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- omnirusa, on 10/11/2007, -15/+238BBC Is just what america needs.
Media that tells you whats going on, how its going on, without telling you what to believe about whats going on.
I lived in england for 1.5 years, and BBC is outstanding media. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -11/+116Publicly subsidised mainly. We all pay our TV licence so that this corporation can operate. Truly the best network in the world and it's clear that you're from the US as you have no faith in the media whatsoever.
- pygar, on 10/11/2007, -8/+106BBC isn't a monopoly. And it has no commercial advertising.
- Paul, on 10/11/2007, -7/+82"state subsidized propaganda machine" that didn't support their own state leader Tony Blair... hmmm not a very well oiled machine i guess.
- Gadren, on 10/11/2007, -5/+79Isn't it interesting how BBC News is such a respected organization for its commitment for journalism... while CNN and Fox News are obsessed with Paris Hilton?
I wonder (honestly) if this is because of US vs. British attitudes, or because a state-sponsored channel has a bigger commitment to the public good and is more answerable to the citizenry than the simple pursuit of profit that corporate media brings... - reddevil3, on 10/11/2007, -13/+79Who wants to bet that diggdong is an avid FOX News fan?
- fuzzmeister, on 10/11/2007, -3/+64Listen to NPR sometime. While they do have a slight liberal bias, they are certainly more objective than, say, CNN or Fox.
- agrabob, on 10/11/2007, -2/+63seriously? I was just coming to the comments to post how I thought the last one was the best.
I thought it was pretty obvious, one side shows Bush on TV as an important figurehead, the other side shows a man of middleastern descent with a disgruntled face. Whats there not to get? - Phaedruss, on 10/11/2007, -12/+68Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
- themastersb, on 10/11/2007, -7/+59BBC is awesome.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -3/+35EVERY news source has bias. That's why you can't rely on a single source.. even BBC.
- Electric_Sheep, on 10/11/2007, -3/+26"And how good can the BBC be when the British fell for the same Iraq War propaganda? Someone musta been dishing it out to them."
What do you mean "fell"?, there was NO POPULAR SUPPORT by the public for the iraq war.
Did you not see the record number of protesters ever in london and throughout the country? We didn't vote to go to war, parliament did.
Go fsck yourself. Idiot. The BBC is committed to the public, not the government. - mpcamer, on 10/11/2007, -2/+23Here's what I did:
I took a piece of paper, and covered one side of the monitor so that the left side of all four pictures was all you could see.. I then did the same for the other side. After that, I looked at them as a whole.
It's intriguing what you perceive when getting a biased point of view. - shaidar, on 10/11/2007, -4/+19The BBC is not owned by the Government. Yes, it is paid for via a license fee by the general public, but it also has a comercial aspect as it sells its works across the world. It has been critical of the government and Prime Minister. From what I have seen and heard about american Tv (which is limited), it is far less baised.
- tugger, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18Just to get the facts straight, the BBC isn't state-funded.
It's a corporation funded directly from a licence fee paid by inhabitants of the UK. This fee is paid either by internet, bank transfer or at the post-office, direct to the BBC, not to the government.
The state or govornment is deliberately not allowed to be involved in funding, administration or any form of management.
It's impartiality is constantly monitored by civil and public watchdogs to which the BBC must abide by charter.
RTFM:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/policies/charter/ - tizz66, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15"And how good can the BBC be when the British fell for the same Iraq War propaganda? Someone musta been dishing it out to them."
This is kind of touchy, but I'll try and explain it.
The BBC were not taking the governments word at face value at all. They do their own investigating. When our government made the '45 minute' claim, and others such as 'mobile germ warfare vehicles' were operating in Iraq, the BBC talked to one of their contacts, David Kelly, who was in the Ministry of Defense and a UN weapons inspector, and he completely refuted those claims saying they were implausible. The BBC reported his interview, and gave him anonymity.
Naturally the government were pissed off that they were being shown as a bunch of lying bastards, so they began attempts to discredit the BBC reporter. They dropped hints as to the identity of the source - enough that reporters could figure out who it was. Then the Ministry of Defense confirmed it.
David Kelly committed suicide a month later.
If you think the BBC is in bed with the government, or a propaganda machine, you need to do some research. - saralk, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16If it was a monopoly, there would be no other TV channels in the UK. Sky News still manages to get decent viewing figures, even though it is in exactly the same format as BBC News, just with adverts.
It is funded with public money, but it is definatly in the public interest. The Paralympics wouldn't have been broadcast in the UK if it wasn't for the BBC.
Also, don't forget that Channel 4 and S4C are public service companies, created by an Act of Parliment. ITV and five both have public service obligations. - ninj3, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15Haha the guy above me is just funny.
Blair made a huge mistake and how he's sure as hell paying for it. Leaving end of this month before the next elections.
Now let's examine what the US is doing. hmmm...one of the most unpopular presidents ever...trashed in the polls...ridiculed by the entire world...lied to his government and people...calls for impeachment...ah but you're still stuck with him for another year :) Power to the people indeed.
And just because we love BBC doesn't mean we're British nationalists or something. We do have more than our fair share of tabloid type *****. Reality shows all over TV filled with racist scandal goodness. That's why I don't have a TV licence. All my news comes from the BBC site. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14Or just drag another window over it.
- filmbandit, on 10/11/2007, -3/+16luckily i can afford cable and luckily i can see BBC set everything straight.
stop watching U.S. TV news -- it's a ***** joke. - Tripcast, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13I just wish you guys got Have I Got News For You, you should definitely get it on BT. One of the best Comedy Panel shows on TV, they take the piss out of the news and get away with a lot. Yes, it's got a British new bias, but you'll see what we can get away with over here.
- nubnub, on 10/11/2007, -10/+22BBC ftw
- colsim, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14When did America join the world though? Did I miss a memo? :)
- shaidar, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12Do you mean the article, the BBC or these comments?
So, anything that is critical of america in any way is anti-american? That is a severly limited point of view.
Without criticism you cannot grow and improve yourself. Even if the criticism is wrong, it makes you look inward and assess what they say.
Sometimes it does good to see another perspective, as the world is shades of grey. I do not agree with a lot of things american, but I am not anti-american, but then again I do not agree with things about other countries, including my own (UK). - trogdoor, on 10/11/2007, -13/+22Be honest, NPR has more than a "slight" liberal bias, they don't distort the facts to support it but they are undeniably liberal.
- soccerman90, on 10/11/2007, -9/+18The Daily Show + BBC would be the best thing for America. The Daily Show is one of the only news shows that really speaks the truth and doesnt shy away from showing how dumb the people in our government really are. Also the BBC seems to be very smart and not bias, which is always a good thing
- chuckd, on 10/11/2007, -9/+18I think the last picture is about the dichotomy of a retarded monkey in a box trying to communicate without throwing feces and humanity trying its best to understand it... or something else totally.
- ch1x0r3r, on 10/11/2007, -7/+16People watch FOX news just to get pissed off at it. Who actually thinks Bill O Reilly because it's informative and provides insight?
- Rolled, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12My prediction: They will get horrible ratings. The American populace doesn't want news .. they want Hollywood gossip and party rhetoric that reinforces what they already believe (be it based in reality or not).
The fourth estate is dead in this country. Outsourcing it to another country won't change that. - tizz66, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11Fox News is broadcast here too, and a couple of years ago they came very close to losing their license for falling foul of our news regulations on bias. I don't think some shows, such as Bill O Reilly are shown over here, for that reason.
- tugger, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Any brit will tell you how crap the country really is!! over taxation, rip-off prices, terrible roads, longest working hours in the western world...for lowest average pay in europe, 7 months cloud cover per year, apalling public transport, trashy newspapers, frigid women... the list is endless.
The good side..?? We aren't stuck with Fox, we've got the BBC, we've got the national health system, great music festivals, tasty beer, football (the real version) played properly, and chicken jalfrazi.
If the BBC was crap, we'd be the first to tell you. It isn't, so enjoy! - allywilson, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9"And it has no commercial advertising."
The only way to watch a programme. Cannot stand adverts. So much so that I no longer watch TV. If I wanna watch a prog, I download it - and internet ads are the least of my worries (Adblockplus). - tugger, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8@macsare4losers
1. if your name is indicative, you're a mac user.
2. who can argue with your comment, you are (without question) the biggest prick on digg - trebuchet03, on 10/11/2007, -6/+13@ch1x0r3r
"People watch FOX news just to get pissed off at it. Who actually thinks Bill O Reilly because it's informative and provides insight?"
I don't... But I know of a few people that do... trying to talk with them about what I would have thought of as basic current events... It's like throwing pennies at a wall hoping that one time they will just, by magic, stick. - qwertylicious, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Aunty Beeb? Are you trying to feed the Americans more ways to ridicule us? I never have found faults in BBC news channel, as I only turn on to watch the headlines. You're not meant to watch for hours and hours.
- tizz66, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8It is *not* government owned. The government sets the license fee, but that's IT.
- tizz66, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Oh it's you again. Hi. I remember you from another topic.
The BBC is not owned by anyone but the British public. It has not sold out to anyone because it cannot be sold out. Go and get your facts straight you *****. - neocr0n, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6The BBC gets something like £3 billion a year from public funding. Something like 75% of its revenue. It has an obligation to serve the public not the government. They try their best to bring both sides of the story. Are they completely unbiased? Of course not but they defiantly bring a more balanced story than most. Just as a quick example their public funding is the reason they can't afford exclusive Football rights for the FA Premier League because they have to set out a budget to bring as wide a coverage of live sport as possible since they are public funded and not everyone wants to watch football.
They also challenged the government head on reporting that the ministry of defense had "sexed up" the "September Dossier" to make a case for war. Google the "Hutton Inquiry" to find out more. - bash, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10You can't blame the BBC for reporting what interest the people the most. Besides, the editors don't even place emphasis on those stories; if you follow the front page, the top story is always something non-celeb news i.e. "Hamas 'in full control of Gaza'"
- FunkyLlama, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I should probably point out that in Britain the BBC seems far more centre than in America, simply because America is so conservative - that's the only reason why it's got its liberal reputation.
- Hates, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10@mrassman - "I love the BBC site, but they are more obsessed with celebrities than Fox News is."
I think you're confusing the difference between what the readers are more obsessed with what the news network itself is more obsessed with. - barc0de, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Under UK law, television news HAS to be unbiased and neutral. Dont believe me? Just compare Sky News with Fox News (both owned by News International).
The true test of neutrality is when everyone accuses it of being biased. - Ellsass, on 11/05/2008, -0/+5I get BBC News at 6pm on PBS, when the other news is on. There's also BBC America, a channel on (usually) digital cable, which shows all sorts of shows (The Office, Little Britain, etc) besides the news.
If you get both, watch the PBS version of the news -- it doesn't have advertisements, but the one on BBCA does (they play the ads during e.g. the financial segments so you don't really notice the interruption on PBS). - mrmagic07, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5The other night I watched an interview on BBC's hardTalk for the first time. They had an interview with one of the opposition party leaders in Pakistan. Very informative and the interviewer (I don't rememeber his name) was very effective at asking the hard questions. I especially liked the fact that the interviewer asked not only questions like "what is wrong with Pakistan's governnment", but also implored to ask questions like "what are the alternatives" and "how would you unite the country". Very interesting.
- Vazel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I get all my news from the bbc website but to get their channel i have to pay extra. that sucks. :( I'd rather they take out CNN and Fox News and give me BBC in their place.
- tizz66, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4It's a license, that's how all licenses work. You'll get jailed if you run a taxi service without having a license. You'll get fined if you go fishing without a license. What's so difficult to understand about that?
- tizz66, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4If you want to know how they spend the money they get, you just need to get the annual report. It's no secret, it just requires you to think straight and research it - probably a toughy for you, admittedly.
- tizz66, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4How do you determine who watches a particular channel? The BBC also funds a lot of the infrastructure that other TV stations use, so even if you don't directly watch BBC channels, you're probably using their equipment. The BBC is also much more than just TV, Radio and Internet, they do a lot for the public benefit.
I have private healthcare insurance so I don't use the NHS, but I still have to pay for it. Why's that? Because it's a public service for the good of the country. - MonGuSE1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5at this point in time that imperial yoke isn't looking all that bad. Mandatory vacation time. Religious tolerance for all legitimate religions (UK smartly does not recognize Scientology as a religion). Sane censorship rules, saner patent and IP system. The poster that thinks UK mass transit sucks should try getting around an American city besides NYC with anything besides a car. Corporations don't seem to run the government. The only thing I don't like is their lack of privacy rights. Those cameras need to be scaled way back, and the anti social laws...... But at least you don't torture people, hold them without charges or trial forever, how trigger happy cops with stun guns that still shoot unarmed people even though they have sad stun guns that they like to use on people when bored. You also don't have rednecks advocating teaching the bible and creationism in place of science in public schools. The earth suddenly poofed into existence 6,000 years ago... God thought it and therefore it was.... bleh.... I could go on.
BTW the yoke doesn't exist anymore they have a pretty decent representative governdment and the monarchy is purely for show and they pay their own way for the most part from property leases and other investments from my understanding. - ScrumFritter, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Good old BBC. Couldn't do without it, me. At the end of the day, people will watch what news source they want to watch, but the BBC strikes me as a news source that actually WANTS and strives to report the news as it is, without bias. The person saying it has a very left bias quite a while back up there... I couldn't understand that - watching Fox you can see a clear bias, but I never detect any on the BBC. I feel like I'm just getting the news, not an opinion, which is what I want. Which is what I think everyone wants.
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