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- nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -4/+123Yeah, if you fraudulently invite people to do something which would be a crime without an invitation, do the police really think that's okay?!
BTW, my name is William Gates. If you want to take one of the cars out of my garage at:
1835 73rd Ave NE, Medina, WA 98039
You can keep it for free. There are some nice Porsches, so come soon! - elhaf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+69What a shock to find your house torn to pieces by internet zombies.
- Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -3/+66The real WTF:
"Officials at Craigslist say they need a subpoena or search warrant to release information about who posted the ad. Tacoma Police say they are not going to request those documents.
Police also say even if they knew who took items from the home, most would likely not face criminal charges."
I'll keep that in mind the next time someone claiming to be someone else asks me to kill them. Hey, as long they say that I can do it, it isn't illegal, right? There's no way this falls under plausable deniability... - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+60How is craigslist to blame for this? If the guy posted it on a real bulletin board somewhere, would you blame the bulletin board?
Oh wait, this is America, it's always the inanimate object's fault. - catfish182, on 10/12/2007, -3/+56/gets a pen and opens up google maps.
Road trip!! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+44Um, dude.. I think your tin foil hat may have fallen off.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21From the article, it didn't seem that the owner of the house in question actually lived in it--she was renting it out to her sister, whom she evicted just before the burglary. The owner should've changed the locks on the assumption that the sister made duplicates of the house keys, but I guess one doesn't usually foresee things like this happening.
- 1337Dude, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23I hate to be Captain Obvious here, but.........WTF!!!!
" The sibling rivalry is one of the reasons Tacoma Police are not looking at this as a criminal case. They say it's a civil matter."
How in the world is this not both a civil and criminal manner. She was evicted, whether she was related or not is irrelevant. If I lived in an apartment, was evicted, and invited people to come over and vandalize the apartment, I'm pretty sure that I could be in a hell of a lot of trouble.
So, just to recap. A crime was committed, there is no evidence to say who did it, and by that I mean posted the ad on craigslist. The police know how to find the information, but aren't going after it because they think it is a civil matter, even though there is not an abundance of evidence to the contrary.
Remind me to commit a crime in Tacoma the next time I am there.
If I am completely off base on this please point out the law that says this case is a civil matter and not also a criminal matter. - uptown, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19...so about that air conditioner.
- encephlavator, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19I hope they catch those tards. Here's a direct link to the video.
http://www.king5.com/video/index.html?nvid=133497&shu=1 - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Right on the water...nice
- escheriv, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/burglarize
- catalysis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14They should go and arrest everyone who took things from the house. Who the hell walks into someone's house and starts taking valuables when they aren't there, even if there is an ad? Something is not right about this whole story.
- Netmindstorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12"... When Raye contacted Craigslist, she received an email back saying they can't release information about who posted the ad without a subpoena or search warrant. "
This should be interesting. Clearly damage was done as a result of the craiglist posting so could a search warrant be executed to find the poster? - insomniac8400, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I guess that is why it is important to lock your doors. If the ad says the doors are unlocked and people show up and it's locked they most likely won't break in, and if they did as least it would be a crime that plice could investigate.
- Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Likely, but the police aren't pursuing a subpoena.
- ophilye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Here's a better suggestion: Post on that same craigslist that the whole thing was a hoax perpetrated by someone bad. Offer complete anonymity if they would like to return it all. Take pics of the family in their house with nothing now.
I'm betting at least some people will give it back. - BowieX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Sorry. I couldn't resist. Is there *actually* a logical explanation as to why "Craistlist" was not spotted by this submitter?
- ophilye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Weird... This is evidently in the same "local" area as the 30 year old woman that presented herself as a 17 year old boy.
- Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10As a lawyer friend once told me...
If a bum pushes you down in a McDonalds... You don't sue the bum.
That said, craigslist could help here by offering up who posted this message so that the person who owns the house can get some due process - MeThePeople, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10it accualy does sound like a good scam. evict someone (scapegoat), trash the place (the more original the better), cash in.
all you need to do is hop on and unprotected wifi signal, create a email account, and post the add. how can it be connected back to you? - irregardless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7craigslist has already been sued for this type of thing before. Courts dismissed the case, basically saying that craigslist is not responsible for what users post.
- nicepants, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Real Craigslist ad, phony "Craistlist" ad
- StephanieBamBam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I can totally see how this has happened. I've done a fairly similar thing with craig's list - while I didn't put in the ad itself 'come by and take whatever you want,' I did tell people who responded to my ad to just show up and take stuff. I'd already moved out of the apartment and didn't really care to hang around waiting for people to take my trunk, futon, and the other random stuff I was giving away. So I just left the door open, came back a day later, and everything was gone.
Worked perfectly for me, and much cheaper than paying someone to haul the stuff away. - lunasunshine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7clean the junk out? did you even RTA? watch the video please and come back with a more intelligent comment.
- LordZodd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Adds one more reason not to do business with family members,especially if you live in Tacoma!
- davdev, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Craigslist is a great place to pull pranks. I have put ads in the "Erotic Services" section with my friends phone number and they couldn't understand why they were getting calls for all these weird dudes asking how much for a bj.
- hazygin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Bet the first guy in there was like w00t l00t! harsh way to get revenge though, wonder what really happened between the two people.
- sourmashno7, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11I think its kinda messed up that the tennant they she evicted was her sister. Now that definately puts the 'FUN' in dysfunctional!!
- KDX200rider, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@1337Dude
You are right on the money. Just because the sister is the main suspect, should have no bearing on whether the police get involved. - silentwinter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This legal grey area won't last long. I think it's ridiculous that the police aren't doing anything.
- Speciou5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I wonder if the looters are going to post missed connections now:
"Our eyes met for a second as I was taking apart the sink. I helped you unscrew the lightbulbs since you were too short. I think we have chemistry, e-mail me the first thing you looted if you want to get a coffee." - emiller, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5i guess i should return this water heater and tree air freshner?
- fugitiveALiEN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Hmm... sounds fishy, maybe the sister posted the ad? It's all an insurance scheme! ;)
- ryanknapper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Here in Portland Oregon there was a huge row over the police taking a person's garbage for evidence, the argument being that once it is in the trash and on the street it has no value and is in a public space. That is until a reporter took garbage from the Mayor, the D.A. and the Chief of Police.
So what if the Police Chief here was the next one to have a Craigslist ad?
http://www.ci.portland.or.us/mayor/press5/garbagsta.html - hass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3A few days ago my friends decided it would be funny to post an ad on craig's list for a free air conditioner with my name and phone number. I got a call every 10 seconds for about half an hour. I am glad I was near my phone at the time or I would have a lot of messages to check. The ad was taken down fairly quickly in my case, and it did not invite them to my house to take anything.
- algorythm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't think it would have mattered if the doors were locked or not. Look what happened in New Orleans with the hurricane. Everyone's ***** got stolen. When a crook has an opportunity they will take it.
- jeffalltogether, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4you failed hard
- gingerchris, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I'm fully with you on this, a the house was burgled by a burglar. Not burglarized by a burglarizer. Stop ***** our language up.
- siszam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The dysfunctional part is living in your sisters place then doing something so bad she has to evict you. I'm sure she has a good reason to evict her.
- brickne3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Good timing on this story. I work at an information desk with a postable bulletin board and I got threatened by some guy who lost $8,000 from responding to an ad. He was irate, just screaming about how he didn't care where it came from but he was going to get his money back from SOMEONE. My boss politely told him that we do the board as a public service, we don't screen the ads, and he should ask the police what he should do. The guy replied that he was going to "come back with a ***** lawyer then."
On the one hand, I can see being angry at having lost $8,000. On the other hand, anyone who responds to an ad like that and actually PUTS UP $8,000 for whatever he bought is probably an idiot. He definitely came off as one. Most of these scams I see are so obviously scams that I can't pity the people that fall for them. Identity theft is one thing, but it's pretty damned easy to spot a pyramid scheme or an email from Nigeria.
So anyway, if you see an ad like this, at least make sure the people are HOME while you loot. Otherwise it's just irresponsible. Question everything. - ryanknapper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Of course I find a direct link after I post...
http://www.wweek.com/editorial/2909/3507/ - holyskeleton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3LOL
- CarLBanks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is just messed up!
- Doriath, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2He's a dick?
- d34f, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What better way to get rid of your crap and you don't have to haul it anywhere, the cl zombies did it for me. I think taking the fixtures was a bit much though.
I wonder if the fixtures showed up later, for sale, $5, recently inherited from evicted tenant, in slightly ripped from the wall condition. - aogail, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2When my neighbors moved out, that's exactly what they did. Granted, they didn't post an ad on craigslist; rather, they told their friends. Quite a few people went through the place, myself included. We tore the place apart, and had a damn good time doing so.
- alecks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4it's unlikely he'd say w00t l00t.... he may say "Wow, Loot"... which is the origin of w00t...
- audiowizard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah thats my b) guy.....the OWNER == LANDLORD
- chetanw, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Haven't these people heard of door locks?
Honestly, this is the crappiest thing I ever read. Someone posts an ad on Craigslist and says "Come and take what you want" and the door's left open? -
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