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- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -9/+232awesome.
***** michael vick, I hope his career is ruined - felchdonkey, on 10/10/2007, -9/+164The saddest thing is, there are still people out there that can't figure out why it's a big deal that Michael Vick committed these crimes. Breeding dogs to fight to the death, using kittens, cats, and smaller dogs as "bait," and then drowning, electrocuting, or shooting dogs that didn't win in his twisted cage matches... and they still defend the guy, or want him back on the team.
I hope someone sneaks a video camera into prison and records him getting turned into someone's bitch. I'd gladly buy the camera for them. - antihighstbass, on 10/10/2007, -4/+85he's a piece of garbage, anyone who can't understand why is also a piece of garbage, how anyone could do something like that to living things points to some kind of mental deficiency, i hope he gets the most severe sentence possible and never plays again, maybe we'll luck out and someone will shank him in prison
- compgeek, on 10/10/2007, -2/+59way to go for the humane society. one more final humiliation to this piece of trash *****. I hope they send him a picture of one of his jersey's being use to whipe a dog's ass just so he know that he's washed up.
- joshikus, on 10/10/2007, -4/+60Madden curse
- chubbybubba, on 10/10/2007, -3/+50I worked for a year in prison. That place is one huge dog fight. No joke. If you don't fight and win you get punked. When you see 200+ pound guys walkin around with make up on you feel glad you get to walk out of there every morning.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+48You mean the jerseys used to be good for something else!?
- adrianmonk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+42The REALLY sad thing is that the head of the Atlanta NAACP chapter is one of the people who doesn't get it, and he is calling on the NFL not to ban Vick. Here's an article on it:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/22/vick/
Personally, I think if you're a part of a black civil rights organization, you would do the most for your cause by distancing yourself from people who behave like sadistic *****, but I guess this guy sees it differently. Thankfully I'm pretty sure he doesn't speak for the entire NAACP. - ngmcs8203, on 10/10/2007, -0/+35Consider this... out of 55,000 poll takers on ESPN.com there was over 1500 people who voted that they don't see dog fighting as a crime. Scary huh?
- joshuakuhn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+28Read the entire quote?
"I worked for a year in prison." - Ellsass, on 11/05/2008, -0/+25That's what you get for lending them your makeup.
- jessssss, on 10/10/2007, -3/+25For everyone who's taking the "who cares" approach, not only is dog fighting inhumane, it is also illegal in North America (as it should be!). If you want to gain a little perspective, look at the pictures of dogs who have had pieces of glass embedded in their skin, so that they can tear up the other dogs mouths or read about the 13 year old kids involved in these dog fighting rings who cut their dogs ears off with a pair of scissors. If you think that's humane, please go swallow some rat poison.
- Kinjiru, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22Ahh but if you go hunting are you doing it just for pathetic entertainment? Are you catching the game and torturing it.. making it fight for it's life with other animals? etc etc
I'm not against hunting but it's not intentionality torturing an animal
What he has done however is in another realm entirely to say the least and you seriously need to get a reality check. - daeken, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20Do you know what NAACP stands for?
- adrianmonk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19The difference here is intent. Vick apparently drowned, choked, and electrocuted dogs when they didn't measure up. He seems to have gotten pleasure out of making the animal suffer (else why resort to such creative techniques?).
Meanwhile, the biologists in the story about the shark caught the shark with their bare hands, put a net over his head so he wouldn't bite, then immediately took him to an aquarium to have him medically examined. If he's healthy enough to go, they plan to release him back into the wild. So here they have the interests of the shark in mind. They are trying to do the best thing for everyone involved, including the shark.
Or to put it another way, in both cases animals suffered. In one case, the humans directly involved made an effort to minimize suffering. In the other, the humans made an effort to maximize their own amusement and didn't give a rat's ass about the animals' suffering. That's the difference. - 11familyguy11, on 10/10/2007, -2/+20How does race play a part in this at all? Most of the emotion is coming from the disgust caused by the mistreatment of the animals. If you think this isn't the case, you're not being intellectually honest. Now, go talk to all of your friends about how 'the cops are after the brotha'...
- HUKI365, on 10/10/2007, -4/+21Racist.
- sp1keNARF, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18there's a difference between slaughtering animals for food and being cruel to them for kicks.
- CaptainNoPants, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17there's nothing wrong with UFC, I hope you aren't trying to compare legal fighting to slaughtering animals.
- adrianmonk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Fair question. I brought it up because I'm stunned and offended by what R.L. White (who does happen to be the head of the Atlanta NAACP) is saying about Vick. Watch the video:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/22/vick/#cnnSTCVideo
His point that humans are redeemable is valid, but then he actually goes on to say that while a lot of NFL fans are animal lovers, there are also a lot of people who like to watch Vick play football. You've heard of the "think of the children" argument? White is using what amounts to a "think of the poor football fans that won't get to see a great athlete play anymore" argument. - Woknblues, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14one has nothing to do with the other.of course it is wrong to beat women. does that mean that another crime committed should be simply weighed on the comparison of another? fix both problems, don't just lighten the penalty to accommodate a gap in another issue.
- nletourneau, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14Caring about more than one thing is obviously impossible
- comrademikhail, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Actually I am being intellectually honest: I would think there would be the same. If Vick were white, and still a famous quarterback, and he got caught doing this, there would still be a huge outrage. Quit putting race into play, it really has nothing to do with the situation at hand.
- ronh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Aks the NAACP. Why is an African American civil rights organization getting involved in a situation that is clearly not about race but about a sadistic animal torturer.
- louiemantia, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Just so you know, there are a lot of people in America. Close to all of America doesn't have a say in the war in Iraq, and even more don't have a say in what happens to Michael Vick. Don't stereotype, and don't think all of Americans are the same. Most of us are smarter than our leaders.
- RedClover9, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Folks, its not just that he killed dogs. Its the dogfighting and the torture that is appalling. If someone was hunting dear and they captured it, tortured it for weeks, then forced it to fight another animal, only to kill it brutally after it lost, we would think that guy was just as big of a pig.
And don't say we don't care about humans. Animal cruelty is appalling because it is an attack on the innocent. We care about the War, we care about kids that are molested or beat, we care about people who are murdered or tortured. Just because we are appalled by this current story doesn't mean we don't care about anything else.
You have one of the biggest stars in major sports found to be torturing animals and training them to fight to the death for sport. Of course its gonna be a major story. This guy was a star and a role model for many people.
If takes a certain type of sicko to be able to stomach doing some of the stuff he did to animals. If you watch any of these dog videos and if you think that bashing a dogs head into the ground until its dead, drowning a dog with your bare hands, wetting a dog and then electrocuting it, is something you could do, then you should seek professional help. - Rezistik, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Well, for one people have been eating cattle for hundreds of years..and for two we dont make them fight for our amusement before eating them and we dont bet on which ones are gonna wen also we dont bond with cattle..so there are many things that makes your statement calling us hypocrits false..ill enjoy eating my meat but ill never enjoy someone cruelly torturing an animal for fun
- sp1keNARF, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15i'd rather help an innocent dog than half the piece of crap people in this world...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13Buy a dictionary. Arabs are Caucasian.
- emoj0388, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11I think he should be just left in a room alone with 3 police dog untis given the command to attack.
- guzziguy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Yeah and how about CLINTON PORTIS from the Washington Redskins -- He supports this guy and said -
" I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BIG DEAL IS --- It'S ONLY DOG FIGHTING" Another Rhodes Scholar....
SCREW HIM! TOOOOOOOOO - bobcrotch, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Whats your excuse?
- gldfshnpcklejar, on 10/10/2007, -7/+16Good, now the value of a michael vick jersey just went up on e-bay!!
- Jargonaut06, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13Oh its is, don't worry.
- cliffdavis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9That is not a FACT. That is your opinion.
I don't care what color he is, he broke the law...I'm not an ally of PETA, I still think they are a bunch of hypocritical asses who at their best are vigilantes, and at their worst are a boarder line terrorist organization. Luckily, I don't need to agree with extremists to know right from wrong. Society doesn't care what color he is, they care because he is famous. If he wasn't, like the other people being indicted, then we wouldn't even know his name, or this case. Guess what, when famous white athletes do illegal things, they get arrested too. Don't use the 'NFL lets convicted wife beaters continue to play...' ***** argument either. If he had just hit his dog, he would still be playing, conversely, if you kill your wife, you won't be playing. Any other half cocked, poorly informed, opinion stated as fact statements you want to make? - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+14you are an animal dumb *****.
- mcaaronice, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8You might want to look at the ridiculous comments on a digg story that involves PETA and see that your statement is false. Digg users hate PETA and Michael Vick both and with intensity.
- MrNexus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Don't compare UFC to dogfighting. Nobody has died or have ever been seriously injured in the UFC. Plus, they choose to fight, those poor dogs couldn't chose.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10I didn't mean to reply so harsh.
but as a huge animal lover it really did offend me,
but can you tell me what you have done lately to solve the atrocities in the world? - comrademikhail, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Even then the animals killed on the hunting shows probably gets used for food. I don't imagine they just let the animal die and leave it. Which is basically what they are doing to these dogs. It truly makes me sick that you are comparing dog fighting to hunting.
- JahRage, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11What the ***** has Vick ever won anyways? Do people out there actually still believe he is a good quarterback?
- caselogic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I agree with 95% percent of your point. Except Leonard Little did not say to himself, I am going to invest lots of money in a big ranch, lots of cars, lots of alcohol, and innocent people. Then I am going to get drunk and barrel into them.
Intent means a lot. Mike Vick set out to do those things, and yes what Little did was horrible and irresponsible they are different. - mookiemookie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7You don't torture animals and maximize their suffering when you hunt, you moron.
- reed311, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6You must be a slow learner. Someone defending the torture of animals does not make them a member of PETA. This is a story about dog fighting, why does someone need to come in here and weep about Iraqi's or another innocent humans murdered in a non-related story?
- Woknblues, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7one has nothing to do with the other.of course it is wrong to beat women. does that mean that another crime committed should be simply weighed on the comparison of another? fix both problems, don't just lighten the penalty to accommodate a gap in another issue.
- sonaboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6you're the ***** sheep, dumbass. Ray Lewis pleading guilty to involuntary manslaughter has nothing to do with this. Vick planned, maintained, profited and then concealed the illegal slaughtering and torturing of animals. He should serve jail time and pay a very large fine. the end.
go back to your fingerpainting, little boy. - DustyinBFE, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6No, and they didn't this time either. I can't see them going to anyones house to steal personal property ...... in this case, they're having people donate what they don't want to be used in an ironic twist of fate.
- 2keysmatt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I hope it is as well. Though, looking around the league, I don't see it as such a safe bet. I'm sure he'll lose all his sponsors but I bet the NFL will let him back in at some point, against my wishes. He the last person kids need as a role model. I think it's ridiculous all the articles I have read that bring up race. I've seen a few comments from other African Americans who are quick to point out that this has nothing to do with race. This is about a guy who has thousands of kids looking up to him, regardless of whether or not sports stars should be role models, and he is doing horrific things to animals. I hate cats and dogs but I could never hurt one.
I think the NFL needs to step up and try to put an end to letting all these felons in the league. Maybe their conduct policy should be amended. How many other jobs are going to hire you back after you've plead guilty to the charges he has.
Just my opinion. - irvman21, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Prison should, you know, suck. It's not a vacation.
- danielwsmithee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Thats funny I thought the appropriate word was realist.
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