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- zombiedepot, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23Anyone who would buy prozac for their dog, probably needs pills themselves.
- itsHef, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Great, my dog Argo, was listening to My Chemical Romance, slitting his paws and taking money out of my god damned wallet. At least that phase is over thanks to this.
- xmuzik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10no joke, my dog's vet today actually recommended we put her on prozac
- aximax, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Unbelievable.
- rocke86, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8It is to help dogs deal with living the American lifestyle...
Boredom, obesity, and loss of purpose, you know, The American Dream. - arcangelgabriel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9What the ***** is wrong with this planet?
- Rammsteined, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Prozac is iffy for humans to take, let alone pets.
(By iffy, I mean it can "cure" depression while inducing other symptoms like paranoia, schizophrenia...you know, all the good stuff) - zombiedepot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9The whole Prozac for dogs thing is excessive and moronic. There are many countries (including this one) where people can't afford to put food on their table, let alone buy Rover some anti-depressants. An animal won't follow your rules no matter how high you get him.
How can anyone be surprised that a dog is territorial and aggressive? Furthermore I think it's morally wrong of you to rob a dog of it's personality with pills because you can't discipline your pet. I've had dogs most of my life and never had one problem that would require medication designed for dysphoria in humans. - TuxNuts, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I suggest finding a new vet.
- TuxNuts, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@ orph3us and treas
Your 100+ lbs family pets' aggressive nature is probably a result of poor breeding and/or poor training. Doping them up isn't the answer. People need to realize that dogs are a big responsibility. They require attention, exercise, and proper handling and training from day one until death. Above all, people need to chose breeds that are appropriate for their lifestyle.
I've seen many friends chose dogs they thought were "cool". Then they fail to establish themselves as the dominant individual in the owner/dog relationship, and they end up with an ***** of a dog. Your dog should never be "the alpha male" in your relationship. Once they've established their dominance over you it's a long road to reclaim that dominance. - zombiedepot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@m0laria
He's not on acid, Edward Gibbon said it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_Roman_Empire#Edward_Gibbon - monergism, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as time or accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric yielded to the pressure of its own weight.
- CaptainNoPants, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Is this it? The first sign of the apocalypse?
The four horsemen of prescription drugs are riding and they're getting our dogs high. - Shaman760, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5SSRIs kill.
http://cchr.org - TuxNuts, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Indeed. Preferably some type that causes them to go sterile.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My grandmother's dog has been on and off Prozac for 5 years now. What you put in your dog is a lot less regulated than what goes in a human. She thought it did a world of good for the dog, I'm not so sure.
- bsmeteronhigh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Dog#1: I really happy.
Dog#2: About what?
Dog#1: My owner took me to the vet to put me on meds.
Dog#2: So, the drugs make you happy?
Dog#1: Nope. The walks do.
Dog#2 The walks?
Dog#1: Yeah, he sells the meds on the street. Takes me on the walk to sell 'em.
Dog#2: Perfect cover. - xvertigox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4SSRIs wouldn't 'dope' up a dog, it sounds like you're thinking of opiates. Chances are you know many people on some SSRI and you don't even know. It's actually really common.
- BasharTegg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The more I read about SSRIs, the more I think they aren't a good idea:
http://www.breggin.com/Breggin%20response%20to%207%5B1%5D.1.05%20FDA%20adult%20suicide%20warnings.htm - chembro84, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5It's pretty nuts, but here's why I think so. I have no doubt that dogs are intelligent enough to have depression problems and chemical imbalances, I often feel that people don't give dogs enough credit, they always surprise me with how smart they are (with absolutely no language between us, they figure out how humans behave pretty well). Here's the problem, if a dog is "acting weird" you have no way to figure out why, it's not like you can have a therapy session with them, you're just giving them a pill to chill them out, and that's not right.
- DaveF, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Great. More things pissing out mind altering chemicals that will make their way into my drinking water.
- xvertigox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@rammsteined
What the ***** are you on about? Fluoxetine can't 'induce' schizophrenia. If you understood the first thing about mental disorders you'd know how stupid that sounds. SSRIs usually aren't meant to be a 'cure' for depression but rather a tool used in conjunction with therapy like CBT. - serval, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm no SRI pusher, but I have met dogs whose owners have turned to drugs like these (Clomicalm ... great name ... generic name: clomipramine). Here's a Businessweek article from two weeks ago: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8OFVP580.htm
Some dogs have problems when their owners leave the house -- usually if the dogs have been abandoned -- they call it separation anxiety. They think the pack has left them behind and being pack animals they think this means they're being left to die ... which would suck.
This would be fine, just let the dog get over it with time, except most dogs express their troubles by tearing up carpet, furniture, and in a few cases drywall. They can't understand that their owner is coming back eventually and since they can't talk we can't tell them that they go ballistic because they think their life depends on getting out.
Training is the solution as many have mentioned above. But some people need to use SRI pills as a stop gap measure. Why this isn't the case for humans is a whole other bizarro question.
The funny thing is that Eli Lilly patented Prozac for dog and cat use 178 different ways before it was even available for human use. Part of the development process because they did massive animal testing. They're trying to compete with Novartis who makes Clomicalm, basically the same drug. This is about making more money with a brand that people recognize, not whether it's appropriate to use the drugs' on our pets. - Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Its only a matter of time until we hear about these Prozac dogs committing doggy suicide.
- joevill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3WTF!?
- KuntaKinte, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6oh no, now they are going to blame shootings on depressed dogs and the medication they take
- Ares047, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Dogs must have a "Ruff" life...
- lickmylovepump, on 06/14/2009, -0/+1You know nothing of which you speak, "Dr." Scott.
- looselips, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Great, so instead of having sad dogs who do not want to chase cars,
now we will have them running in front of us trying to kill themselves.
"Did I just hit a pothole or a big poodle?" - adrianwaj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It's easier to just take the dog for regular walks, don't punish it and praise it in the same circumstances, socialise it when it is young, don't over or under feed it, train it somewhat and lastly keep it off prescription meds. You can't teach an old dog new tricks, so when it is young learn what is best for your animal. You'll be happier as well.
- orph3us, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I take offense at saying a 9mm bullet is better than prozac brandyman. We've been through multiple trainers, dog psychologists and the like. And no, our answer isn't to put the dog down. He's fine around the family. Why so afraid of Prozac? If the brains chemicals are out of balance whats so hard to understand that a drug might fix that inbalance? SSRI's, other anti depressants may be very young, but the idea around them isn't a bad one. For all of you who hypocritically say hey pot's great, lsd, etc is great... Anti depressants take the idea of these drugs and try to refine the chemical deliverance to a more pinpointed chemically and time diffused process. You have a point about choosing the right breed for your lifestyle, and not letting them become alpha over their owners.. But, for those of us where problems exist, I do not believe in euthenasia. I believe thats much crueler than offering to alleviate their anxiety. Its a boost, along with more training and exercise, you don't have to see this as something that is completely evil. I do see where it can be seen that way, but in some cases, it might actually help. Right now the public trend is to rebuke these things, but come on.... you've got to see that there are uses for these drugs.
- boltox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3This might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard of.
- whyteeford, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7This is very interesting news. I just hope it doesn't become abused like Ritalin is for children.
- yomamaphat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Cool now we can take our dog's meds.
- lickmylovepump, on 06/14/2009, -0/+1Not on "Hump Wednesday".
- kd1s, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Hey, we've been drugging kids and grown ups into submission for decades, why not fido?
- smek2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Not enough we drugging up our own children, now it's other animals too. I wonder if this is even legal? I mean, morally. Humans are allowed to "own" animals as a personal toy, that's dubious alone, but now they can abuse them with man-made drugs too?
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Both of you who suggest killing the dog are missing a big thing. The owners are attached to these dogs. To them, it's like saying to put a bullet in their child.
I agree for many of these dogs, the real answer would have to never have overbred these dogs and created the problems in the first place. But once these people make the mistake of buying and falling in love with these dogs, you have to look for different answers. - lickmylovepump, on 06/14/2009, -0/+1I think we're all overlooking a good old-fashioned beating when it comes to dealing with dog depression. Whenever my dog mopes around the house feeling all sorry for itself, I just take the clock off the wall and beat the crap out of it until it stops being all emo. It really helps out his mood.
- Jax08, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Could be the dog needs to be taught that the owners are the alpha and the dog is the pack. A dog needs someone in charge; if the owner isn't in charge, the poor dog develops anxiety and all kinds of problems. He trys to run the family since (in his eyes) you aren't his pack leader(s). Obedience train - heel sit stay come wait. Real easy. Then walk the dog. Put him is his place (heel) and let leash slack. Keep him beside you and take a long walk. You will have a lot happier dog. I am helping a shelter dog (chow chow) socialize with other dogs (he thinks they are something to eat). So I muzzled him and took him to meet new dogs. We are learning to trust each other and Samuel is turning into a real sweety. (He bit me - twice - before he decided to trust me; almost took him back.) NO PROZAC FOR DOGS OR PEOPLE. Love and training.
- ricksite, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I wouldn't use "doping them up" to describe SSRI's. SSRI's help the brain work as it was intended. Imagine a swimming pool with a leak in it. The leak gets so big that swimming is difficult. You plug the hole (SSRI's) and soon you can start swimming again. Antidepressants are often mischaracterized. On TV, I have seen an actor taking Prozac in a stressful situation. In actuality, the pills take weeks to take effect. To use my analogy, plugging a hole in a swimming pool doesn't instantly cause it to be full.
- TuxNuts, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I was using the phrase "doping them up" in a general sense of giving them medication of any kind that alters their natural behavior, etc. The above comment was directed at two individuals who mentioned pets with aggressive behavior. While the drugs may be useful in altering the dog's behavior temporarily, it shouldn't be a long term solution, or the first attempted solution.
I just don't want to see the day when people run to their vet to get pills for their poorly disciplined dog, similar to the way they run to the doctor to get pills for their poorly disciplined children (which I also wish happened a lot less than it does). - sdnakhla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My wife's bichon has been on prozac for years. The dog has major anxiety and wouldn't stop whining, even if you were petting her and giving her all the attention in the world. Plus, she was hyper and would run all over the place. The prozac hasn't made her normal, though. It just takes the edge off.
- DrScott, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I don't understand how people think that anti-depressants "treat" mental stress. It just configures your brain so that the brain chemistry in question can not take place. When the prozac is gone, so is that temporary fix, and all you're left with is a damaged electro-chemical complex in your brain. There's no long term gain, only a long term loss.
- lickmylovepump, on 06/14/2009, -0/+1I don't think there was a green and white horse.
- lickmylovepump, on 06/14/2009, -0/+1You are being buried due to your reference to Scientology. Digg has trends, and you need to be more fashionable.
- lickmylovepump, on 06/14/2009, -0/+1@rammsteined
What the ***** are you on about? Fluoxetine can't 'induce' schizophrenia. If you understood the first thing about mental disorders you'd know how stupid that sounds. SSRIs usually aren't meant to be a 'cure' for depression but rather a tool used in conjunction with therapy like CBT. - lickmylovepump, on 06/14/2009, -0/+1You idiots are leaving out the Red Rocket technique, which cures all depression in dogs.
- Config, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1For when your dog is feeling a bit melancholy.
- Blandyman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"I don't know if Prozac is the answer, but dogs in general are one ***** up species."
Dogs aren't ***** up, yours is. Sorry, but most dogs do damn well in a home environment if they're living comfortably. That's why they're domesticated, not wild.
And the answer is not Prozac, but I have one of many:
A 9mm bullet.
Sure, sounds excessive, but if your dog's aggressive, take it to a trainer. Take it to a vet to be put down. Give it to a shelter so they can eventually put it down. And if one day it attacks you because you decided not to do those things, at least you'll have your bullet as a last resort.
Note: Bullet requires gun, as well. -
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