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- b8man99, on 09/13/2008, -0/+15Well I was going to become a hippy and live a peaceful contented life smoking cannabis in my home. But it turns out that gets a harsher prison sentence than raping and killing people. I guess the feds are telling me to rape and kill people. Message received.
- Ferre1, on 09/13/2008, -0/+14Cannabis, mushrooms and other entheogens have been used by many cultures all around the world for religious/spiritual purposes since thousands of years, this practise pre-dates the Abrahamic religions and this is well documented by anthropologists all over the world.
Since the Inquisition the Christian religions have been doing a good job in exterminating those cultures and this is going on to this day.
Dan and Mary have the right to practise their religion according to international laws and the US constitution but American CHRISTIAN judges deny them their rights.
Look up article 18 - Universal Declaration of Human Rights: "Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance."
It's totally hypocrite Christian policies that persecutes Dan and Mary, specially when knowing that during the alcohol prohibition days, the Volstead act made it clear that ALCOHOL WAS PERMITTED TO BE USED AS SACRAMENT:
"TITLE II.
PROHIBITION OF INTOXICATING BEVERAGES.
SEC. 3. No person shall on or after the date when the eighteenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States goes into effect, manufacture, sell, barter, transport import, export, deliver, furnish or possess my intoxicating liquor except as authorized in this Act, and all the provisions of this Act shall be liberally construed to the end that the use of intoxicating liquor as a beverage may be prevented.
Liquor for non beverage purposes and wine or sacramental purposes may be manufactured, purchased, sold, bartered transported, imported, exported, delivered, furnished and possessed, but only as herein provided, and
he commissioner may, upon application, is
sue permits therefor: Provided, That nothing| in this Act shall prohibit the purchase and sale of warehouse receipts covering distilled spirits on deposit in Government bonded warehouses, and no special tax liability shall attach to the business of purchasing and selling such warehouse receipts...."
Bloody hypocrite Christian bastards made sure the law had an exemption for their drug-of-choice, but when Cannabis was prohibited no mention of sacramental use was made, although this use has been known since centuries.
The so called drug war is a war against non christian cultures, it started during the Inquisition and has never ended. - syndustry, on 09/13/2008, -0/+9ever heard of rastafari? to them smoking is considered a sacrament...just like the eucharist is to christians...
- inactive, on 09/13/2008, -1/+8Personally, I think it'd be sad if simply a Quaintance went to jail.
I'm horrible, sorry. Not trying to take away from the ridiculousness of these sorts of laws.
Could we see the same standards applied to other organizations such as, oh, say, a certain cult that's fairly popular with Hollywood celebrities? - lucy22, on 09/13/2008, -0/+6I have never heard of marijuana being part of someone's religion.
20 years seems pretty harsh. - NikoKun, on 09/13/2008, -0/+5This is religious persecution, plain and simple. How can they tell us we can't believe our religion, and we can't practice our religion?
Just because we don't worship in the same way, doesn't mean we don't deserve the freedom to.
Cannabis is a Sacrament, always has been... It's just that mainstream religion seems to have forgotten that! - inactive, on 09/13/2008, -0/+4"The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:12
"And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more." Ezekiel 34:29
"The Lord said unto me, 'I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs.' " Isaiah 18:4-5
"See I think drugs have done some good things for us. If you don't think drugs have done good things for us then do me a favor. Go home tonight and take all of your records,tapes and all your CD's and burn them. Because, you know all those musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years? Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal ***** high on drugs, man." Bill Hicks - Darkhacker, on 09/14/2008, -0/+4Want to use your religion to justify the use of marijuana while causing harm to no one else? Rot in jail mother *****!
Want to use your religion to restrict the rights of homosexuals, teach the mythology of genesis as scientific fact, and nationally endorse these beliefs on our nation's currency? Sure, no problem. - inactive, on 09/14/2008, -0/+4Meanwhile, the Christian Judge goes home and has his nightcap before bed everynight.
How do these nasty fux live with themselves? - inactive, on 09/14/2008, -0/+4Last time I went to Church, I kept hearing our Pastor yak on and on about certain "needy" causes and people the Church was "giving" to only to find out after a few months of giving my tithe, the Church is now going to build a new gymnasium. Then they declared last week, they were also purchasing a brand new tour bus for road trips. The last straw was when the Pastor's wife drove up in a new Cadillac.
Now, how much of my tithe do you think actually went to helping the needy or feeding the Children?! There is no way of knowing how much the church really actually gave to the needy or hungry. They just say "trust us"?
Churches are in the business of scamming money just like anything else. Panhandlers in a Fancy building!
If you want to really help needy people then give your money directly to them or at least a credible charity, but never give your money to a Church! - subgeniusd, on 09/13/2008, -0/+3You mean the Xenu clown army?
- johndi, on 09/13/2008, -1/+4Jesus used cannabis.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2633187.stm - kr9681, on 09/13/2008, -0/+3My religion allows to trip out on shrooms.
only on sundays. - thepoliticalcat, on 09/14/2008, -0/+220 years for pot? Let's see, how many years did Scooter Libby serve for treason? (Outing a secret agent of your own government is treason, you know.) And Ken Lay of Enron? How many years for bilking millions of company employees and customers out of huge amounts of money? What about the Keating 5 S&L scandal? How many years for John McCain? Neil Bush? Charles Keating?
Oh, that's right. They're committing REAL crimes so they get off scot-free. - EatingPie, on 09/13/2008, -0/+2"Dan and Mary have the right to practise their religion according to international laws and the US constitution but American CHRISTIAN judges deny them their rights."
These same CHRISTIAN judges legally allowed the Native American Church to use Peyote as part of their ritualistic practices. Sort of wrecks your whole "it's the Christians' fault" argument.
The problem for the Quaintance's is that it looks like the church is just a front for use and distribution of Marijuana. Had there been hundreds of years of tradition behind them -- as in the case of the Native American Church -- they would have probably won their case.
-Pie - Ferre1, on 09/14/2008, -0/+2EatingPie, You forget to mention that those native Americans had to go through tons of legal battles against those christian judges to get their frikkin human rights recognized and even when they won their fight those christian judges very much restricted this use by setting rules on who is `allowed` to use it for their spiritual gains, my whole "it's the christian's fault" argument holds solid grounds.
If those christian judges in America would respect international laws regarding other-than-their religions Dan and Mary wouldn´t even be arrested, there wouldn´t even be such a court case as we see now regardless the amount of sacrament they have.
Every court case in the USA against people like Dan and Mary displays to the rest of the world that indeed the Christian American Nation discriminates and even persecutes people with other believe systems under the pretext of "fighting drug abuse". - satyr9us, on 09/13/2008, -0/+2They'll be fine on appeal. See:
Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficente Uniao do Vegetal - jodimcmullen, on 09/15/2008, -0/+1From their website:
"The Church of Cognizance, is a revealed Neo-Zoroastrian faith & experience based ethno-socio-religious organization."
"This case will determine the extent of dutiful-freedom ALL Human's possess (while acting in a peaceful demeanor) to freely act and move about without being molested. The United States government seeks the courts to grant them a tryanical authority to deny us and other members of the human race the universally recognized freedom espoused in The UN Declaration of Human Rights? since 1946 and defined by the United States congress in Public Law since 1998 as stated in 22 U.S.C. 6401-a-3 to peacefully exercise the religion of our choice, even in the Church of Cognizance with the legally declared "mode of worship", wherein the Divine Herb Haoma, our prime Diety?, the most renown plant known and considered by us to be our Teacher, Provider, and Protector?. "
http://danmary.org/tiki/tiki-index.php - inactive, on 09/13/2008, -0/+0Yessir
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