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- DiggsOnlyNeoCon, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33And people call us Christians intolerant...
- alevel27mage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16You're right, KaneRai, and most muslims are terrorists.
I'm sorry, but none of the things you stated are true. Some Christians hate other people. This does not reflect our religion or our God. - virtualscribe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Bible 2.0 !
- DiggsOnlyNeoCon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Examples? Or are you just assuming without reading?
- aldrlandon, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Pretty cool. A new way to look at a very important book.
- eosp, on 10/12/2007, -11/+22Time for a quick theology lesson. Jesus claimed to be the son of God. So therefore, one of these three is true:
- He was.
- He was crazy.
- He was lying, and therefore of satan.
If the third one was true, he would not have told people to follow the Lord. If the second one was true, then he would have been stoned by one of several angry mobs. Which one does that leave? - DiggsOnlyNeoCon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Kane, you're not arguing; you're insulting people. Feel free to bring up any valid point you want to discuss -- and no, "Christians are dumb" is not a valid point.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Ahem, the big bubble in the middle labeled "Jesus".
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I don't think it's fair that a neocon is the only one who speaks up here. KaneRai isn't worth much more than that... but let's hear him say the same thing about a black or a Jew.... or homosexual.. or Muslim... or just about anything BUT a Christian. How horrendous THAT would be!
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14I see Nero over there on the right, but which version is it?
- porch88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@globalwarming99
Jehova is another name for God, not a person. - DiggsOnlyNeoCon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Toshibi:
True Christians will try to attain the highest standard of their beliefs. True Christianity would not, and does not, "ridicule" anything, as you say. Christianity, and the Christians I know, embrace people -- all people -- and especially those different from us. I love connecting to people like that because of how much we disagree, which leads to good discussion. Feel free to say whatever you want, but it is absolutely ridiculous to say that Christians "ridicule" anything we don't understand. - DiggsOnlyNeoCon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Kane, the more you type, the more of your ignorance is revealed.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I'm sure peer pressure is the case for some to become Christians and other things... But it wasn't for me. In my circle of friends, Christianity was the bane of the free world - The destroyer of thought and individuality. I was not raised to be a Christian. I became a Christian based on my own personal experience, and nothing besides. It caused me more pain in terms of social status than anything else.
- macp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I think this is neat. Visualizations are handy.
- xaaronreevesx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Jesus is in everyones extended network.
Tom=Jesus - olddirtycr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"Let's do the Old Testament too!
...oh wait, it's all internally inconsistent."
Right above you :( - scheper, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10You just needed any old excuse to call it a tale of fiction, right?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@Toshibi -
I am a Christian. I do not see any reason to judge or ridicule homosexuals, Muslims, or science. At all. It's not my place to have any sort of emotion about homosexuality, it's not my place to tell Muslims that their faith is false, and I am currently taking a physics class. So, you're argument really didn't make much sense to me. And BTW, you still didn't say what I said Kane wouldn't. You just said the same thing he did. That Christians are ***** retarded. So um... thanks for backing me up. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6well I can handle that. thumbs up.. God didn't build my computer, and science doesn't answer my prayers.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@Toshibi
Just a bit of a joiner, and *that's all*? Amazing how you can minimize someone's belief systems and totally dismiss them as an intelligent human being with just a few words, after knowing them for 3 seconds. - olddirtycr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Shes on there.
- thePuck77, on 10/12/2007, -17/+22We need one of these for Dune and Galactica and other popular tales of fiction.
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"That is, if such a person ever existed. It could all be a myth..."
You might want to do some studying of history. There are many non-Biblical references that make references to Jesus. He did actually exists. Thats not the debate. The debate is whether or not he was diety. - spurtle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Why would Jesus be associated with Pat Robinson? Robinson is like a modern day pharisee.
- Zartregu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5And how is Jesus linked to Kevin Bacon?
- DiggsOnlyNeoCon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Krymore -- you'd be surprised how many dialogues I read between Muslims and Christians where the Christian is trying to convince the Muslim that their Godheads are one and the same.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5you submit that question to Digg?
- Zreitan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4im surprised they include jesus' two brothers..but i dont see how adam is directly connected to jesus. or how cain is completly NOT connected to adam at all..
- ninjacrab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Jesus is probably indirectly connected to Kevin Bacon, probably through Jim Caveziel who played Jesus in Mel Gibson's Passion.
- thePuck77, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You can't prove any negative...should we accept any belief that we can't prove false as "valid"?
Scientology, anyone?
Actually, I prefer the Great Old Ones...IA IA CTHULHU! IA IA AZATHOTH! IA IA HASTUR! - Toshibi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4coldstatue, I'm sure you're a smart guy....
Hell, years ago, I was a Christian too. See, when I was 4 I gave up on Santa, the Easter Bunny, and by a logical bend, God. Then I was in my teens...peer pressure was important and I ended up being converted to a Southern Baptist. I walked the walk and talked the talk...including missions to inner city Baltimore and doing a walk out of my biology class. Then, I started thinking for myself again at about age 17. Haven't looked back since (it's been 10 years now).
Anyhow, while it may have been hasty to call you a joiner...it's probably fitting to a good number of people. - TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Read the rest there, I'm interested in repeating these valid arguments."
You mean you're interested in repeating gross over generlizations that are classified as logical fallicies? And you think people are going to take you seriously? - Soccrmastr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Because that is an article explaining all about the visualization. And it doesn't take a genius to click the link for the visualization.
- warriorscot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It would kind of go a bit awry in Dune since it appears almost everyone after children of dune would at some point be related to duncan idaho apart from Leto. Galactica would be interesting.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5and BTW - I don't mean that black or homosexual, or yes, a Jew cannot be Christian. i just mean let's see him define someone by those terms and say the same *****. Kane wouldn't dare.
- Medusausi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow. Jesus' Facebook. Where are the pictures and music links? Where is the glitter banner that says "What Would I Do?"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Well, it shows that relationships exist between people, but tells nothing of what that relationship is, so the submission title is somewhat misleading. This site doesn't tell you HOW "all the characters" are connected, just that they are. Melchizedek is connected to Jesus, but not to Abraham? (Ok, NT only) Still, it's a cool idea, and a good basic example of what Many Eyes can do, if not for genealogies, then for *social* networks.
- nothing7899, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1whaddyaknow.... it looks like Jesus is on EVERYBODY'S top 8
- slowspin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This looks like a Greenzap Community map.
- chaskell, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5@eosp
What about if he was crazy and charismatic? Like Hitler. Being crazy does not stop people from following you.
Or he was lying and therefore from Satan, but the God he told us to worship actually was Satan? Satan tricked Eve in the Garden of Eden, could he not send someone to earth again to trick people into following a false prophet?
Maybe he was the son of God. Maybe he was a tool used to manipulate. Maybe he was a man who wanted to spread teachings of peace. The truth is either we will never know or we will know when we die and are standing in front of the pearly/fiery gates. That is why it is called faith.
But having faith and never questioning the basis of that faith objectively is not having faith at all. It is being a fool. Your line of questioning doesn't fit the mold of objectivity. - imjustabill, on 10/12/2007, -3/+410 comments in and no debate about religion yet?
- eosp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Quote: There is no historical record of him ever claiming to be God. He is accepted by many, including Islam, as a great prophet of God, but the first historical mention of Jesus being God was when his divinity was voted upon by the Romans under Constantine. I don't doubt that he used the phrase "son of god", but the Bible also calls Adam the son of god, and frequently refers to humanity as the "children of god". As much as mainstream "Christians" like to claim exclusive rights to Jesus as their mascot, he does not belong to them and many concepts taught about him, such as the trinity, have no connection with the actual teachings of the actual Jesus according to historical record.
Ok, here goes.
John 2:16-17: 2:16 To those who sold the doves he said, “Take these things away from here! Do not make my Father’s house a marketplace!” 2:17 His disciples remembered that it was written, “Zeal for your house will devour me.”
John 4:26: Jesus said to her, “I, the one speaking to you, am he.”
John 5:30: I can do nothing on my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I do not seek my own will, but the will of the one who sent me.
John 8:28: Then Jesus said, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and I do nothing on my own initiative, but I speak just what the Father taught me.
There are a few verses to ponder. - playfulmind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i sort of wonder why people dugg this comment down so hard. It didn't really say much. What did people think I was saying?
What are people so emphatically disagreeing with? I'm curious, do tell. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Nah, shes not black. Shes Hispanic!
- Battlecry, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The white background?
- Ianingf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1
"The data set behind the visualization isn’t perfect. While it disambiguates people with the same name (John the apostle and John the Baptist, for example), it only tracks occurrences in the same chapter. In other words, just because two people appear in the text near each other, that doesn’t mean they have a relationship. So you have Joseph the Old Testament patriarch linked to Jesus even though they obviously weren’t contemporaries." - kozie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OB, that's like asking "Who told you 2+2 = 4"...
If you don't want to spend 5 seconds on google wasting your own time, then it's clear that you don't really care about the topic or that you're just looking for a fight to make you feel better. - TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I see lots of these kinds of arguments on digg where the someone will make up moot points and argue them easily. For example, someone will make a false overgeneralization about a race or belief, than easily aruge it down. When in reality, that race or belief doesn't adhere to that generlization.
If you're going to have an intelligent discussion, atleast bring your intelligence...
Just like Mulsims get a bad rap for their radical 10%, Christians also get a bad rap for their small over-zealous minority. This is because anytime a Christian is being reported on, its for something they've done wrong. Christians are not perfect, nor do they claim to be. In fact, just the opposite. They're people seeking help through divine means because they think they need it.
Christians do not deny science and they are neither ignorant of it. Christian scientist is not an oxymoron. The universe could have very well started with a "Big Bang". Some Christians interprete the Bible as being very literal in the creation account, others think it gives some leeway.
However you choose to look at the Bible. There are several non-Biblical accounts that have overwhelming evidence to support the its historical background. Why do Christians believe the Bible to be true? Because of the evidence suggesting that it is true. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4neocon, on this one thing, we totally agree. :0)
And yes Kane, Muslim education is the epitome of scientific dispassion and objectivity. -
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