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- monarch00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20Took long enough.
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16I never got that "never stop" thing. I mean, wouldn't she had to have filled up on gasoline at some point?
- jimripper, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21She should auction the diaper she wore on Ebay.
- therodersabides, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13First she has to clear them out of her desk.
- Future2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13"She should auction the diaper she wore on Ebay."
I know you were just joking, but I heard that the cops had to keep the diaper as evidence. What a ***** day, you get charged with kidnapping and Exhibit A is one of your soiled diapers. - mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Yeah, because if they didn't, that would be like... bad, and stuff.
- dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13How much do you plan on paying for it if she does?
- oskite, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Yeah, talk about glorification. Would a simple 'NASA fires Lisa Nowak' not suffice?
- rluecke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"She wore an astronaut diaper so that she would not have to stop during her 900-mile trip"
Seriously insane. Bet she had enough Tang and Astronaut Ice Cream to last even longer.
Related: a cool astronaut clip: http://www.vidaday.com/funny/water-spheres-in-space/ - briangig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7seriously...i thought she was fire as soon as it happend.
- thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Oh, I thought she was fired about 3 days after this blew up.
- rudy23, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Lisa Novak Cleared for take off
- rudy23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5self promotion you mean
- gen2ux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5She really thinks she gonna go 900 miles without having to stop for gas?
"Let me just put this diaper on.....aaahhhh...there, now I'm all good!" - cwshea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You mean she wasn't already?
- Humptydank, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3
This is depressing. This woman gets into a diaper and tries to kill somebody, and it takes NASA a month to figure out whether they should fire her. Yet it only takes Taco Bell six days to figure out that they should fire me, and I only mildly burned a few people and never once wore a diaper to work.
I'm going to go work for NASA. - jatkins679, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Believe me, NASA wants nothing to do with her after what she did. I interned at NASA, you can bet that they couldn't wait to see her go.
But NASA's out is simple: she is a Navy officer. She is technically employed by the Navy and that's that. NASA does not pay astronauts who hold military commissions, the military pays them.
Her biggest worry right now has to be jail time. If she can avoid that, then a lot of her Navy problems will probably go away... aside from ending her naval career quickly. The Navy won't jail her, they will just revoke her commission and let her retire (she has more than 20 years in, so her pension is safe).
If a Navy commander can get off with just revoking his commission after he killed half-a-dozen Japanese schoolkids with his sub, then Nowak isn't going to go to jail herself. No way. - geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2And in that case, it shows he was able to be with many women and still not let it get to the point where he was too attached and it boiled over. She couldn't help but get attached and wonder why he would be with someone else. She wanted a new family with him for whatever reason, and at whatever costs. Which is why men can be with many women without much thought while the opposite is not the case.
- RogerStrong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Anyone else who's trained on it. This was probably Novak's last flight anyway; there's only a small number of shuttle flights left, and too many astronauts competing for them.
- corywingerter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@dclowd9901, gen2ux (below)
She would definitely have to stop for gasoline, but the diaper would make it so she wouldn't have to go to a restroom to use the bathroom. Some people think that she did this to avoid being on any indoor security cameras that could of easily identified her (even though most gas stations have cameras aimed at the car's license plate, which could have identified her anyway). - ringlord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ geronimo
wtf. That was not for her husband or her children. She was having an affair with some other NASA dude and was doing all this to try and preserve her relationship with him. If anything, her actions were harming her husband and children since she was so wrapped up in this other guy (who was already married himself and having affairs with two women, apparently!) - jatkins679, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2She's so, so farked. She loses her detail, one that so so many people dream of getting. And she's going to probably lose her commission. She's definitely not going to make admiral now. She's probably going to have to mend a lot of fences with her kids. And she's probably going to go to jail.
I hope that guy was worth it for her.
And he seems like a scumbag himself. A real work of art. - pixelate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2what?
and, uh, who's going to arm the Canadian man now? - ReTardis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1NASA should keep her. Let her fly in space. But.. make it a reality show broadcast 24/7. I know I'll be on my seat watching and just waiting for her to go off..
- kaiser44, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Any body who would equate this with being a woman thing is ***** up,
I am a man, and joked about it, This is a personality thing, could have just as easily been a man. - rowlodge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1mark my words!....there's a movie coming, and they'll make her look like a hero.
- RogerStrong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1NASA wouldn't fire them. They'd simply never be given another flight assignment, as John Young found out after criticizing NASA after the Challenger disaster. I think he was still on flight status for close to 20 years after that, until he retired.
It may be that if NASA decides that Oefelein did nothing whatsoever wrong, he still may never fly again. Even if it were ten years later, the press will dredge this story up and it would dominate the press coverage of the mission. NASA would prefer to avoid that, so they simply won't give him a flight assignment. - StellarlyAstral, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think this is what's going to put her over the edge.
- jayh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2God damnit, would someone pay Donald Trump?
- 4degrees, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2seems odd that they fire her but not the other two. I believe that getting romantically involved with a coworker/boss is a conflict of interest and is grounds for dismissal. I think they should have fired all three of the weirdos.
clearly cosmic rays are dangerous for the psyche. - directive0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1DONT MISTAKE ME, I don't think this incident is at all indicative of female behavior. Only how easily the stigma of "crazy women" will be attached to Female astronauts by a stereotyping public. It sucks, thats all.
- TexanPsycho, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Bad mugshot.
- pauleku, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Do astronauts really do anything anyway? You never hear about them. Only when a lauch has been delayed.
Dont you think its funny that they are hoping to go back to the moon in 20 years? How can it possibly take that long? They already know how to do it right?
We need more leaps with space flight technology and colonizations. Otherwise, whats the damn point of having NASA.
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(not a conspiracy theorist) - discochew, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1She was shocked to find out Nasa frowned at that sort of thing
- ngmcs8203, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Only if it is stated as "grounds for dismissal" by your employer. Otherwise my wife and I, and many other married couples would have been fired long ago.
- kaiser44, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1she is hot , I dig chicks with passion.
- RogerStrong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1> Dont you think its funny that they are hoping to go back to
> the moon in 20 years? How can it possibly take that long?
To start, a much smaller budget than last time.
Second, the primary mission isn't to get to the moon - it's to keep the standing army of Shuttle-related staff employed. While NASA could get to the moon faster and cheaper using existing launchers instead of building new ones, Congress would never approve a plan that involves massive layoffs.
> We need more leaps with space flight technology and colonizations.
> Otherwise, whats the damn point of having NASA.
Ask congress. They approve NASA's budget line item by line item. In the 80's and 90's they learned not to submit any plan that even smelled of being a stepping stone to a manned moon or Mars mission, because Congress would cut it. - jatkins679, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Officers do not 'retire', they resign their commission and the resignation has to be accepted. But the military can refuse the resignation or even call you back to active duty if you have already resigned.
The Navy certainly will not let her resign her commission until some very basic questions are answered... like resolution of the criminal charges against her. After that, the Navy can (and probably will) seek to charge her with conduct unbecoming an officer and the like. But the kidnapping/assault charges aren't up to the Navy to prosecute, that's up to others.
What will probably happen in the end is that she will simply be allowed to resign her commission but possibly at the pay/benefits of a lower rank (say, if she were just promoted to captain). Even if that doesn't happen, her Navy career is over. She will obviously not make flag officer; once she is formally passed over for that, the writing is on the wall (like it is for any O-6 who doesn't make O-7): move on. - JimNtexas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If Captain Nowak is retirement eligible then I'm sure she's put in her papers already. I suspect that the Navy won't let her retire until it decides if she needs a courts-martial.
treoinmypocket, even the military gets due process and an assumption of innocence. In any case the military has no power to stop a civilian prosecution. Captain Nowak can't be prosecuted twice for the same offense, so I suspect the Navy will let the civil authorities handle the attempted murder/kidnapping charges.
What I've seen happen in cases like this is that the military member is found guilty of conduct unbecoming, fined all pay and allowances, discharged, and turned over to the custody of the civil authorities. - Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why can't I get female rocket scientists to fight over me?
I digg smart crazy geek girls. - 4degrees, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ngmcs8203
depends on if you met your wife before yall started working there. most companies frown on getting involved with co-workers. - mutwirik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No work for Nowak
- Caulfield, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1you'd still hit that.
- brnews, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1NASA should do its own reality show, presented by Donald Trump on a space suit..
- latino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it was like DUH she got fired, what did you expect a promotion ?
- jimripper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Consider your words marked. And I'd be willing to bet that you're absolutely wrong.
- trailblazerone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0She got what she deserved..chasing after a man that didn't belong to her. Being married doesn't mean anything anymore. I'm sure this wasn't the first time something like this has happened.
- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Women have evolved an emotional switch which has preserved our species. If there was famine, a man might just ditch his children, but women, with a strong emotional attachment to family members, don't allow this to happen. They do anything for the family. Literally anything, like drive across the country 900 miles with a diaper and duct tape in order to preserve the family. The most sanest woman in the world is capable of going into that temporary insane mode and I think every woman has had at least one experience where they became a stalker, wondering why they were ditched, driving past his house, maybe leaving a note, showing up at his door late at night, throwing herself at him. You can view her as crazy and in need of medication or you can view her as very extremely committed to her husband and children.
- MeanGeno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0OUCH!!!
What kind of idiot travels 900 miles in a diaper? Yeah, VEEEEEEERY smart to loose your career over "love". VEEEEEEEEEEEERY mature. Jennifer Wilbanks (the runaway bride, bugeyed freak) thinks you over the top. - HappyMax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's not fair. She said she only wanted to talk to that other woman.
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