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- VAPerson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+175Where were the parents when their kids were online and then meeting these people? Who bought the computers and then let their kids use them without being monitored? Suits like this make me sick.
U.S. Parenting 101 - its always someone else's fault when the parent does a crappy job. - sicc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+62Waaa, I'm a ***** parent, gimme money. Gimme a ***** break with this ***** already.
- Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32"blocked by nothing"
What high school do you go to? It seems the majority of you young'ns come into digg and complain about how your school blocks everything. I bet half the kids that frequent this site would give an arm and a leg to go to your school and research WoW tactics during "intro to typing" or whatever lame computer classes they have now. - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Why take responsibility when you can blame others, right?
- RockMyMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Exactly. Where were the parents. I know a friends kid who was approached online through MySpace and because they don't expect the world to watch their kid, the guy was stopped. It doesn't take a village. It takes parents who spend their time with something other then the latest episodes of American Idol & desperate Housewives.
- Shirk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Why should they block access to MySpace in libraries? It's the parents fault for not teaching their children about meeting with strangers.
- sjbdallas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20While they're suing myspace, maybe they should sue the internet provider, whomever provided transportation to these locations they were lured to, and the manufacturers of the alcohol that was forced on the girls. Seems like all those folks contributed to the assault of their kids as long as they're blaming everyone but themselves.
- raynar, on 10/12/2007, -12/+30I hope MySpace survives. So I can find me some bitches to assault.
- keegan3d, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17I too dislike myspace, but I dislike neglectful parents who blame their problems on everyone else more.
- TinMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Here is an Idea.... Pay attention to what YOUR children are doing...
- PleaseJustDie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Even so, the parents should be involved. My Brother-in-Law suspected my niece was on myspace after they had told her she was not allowed to have a myspace page and he essentially played the "I know what you've been doing" game and got her to confess to it to my sister. So even if parents don't have control over them 24/7 they still need to be aware and need to have a roll in being responsible and protecting their children.
- drunkentoad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Oh come on !! Tom has over 120 million friends, of course he's gonna hook up with some 15 year olds at some stage.
- HP844182, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14It's not MySpace's fault your daughter is an idiot/slut.
- RyeBrye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12@iamcitizen
I take it you don't visit Google much? Google has over 70 validation errors on their main page: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.google.com
I don't like sites that don't validate either - but I don't see any correlation between validation errors and likelihood of being sexually molested. - RawShark, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Parenting is a lost art.
Know your children. Watch your children. Know where they are. Know who their friends are. Not doing so is parental negligence.
Don't expect the government and corporations to keep an eye on them and parent by proxy for you. - rtakach, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11so is it a violation of privacy if your parents search your room? what if they're just cleaning your room and they find dope? did they violate your privacy??
i mean, it's THEIR house, it's THEIR computer, and until that kid is 18 he/she pretty much has no real expectation of privacy from parents - raynar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9That was me. Sorry.
Coffee later? I'll buy. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9lol wtf is this bs? Watch over your kids and do your job as a parent. Stop depending on companies and the gov't, its not their job.
- jhardin80, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Ok, so let's get this straight. I have a three year old daughter, and like all kids she will put just about anything into her mouth and try to eat it, now even if the package doesn't have a chock warning on it I (not the rest of the world) am responsible to keep an eye on her and make sure she doesn't put anything in her mouth that she can choke on. Even if she does choke on something i am not going to go out and sue the damn company because it is not their fault i wasn't watching MY daughter. So tell me why is it that parents think that the courts should take care of the responsibilities of the parents when THEIR kid who probably should be at home in the first place go out and meet someone from the Internet? Are you going to sue yahoo chat rooms, camfrog and the other places on the net that allow others to talk to each other, because i can promise you it is happening there too. Parents get a hold of YOUR OWN children and take responsibility for them yourself and stop blaming every damn thing on companies that are trying to make some money. It sounds to me like some of these people want to sue just because they didn't come up with the idea to create MYSPACE themselves.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8holy *****.... ouch!
- pyrotherm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Ok, this is severely retarded, it stated that all of these girls were "lured to a meeting" with the guys, this means they had to GO somewhere to meet them, If they parents knew anything about their kids, they would know that dropping them off somewhere without seeing that their Friends were there, is a bad idea. In reality though, it all boils down to education, the parents should have outlined the dangers of meeting random strangers off of the Internet.
- Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -16/+23No sympathy for anyone with a myspace account. None.
This is how bad it's gotten. A gross violation of a minor, and I don't even care because it involved myspace. Obviously myspace does not allow people to connect in the way it was intended if they cannot learn that their "friends" are pedophiles and rapists. It's a heap of bad programming, brain numbing blogs, and embedded youtube and dailymotion videos.
"But it's not that bad! I'm 35 and able to connect with some old classmates and catch up on old times!"
Stop living in high school and play with your kid. If your friends lost touch with you, it was probably for a good reason. - hiPpymIck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6shamelessly donuting a Dugg up comment, but it is relevant. loads of short free email parenting courses -check it out http://parentingteens.about.com/
New York Times site - Silt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@gstuartj
There is no violation of privacy if they are keylogging their "daughter's computer". Parents paid for the house, the room, the computer, etc....they can do anything they want. Not sure where kids today think their "privacy is being violated". You start paying the bills, then you can have some privacy. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6haha These parents want corporations to do the parenting for them?
- HP844182, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It's not MySpace's fault that the people using it suck. Granted the website itself is a load of programming crap but the idea behind it really isn't that bad. It's just that people are idiots.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5There's nothing "morally" wrong against it. In return for an account she agreed to never give out identifying information about herself, he has to confirm that she keeps her part of the bargain. It's exactly what rtakach said. His computer, his internet, his house, she's a minor.
Broomett fvck off and die. Say that to my face you stupid POS. Obviously you're not a parent. You're just defending the sexual predators out there. Its only that society has gotten so lax on parental responsibility that a person could consider a child's privacy violated by parents monitoring what their kids post on the internet where there is no guarantee for privacy. - Hetman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Its the parents fault. If they werent meeting on my space it would be another social networking site. I dont want my space to be monitored. Sorry if you can explain to your children that meeting up with strangers is a bad idea you shouldnt be having children. unFortunatly for the human race any idiot can have a kid.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5*****, sue the schools if anyone because apparently people are not getting any education anymore, these girls were ***** dumbasses
- PdxPhoenix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It's all about what I call "the culture of victimization."
I'm not responsible for the harm I do ("I'm a victim of my upbringing, genetics, socio-economic status, etc.) or the harm done to me through my own stupidity; BUT I can benefit from your part in my harm, or I can benefit from the harm some third party does to you, if I can claim that it harmed me too in some way.
What a crock. - 13thfloor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It's the user not the website. A loaded handgun is safe if nobody handles it improperly. But put it in the hands of an idiot and someone will get hurt. The website was not designed to be used as a source to molest children. The person at fault is the person using it improperly. Sue them. Oh that's right, they don't have the deepest pockets.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4We all know that crimes like this never occurred before MySpace...
- xinit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think that the parents are limiting the scope of responsibility here.
How did the girls get to these meetings? City bus? Sue the City.
Where were the meetings? Restaurant? Sue TGIFridays.
What model of computer did the creeps use? Sue Dell.
Web cam? Sue Logitech.
I'm sure that there are more people and companies that could take the responsibility the the kids and the parents should have exercised. - Merrick178, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Err... This is the most ridiculous thing I think I've heard in a good while. The parents are the ones responsible for what they're kids are doing, where they are, and should they be "chatting" on "myspace" the parents should ideally warn their children. Myspace even goes the extra mile of saying "...Don't give out any personal information..." so the way these retarded parents are looking at it is Myspace is responsible, *****.
Watch your ***** kids. Monitor their computer activities. ***** use your brain.
Julie Doe can go ***** herself. Perhaps get her name changed to Jane Doe, like normal unidentified people. Hmmph. - 13thfloor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@ICSU: Off topic, but I got out of Jury Duty for saying that people should take responsibility for their actions even when drunk. It didn't help when I added that more people need to take responsibility for their actions even when sober.
People just want to blame someone else. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I agree that this is a stupid suit, and the parents are partially at fault, but another problem is that high schoolers (and with growing amounts, middle schoolers) are "supposed to" have a MySpace. I get made fun of/get weird looks when people say "What's your MySpace?" and I say "I don't have one..."
My parents don't filter my surfing, monitor my history, etc., I just choose not to visit sites with 266 validation errors on the main page (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://myspace.com), use ASP.NET, and are owned by Rupert Murdoch.
Yes, the parents are partly to blame, but peer pressure does exist in this situation.
Even if parents teach their kids that MySpace is retarded, some kids will still get to it if their friends are idiots. - Silt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+61) Don't do your job as a responsible parent should
2) Something bad happens to your kid because of your lack of parenting
3) Profit - Merrick178, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Oh and I'm suing digg for allowing me to communicate with people via comments. I got raped by a 40 year old black man who commented on "How to cut circumsize youself" He told me he was a girl. I thought "she" was the love of my life. DIGG YOU'RE NEXT.
- lovek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Erik is right. It's NOT morally wrong. It IS disrespectful to his daughter.
As mentioned above, maybe he should actually TALK to her. Give her the benefit of the doubt until she gives him reason not to.
Then maybe a keylogger. - sp1keNARF, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5thread is over. parent's fault. move along.
- darkecho, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Why should it be the fault of MySpace. If I called someone on the phone to setup a meeting and that sort of thing happened, it would be equal to me suing the phone company. These are just some money hungry people who are exploiting their daughter(s) through the news hoping to get a few million dollars. I hate MySpace just as much as the next Digger, but this stuff is just retarded.
The parents, kids, and pedo's who do this stuff are the only ones at fault. The pedo's for obvious reason.. The parents and the kid fall into the category as retarded especially as "MySpace is dangerous blahblahblah" that has been on the news several times. Its a wonder how natural selection has not set in on them. Parents, if you want your kids on the internet know what they are doing (ctrl-h for the less smarter kids) and talk to them and mention that you will probably be raped if you meet a person from MySpace. For the kids: YOUR A ***** MORON... - sdub74, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3As soon as News Corp bought out MySpace, I've been waiting for this lawsuit since there's some money to chase now. I don't think that MySpace is to blame here, sexual predators have been looking for naive minors online since the invention of the chat room. If you want to sue someone, sue Al Gore for inventing the internet to begin with.
Unfortunately, there's no way to stop perverts from contacting children online. MySpace can put in all the age-verification and parental-notification controls they want, and it won't stop. The best that we can hope for is that parents are more active in their children's lives (something that is increasingly difficult as real estate and living expenses continue to escalate, and dual income households and latchkey kids are becoming more common) and teach them that they shouldn't be meeting people from the internet, or if they are going to, teach them a safe way to go about it (going with friends, meeting at a public place, ect).
I do agree that these lawsuits are a cop-out for ***** parenting because the parents of these girls probably have no idea who their friends are, who they are talking to online, and who they are meeting with. These girls are 14 and 15 years old, someone had to take them to the mall, the parents should know who their daughters are meeting with. - hiPpymIck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3if they dont want to talk to You (remember what it was like?)
encourage them to have friends at school who they Will talk to about online stuff
collectively young ppl are pretty savvy IMHO - chance2002iu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3couldn't have put any it better myself except to add that those kids should be spayed/neutered so that they don't contaminate society by perpetuating their parents idiocy and bad upbringing. very much agreed. natural selection and all that.
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though to some extent, I can see where you're coming from and on a more bitter day, even agree with you. - orbit1979, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The real issue here is not just bad parenting, I agree kids try to get away with ***** all the time. There bound to get away now and again. But when their kids ***** up, and slip past the parents, how is it anybody else's fault?
I'll never forget the time when I was working at a restaurant. These parents brought their wild kids and they let them run around the dinning area as they pleased. I was running heavy trays to the kitchen when one of the little kids almost ran right into me while running around the dinning room. I almost drop the heavy trays on him. When the parents finally paid attention to the situation, they told ME to watch were I'm going and continued to let their kids run around unsupervised.....Un-***** believable! - seether166, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So because the layout of MySpace is admittedly atrocious, you think it should be sued unjustly? It's not a problem with MySpace, it's a problem with parent's not educating their kids and taking an active role in their lives. And yeah, I'm 28 and I like that I've found some people from high school I lost touch with. I'm guessing maybe you're one of those misanthropic people I'm GLAD I lost touch with?
- LogicBomB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think it would be absolutely hilarious if the judge ordered all families to take a manditory "protecting your children in the internet age" parenting course. I bet not a single one of these parents believe they might be the reason for their child's rape.
The problem is computers in children's bedrooms - it's excrutiatingly common. Put your computer in the common area and install a keylogger or other monitoring tool and review it regularly until you believe your child is old enough to "get it". - wombat767, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Am i the only one who thinks this is ridiculous? I do think that myspace can be a dangerous place, for the young, naive, and people who can't handle porn. But, that doesn't mean that myspace is responsible. The responsible party is the parent who didn't take the time to be parents and let their kids roam the internet. Of course they can find bad things on the internet. That would be like suing applebees if your 12 year old daughter goes on a date with a 40 year old man. They don't know, but you should have and you should have not let that hapen.
- DigginTuesday, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I agree completely. If you let your child go to a public park and they were attacked could you sue the county? Certainly, if the aggressor had been released without due process, i.e. early, or without a proper assessment of their danger to society, but not just because they were there.
Currently even convicted paedophiles can illegally register, the information to identify them is not available (That's a whole other debate that I won't touch with a stick). How do you prevent those with no criminal record?
This is not a MySpace issue, this is a societal issue.
Edit: And a large part of that is good parenting. Not entirely, but certainly a large part. - contradictator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not a bad idea putting that parenting link up, god knows it could've helped the mothers and fathers of these kids.
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