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- LordSnoogins, on 10/12/2007, -11/+368I'm so glad to see that these schools, private or not, have so much extra time and resources to expend monitoring thing on MySpace so diligently.
- Rooster99, on 10/12/2007, -8/+184Shouldn't this work both ways then in that the staff and teachers at the school should have their 'out of school' activities monitored and scrutinized? I remember a time (graduated a few years ago) at school in which a rugby game was being played by our school as a warmup game for the Super 14. We were warned that any student who was seen at the game, participating in anything the school deemed 'naughty' would be dealt with harshly.
We then witnessed a few of the teachers and members of staff getting completely wasted in the stand. Come Monday, the entire student-base had seen/heard about it. Nothing happened to the teachers. Yet they claimed to have seen a student smoking a ciggie. He was expelled on the Tuesday. Needless to say, that many pics/vidoes of the drunken teachers were passed around in disgust and as a protest, many students changed out of their classes. Yet nothing happend to them and the student was still expelled.
Oh, and about the article - There needs to be a separation between school and out of school. Im sure the teachers get the luxury of leaving work at work. Why cant students do the same?
- ArntorFTL, on 10/12/2007, -6/+172Too bad for MySpace. At least Facebook will be happy that all these kids will start using it now.
- Zzyw, on 10/12/2007, -3/+87Digg for the pic alone.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+75Of all the People in the world to teach you something that you can actually use in a practical situation, and have an extremely positive effect on your life... who would have guessed it would be the schools?
- andrewcod, on 10/12/2007, -5/+74Yeah, but there was no dramatic "...AT HOME!" in your title. Ah, the wonders of digg.
- DeflatorMouse, on 10/12/2007, -4/+72It most certainly is legal. It's a private school; they can attach any rules to admission that they want. Your kids remain free to use Myspace all they want, and the school remains free to tell them to find another school.
- acceleriter, on 10/12/2007, -15/+66Does anyone else find it the height of irony that a *Catholic school* is justifying this fascist crap by claiming to be protecting students from pedophiles? Protecting their turf is more like it!
- sjbdallas, on 10/12/2007, -12/+60I'm sure it's perfectly legal but it's sad that even these rich private school kids don't have parents to police their actions online.
- MaxPayne3476, on 10/12/2007, -3/+38It is completely legal. Simply put, private schools can admit, deny, and kick out basically whoever they wish for any reason. I say basically because there is a few regulations and technicalities, but MySpace certainly doesn't apply.
- Konrad9, on 10/12/2007, -2/+34It's a private school, there's nothing illegal about it.
Douchebaggish? Totally.
Illegal? Not in any way. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32fyi it is legal, dumbass.
learn what a private school is before even making another pointless submission - NiGHTSChao, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26Myspace sucks (IMO)
but still that is more of a parent-to-child issue, rather then school-to-child one - thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27you go to a private school, you agree to their rules.
next.. - toppgun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23here is the deal. I go to a private school and in the beginning of the year, in order for them to invite us back, we sign a contract that says we will follow the school rules both on campus and at home. We are supposed to represent the school and they want us to project it in a good light. I 'technically' am not allowed to drink at home or use drugs even when not on school time. I agreed to it and so did everyone else. Im sure those kids signed the same thing or something like it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Because now kids are going to want to use MySpace more. LAWL REBELS WITHOUT A CAUSE LAWL.
- schoate09, on 10/12/2007, -13/+28POTTERSQUASH
Wrong, students may not be equal, but a legal site outside of school, where the students are not breaking the law, does not allow the school to have say in it, period. The school really has no legal binding of what goes on outside of school. - jfarquhar, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Direct link: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070323/SCHOOLS/703230383/1026
- emanl, on 10/12/2007, -11/+24@Rooster99
Actually private school teachers don't get to leave work at work. My wife is a private school teacher, and every single night she's talking to students and parents on the phone, not to mention all the grading she has to do at home.
This is a private school. They are trying to keep the kids safe. If you don't like how they're doing it, no one is forcing you to send your kids there. - demortes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13It wasn't a quote word for word... it was the opinion of the writer inserted into it....
- djspike, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14....and this is a bad thing because.......
- DeusNova, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Haha, all schools should do this. =D
- imakethenews, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16I'm originally from Detroit, and I had friends growing up who went to St. Hugo's. I can tell you, it is ridiculously expensive to go to school there, and they can definitely afford to monitor myspace to find these kids. Also, since it is a PRIVATE school, they can create ANY criteria they want to refuse service to students.
No laws are being broken, no kids are getting a worse education, and, when you think about it, do these kids really need to be wasting their time on social websites like myspace, or would their time be better spent developing real social skills with real people? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11The kids aren't signing a contract, the terms of membership to the school does apply to them and their parents, and it says that a MySpace page will get you expelled from the private school.
It's totally legal, but hey. You've watched Law & Order, you're the expert on what is and what isn't legal. - AmishRefugee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10i go to a private school and for a while they wanted to ban facebook no matter where you were, but they gave in to the hundreds of students endlessly bitching about how they think they should have it.
oh and when did pedo bear get involved in this issue? - sambo357, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11A better policy would be to EDUCATE the children about what is appropriate and what is not on MySpace, and teach them HTML instead of cursive for gods sake.
- CarlosReyes, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14"I absolutely, unequivocally agree," said Walle, who has a fourth-grader and an eighth-grader at the school. "My children have never had a Myspace page. There's too much out there."
Grow a ***** Backbone... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Kick them all out and accept the other people who have parents that would be willing to do almost anything to get them in there?
Oh, and to all you people saying that private schooled kids are rich and spoiled.. I know tons of middle-class kids who go to private school. Just because your parents are willing to pay good money to get you an education that is actually WORTH something doesn't mean you're spoiled. Maybe getting rid of public school and only having private schools we'll fix the problem of the "lawl ur funi" comments on YouTube and Digg.... - IMustBeEmo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8That article sucks. It doesn't have the picture.
- Rikushix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I don't understand these schools that try to police student's computer use at their own home. It boggles the mind. The only thing that schools should be concerned about at all relating to internet use at home is cyberbullying, if a student is bullying another student over msn or email or something similar.
- Crashwithuhk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@Lyph4
Going to Catholic school != Catholic students. I went to a Catholic High school (even though I'm atheist) because it was one of the few safe schools that could provide a good education in the area that I lived. Don't assume that everyone who goes is a practicing Catholic. In fact most of the people I know who went there weren't.
Anyway the school is in the green when it comes to being able to make this rule, but that doesn't make it any less of a stupid rule. I mean I personally can't stand MySpace but I also don't like the idea of the school trying to make you follow these regulations at home. I remember when our school tried to stop kids from smoking outside the dinner a block away by sending teachers to give detention after school. Guess what happened? The students went an extra block further. Likewise these students will just find another social networking site that the school isn't checking and the rule will end up totally useless and ineffective. - 13B1303, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6So what happens if students set up Myspace pages of people they don't like? Who's to say that the profile is really that persons page?
- trentasaurus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7sheesh, you guys sound like commies. it's a private school, they can do what they want. If the kids hate it then they should tell their parents to go complain to the school.
"i don't like this policy, so i'm going to take my kid somewhere else."
Let's be adults, this is how it works in a free market, open and voluntary. Just because a particular school has a policy you don't like, you don't need to scream "sue them!!!" or "OMG THAT"S ILLEGAL"
You shop somewhere else. - 13B1303, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7*****, I know people that went to private school that were damn close to poverty. Most private schools have programs that will wave tuition for a less fortunate family.
Those evil catholics what will they do next, charity! oh the humanity.... - MScrip, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6So... what if a kid gets his own domain and website? Web hosting is cheap!
"Therefore, it is the RULE of St. Hugo School that NO ENROLLED STUDENT SHALL have a “myspace.com” webpage or any similar type personal internet site."
Oops, no personal sites either. I guess you can't express yourself until you are 18.
I know they are doing this for safety reasons. But, a child would more likely get kidnapped while walking down the street than cyber-napped. MySpace, Xanga and other blog type websites are passive. You look at stuff and write messages, and wait. What about IM and chatrooms? That is truly interactive. You are chatting with someone in real time. Is the school gonna monitor AIM traffic for all of its students? What about e-mail? You can send offensive messages or pictures use inappropriate language to harass, insult or attack others. Myspace is not the only place kids and engage in inappropriate behavior. Internet predators? I'd be more worried about neighborhood predators!
"Sorry Sally... you can't have a blog... it's for your own safety!" - CthulhuDawn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This reminds me of my private high school. Teachers would create MySpace pages to see what we were up to, and we could actually get in trouble if they found anything like drinking. We all set our profiles to private, but damn, still.
- McTendo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I wouldn't talk about parents, sounds like you didn't have any growing up.
- adidos, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7“I never let schooling interfere with my education.” -Mark Twain
- Paal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5wow... somebody on digg who actually understands what ACTUAL freedom is -- it's nice to know that some people understand that real freedom means that BOTH sides have a choice!
- daleksarewimps, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I go to a private high school, and they tried to the same ***** last year. Our dean ordered us to take them down cuz people were posting pics of themselves getting wasted and high. Only recently did my school shed its image as a party school (new principle with a no ***** attitude) and they didnt want the reputation coming back. After 4 months of seeing the same people in detention for "myspace violations" he got fed up with it and changed the school policy for this year. Now we can have myspace accounts as long as its a private profile and we have to add his account to our friends list. Now the dean pretty much doesnt care. You'll still get in trouble if you still post pics of yourself being stupid, but those kids deserve the punishment cuz they know the dean can see the pics. And that happens rarely. Maybe only once this year.
Rules like "NO MYSPACE AT ALL" are ***** because
1. kids will still have them, all they gotta do is change the pic, HTML, and name
2. wastes time
3. creates unnecessary fighting between students and school
4. detentions dont stop kids - Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13the school is just preparing them for the real world by the time they grow into it, heavy regulations and censoring
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6It can't be legal? Why not? Because the private school takes no tax funds, it can do exactly this. They set up rules, just like a corporation, and if you don't follow them, they can "fire" you.
- NiGHTSChao, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4School would say: "Yay it worked!"
- ibjhb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I haven't read the article, but private school kids' parents sign a document saying they will abide by the rules. Therefore, as much as everybody thinks they are an attorney, the school IS allowed to do this because a document has been signed. The kids can go to another school if they don't like the decision.
- l4wl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"This is MADNESS!"
"No, THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAA, NEW JERSEY!" - quantumHobbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ lymph
1) Its not a church rule. It's a school rule.
2) Invisible men WTF? - iTacoMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Myspace sucks, and should be blocked from the Intnernet anyways.
- jolionessness, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3couldn't you just make a fake myspace page of someone you didn't like and get them expelled?
- elitexero, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Good. Myspace is crap
- CaseyThr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I had to research censorship a few months ago and I read an article about a school who forced it's athletes to remove all weblogs myspace, xanga and facebook. They said this was because it reflected badly on the school, but that doesn't make sense, how many times have you seen a 'such and such high school rules' group on facebook, how many times has someone found out about school activities and games though facebook? I guess if the kids put certain things on these sites they might not be eligible for some scholarships or they might not be allowed to go to some colleges but why would the high school care?
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