ass crybabies are just freaking out because cyclists are becoming assertive. If you ride like a defensive pussy, you'll be dead within a year. I guarantee it. You have to assert yourself on the road unless you want Joe six-pack running over you with his virility-compensation vehicle.
According to them, the only people who ride bikes are hippie-people who are afraid of cars. Or something. Because, you know, using your human abilities to move yourself is wrong. Everyone knows that being healthy is bad in America. - macuser416, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26This is just horrible... I sometimes listen to this show when nothing else is on, but not any more.
- kp3469, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23i agree, if these quotes are true, that this is sick and could even potentially constitute hate speech. but to me it looks like the quotations are second-hand from some woman named Lanette who was listening to the show. is there a transcript of the show somewhere? or do we only have the memories of the obviously biased Lanette (obviously biased b/c she's way into cycling)? no offense to her, but people don't always remember things *exactly* the way they happened.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23Here's the show's website, and what they put up about the bike subject:
http://www.radioplayhouse.com/bikethoughts.aspx
From the looks of the site, it looks like a very poor Howard Stern ripoff. I'm glad we don't have it clogging the public airwaves down here in SoCal. Our morons don't need any more encouragement, they're already bad enough. - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Where I live, cars can park in the bike lanes, making them somewhat useless. Cyclists need to cut into traffic to go around parked cars.
- Korvaras, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Um... it's illegal for a bicyclist to ride on the side walk... and they are SUPPOSE to turn using the CAR turn lane. At least in Canada, and I am pretty SURE the same goes for the states.
- Lososaurus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20In other news, cyclists in Portland start wearing steel toed boots and carry pipes for self defense.
- sinjar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Commuting in your car by yourself is "pretty damn selfish" as well. These cyclists may be commuting home during rush hour as well not just out for a leisurely ride.
Cyclists are, by law, are supposed to follow the same traffic rules as the cars. If a cyclist is in your lane be patient, wait for a safe opening, then go around them. I few seconds of your commute won't make you miss Wheel of Fortune.
Most commuting cyclists aren't out there to make your life miserable. They are just trying to get to work or home just like you. - askjeffro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18FYI: Portland has more miles of bike lanes then any other city its size (A lot more). I'd give the exact number of miles as I just read it in Portland monthly but I forgot and can't find it online.
IMO, what we really need is people to recognize the benefits of actually living as if you belong in a society as opposed to trying to live in your own little world of isolation. - Zabbawack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17I ride and drive. My friends boss was killed when she was hit by a car, while out with her family. Her daughter was paralyzed and husband almost killed. If you think that is funny, you are SICK. These radio hosts wouldn't think it was funny if it was their family....would they? Now they are getting more attention, hopefully it comes back to bite them in the ass, because that's what they deserve! I think they road can be shared with cyclists, but if your riding, stay off busy streets during rush hours! If your driving just watch out!!!
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15This is the same kind of mentality that has Americans laughing at economy cars, conservation and anything else that isn't some "macho" self-destructive activity.
It might have been funny for a few years during the early eighties, but now it's just out of control. - person, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14@icepick314
People all over the world, except the US, it seems, are more courteous to cyclists. Europe, (Copenhagen in particular), is very bike friendly. It's just the stress and intollerance of Americans who can't fully appreciate bicycles (for the reasons that you've said).
@ IgnatiousReilly
maybe you should have biked, too. - hehe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13It's only effective marketing if it gets people to tune into the show. Hopefully, people are disgusted enough that they avoid it. (Fortunately, it only plays in about a dozen markets, too.)
- GregR, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13And I'm sure all the motorists always obey all the rules.
Very few drivers make full stops or bother to signal turns. Does that mean I should hit them with my truck? - person, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13According to the Oregon Bicyclist Manual, published by Oregon DMV and Oregon Department of Transportation, there are three legal ways to make a left turn, including using the left turn lane, in which the turn is made identically to a vehicle. There is a type of cycling called "Vehicular Cycling" in which the bicycle is considered a vehicle, and while on the road, faces the same laws as a motorist.
I wish cyclists and motorists could get along better. I wish there was a way to travel by bicycle without going through neighborhoods (because that requires hitting countless stop signs), and not having to slow down cars on main roads. I wish Portland was more like Copenhagen. - Wolfboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12In my city, it is legal for cyclists to ride on the sidewalks except in a downtown historic district (only a few blocks).
- sagefool1975, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Stopped clock or not, it's never 'right' to wish people dead.
That said...I commute 90% of the time by bike and obey all the traffic laws and I agree that something like 80% of other cyclists, while not bastards, fail to obey the traffic laws they throw up in the face of drivers. Running lights, taking the lane only when it is advantagous to them, etc. It is quite annoying to everyone but themselves. Of course I think like 80% of drivers also do every selfish thing in their power to get ahead as well, including breaking traffic laws. So maybe we should try to do something crazy like teach people not to be selfish bastards and actually have a driving test (or road use test) that isn't so easy a brain damaged senior citizen chimp could pass it. Defintely a crappy situation for everyone. I go out of my way to use bike lanes where I can, but bike lanes just don't go everywhere in SF. Alas - hzrds, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17So lanes for bikes? Hmmm... these so called, bike lanes may work... And a place for pedestrians too? hmmm, like some sort of walkway? Genious
- JulieB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I just looked at The Playhouse's website and they are standing by their attitude that most cyclists deserve trouble on the road. I am a casual cyclist and I admit, there are an awful lot of a*hole cyclists out there. However, I do think this is harmful because I don't think a lot of people understand why I have to ride in the left lane to turn, and why I sometimes ride in the middle of the road to avoid people opening their car door right into me. Yes, I agree... I bear some responsibility for avoiding accidents. But at 15 mph +, I'm getting to that door a heck of a lot faster than a non-cyclist might think. "Taking the lane" is an appropriate defensive move at that time.
- duke, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13"clog up traffic by using the wrong part of the road (ie: using the CAR turn lane instead of using 2 crosswalks, like pedestrians do)."
Research the law in your state. There's no such thing as a "car lane". If you're turning left on a bike, you get in the left lane, because that's what the law requires VEHICLES to do. Bicycles are not pedestrians or toys - they are VEHICLES. Don't believe me? Watch a bike cop some day. Go argue the traffic law with him if you don't like it. - spanner, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Utterly sick, can't wait till the petrol prices double. What sort of mentality do some people have to care so little about human life.
- thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12also, i personally am terrified that i am going to hit a cyclist when i'm back in miami, and somehow be found at fault. i'm sure it will happen one day, so many cyclists in miami use the road, yet fail to obey the rules of the road (like stopping for red lights and stop signs)
- zekt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Why do people leave their brains at home when they go onto radio show.
If this person accidentally hit a cyclist in the next week or two... do you think he would be
walking away without a court appearance? Even if they were entirely innocent, they would still
be hauled into court to prove that innocence. Potentially, this is a couple of thousand dollar liability they
have sitting over their head. Not what I would call smart.
In my experience, the people who complain about cyclists have little or now driving skills themselves.
Most of them cannot think outside the box they drive in. The have no idea about things like braking distances trucks require, how invisible motorcycles can be, that kids can focus on balls and chase them
out onto the street without looking, that 4wd have blinds spots that are larger.
You get the same things will cyclists as well - they forget about things like speed differential - and the lack of confidence of some drivers.
What I have found time and time again (though lots of driving, club level cycle racing and motorcycling) is that the people who are inconsiderate at one are normally inconsiderate at all of them. - thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10the same first amendment rights that let us have digg and this persons blog let this radio host have his show.
i would assume that unless he is specifically advocating injuring cyclists on purpose, he is protected. - vitriolix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10sounds like routine shock-jock *****. congrats, you are doing their marketing for them right now ;)
- flamingmb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I live in portland and I dont listen to this radio station anyway but I am a very avid cyclist and ***** like this pisses me off. Because some of the people who listen to him, mnostly teens and 20 somethings is going to say "huhu wouldnt it be funny to throw something at that guy on a bike....that guy on the radio would think its funny........."
yeah its not funny. ***** this guy and his radio show. - duke, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Anyone who harasses cyclists with a car deserves a U-lock through the window.
- Takteek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I think he might have been serious.
- splammo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Hes telling us what the station is in response to a post who doesnt know what it was. I appreciate it. It isnt marketing anymore than the link to their website is.
- JavertHolmes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I always love how cyclists have the stereotype of being "pussies." I challenge anyone who feels that way about cyclists to ride a major urban street at rush hour for a few weeks in a row. On the street, not on the sidewalk.
I've tried it myself and didn't have the heart for it. Between constantly watching my right side for people improperly parked in the bike lane opening their doors and making me into a Jackie Chan stunt, to watching the people on my left who are overly confident in their ability to read distances and nearly clipping my handlebars all the time, the bike commute in a city is a tad insane.
Add to that people who make right turns in front of you at an intersection, jackasses yelling various comments, dangerous mid-intersection streetcar rail crossings, bad weather cycling and I'd propose cycling as an extreme sport "worthy" of ESPN 2.
Hats off to the cyclists that commute daily in a responsible manner. A hearty "***** you" goes out to both the cyclists and motorists who are irresponsible. - icepick314, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9reason why people don't listen to radios anymore....
is it that hard to slow down and go around a bicyclist on the road?
what's wrong with people riding a bike for exercise or to work?
have you seen Asian countries? drivers are very courteous to people on bikes and pedestrians since it's more common to own a bike than a car... - hehe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8http://www.radioplayhouse.com/ ...bottom left. A rebroadcast of the episode is on Playhouse TV tonight, which is shown in Portland and a couple other markets.
- hehe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9In Oregon, it is legal to ride a bike on the sidewalk at "pedestrian speed" i.e. 4mph or so. I believe it is similar in other states.
- Markdoggin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It's only a matter of time before cyclists start packing semi-automatic weapons and shooting radomly at cars, then it'll be complete chaos on the streets! I guess then it's a crap shoot if you're a cyclist or a motorist!
- person, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It seems like we've already seen an incidence like this... Discrimination against a group of people. And it was already proven to be immoral. I'm thinking about the Civil Rights Movement in the US. It seems like somehow, we're forgetting about that, and we're stooping back down to that level of hating an entire group of people.
- loginx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@TheCasablancan
I bike all the time and try at all cost to avoid areas frequented by too many cars because you basically risk your life every time you take your bike on the road if your city planners weren't thinking of cyclists.
For example, where I live, whether you decide to cycle on the sidewalk or on the road and that someone decides to take a hard-right to get on the Mc-Donnalds parking lot, I will probably end up a hamburger patty in just a few seconds. They just don't think to look in their mirror, take the turn, and you end up lying in the middle of the road... if they drive some pick-up truck, they might not even notice that they just knocked you out. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Oh no, a biker's in your lane! He minorly inconveniencing you! You'd better send him to the hospital--it's nothing less than what he deserves for making you miss the opening of today's Wheel of Fortune.
Actually, I think I'd rather have dangerous jerks like yourself off the road than bikers who are obeying the law. - maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7who the ***** can stomache morning shows, or radio shows in general?
- Cheeseness, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Personally, I'd rather see cars banned from metropolitan roads, and only bicycles and public transport be permitted. I don't think I can count on one hand how many problems that could be the solution to.
- troon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It's only "legally travelling" if the road is clear. If there's a cyclist ahead of you, the speed limit is "appropriate to the conditions". You have to wait until it is clear and safe to overtake. If that means slowing down, well boo-hoo. Don't let me hold you up in your search for someone who cares.
- mancat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"People all over the world, except the US, it seems, are more courteous to cyclists. Europe, (Copenhagen in particular), is very bike friendly. It's just the stress and intollerance of Americans who can't fully appreciate bicycles (for the reasons that you've said)."
Because many of the cities are built for bicyle usage, and bicyclists are given appropriate space, many times they are given completely different sections of the street in which to ride. Very few cities in the US were designed with bicycles this much in mind, and so bicyclists are forced out into the streets. That's the whole point. They shouldn't be mixing in with cars! Yes, I know that they don't have much of a choice here in the US, but it should provide some incentive for serious development of separate bike pathways. - TheCasablancan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5NPR is the *****. Do not hate upon my Weekly World News.
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