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- TheNorris, on 11/15/2007, -2/+98obligatory things first: ***** The RIAA!
other than that, good article with some pretty solid points. I think the RIAA and MPAA has way too much power on their hands as it is. - brentinkc, on 11/15/2007, -1/+42I say good on the students for their brass balls. I realize they remained anonymous, but you've got to have a pair to stand up to the RIAA right now.
- autosovereign, on 12/06/2008, -5/+45Doesn't matter, the RIAA/MPAA can rewrite the laws whenever they want.
- latrosicarius, on 11/15/2007, -1/+34All the RIAA's got to do is bribe-- i mean "lobby" Congress and they can get whatever laws they want. This has got to be the most corrupt House & Senate I've ever heard of.
- wingo123, on 11/15/2007, -0/+24I've been wondering about this very thing. I work at a University, and everyone's always VERY concerned about FERPA, a federal act which forbids any University employee from giving personal student information out to any third party.
I wonder if you could apply FERPA also to the students' IP address? It may not be explicitly written into the act, but I'd bet you could make a case that it falls under 'personal information'. Hmmmm... - CentralNexus, on 11/15/2007, -1/+23RIAA /MPAA are using a shotgun approach -- at any likely target hopeing they actually get a true perp. That's not going to last forever -- ESPECIALLY if they overload the courts with half-supported half-documented claims...
- SomeImagination, on 11/15/2007, -1/+22I wish the RIAA would just ***** off, they don't care about helping music artists they just want to mooch off their talent and leech as much money as they possibly can
- DarkDx, on 11/15/2007, -4/+24***** the **AA.
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....................................... - ddiggler08, on 11/15/2007, -1/+20Good idea on his part to stay anonymous...otherwise an RIAA hacker would be taking inventory of his hard drive right now. As for what he said, reason and logic never worked against the mob , so his argument will not do much good.
- kosmoX, on 11/15/2007, -0/+12Actually, if this kid is right, it will be safer to do your piracy from the university's network.
- luchid, on 11/15/2007, -0/+11Uhmmm you shouldn't be so happy, the Canadian equivalent to the RIAA (CRIA) shut Demonoid down.
- wordsofwisedumb, on 11/15/2007, -0/+9The CRIA seems to have a pretty strong hold on some people in the North. You guys pay a tax on CDs, demonoid just had a major setback and has been blocked from Canada for a while anyway, etc.
- lucutus, on 11/15/2007, -1/+9Lovin it. I was wondering how long it'd be until the RIAA tangled with someone smart enough to put up a good legal argument.
- m0tbaillie, on 11/15/2007, -0/+8As someone who does sysadmin type work at a Big Ten school I can tell you ...yes...yes, it is.
- Damian91, on 11/15/2007, -0/+8HEY RIAA, LEAVE THOSE KIDS ALONE!
- NYC83, on 11/15/2007, -3/+10riaa: laws, facts, reality be damned. we'll make our own reality.
sorta sounds like someone familiar... - DivisibleByZero, on 11/15/2007, -0/+7even the NCAA?
- Xanium4332, on 11/15/2007, -0/+6Spray and pray...
- Pic0, on 11/15/2007, -0/+6them too!
- puto, on 11/15/2007, -5/+11Not in Canada they dont ahahah
I feel bad for our southern brothers :/ - Chan815, on 11/15/2007, -0/+6yeah...too ***** bad the RIAA pays for alot of schools internet service so they can do what they want, just so happens my school is one of those (NIU) ugh
- scabbers, on 11/15/2007, -1/+7Just do your piracy from home? Students are fish in a barrel to these people.
- formergthing, on 11/15/2007, -1/+6Well, although they might end up losing money - its really the band that is supposed to lose money. Big labels are nothing more then specialized banks with connections in the music industry and distribution channels. A one million dollar contract isn't a gift from the record company, it's a loan - and they expect you to pay it back one way or another.
- jaewon223, on 11/15/2007, -0/+5read the article again.
- DivisibleByZero, on 11/15/2007, -0/+5The IP address isn't the personal part, nor is it the part they need to obtain. They already have the IP and need the name+physical address to go with it.
- djbon2112, on 11/15/2007, -1/+6Demonoid just pussied out. It has been ruled at lease once by our Supreme Court that the downloading of media from P2P is perfectly legal, and that trackers aren't illegal.
If they had fought it they would have won. - xenex11, on 11/15/2007, -1/+6That's what happens when you ***** with people who are smarter than you are greedy!
- cheesehead, on 11/15/2007, -0/+4As long as money continues to control our Canadian politicians and ***** like Stephen Harper floats to the top, your laughter may be premature.
Here's a link to a guy who is staying on top of this issue. http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2238/125/
Don't forget the Americans are in the process of extraditing Canadian Marc Emery for a crime which isn't persued in Canada. - sporg, on 11/15/2007, -0/+4The law of the land you say?
"All I see before us is a waste of water, so put no stock in the law of the land"
Arrrrgggh! - DontGiveADamn, on 11/15/2007, -3/+7It's not stealing. Stealing is when I take something from you and now you don't have it anymore.
- ryan83189, on 11/15/2007, -1/+4The riaa are asses , i dont pirate music, but they seem to try so hard to bankrupt already broke college students and get them expelled. If you are a major up and down loader thats one thing, but if your like most people trying out music to see what you like , then legally downloading it, they shouldn't go out of their way to catch you. if they want some big piraters go to europe russia or china(mpaa), not the local college just because it's closer.
- gabdewulf, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3Theywill do this forever just look at the DEA. They shotgun every chance they can to the point cops can search cus a "feeling".
- sporg, on 11/15/2007, -1/+4Im not sure what this "power" is that they supposedly posses because I never felt any pressure to slow down my pirate downloads and warez usage. In fact I stepped it up a notch out of spite.
- mclewell, on 11/15/2007, -1/+4Thank god, but it took a student to bring these laws to the floor and not a copyright attorney. Go Doe 3!
- cherish592, on 11/15/2007, -1/+4Heh... that reminds me of a slick divorce lawyer f-ing up his own divorce and crying about it.
- jaewon223, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3george washington university has some smart kids.
- Divals, on 11/15/2007, -1/+4Well, that second case doesn't mean you're a jerk, just poor.
- Divals, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3I reject your reality and substitute my own!
- sporg, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2Actually he is a 12 year kid with the IQ of a potato.
- cliffski, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2cool. let the kids ruin their own education because they were stopped from stealing music.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111
what *****. - Gndoab, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2facts can be use to prove anything!
- flahavin, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2Dear Damian91,
The use of "Leave those kids alone" is a violation copyright law. Please write a check to "Cash" in the amount of $50,000, and send to our head quarters immediately to the attention of CEO. Failure to do so will result in legal action, at your expense.
Thank You,
RIAA
*This Message is protected by Copyright Law..........* - Corvidae, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2Actually I support musicians, I buy direct from the artists or not at all. Record companies are a dying industry that needs to be cut loose.
- Mike89, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1.. They do? Where'd you pull this?
- spyd3rweb, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1***** GARY BETTMAN!!!
- Richandler, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1If the RIAA gets there way I say the student dropout or walk out in mass.
- naturemade, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1I just can't imagine what the RIAA is hoping to accomplish with all these lawsuits? No one is stopping, I have never come across one person who has said to me: I don't download music because I am afraid of the RIAA. Most people don't even know what the RIAA is; but, they are doing a wonderful job marketing themselves. Every time someone new learns of the RIAA it is in the context of a headline on a newspaper explaining how they are suing another dorm.
Is the goal to scare people into paying for music or to just become one of the most detested organizations in the U.S. so that even less people will pay for music? They are literally pissing me off to the point that I *will not* buy a single piece of music associated with them. I support Doe3 wholeheartedly and if ever starts a legal defense fund I will definitely be contributing. - Chan815, on 11/16/2007, -0/+1my friend works in the tec department at NIU, he told me that a few years ago NIU was targeted as one of the top schools with people downloading music, so the RIAA set up a deal with our school saying that they would pay for all of the schools internet as long as they can monitor our p2p downloading, and bittorent usage, turns out they fully shut down our torrent usage, which the tech department fought back saying that some people use it for coding etc.... thats the gist of it...yeah kinda sucks
- VAPerson, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1They'd be idiots to not remain anonymous. When defending yourself it is smart to give up as little information as possible. Do you think the student really wants to be identified so they can file a lawsuit against him/her and then seize his/her computer as evidence? The whole point of the student response is to remain anonymous and prevent the school from being forced to give up his/her info.
- Divals, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1If I could afford to buy music, I would. Maybe I just have an overly optimistic view of people. But if someone is too poor to buy music anyway, their downloading it is not harming anyone. It doesn't take potential profits from the companies, since they wouldn't be able to afford to buy the music anyway. It doesn't take anything away from anyone else... so while the legality is shaky at best, there's really nothing ethically wrong with it.
That said, if you're employed, have disposable income and so on... there's no reason to download music, except to see if you like it and, if you do, go buy the album. -
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